[valentine]

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=39mpk9n

 

Every team wins with this trade.

[McWinningParticipant]

Except for your points.

[McWinningParticipant]

Except for your points.

[DNYCE]

Knicks fans, would you rather this trade or the Melo trade to LA?? http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22wjrfm?? LOL

[DNYCE]

Knicks fans, would you rather this trade or the Melo trade to LA?? http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=22wjrfm?? LOL

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

D NYCE FOR PREZ!!!!!!!!!!

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

D NYCE FOR PREZ!!!!!!!!!!

[DNYCE]

The Lakeshow also gets Congo Ca$h(Mbenga) when he is eligible to be traded.

Paul/Fisher

Kobe/Blake/Bellinelli

Ariza/Barnes/Walton

Odom/Caracter/Smith

Gasol/Ratliff/Mbenga

[DNYCE]

The Lakeshow also gets Congo Ca$h(Mbenga) when he is eligible to be traded.

Paul/Fisher

Kobe/Blake/Bellinelli

Ariza/Barnes/Walton

Odom/Caracter/Smith

Gasol/Ratliff/Mbenga

[DNYCE]

The Magic get better

Nelson/Duhon/Williams

Arenas/Parker/Redick

Turkoglu/Q.Richardson/Clark

Jamison/Bass/Anderson

Howard/Allen/Orton

Dan Gilbert would love to give away Jamison to give him a chance to beat Lehype in the playoffs

[DNYCE]

The Magic get better

Nelson/Duhon/Williams

Arenas/Parker/Redick

Turkoglu/Q.Richardson/Clark

Jamison/Bass/Anderson

Howard/Allen/Orton

Dan Gilbert would love to give away Jamison to give him a chance to beat Lehype in the playoffs

[DNYCE]

The Hornets upgrade at 3 positions(Brown,Artest,Bynum), and they can get lucky with Bynum if he stays healthy.

Williams/Jack/Banks

Brown/Thornton/Green

Artest/Pondexter

West/Mensah-Bonsu/Smith

Bynum/Gray/Andersen

Artest can retire in 2 years and tryout for the Saints LOL

[DNYCE]

The Hornets upgrade at 3 positions(Brown,Artest,Bynum), and they can get lucky with Bynum if he stays healthy.

Williams/Jack/Banks

Brown/Thornton/Green

Artest/Pondexter

West/Mensah-Bonsu/Smith

Bynum/Gray/Andersen

Artest can retire in 2 years and tryout for the Saints LOL

[DNYCE]

The Cavs improve their chances of becoming a playoff team next year with this trade( Richardson’s expiring contract will help them in the offseason, and it gives them a legit starting 2). Okafor reunites with B Scott and he gives them a legit center.

Sessions/Gibson

Richardson/Gee/Harris/Eyenga

Moon/Ebanks/Graham

Hickson/Powe/Samuels

Okafor/Varejao/Hollins

[DNYCE]

The Cavs improve their chances of becoming a playoff team next year with this trade( Richardson’s expiring contract will help them in the offseason, and it gives them a legit starting 2). Okafor reunites with B Scott and he gives them a legit center.

Sessions/Gibson

Richardson/Gee/Harris/Eyenga

Moon/Ebanks/Graham

Hickson/Powe/Samuels

Okafor/Varejao/Hollins

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Great Trade

[BKKnicksfanParticipant]

Great Trade

[JBrace19Participant]

yeah because the hornets want to give the lakers an even better chance to beat them!

[JBrace19Participant]

yeah because the hornets want to give the lakers an even better chance to beat them!

[DNYCE]

The Hornets have absolutely 0 chance against the Lakers bro, and this trade helps them save a ton of money(Okafor comes off the books). The Lakers just destroyed the Hornets the other day on a back to back. CP3 is about to complain  anyday now. The Lakers have to much size for every team in the west.

[DNYCE]

The Hornets have absolutely 0 chance against the Lakers bro, and this trade helps them save a ton of money(Okafor comes off the books). The Lakers just destroyed the Hornets the other day on a back to back. CP3 is about to complain  anyday now. The Lakers have to much size for every team in the west.

[BigDParticipant]

Orlando gets better?? i think worse mate.

[BigDParticipant]

Orlando gets better?? i think worse mate.

[DNYCE]

You haters can’t even come up with a good argument to prove that this is a bad trade. I could get use to seeing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbDEGI4RzHg

[DNYCE]

You haters can’t even come up with a good argument to prove that this is a bad trade. I could get use to seeing this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CbDEGI4RzHg

[DNYCE]

How does Orlando get worse?? By getting Jamison and Parker for Jason freaking Richardson??

[DNYCE]

How does Orlando get worse?? By getting Jamison and Parker for Jason freaking Richardson??

[DNYCE]

You are definitely overrating JRich.

[DNYCE]

You are definitely overrating JRich.

[BigDParticipant]

J-Rich is easily better then Jamison, they have a solid PF in Bass now anyway who is  is the strong player Orlando needs to defend the PF’s of the game. Jamison showed he doesn’t show up consistently in the playoffs, and he wouldn’t get minutes with Bass and Turkoglu around, they get forward heavy. J-Rich is a strong SG who can score in bunches.

[BigDParticipant]

J-Rich is easily better then Jamison, they have a solid PF in Bass now anyway who is  is the strong player Orlando needs to defend the PF’s of the game. Jamison showed he doesn’t show up consistently in the playoffs, and he wouldn’t get minutes with Bass and Turkoglu around, they get forward heavy. J-Rich is a strong SG who can score in bunches.

[DNYCE]

Jamison wouldn’t get playing time because of Bass?? LMAO

[DNYCE]

Jamison wouldn’t get playing time because of Bass?? LMAO

[BigDParticipant]

Have you seen Bass playing this season at all? Jamison can’t defend like Bass is this season, plus Bass is a lot stronger then him.

[BigDParticipant]

Have you seen Bass playing this season at all? Jamison can’t defend like Bass is this season, plus Bass is a lot stronger then him.

[DNYCE]

It’s a good thing many of you on this website are not GMs, because you guys would be unemployed within a week. It makes sense though if you think about it, this website is great for teams that will be in the lottery LMAO. By the way JRich is not better than Jamison. Arenas is a better player than JRich, there is no way he should be coming off the bench(especially with his salary).

[DNYCE]

It’s a good thing many of you on this website are not GMs, because you guys would be unemployed within a week. It makes sense though if you think about it, this website is great for teams that will be in the lottery LMAO. By the way JRich is not better than Jamison. Arenas is a better player than JRich, there is no way he should be coming off the bench(especially with his salary).

[DNYCE]

Of course I’ve seen Bass play, at this point he would be a solid backup to both Jamison and Howard.

[DNYCE]

Of course I’ve seen Bass play, at this point he would be a solid backup to both Jamison and Howard.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I believe DNYCE was hired by someone that HATES BASKETBALL to Destroy the game…..lol

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I believe DNYCE was hired by someone that HATES BASKETBALL to Destroy the game…..lol

[BigDParticipant]

What makes you think you would be employed as a GM??

[BigDParticipant]

What makes you think you would be employed as a GM??

[DNYCE]

Jamison spreads the floor for the offensively challenged Howard to go to work in the paint. Does Rashard Lewis at the 4 ring a bell?? Jamison would play the role of Lewis.

[DNYCE]

Jamison spreads the floor for the offensively challenged Howard to go to work in the paint. Does Rashard Lewis at the 4 ring a bell?? Jamison would play the role of Lewis.

[BigDParticipant]

I also believe they traded Rashard Lewis away? As he couldn’t defend the opposing teams Power Forward.

[BigDParticipant]

I also believe they traded Rashard Lewis away? As he couldn’t defend the opposing teams Power Forward.

[DNYCE]

The Magic is still a mediocre team as assembled that will not get out the east. If they pulled this trade off they will have a legitimate shot at the Finals.

If you don’t think this is a better Magic team than you just don’t know basketball very well.

 

Nelson/Duhon/Williams

Arenas/Parker/Redick

Turkoglu/Q.Richardson/Clark

Jamison/Bass/Anderson

Howard/Allen/Orton

[DNYCE]

The Magic is still a mediocre team as assembled that will not get out the east. If they pulled this trade off they will have a legitimate shot at the Finals.

If you don’t think this is a better Magic team than you just don’t know basketball very well.

 

Nelson/Duhon/Williams

Arenas/Parker/Redick

Turkoglu/Q.Richardson/Clark

Jamison/Bass/Anderson

Howard/Allen/Orton

[BigDParticipant]

This current Magic team has also won like 5 straight including a convincing win of the Spurs.

[BigDParticipant]

This current Magic team has also won like 5 straight including a convincing win of the Spurs.

[DNYCE]

Championships aren’t won in December clown.

[DNYCE]

Championships aren’t won in December clown.

[BigDParticipant]

Obivously, But the team they have right now is better then after your trade. Arenas can’t guard SG’s well, J-Rich does a better job, Redick would be above Parker, Van Gundy is playing him more then Arenas at the moment. Bass’ defense is much improved this season, and they’re playing him a lot of minutes when they could use turkoglu at the PF instead of SF why? Because they didn’t want to stretch the floor so much anymore, they still do, but nowhere near as much. Bass’ midrange jumpshot is just fine for them and Howard is offensively doing a lot better this season, so i wouldn’t say he his offensively challenged anymore.

[BigDParticipant]

Obivously, But the team they have right now is better then after your trade. Arenas can’t guard SG’s well, J-Rich does a better job, Redick would be above Parker, Van Gundy is playing him more then Arenas at the moment. Bass’ defense is much improved this season, and they’re playing him a lot of minutes when they could use turkoglu at the PF instead of SF why? Because they didn’t want to stretch the floor so much anymore, they still do, but nowhere near as much. Bass’ midrange jumpshot is just fine for them and Howard is offensively doing a lot better this season, so i wouldn’t say he his offensively challenged anymore.

[DNYCE]

Then you contradict yourself big time by saying that Turkoglu will play the 4 for streches(Turk is soft). He would be a huge defensive liability at the 4.

[DNYCE]

Then you contradict yourself big time by saying that Turkoglu will play the 4 for streches(Turk is soft). He would be a huge defensive liability at the 4.

[DNYCE]

So what was the point in bringing in Arenas, to be a backup PG?? They will eventually slide Arenas to the 2(his natural position imo).

Nelson/Duhon/Williams

Arenas/Parker/Redick

Turkoglu/Q.Richardson/Clark

Jamison/Bass/Anderson

Howard/Allen/Orton

This trade makes the Magic deeper and dangerous. As constructed the Magic wont make it out of the east I guarantee that.

[DNYCE]

So what was the point in bringing in Arenas, to be a backup PG?? They will eventually slide Arenas to the 2(his natural position imo).

Nelson/Duhon/Williams

Arenas/Parker/Redick

Turkoglu/Q.Richardson/Clark

Jamison/Bass/Anderson

Howard/Allen/Orton

This trade makes the Magic deeper and dangerous. As constructed the Magic wont make it out of the east I guarantee that.

[BigDParticipant]

Arenas doesn’t get a whole lot of mintues playing SG, he’s only getting 24mpg a game behind Nelson. Jamison is no good for the Magic, it just contradicts the entire reason they did their trade to get Richardson, Turkoglu and Arenas in the first place. This team only needs a backup big man to help Howard when he’s in foul trouble and their good enough to challenge the Heat and Celtics.

If you look at it defensively, going up against Garnett or Bosh or even some western conference PF’s in Gasol and Nowitzki. Bass is suited a lot better to defending these guys then Jamison. With Arenas at the 2 spot, Wade/Allen, Arenas would simply fall down, Wade is simply too strong and Allen would just shoot over him. Richardson at the 2 however, he can match Wade strength wise, but Wade would still outdo him easily. and Allen wouldn’t be able to shoot over him as easily.

This entire trade is just a lakers fans dream, and obviously won’t happen anyway.

[BigDParticipant]

Arenas doesn’t get a whole lot of mintues playing SG, he’s only getting 24mpg a game behind Nelson. Jamison is no good for the Magic, it just contradicts the entire reason they did their trade to get Richardson, Turkoglu and Arenas in the first place. This team only needs a backup big man to help Howard when he’s in foul trouble and their good enough to challenge the Heat and Celtics.

If you look at it defensively, going up against Garnett or Bosh or even some western conference PF’s in Gasol and Nowitzki. Bass is suited a lot better to defending these guys then Jamison. With Arenas at the 2 spot, Wade/Allen, Arenas would simply fall down, Wade is simply too strong and Allen would just shoot over him. Richardson at the 2 however, he can match Wade strength wise, but Wade would still outdo him easily. and Allen wouldn’t be able to shoot over him as easily.

This entire trade is just a lakers fans dream, and obviously won’t happen anyway.

[BigDParticipant]

and Turgoklu is only playing the 4 spot in limited stretches? hows that contradictory, espcially since its usually been when the opposing team is playing a bench PF or a soft one?

[BigDParticipant]

and Turgoklu is only playing the 4 spot in limited stretches? hows that contradictory, espcially since its usually been when the opposing team is playing a bench PF or a soft one?

[DNYCE]

Is Big D for Big dumbass?

[DNYCE]

Is Big D for Big dumbass?

[BigDParticipant]

Is that your only reply to the argument?

[BigDParticipant]

Is that your only reply to the argument?

[DNYCE]

Arenas is a 6’4 215

Wade is 6’4 220

Ray Allen is 6’5 205

Layoff the pipe.

[DNYCE]

Arenas is a 6’4 215

Wade is 6’4 220

Ray Allen is 6’5 205

Layoff the pipe.

[DNYCE]

Since when has JRich and defense come in the same sentence?? Did you watch the WCFS last season(Lakers vs Suns), Grant Hill and Dudley had to guard Kobe due to Richardson’s terrible on ball defense. 

[DNYCE]

Since when has JRich and defense come in the same sentence?? Did you watch the WCFS last season(Lakers vs Suns), Grant Hill and Dudley had to guard Kobe due to Richardson’s terrible on ball defense. 

[BigDParticipant]

So you went to their actual weights? You do realise what such a strong guard Wade is right? You do realise how high Allen jumps when he shoots right? Arenas didn’t gain strength when he added on the weight in case you didn’t realise?

Just looking at the trade you can see how one-way it is towards the Lakers. Hornets are looking to add talent to play WITH Paul rather then trade Paul away. Orlando gets robbed.

[BigDParticipant]

So you went to their actual weights? You do realise what such a strong guard Wade is right? You do realise how high Allen jumps when he shoots right? Arenas didn’t gain strength when he added on the weight in case you didn’t realise?

Just looking at the trade you can see how one-way it is towards the Lakers. Hornets are looking to add talent to play WITH Paul rather then trade Paul away. Orlando gets robbed.

[DNYCE]

Arenas is the 9th highest paid player in the entire league, and you think that he is going to continue coming off the bench?? LMAO

[DNYCE]

Arenas is the 9th highest paid player in the entire league, and you think that he is going to continue coming off the bench?? LMAO

[BigDParticipant]

Grant Hill  is a very good defender? and Dudley is reasonably good as well? Richardson is okay but isn’t the greatest, but matches up to opposing 2 guards a lot better then what Arenas does.

[BigDParticipant]

Grant Hill  is a very good defender? and Dudley is reasonably good as well? Richardson is okay but isn’t the greatest, but matches up to opposing 2 guards a lot better then what Arenas does.

[DNYCE]

How the hell is this one sided towards the Lakers? Because we are going to get CP3? Every team gets something back that will help thier franchise. The Hornets are not doing well financially(NBA owns them) they aren’t going to add talent around Paul of substance, get real. Trading Okafor would save the Hornets a ton of money.

[DNYCE]

How the hell is this one sided towards the Lakers? Because we are going to get CP3? Every team gets something back that will help thier franchise. The Hornets are not doing well financially(NBA owns them) they aren’t going to add talent around Paul of substance, get real. Trading Okafor would save the Hornets a ton of money.

[BigDParticipant]

Do you really think that these 4 teams would come together to do this trade? Arenas told Van Gundy he wanted to come off the bench? Orlando gets nothing which would help them, this subtracts from them. Cleveland wouldn’t take on the massive contract of Okafor if they want to rebuild, 4 years his bloated contract has left on it. New Orleans wants to keep paul and knows they must add players to do this. Ariza suits New Orleans better then what Artest does.

[BigDParticipant]

Do you really think that these 4 teams would come together to do this trade? Arenas told Van Gundy he wanted to come off the bench? Orlando gets nothing which would help them, this subtracts from them. Cleveland wouldn’t take on the massive contract of Okafor if they want to rebuild, 4 years his bloated contract has left on it. New Orleans wants to keep paul and knows they must add players to do this. Ariza suits New Orleans better then what Artest does.

[BigDParticipant]

Allen and Wade are probably the best perimeter defenders on their teams. Maybe James is better then Wade but it’s close.

[BigDParticipant]

Allen and Wade are probably the best perimeter defenders on their teams. Maybe James is better then Wade but it’s close.

[DNYCE]

If Arenas can’t guard opposing 2guards he shouldn’t even be on this Magic team. It’s also funny that you want to act as if Ray Allen and Wade won’t have to guard Arenas on the other end.

[DNYCE]

If Arenas can’t guard opposing 2guards he shouldn’t even be on this Magic team. It’s also funny that you want to act as if Ray Allen and Wade won’t have to guard Arenas on the other end.

[the lake show]

If Gilbert is 6’4 then I’m 6’6. Ive meet the guy plenty of times and he is 6’2 unless.Not that It matters because his height has nothing to do with his ability. And he looks good coming off the bench for the Magic. He doesn’t need to start he just needs to continue to play like he is playing off the bench like Jason terry does. It’s working very well so far so no need to change it

[the lake show]

If Gilbert is 6’4 then I’m 6’6. Ive meet the guy plenty of times and he is 6’2 unless.Not that It matters because his height has nothing to do with his ability. And he looks good coming off the bench for the Magic. He doesn’t need to start he just needs to continue to play like he is playing off the bench like Jason terry does. It’s working very well so far so no need to change it

[BigDParticipant]

It doesn’t matter who is better, the fact is they are BOTH much needed in Orlando

[BigDParticipant]

It doesn’t matter who is better, the fact is they are BOTH much needed in Orlando

[DNYCE]

Whats your point? Who is better Arenas or Richardson??

[DNYCE]

Whats your point? Who is better Arenas or Richardson??

[the lake show]

Right now I’m not sure. but that doesn’t matter. you go with what is working and what they have no is working. You dont make a change because you think it MIGHT work better if what you are doing is already working. There are plenty of guys who come off the bench who are better then the starters but it works better for them to come off the bench.

Ginobli

Terry

and other guys have come off the bench for the benefit of the team.

[the lake show]

Right now I’m not sure. but that doesn’t matter. you go with what is working and what they have no is working. You dont make a change because you think it MIGHT work better if what you are doing is already working. There are plenty of guys who come off the bench who are better then the starters but it works better for them to come off the bench.

Ginobli

Terry

and other guys have come off the bench for the benefit of the team.

[DNYCE]

Answer the question. Arenas should not be backing up Richardson period.

[DNYCE]

Answer the question. Arenas should not be backing up Richardson period.

[the lake show]

i Answered it. you go with whats Working. Thats common sense period.

[the lake show]

i Answered it. you go with whats Working. Thats common sense period.

[BigDParticipant]

He isn’t "backing up richardson" as the lake show said. He’s doing a Jason Terry type role.

[BigDParticipant]

He isn’t "backing up richardson" as the lake show said. He’s doing a Jason Terry type role.

[DNYCE]

Jason Terry and Ginobli don’t make Arenas money. Don’t let Lakeshow solve your problems BigD

[DNYCE]

Jason Terry and Ginobli don’t make Arenas money. Don’t let Lakeshow solve your problems BigD

[Toronto16Participant]

Every time DNyce comments I picture Kobe Bryant sitting around a computer seething at us.

[Toronto16Participant]

Every time DNyce comments I picture Kobe Bryant sitting around a computer seething at us.

[DNYCE]

Terry has never been an allstar and he has never made Arenas type money, so that point is rediculous. Ginobli and the Spurs have a championship to show for that experiment(he is starting now so please stop with that garbage). The NBA was very watered down when Ginobli came off the bench and he got starter minutes so you clowns really sound stupid.

[DNYCE]

Terry has never been an allstar and he has never made Arenas type money, so that point is rediculous. Ginobli and the Spurs have a championship to show for that experiment(he is starting now so please stop with that garbage). The NBA was very watered down when Ginobli came off the bench and he got starter minutes so you clowns really sound stupid.

[DNYCE]

I hate when great players like CP3 waste there good years on such mediocre teams. What a waste of such a great talent.

[DNYCE]

I hate when great players like CP3 waste there good years on such mediocre teams. What a waste of such a great talent.

[the lake show]

Who cares how much money he makes. You know how dumb that sounds?..start a guy because of the money He’s making?..should Micheal Redd start when he comes back because he is a former Allstar and he makes alot of money?..Should Eddy Curry because of the money he makes?..You have a point if the magic were losing and Gilbert was killing but they are winning and Gilbert is playing well off the bench. Makes no sense to start him just because of who he used to be and the money he makes

[the lake show]

Who cares how much money he makes. You know how dumb that sounds?..start a guy because of the money He’s making?..should Micheal Redd start when he comes back because he is a former Allstar and he makes alot of money?..Should Eddy Curry because of the money he makes?..You have a point if the magic were losing and Gilbert was killing but they are winning and Gilbert is playing well off the bench. Makes no sense to start him just because of who he used to be and the money he makes

[the lake show]

Should Blair come off the bench or Fields come off the bench since they make less money then some players on there team?

[the lake show]

Should Blair come off the bench or Fields come off the bench since they make less money then some players on there team?

[DNYCE]

Lakeshow they traded for Arenas huge difference. The Spurs drafted Blair, and the Knicks drafted Fields. Oh and Arenas is better than Richardson so your logic failed.

[DNYCE]

Lakeshow they traded for Arenas huge difference. The Spurs drafted Blair, and the Knicks drafted Fields. Oh and Arenas is better than Richardson so your logic failed.

[apb540Participant]

You are gay as hell for making me waste my time reading this trade.  Your Lakers are already good and don’t need CP3.   

[apb540Participant]

You are gay as hell for making me waste my time reading this trade.  Your Lakers are already good and don’t need CP3.   

[DNYCE]

Im sorry bro, I hate to see greats like CP3 waisting their careers in mediocrity. We give up our size, if that matters to any of you braindead haters.

[DNYCE]

Im sorry bro, I hate to see greats like CP3 waisting their careers in mediocrity. We give up our size, if that matters to any of you braindead haters.

[jdstormParticipant]

 I Don’t Want to be negative, but If this Trade goes through. New Orleans Loses big as their team is garenteed to leave. Bynum Works on the lakers because they have enough money to go over the Cap and pay for depth. NO has to get more value for money. also chris paul isn’t a great fit in the triangle. Which apparently LA wants to keep even after PJ retires. 

This trade Also destroys orlando’s chemistry as the Gil/Caron/Antwan Wiz had a pretty messy Breakup. Also Antwan in limited minutes  May Not be Much Better Than  Anderson. 

 

[jdstormParticipant]

 I Don’t Want to be negative, but If this Trade goes through. New Orleans Loses big as their team is garenteed to leave. Bynum Works on the lakers because they have enough money to go over the Cap and pay for depth. NO has to get more value for money. also chris paul isn’t a great fit in the triangle. Which apparently LA wants to keep even after PJ retires. 

This trade Also destroys orlando’s chemistry as the Gil/Caron/Antwan Wiz had a pretty messy Breakup. Also Antwan in limited minutes  May Not be Much Better Than  Anderson. 

 

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