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  • #15597
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    OhCanada-
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    Coming out of College Beasley was known to be somewhat reluctant to play hard defense. He was known to not have NBA level intangibles and work ethic difficulties. Everyone knew Beasley was a score first player, who thrives off being the first option, 100% in the sense who was disinterested in defending and rebounded with sheer athletisism only.

    So when he gets drafted by the Miami heat a defensive minded team revolving around Dwayne Wade who tells everyone else to be a “ROLE PLAYER” to “REBOUND” and “DEFEND” why are we disappointed from what Beasley produced? Beasley simply is disinterested in being a 2nd or 3rd option and his mentality is score, score, score.If you don’t give a scorer the ball, or minutes for that mnatter how do you expect him to engage in the other aspects of the game?

    Heres the thing.The way I see it Beasley went to Miami and has learned alot of the small things from Erik Spoelstra that he probally wouldnt have learned many other places.He is still only 21 which is one year younger than highly regarded prospect Evan Turner and if he was still in College he would be Drafted first overall in this years draft.

    Is it a stretch to say if you put Beasley on a team with hardly any star presence Toronto (post-Bosh), Washington etc.Is it a stretch to say this 21 yr old versatile, and athletic scorer will develop into an Allstar on a team who “GIVES HIM THE ROCK WHEN HE WANTS IT FOR 35 MINUTES”.Shore youll come back with “his maturity isnt good enough” but hes a 21 yr old!

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  • #314790
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    Wow my grammars bad lol

    All I’m saying is you dont use a door as a window

    And you dont use a scorer as a defensive stopper

    Maybe if someone uses him as a scorer he can reach his potential

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  • #314595
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    Wow my grammars bad lol

    All I’m saying is you dont use a door as a window

    And you dont use a scorer as a defensive stopper

    Maybe if someone uses him as a scorer he can reach his potential

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  • #314631
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    its tough playing w/ a ball dominant player like wade…. im not counting him out but he needs to get his shit together, i never really believed in the whole ” maturity ” factor of a player but b- easy is off the rocking chair r we forgetting about his whole rehab scenario… like the guy is mentally fucked in the head and also has the worst ink in the league

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  • #314826
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    kanyedabest
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    its tough playing w/ a ball dominant player like wade…. im not counting him out but he needs to get his shit together, i never really believed in the whole ” maturity ” factor of a player but b- easy is off the rocking chair r we forgetting about his whole rehab scenario… like the guy is mentally fucked in the head and also has the worst ink in the league

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  • #314634
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    Good point indeed. He does have potential but he’d have to go into a situation where he is treated like kevin durant or dwade in the sense that the city accepts him as the face of the franchise and the go to option and then put players around him that are willing to accept that and get him the ball pretty much whenever he calls for it. It’ll be difficult though because of the “reputation” he has not to mention he had to check into rehab last summer so i’m not sure how many gms are going to want to take a chance at investing that much into him but we’ll see. Hopefully something works out to where he can at least be solid. I’m sure it sucks to be the person that is constantly referred to as a bust.

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  • #314829
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    Good point indeed. He does have potential but he’d have to go into a situation where he is treated like kevin durant or dwade in the sense that the city accepts him as the face of the franchise and the go to option and then put players around him that are willing to accept that and get him the ball pretty much whenever he calls for it. It’ll be difficult though because of the “reputation” he has not to mention he had to check into rehab last summer so i’m not sure how many gms are going to want to take a chance at investing that much into him but we’ll see. Hopefully something works out to where he can at least be solid. I’m sure it sucks to be the person that is constantly referred to as a bust.

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  • #314658
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    heres some teams hed thrive with

    New York
    Toronto
    San Antonio
    Washington
    Philly
    Detroit
    Utah
    Cleveland

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  • #314852
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    heres some teams hed thrive with

    New York
    Toronto
    San Antonio
    Washington
    Philly
    Detroit
    Utah
    Cleveland

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  • #314885
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    Adi Joseph

     It’ll be interesting to see Miami try to build around him for a year, if Wade does, in fact, leave. He could surprise some people, but that team wouldn’t win 30 games and might not reach 25.

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  • #314691
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    Adi Joseph

     It’ll be interesting to see Miami try to build around him for a year, if Wade does, in fact, leave. He could surprise some people, but that team wouldn’t win 30 games and might not reach 25.

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  • #314994
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    7 I agree with you. Adi the mentality of Miami is defense so it would be good for Beasley to go to another place. Sometimes early success is all about being in the right place and the right system. I believe Beasley could be a 20 10 guy on a alot of teams as a second option.

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  • #314797
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    7 I agree with you. Adi the mentality of Miami is defense so it would be good for Beasley to go to another place. Sometimes early success is all about being in the right place and the right system. I believe Beasley could be a 20 10 guy on a alot of teams as a second option.

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  • #315017
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    llperez

    if beasley is a number 1 option and gets all the touches he wants, that team doesnt win more then 25 games.

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  • #314821
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    llperez

    if beasley is a number 1 option and gets all the touches he wants, that team doesnt win more then 25 games.

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    • #315035
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      Exactly perezll it works both ways

      Let Beasley become an Allstar on your team
      Give the fans something to wow about while your rebuilding
      Anyteam that wants to get Beasley at this point can
      Get a Top 5 Draft Pick and a “legit” building block
      See how it goes and if its not looking good trade Beasley away when his value increases

      Its perfect for a team who wants to rebuild properly and entertain there fans
      Plus there will probally be some extra drama from B Easy to keep the fans distracted

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    • #314839
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      Exactly perezll it works both ways

      Let Beasley become an Allstar on your team
      Give the fans something to wow about while your rebuilding
      Anyteam that wants to get Beasley at this point can
      Get a Top 5 Draft Pick and a “legit” building block
      See how it goes and if its not looking good trade Beasley away when his value increases

      Its perfect for a team who wants to rebuild properly and entertain there fans
      Plus there will probally be some extra drama from B Easy to keep the fans distracted

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  • #315433
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    I agree man. Good thread. 18 year old freshman don’t just come to division 1 very often, if ever and average 26 and 12 like it was nothing. This guy is talented and really needs the ball more. I think Miami needs to chill out with all this defense stuff with Beasley. They should be figuring out more ways to get him the ball in his sweet spots, and he should be a real pick and pop threat with Wade every possession. The coaching staff needs to call his number on many more occasions and take an active role in making this guy become the player we all know he could and should be. With scorers like Beasley, who’s been elite at every point in his career prior to this, they get motivated on defense by playing good on offense. When their offense is rolling, they take a more active role on defense and become more active. He could’ve easily averaged 20 and 10 if he had more consistent minutes, and if his # was called on certain sets, to make sure he gets touches. He averaged about 15 and 6 in about 30 min with inconsistent playing time.
    He’s a rhythm player, so you can’t just give him the ball once in a blue and say “score” now, on this possession. He needs touches, throughout to get in a rhythm. And yes while he’s labeled and known as a scorer, he’s doesn’t come off as selfish to me. At K-State, he never really looked like he was alienating guys and chucking up shots. But I really would like to see Beasley get to the line more. 3FTA per is horrible for a guy like him, should be around at least 5. But again this is due to the ball dominant Wade as mentioned, and when Beasley does get the rock, he’s almost always so anxious to get a shot up, no matter from where on the floor, even if its not a rhythm jumper, and isn’t in a position to take it to the rack.

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