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  • #15047
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    I just read a n article on NBA.com that has John Salmons talking about the two young guards he has played with in Jennings and Rose (Durant and Westbrook). He calls them a different breed as they are winning now rather than struggling to adjust like those before hand.

    Why i feel this is relevant to Bealsey is he also mentions those that came before like Garnett and Bryant who did not have an amazing impact in there first couple of years. People are content to label Beasley a bust but he has shown signs that he can be a great player like Garnett and Kobe did.

    Just because Beasley is not succeeding right now doesn’t mean that one day he won’t or for that matter turn into a star. Some players just require more time than others look how long it took Salmons to lift that scoring up to 18ppg a season ago.

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  • #296021
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    what people don’t know is salmons didnt just come on to the seen when he went to chicago, he was good in sacramento. Unfortuntaly for him he was doing it in sacramento with about 15 people watching. Also part of the reason is that he doesn’t have any high light plays, he just kills you with jumpers and layups.

    As for Beasley he still has plenty of time to be a good player, he just needed to realize that he can’t contribute in just scoring like he has his entire life and needs to be good at something else too preferably rebounding.

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  • #295877
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    what people don’t know is salmons didnt just come on to the seen when he went to chicago, he was good in sacramento. Unfortuntaly for him he was doing it in sacramento with about 15 people watching. Also part of the reason is that he doesn’t have any high light plays, he just kills you with jumpers and layups.

    As for Beasley he still has plenty of time to be a good player, he just needed to realize that he can’t contribute in just scoring like he has his entire life and needs to be good at something else too preferably rebounding.

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  • #295643
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    what people don’t know is salmons didnt just come on to the seen when he went to chicago, he was good in sacramento. Unfortuntaly for him he was doing it in sacramento with about 15 people watching. Also part of the reason is that he doesn’t have any high light plays, he just kills you with jumpers and layups.

    As for Beasley he still has plenty of time to be a good player, he just needed to realize that he can’t contribute in just scoring like he has his entire life and needs to be good at something else too preferably rebounding.

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  • #296030
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    Penny Jr.
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    Kevin Martin and J.Sally were nasty when they played in SAC togather

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    Penny Jr.
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    Kevin Martin and J.Sally were nasty when they played in SAC togather

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    Penny Jr.
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    Kevin Martin and J.Sally were nasty when they played in SAC togather

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  • #296033
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    Beasley just needs to be put on a team without a ball-dominant player like Wade. He can’t play as effectively with Wade on his team. He’d be good on a team with a good PG or high-scoring perimeter shooter. I think he has 20 ppg ability with the ability to get 6 or 7 boards as well.

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  • #295889
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    Beasley just needs to be put on a team without a ball-dominant player like Wade. He can’t play as effectively with Wade on his team. He’d be good on a team with a good PG or high-scoring perimeter shooter. I think he has 20 ppg ability with the ability to get 6 or 7 boards as well.

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  • #295655
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    Beasley just needs to be put on a team without a ball-dominant player like Wade. He can’t play as effectively with Wade on his team. He’d be good on a team with a good PG or high-scoring perimeter shooter. I think he has 20 ppg ability with the ability to get 6 or 7 boards as well.

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  • #296042
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    the I in win
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    Where do you guys think beasley would fit best? The thunder would be perfect if they didn’t have Jeff Green.

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  • #295898
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    the I in win
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    Where do you guys think beasley would fit best? The thunder would be perfect if they didn’t have Jeff Green.

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  • #295664
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    the I in win
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    Where do you guys think beasley would fit best? The thunder would be perfect if they didn’t have Jeff Green.

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  • #296054
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    i am one of those that criticize beasley. And comparing him to KG and Brynat is way off. There was no question those guys had superstar in the making from day one. Beasley will put up stats, but there is nothing about his game that makes me think he will be an all star in this league. There is so much more to being great and having a major impact then stats. Beasley is great at stats, but thats where it ends. At least that is my opinion.

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  • #295909
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    llperez

    i am one of those that criticize beasley. And comparing him to KG and Brynat is way off. There was no question those guys had superstar in the making from day one. Beasley will put up stats, but there is nothing about his game that makes me think he will be an all star in this league. There is so much more to being great and having a major impact then stats. Beasley is great at stats, but thats where it ends. At least that is my opinion.

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  • #295675
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    llperez

    i am one of those that criticize beasley. And comparing him to KG and Brynat is way off. There was no question those guys had superstar in the making from day one. Beasley will put up stats, but there is nothing about his game that makes me think he will be an all star in this league. There is so much more to being great and having a major impact then stats. Beasley is great at stats, but thats where it ends. At least that is my opinion.

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  • #296056
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    the I in win
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    i see your point but if you average 20 ppg while shooting 50% from the field to go along with 8-10 rpg it would be very hard to just put up empty numbers.

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  • #295912
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    the I in win
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    i see your point but if you average 20 ppg while shooting 50% from the field to go along with 8-10 rpg it would be very hard to just put up empty numbers.

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  • #295678
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    the I in win
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    i see your point but if you average 20 ppg while shooting 50% from the field to go along with 8-10 rpg it would be very hard to just put up empty numbers.

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  • #295684
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    I think Beasley would be a good fit on the Knicks or the Warriors.

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  • #296063
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I think Beasley would be a good fit on the Knicks or the Warriors.

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  • #295918
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I think Beasley would be a good fit on the Knicks or the Warriors.

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  • #295687
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    llperez

    thats why i make the comparison to glenn robinson. GRobb was the number 1 pick got 22-8 on the regular and had really good stats. And he was never what a major diference maker or a guy you want to lead your team.

    Beasley is a ball stopper. When he gets it, if he is not looking to score, then he is not much use becasue he is not a play maker. He also requires lots of time and dribbles to get his own offense going. He doesnt get garbage baskets, he has to pound the rock. His interior presence is pretty sub par for a pf. He doesnt bang guys on the block rebound hard in traffic. or shut guys down on defense.

    a lot of people talk about how wade dominates the ball, but beasley should grab that number 2 option. He should still get his numbers and make his impact more so then he does.

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  • #296066
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    llperez

    thats why i make the comparison to glenn robinson. GRobb was the number 1 pick got 22-8 on the regular and had really good stats. And he was never what a major diference maker or a guy you want to lead your team.

    Beasley is a ball stopper. When he gets it, if he is not looking to score, then he is not much use becasue he is not a play maker. He also requires lots of time and dribbles to get his own offense going. He doesnt get garbage baskets, he has to pound the rock. His interior presence is pretty sub par for a pf. He doesnt bang guys on the block rebound hard in traffic. or shut guys down on defense.

    a lot of people talk about how wade dominates the ball, but beasley should grab that number 2 option. He should still get his numbers and make his impact more so then he does.

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  • #295921
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    llperez

    thats why i make the comparison to glenn robinson. GRobb was the number 1 pick got 22-8 on the regular and had really good stats. And he was never what a major diference maker or a guy you want to lead your team.

    Beasley is a ball stopper. When he gets it, if he is not looking to score, then he is not much use becasue he is not a play maker. He also requires lots of time and dribbles to get his own offense going. He doesnt get garbage baskets, he has to pound the rock. His interior presence is pretty sub par for a pf. He doesnt bang guys on the block rebound hard in traffic. or shut guys down on defense.

    a lot of people talk about how wade dominates the ball, but beasley should grab that number 2 option. He should still get his numbers and make his impact more so then he does.

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  • #295696
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    He could put up numbers in both of those systems, but I think especially if New Jersey gets John Wall (or keeps Devin Harris for that matter), he would be a good fit for the Nets.

    The Bulls could be a good fit too. He could be a nice pick-and-roll player with Rose. I could see a Hinrich for Beasley deal working.

    He could work for Milwaukee too. Jennings and Beasley could be decent with the role players Milwaukee has around. They would probably have to part with Salmons though.

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  • #296076
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    He could put up numbers in both of those systems, but I think especially if New Jersey gets John Wall (or keeps Devin Harris for that matter), he would be a good fit for the Nets.

    The Bulls could be a good fit too. He could be a nice pick-and-roll player with Rose. I could see a Hinrich for Beasley deal working.

    He could work for Milwaukee too. Jennings and Beasley could be decent with the role players Milwaukee has around. They would probably have to part with Salmons though.

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  • #295930
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    He could put up numbers in both of those systems, but I think especially if New Jersey gets John Wall (or keeps Devin Harris for that matter), he would be a good fit for the Nets.

    The Bulls could be a good fit too. He could be a nice pick-and-roll player with Rose. I could see a Hinrich for Beasley deal working.

    He could work for Milwaukee too. Jennings and Beasley could be decent with the role players Milwaukee has around. They would probably have to part with Salmons though.

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  • #295959
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    the I in win
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    actually i would like beasley on the bucks. He could be behind bogut, salmons, and jennings.

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  • #295725
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    the I in win
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    actually i would like beasley on the bucks. He could be behind bogut, salmons, and jennings.

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  • #296105
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    the I in win
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    actually i would like beasley on the bucks. He could be behind bogut, salmons, and jennings.

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  • #296031
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    Salmons has averaged 20 ppg with the Bucks

    Maybe its not to late for anyone to have a breakout year

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  • #295798
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    R-Dot-13
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    Salmons has averaged 20 ppg with the Bucks

    Maybe its not to late for anyone to have a breakout year

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  • #296183
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    Salmons has averaged 20 ppg with the Bucks

    Maybe its not to late for anyone to have a breakout year

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  • #296213
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    I think NJNets would be a really good fit for him. Especially if they got Wall. He could spread the floor and open up more one on one opportunities for Lopez.

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  • #296061
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    I think NJNets would be a really good fit for him. Especially if they got Wall. He could spread the floor and open up more one on one opportunities for Lopez.

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  • #295828
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    I think NJNets would be a really good fit for him. Especially if they got Wall. He could spread the floor and open up more one on one opportunities for Lopez.

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  • #296241
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    Not to mention, he apparently has/has mental issues as well. And to think, I thought the Bulls were crazy for taking Rose over him. Certainly not one of my better calls.

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  • #296086
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    Not to mention, he apparently has/has mental issues as well. And to think, I thought the Bulls were crazy for taking Rose over him. Certainly not one of my better calls.

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  • #295854
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    Not to mention, he apparently has/has mental issues as well. And to think, I thought the Bulls were crazy for taking Rose over him. Certainly not one of my better calls.

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  • #296244
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    actually Salmons showed signs of being good on the 6ers when Iverson went down one year a while back. He put up Iverson type numbers but when Iverson came back it was a different story. He could not play well with Iverson and somehow got traded or signed with the Kings, I forget which. I have watched Beasley play and he will be alright. I think people are expecting too much especially because Miami needs help in scoring and what not but Miami screwed up that draft. Beasley to me was never going to be a good fit. They should have taken Mayo.

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  • #296091
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    actually Salmons showed signs of being good on the 6ers when Iverson went down one year a while back. He put up Iverson type numbers but when Iverson came back it was a different story. He could not play well with Iverson and somehow got traded or signed with the Kings, I forget which. I have watched Beasley play and he will be alright. I think people are expecting too much especially because Miami needs help in scoring and what not but Miami screwed up that draft. Beasley to me was never going to be a good fit. They should have taken Mayo.

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  • #295857
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    actually Salmons showed signs of being good on the 6ers when Iverson went down one year a while back. He put up Iverson type numbers but when Iverson came back it was a different story. He could not play well with Iverson and somehow got traded or signed with the Kings, I forget which. I have watched Beasley play and he will be alright. I think people are expecting too much especially because Miami needs help in scoring and what not but Miami screwed up that draft. Beasley to me was never going to be a good fit. They should have taken Mayo.

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  • #296299
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    Maybe he would have been the better decision for Chicago because we don’t know how he would have performed if he was the main guy and could develop properly.

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  • #296144
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    Entropy
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    Maybe he would have been the better decision for Chicago because we don’t know how he would have performed if he was the main guy and could develop properly.

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  • #295911
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    Entropy
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    Maybe he would have been the better decision for Chicago because we don’t know how he would have performed if he was the main guy and could develop properly.

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  • #296303
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    To be honest im not sure how good Beasley can be. He has the tools but from what ive heard he has lack of focus/work-ethic. You can’t just turn into something great without having great work ethic to match it.

    When Beasley was coming out of college, some scouts were labeling him the next Derrick Coleman, and now I know why. Coleman is the prime example of a gifted player whos work ethic couldn’t match his elite talent. He was a good player, that should have been great.

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  • #296150
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    To be honest im not sure how good Beasley can be. He has the tools but from what ive heard he has lack of focus/work-ethic. You can’t just turn into something great without having great work ethic to match it.

    When Beasley was coming out of college, some scouts were labeling him the next Derrick Coleman, and now I know why. Coleman is the prime example of a gifted player whos work ethic couldn’t match his elite talent. He was a good player, that should have been great.

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  • #295916
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    To be honest im not sure how good Beasley can be. He has the tools but from what ive heard he has lack of focus/work-ethic. You can’t just turn into something great without having great work ethic to match it.

    When Beasley was coming out of college, some scouts were labeling him the next Derrick Coleman, and now I know why. Coleman is the prime example of a gifted player whos work ethic couldn’t match his elite talent. He was a good player, that should have been great.

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  • #296319
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    I felt he underachieve in my standards… Especially when he was 1/2 of the debates going on in the 2008 NBA Draft opposite Derrick Rose… It has become more of a Rose-Westbrook-Mayo domination which left beasley squandering somewhere… He does produce solid numbers for the Heat but he hasn’t really proven that he can be the "sidekick" or "partner" that Dwyane Wade needs…

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    I felt he underachieve in my standards… Especially when he was 1/2 of the debates going on in the 2008 NBA Draft opposite Derrick Rose… It has become more of a Rose-Westbrook-Mayo domination which left beasley squandering somewhere… He does produce solid numbers for the Heat but he hasn’t really proven that he can be the "sidekick" or "partner" that Dwyane Wade needs…

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    I felt he underachieve in my standards… Especially when he was 1/2 of the debates going on in the 2008 NBA Draft opposite Derrick Rose… It has become more of a Rose-Westbrook-Mayo domination which left beasley squandering somewhere… He does produce solid numbers for the Heat but he hasn’t really proven that he can be the "sidekick" or "partner" that Dwyane Wade needs…

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  • #296966
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    stanford hoops

    JNixon-Iggy9 you took the words out of my mouth. I like wade and think hes great but he is very ball dominate and that effect beasley’s game alot, that and the fact that the coach doesnt let him learn through his mistakes like okc or chi coachs let rose and westbrook learn. Im not sure if one of the people on here have watched miami but beasley isnt the ball stopper that you think he is, Hes actually pretty hesitant in many occassions and doesnt shot as much as he should as a second option. there are a couple of other players on that team that take shot attempts that should be his and im not sure if its because they are playing for contracts or they feel he’s too young to be a second option. At the same time he doesnt play like a second options sometimes and defers to wade and oneal and sometimes Qrich too much. he has shown when hes on his game he is a very very legit force, different from glen robinson because hes actually a pretty good passer and tries on defense more then glen ever did.

    I think dwade needs a different type of side kick just like iverson needs a certain type of side kick. not saying they are the same but they are so ball dominate that they need a certain type of sidekick

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  • #296807
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    stanford hoops

    JNixon-Iggy9 you took the words out of my mouth. I like wade and think hes great but he is very ball dominate and that effect beasley’s game alot, that and the fact that the coach doesnt let him learn through his mistakes like okc or chi coachs let rose and westbrook learn. Im not sure if one of the people on here have watched miami but beasley isnt the ball stopper that you think he is, Hes actually pretty hesitant in many occassions and doesnt shot as much as he should as a second option. there are a couple of other players on that team that take shot attempts that should be his and im not sure if its because they are playing for contracts or they feel he’s too young to be a second option. At the same time he doesnt play like a second options sometimes and defers to wade and oneal and sometimes Qrich too much. he has shown when hes on his game he is a very very legit force, different from glen robinson because hes actually a pretty good passer and tries on defense more then glen ever did.

    I think dwade needs a different type of side kick just like iverson needs a certain type of side kick. not saying they are the same but they are so ball dominate that they need a certain type of sidekick

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  • #296578
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    stanford hoops

    JNixon-Iggy9 you took the words out of my mouth. I like wade and think hes great but he is very ball dominate and that effect beasley’s game alot, that and the fact that the coach doesnt let him learn through his mistakes like okc or chi coachs let rose and westbrook learn. Im not sure if one of the people on here have watched miami but beasley isnt the ball stopper that you think he is, Hes actually pretty hesitant in many occassions and doesnt shot as much as he should as a second option. there are a couple of other players on that team that take shot attempts that should be his and im not sure if its because they are playing for contracts or they feel he’s too young to be a second option. At the same time he doesnt play like a second options sometimes and defers to wade and oneal and sometimes Qrich too much. he has shown when hes on his game he is a very very legit force, different from glen robinson because hes actually a pretty good passer and tries on defense more then glen ever did.

    I think dwade needs a different type of side kick just like iverson needs a certain type of side kick. not saying they are the same but they are so ball dominate that they need a certain type of sidekick

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  • #296972
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    JNixon
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    I agree. I don’t think he’s ball dominant at all right now. Actually he hasn’t been ball-dominant since he left K-State. He couldn’t be because he plays with Wade.

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  • #296814
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    JNixon
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    I agree. I don’t think he’s ball dominant at all right now. Actually he hasn’t been ball-dominant since he left K-State. He couldn’t be because he plays with Wade.

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  • #296584
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    JNixon
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    I agree. I don’t think he’s ball dominant at all right now. Actually he hasn’t been ball-dominant since he left K-State. He couldn’t be because he plays with Wade.

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  • #296975
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    llperez

    stanford, why not just say my name if you are gonna call me out for not watching heat games? Im the only person on here who said he is a ball stopper so i assume you are referring to me as “one of the people on here”. Yes i watch the heat games. And yes beasley is a ball stopper, at least he has to be if he wants to be effective. He doesnt make quick moves to beat his man. He doesnt get a lot of deep positions where you can just dump it in to him. He rarely gets out ahead of the field on fast breaks. For him to get his points, you have to give him the ball and let him go to work, and since he is not a super quick player nor is he a great passer, that means the ball stops when it gets to him. Lots of sports writers feel this way also.

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  • #296816
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    llperez

    stanford, why not just say my name if you are gonna call me out for not watching heat games? Im the only person on here who said he is a ball stopper so i assume you are referring to me as “one of the people on here”. Yes i watch the heat games. And yes beasley is a ball stopper, at least he has to be if he wants to be effective. He doesnt make quick moves to beat his man. He doesnt get a lot of deep positions where you can just dump it in to him. He rarely gets out ahead of the field on fast breaks. For him to get his points, you have to give him the ball and let him go to work, and since he is not a super quick player nor is he a great passer, that means the ball stops when it gets to him. Lots of sports writers feel this way also.

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  • #296587
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    llperez

    stanford, why not just say my name if you are gonna call me out for not watching heat games? Im the only person on here who said he is a ball stopper so i assume you are referring to me as “one of the people on here”. Yes i watch the heat games. And yes beasley is a ball stopper, at least he has to be if he wants to be effective. He doesnt make quick moves to beat his man. He doesnt get a lot of deep positions where you can just dump it in to him. He rarely gets out ahead of the field on fast breaks. For him to get his points, you have to give him the ball and let him go to work, and since he is not a super quick player nor is he a great passer, that means the ball stops when it gets to him. Lots of sports writers feel this way also.

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  • #296978
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    stanford hoops

    Because after the first couple of post i didnt read who posted what i just skimmed through the posts. i always call out the person who says things if i read who said it but if i dont i say “someone said”. not sure why you or the sports writers that you claim say this, think this especially when there are many games where he gets the ball and looks to pass as well as take alot less shots then anyother second option in the nba. hell i sit and yell at the tv sometimes because hes looking to pass instead of looking for his shot. I dont know too many second options who has games where he takes 8 or less shots while playing alot of minutes. most nights he takes shots like hes a 3rd or 4th option

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  • #296819
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    stanford hoops

    Because after the first couple of post i didnt read who posted what i just skimmed through the posts. i always call out the person who says things if i read who said it but if i dont i say “someone said”. not sure why you or the sports writers that you claim say this, think this especially when there are many games where he gets the ball and looks to pass as well as take alot less shots then anyother second option in the nba. hell i sit and yell at the tv sometimes because hes looking to pass instead of looking for his shot. I dont know too many second options who has games where he takes 8 or less shots while playing alot of minutes. most nights he takes shots like hes a 3rd or 4th option

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  • #296590
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    stanford hoops

    Because after the first couple of post i didnt read who posted what i just skimmed through the posts. i always call out the person who says things if i read who said it but if i dont i say “someone said”. not sure why you or the sports writers that you claim say this, think this especially when there are many games where he gets the ball and looks to pass as well as take alot less shots then anyother second option in the nba. hell i sit and yell at the tv sometimes because hes looking to pass instead of looking for his shot. I dont know too many second options who has games where he takes 8 or less shots while playing alot of minutes. most nights he takes shots like hes a 3rd or 4th option

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  • #296984
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    llperez

    which is why i said he needs to be a ball stopper if he wants to be effective. If hes not stopping the ball, hes not effective. I dont see that changing. There are plenty of guys who can get thier numbers while playing within the flow of the offense, but beasley needs to be catered to if he wants his points. And quite frankly, hes not good enough for a team to sit back and say we are gonna make sure beasley gets his shots. People who prefer wade give up the rock so the heat could watch beasley go to work probably would have trouble getting that team to the playoffs with that approach.

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  • #296826
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    llperez

    which is why i said he needs to be a ball stopper if he wants to be effective. If hes not stopping the ball, hes not effective. I dont see that changing. There are plenty of guys who can get thier numbers while playing within the flow of the offense, but beasley needs to be catered to if he wants his points. And quite frankly, hes not good enough for a team to sit back and say we are gonna make sure beasley gets his shots. People who prefer wade give up the rock so the heat could watch beasley go to work probably would have trouble getting that team to the playoffs with that approach.

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    which is why i said he needs to be a ball stopper if he wants to be effective. If hes not stopping the ball, hes not effective. I dont see that changing. There are plenty of guys who can get thier numbers while playing within the flow of the offense, but beasley needs to be catered to if he wants his points. And quite frankly, hes not good enough for a team to sit back and say we are gonna make sure beasley gets his shots. People who prefer wade give up the rock so the heat could watch beasley go to work probably would have trouble getting that team to the playoffs with that approach.

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    playing for miami with wade i agree i dont see him becoming the ball stopper he needs to be. i truley think where ever he goes next( if hes traded) he will be a better player

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    playing for miami with wade i agree i dont see him becoming the ball stopper he needs to be. i truley think where ever he goes next( if hes traded) he will be a better player

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    playing for miami with wade i agree i dont see him becoming the ball stopper he needs to be. i truley think where ever he goes next( if hes traded) he will be a better player

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    i agree he could be better in other systems and he should only get better regardless of where he plays. But i dont see him being a number 1 option on a playoff team and i dont see him doing all the other little things to make him an elite 2nd option. But I think he will be a very solid starter and put up good stats, but when this thread starts with people comparing him to KG and Kobe, I have to shake my head.

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    i agree he could be better in other systems and he should only get better regardless of where he plays. But i dont see him being a number 1 option on a playoff team and i dont see him doing all the other little things to make him an elite 2nd option. But I think he will be a very solid starter and put up good stats, but when this thread starts with people comparing him to KG and Kobe, I have to shake my head.

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    i agree he could be better in other systems and he should only get better regardless of where he plays. But i dont see him being a number 1 option on a playoff team and i dont see him doing all the other little things to make him an elite 2nd option. But I think he will be a very solid starter and put up good stats, but when this thread starts with people comparing him to KG and Kobe, I have to shake my head.

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    couldn’t have said it better myself llperez

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    couldn’t have said it better myself llperez

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    couldn’t have said it better myself llperez

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    we got a fizer sighting.

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    we got a fizer sighting.

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    llperez

    we got a fizer sighting.

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    only time can tell with a young player like that

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    only time can tell with a young player like that

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    only time can tell with a young player like that

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    I’m not sure you can say a player who averages 14 ppg and 6 rebs isn’t effective unless he’s a ball-stopper. He’s not quite as effective as he can be playing with Wade, not I wouldn’t say he’s not effective at all. Like I said, put him on a team with a good PG or a high-level shooter and he’ll succeed. Beasley can be a nice pick-n-roll/pick-n-pop threat because he can shoot and finish at the rim.

    When I think ball-dominant, I think of someone who dribbles the air out of the ball and has shown a tendency to take teams out of games. Beasley has done neither in the NBA.

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    I’m not sure you can say a player who averages 14 ppg and 6 rebs isn’t effective unless he’s a ball-stopper. He’s not quite as effective as he can be playing with Wade, not I wouldn’t say he’s not effective at all. Like I said, put him on a team with a good PG or a high-level shooter and he’ll succeed. Beasley can be a nice pick-n-roll/pick-n-pop threat because he can shoot and finish at the rim.

    When I think ball-dominant, I think of someone who dribbles the air out of the ball and has shown a tendency to take teams out of games. Beasley has done neither in the NBA.

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    I’m not sure you can say a player who averages 14 ppg and 6 rebs isn’t effective unless he’s a ball-stopper. He’s not quite as effective as he can be playing with Wade, not I wouldn’t say he’s not effective at all. Like I said, put him on a team with a good PG or a high-level shooter and he’ll succeed. Beasley can be a nice pick-n-roll/pick-n-pop threat because he can shoot and finish at the rim.

    When I think ball-dominant, I think of someone who dribbles the air out of the ball and has shown a tendency to take teams out of games. Beasley has done neither in the NBA.

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