[tuck243Participant]

 

……were taken out of context.

I’m sure most of you were watching the Cavs vs Warriors game on Christmas and heard Mark talk about how Steph Curry is “hurting” the game.  He used the wrong words to describe that maybe, but anyone that’s logical can tell what he was trying to say.    Young kids try to emulate what they see from their favorite players.   Been like this for a long time.   Allen Iverson was my favorite player, so I didn’t feel I needed to work on a jump shot.  AI wasn’t a great shooter, why do I need to be?  Terrible idea…

Insert Steph Curry and Mark Jackson’s comments.   Steph is playing lights out basketball.   The way he’s hitting shots from anywhere over the half court line is unprecedented in the game of basketball..period.   BUT these aren’t considered “great shots” at all.  Even for the rest of the NBA (who are the best in the world) and yet Steph makes it look easy.  That’s because Steph haven’t been shooting these 3’s all his life.   He worked and perfected this part of his game.  He talks about changing his shooting form and not being able to shoot from the free throw line.  His father was also an NBA player (he had access to trainers etc), so when Mark Jackson says “he’s hurting the game”, he’s right.  Kids are going to shoot 3’s from everywhere on the court.  

I see this with my son’s league.  All they want to do is jack up 3’s and they’re 12.   These are horrible shots with horrible shooting forms (at this age because most aren’t strong enough to shoot 3’s correctly while taking that shot).   No one attacks the basket and it’s a bunch of fancy dribbling to go 2 feet.  They combine that with a 3pt shot and now we have a sloppy basketball game.  

My son LOVES Kyrie and I hate it.  Not because I hate Kyrie, but Kyrie’s game is effortless.  You have to have the skills in order to make it look that effortless and it’s something that’s affecting my son’s game.  I can see the unwillingness to go hard, pointless dribble moves just because, and the reluctance to play any defense or fight for loose balls.   These are things in his game that kids at this age shouldn’t have. 

Mark is right because most kids don’t see the in-between, only the flashiness.   It wasn’t a shot at Steph, but a compliment on just how great he TRULY is.   I hate the media for taking what he say out of context because there was no ill intent or malice behind it at all.  Yes, Steph is easier to be because he’s not an athletic player, but his current play is so ridiculous!!! It’s never been done before.  Kids (and parents) have to understand how much work it takes to get there and doesn’t start with shooting NBA range 3’s either.    

 

 

 

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

 He may be affecting the local under 12’s league but he’s not hurting basketball at all! The kids you talk of that are just jacking up 3’s will learn pretty quickly to stop shooting them once they have a fg% of under 20, if they don’t they are not playing college ball let alone NBA.

As you rightfully said, what curry is doing is beyond ridiculous so the way I look at it is that for the very small percentage of kids that have the natural ability (hard work will only get you so far despite what is preached!) to play pro sports will now be wearing a golden state singlet whereas they may have been wearing baseball or football gear before being curry fans!

[SubZeroParticipant]

That’s not true. I see high school kids all the time and kids that play in our gym on campus (I go to a D2 school) want to be Steph and just jack up 3s instead of getting a better shot. Example that happens at least 10 times a game: on a fast break, someone’s ahead of the ball. Instead of running to the goal and getting an open layup, they stay out on the 3 point line and throw one up. And basketball is more than just guys who are going to play in college and the NBA, so I would say it matters

[Andrew1984Participant]

 If players are taking low-percentage, ill-advised perimeter shots when the situation calls for attacking the basket, LET THEM. You like to win, don’t you? 

I love playing against opponents who think they’re better shooters than they are. They’re easy to beat. 

 

[SubZeroParticipant]

Doesn’t help when your teammates do it too though lol. All I do is play pickup most everyday now, so I play with a mixture of a bunch of guys

[SubZeroParticipant]

Doesn’t help when your teammates do it too though lol. All I do is play pickup most everyday now, so I play with a mixture of a bunch of guys

[Andrew1984Participant]

 If players are taking low-percentage, ill-advised perimeter shots when the situation calls for attacking the basket, LET THEM. You like to win, don’t you? 

I love playing against opponents who think they’re better shooters than they are. They’re easy to beat. 

 

[SubZeroParticipant]

That’s not true. I see high school kids all the time and kids that play in our gym on campus (I go to a D2 school) want to be Steph and just jack up 3s instead of getting a better shot. Example that happens at least 10 times a game: on a fast break, someone’s ahead of the ball. Instead of running to the goal and getting an open layup, they stay out on the 3 point line and throw one up. And basketball is more than just guys who are going to play in college and the NBA, so I would say it matters

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

 He may be affecting the local under 12’s league but he’s not hurting basketball at all! The kids you talk of that are just jacking up 3’s will learn pretty quickly to stop shooting them once they have a fg% of under 20, if they don’t they are not playing college ball let alone NBA.

As you rightfully said, what curry is doing is beyond ridiculous so the way I look at it is that for the very small percentage of kids that have the natural ability (hard work will only get you so far despite what is preached!) to play pro sports will now be wearing a golden state singlet whereas they may have been wearing baseball or football gear before being curry fans!

[220Participant]

By that logic then nearly all the best players in the NBA are hurting the game. Most kids can’t hope to emulate what these guys do period. They are the best of the best. 

[220Participant]

By that logic then nearly all the best players in the NBA are hurting the game. Most kids can’t hope to emulate what these guys do period. They are the best of the best. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

that NBA players are best of the best.  Depends how you define best.  I think they are the longest and most athletic basketball players…..but some guys in college and europe are just beautiful to watch and have way higher IQs than the NBA players, they just don’t have the size and athleticism.  Like a Lynn Grier at Temple…man he had a sweet stroke.  NBA Ball can get really ugly at times especially with the youth movement.  

But I do agree that Mark Jackson’s comments are just out of place.  He’s not "hurting" anything by being spectacular and working hard at his craft.  They show his handle skills all the time.  I think media was just pointing out how awkward it is when Mark Jackson continues to comment on a team he used to coach that won the championship without him.  I actually dislike him as a color commentator, his shtick has gotten old, just like his voice probably got old to GSW…..i’ll get negged for this but he’s the "NY I came from NY and we ball in NY and I made it to the NBA so I know better" mentality…he had that in his game too….doesn’t come off a very humble guy but more a know-it-all kinda like Jalen Rose who I dislike too.  NYers tend to run their mouths too much…and this was just case in point.  Anyone would be a fool to say anything bad about Steph Curry at this point so I know he wasn’t doing that…he was just trying to be different and make a point to allt he little kids out there…..partly cuz he’s from NY.

As far as the kids’ game…ball IQ follows a spectrum….some kids have great IQ and other kids have poor IQ and put up terrible shots and thats why there is coaching.  The ones that have the IQ and are coachable make it.  Thats what MJ, Kobe, Lebron….etc all have.  Its what Ben Simmons definitely has and Brandon Ingram def knows how to play within an offense its clear.  Jaylen Brown I don’t think knows how to play without hte ball in his hands….like Jordan said today to Kobe "i saw the hunger in your eyes I just know you didn’t have brain yet".  The IQ comes with good coaching and the kid has to be receptive.  Ben Simmons is that guy man….watch him move without the ball….he’s constantly making the right play.  Boy knows how to play. 

You also see it at the LA Fitness gym ball.  Some people know how to play, others don’t….just really poor choice of words said at an awkward time by an awkward former coach of a team that just won it all without him.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

that NBA players are best of the best.  Depends how you define best.  I think they are the longest and most athletic basketball players…..but some guys in college and europe are just beautiful to watch and have way higher IQs than the NBA players, they just don’t have the size and athleticism.  Like a Lynn Grier at Temple…man he had a sweet stroke.  NBA Ball can get really ugly at times especially with the youth movement.  

But I do agree that Mark Jackson’s comments are just out of place.  He’s not "hurting" anything by being spectacular and working hard at his craft.  They show his handle skills all the time.  I think media was just pointing out how awkward it is when Mark Jackson continues to comment on a team he used to coach that won the championship without him.  I actually dislike him as a color commentator, his shtick has gotten old, just like his voice probably got old to GSW…..i’ll get negged for this but he’s the "NY I came from NY and we ball in NY and I made it to the NBA so I know better" mentality…he had that in his game too….doesn’t come off a very humble guy but more a know-it-all kinda like Jalen Rose who I dislike too.  NYers tend to run their mouths too much…and this was just case in point.  Anyone would be a fool to say anything bad about Steph Curry at this point so I know he wasn’t doing that…he was just trying to be different and make a point to allt he little kids out there…..partly cuz he’s from NY.

As far as the kids’ game…ball IQ follows a spectrum….some kids have great IQ and other kids have poor IQ and put up terrible shots and thats why there is coaching.  The ones that have the IQ and are coachable make it.  Thats what MJ, Kobe, Lebron….etc all have.  Its what Ben Simmons definitely has and Brandon Ingram def knows how to play within an offense its clear.  Jaylen Brown I don’t think knows how to play without hte ball in his hands….like Jordan said today to Kobe "i saw the hunger in your eyes I just know you didn’t have brain yet".  The IQ comes with good coaching and the kid has to be receptive.  Ben Simmons is that guy man….watch him move without the ball….he’s constantly making the right play.  Boy knows how to play. 

You also see it at the LA Fitness gym ball.  Some people know how to play, others don’t….just really poor choice of words said at an awkward time by an awkward former coach of a team that just won it all without him.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[barbabodomParticipant]

 I think it´s about bad habits. Stephen Curry´s game is amazing, but if done by an average player would be a disaster. Then you have players like Timmy, Manu, Korver, Conley, etc. No kid will succeed as they have, but if they try to emulate their games then the game itself will have more "good habits" on the court.

[barbabodomParticipant]

 I think it´s about bad habits. Stephen Curry´s game is amazing, but if done by an average player would be a disaster. Then you have players like Timmy, Manu, Korver, Conley, etc. No kid will succeed as they have, but if they try to emulate their games then the game itself will have more "good habits" on the court.

[Robb_CParticipant]

Little Billy jacking up NBA range 3pointers in his Sunday morning Park League

[Robb_CParticipant]

Little Billy jacking up NBA range 3pointers in his Sunday morning Park League

[dannyg219Participant]

 He ruined 2k16 smh

[dannyg219Participant]

 He ruined 2k16 smh

[IlladelphParticipant]

There have been so many great three point shooters over the years who shot the 3 as much or more than Steph Curry does.  Ray Allen, George McCloud, Dennis Scott, Quentin Richardson, Mookie Blaylock, all took more than 600 treys in a single season.  And if you are looking at the shameless chuckers who throw up more than 500 per season, the list is long.

Why then is Steph Curry being labeled "bad for basketball", and getting blamed for the legions of unskilled, and probably untalented young basketball players out there?  If anything Curry is one to emulate because he makes so many of them, and is a fantastic fundamental, all-around player.  I really can’t relate to Mark Jackson’s comments.  They speak to a loser mentality that blames Curry for the poor basketball performance of kids.  If Mark Jackson wants to know what is bad for basketball, it is that these kids are not taught well at a young age, and are funneled into AAU ball where most of them never develop their true potential.  Blame a lot of things for your son’s undisciplined shot selection, maybe look in a mirror, but blame Steph Curry?  No.  I cannot see any reason to do that.  At all.  

[IlladelphParticipant]

There have been so many great three point shooters over the years who shot the 3 as much or more than Steph Curry does.  Ray Allen, George McCloud, Dennis Scott, Quentin Richardson, Mookie Blaylock, all took more than 600 treys in a single season.  And if you are looking at the shameless chuckers who throw up more than 500 per season, the list is long.

Why then is Steph Curry being labeled "bad for basketball", and getting blamed for the legions of unskilled, and probably untalented young basketball players out there?  If anything Curry is one to emulate because he makes so many of them, and is a fantastic fundamental, all-around player.  I really can’t relate to Mark Jackson’s comments.  They speak to a loser mentality that blames Curry for the poor basketball performance of kids.  If Mark Jackson wants to know what is bad for basketball, it is that these kids are not taught well at a young age, and are funneled into AAU ball where most of them never develop their true potential.  Blame a lot of things for your son’s undisciplined shot selection, maybe look in a mirror, but blame Steph Curry?  No.  I cannot see any reason to do that.  At all.  

[Hype Machine]

Hah yeah I coached 16yos and Steph Curry is all their favourite player.

He’s not hurting the game, its a poor choice of words. He’s just creating an unrealistic role model that kids have no chance of becoming…but will try anyways.

At least its not as bad as young girls trying to aspire to look like celebrities in magazines.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Hah yeah I coached 16yos and Steph Curry is all their favourite player.

He’s not hurting the game, its a poor choice of words. He’s just creating an unrealistic role model that kids have no chance of becoming…but will try anyways.

At least its not as bad as young girls trying to aspire to look like celebrities in magazines.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 I understand his comments but do not agree at all. If anything curry is a fantastic guy for kids to emulate because he is not the biggest or most athletic guy, but through sheer hard work he became one of the best players in the world. He actually creates a much more realistic role model for the vast majority of kids than players like lebron or Durant, who were blessed with unbelievable natural physical advantages. I’m not saying 10 year old kids should go out and try to do what curry does. However, if they love the game and want to get better they should be doing the drills he did to get to that level.

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

 Just sheer hard work? Probably helps that his father was one of the best shooters of all time. Obviously he has worked hard but let’s not believe if the kid next door tried just as hard he would make it too! There is something called natural ability.

[ThenilonatorParticipant]

 Just sheer hard work? Probably helps that his father was one of the best shooters of all time. Obviously he has worked hard but let’s not believe if the kid next door tried just as hard he would make it too! There is something called natural ability.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 I understand his comments but do not agree at all. If anything curry is a fantastic guy for kids to emulate because he is not the biggest or most athletic guy, but through sheer hard work he became one of the best players in the world. He actually creates a much more realistic role model for the vast majority of kids than players like lebron or Durant, who were blessed with unbelievable natural physical advantages. I’m not saying 10 year old kids should go out and try to do what curry does. However, if they love the game and want to get better they should be doing the drills he did to get to that level.

[Hype Machine]

 All things considered…

Espn employs some trash on-air talent  

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 yeah… "talent"

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 yeah… "talent"

[Hype Machine]

 All things considered…

Espn employs some trash on-air talent  

 

[MatosParticipant]

 I totally get where people are coming from in defending Mark Jackson’s comments, but I agree in that it was the wrong choice of words and also that this point of logic can be said about any of the great players. 

Curry is unreal. He’s a video game. In fact, we cant even emulate some of the stuff he does if we played as him in NBA 2k. But by doing what he does, he’s not hurting the game any more than youngsters that try to be like Lebron. The same amount of kids that are not as talented as Curry shooting the ball, are not as athletically gifted as Lebron James & Michael Jordan when they try to power through the lane or throw up circus shots. The fact is that these kids that dribble around like Kyrie are not going to be pros unless they sharpen their skillset anyway. Plenty of players (in todays NBA) have copied Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, and Tracy McGrady growing up. When they got through years of playing organized ball and continuous commitement to work ethic, they got better but you were able to see flashes of the aforementioned athletes’ styles in their games.

 

[MatosParticipant]

 I totally get where people are coming from in defending Mark Jackson’s comments, but I agree in that it was the wrong choice of words and also that this point of logic can be said about any of the great players. 

Curry is unreal. He’s a video game. In fact, we cant even emulate some of the stuff he does if we played as him in NBA 2k. But by doing what he does, he’s not hurting the game any more than youngsters that try to be like Lebron. The same amount of kids that are not as talented as Curry shooting the ball, are not as athletically gifted as Lebron James & Michael Jordan when they try to power through the lane or throw up circus shots. The fact is that these kids that dribble around like Kyrie are not going to be pros unless they sharpen their skillset anyway. Plenty of players (in todays NBA) have copied Allen Iverson, Kobe Bryant, and Tracy McGrady growing up. When they got through years of playing organized ball and continuous commitement to work ethic, they got better but you were able to see flashes of the aforementioned athletes’ styles in their games.

 

[I am an idiotParticipant]

I used to feel the same way about Jordan. He was so good that everyone wanted to play like Mike. Fast forward 20 years and no one wants to play with their back to the basket, even if they are best suited to posting up. Even the 7 footers try to be MJ. Now they are going to jack up 3’s.

 

 I miss McHale and Olajuwan (showing my age here).

[SubZeroParticipant]

I miss them too, and I wasn’t even born when McHale played. I love back to the basket games (even though I’m a PG) and I wish more than anything that I could’ve watched basketball in the 80s and 90s. Nowadays I see people online knock Centers and 7 footers because they can’t shoot 3s, which I never thought would be a required thing 10 years ago

[SubZeroParticipant]

I miss them too, and I wasn’t even born when McHale played. I love back to the basket games (even though I’m a PG) and I wish more than anything that I could’ve watched basketball in the 80s and 90s. Nowadays I see people online knock Centers and 7 footers because they can’t shoot 3s, which I never thought would be a required thing 10 years ago

[I am an idiotParticipant]

I used to feel the same way about Jordan. He was so good that everyone wanted to play like Mike. Fast forward 20 years and no one wants to play with their back to the basket, even if they are best suited to posting up. Even the 7 footers try to be MJ. Now they are going to jack up 3’s.

 

 I miss McHale and Olajuwan (showing my age here).

[SubZeroParticipant]

I don’t think people get what he meant. He’s not saying Curry is actually bad for the game or that he’s a bad person to look up to. He meant all that kids want to do by watching him is jack up bad 3s (that are good shots to Steph only), which is completely true. It’s not Curry’s fault, it’s just the way it is. If anyone, it’s the fault of youth coaches and parents who don’t teach them any better

[SubZeroParticipant]

I don’t think people get what he meant. He’s not saying Curry is actually bad for the game or that he’s a bad person to look up to. He meant all that kids want to do by watching him is jack up bad 3s (that are good shots to Steph only), which is completely true. It’s not Curry’s fault, it’s just the way it is. If anyone, it’s the fault of youth coaches and parents who don’t teach them any better

[Andrew1984Participant]

 The game evens itself out; that’s what’s so beautiful about it. If you’re good enough at something to succeed by persisting with it, more power to you. If you’re losing games and shooting bad percentages, you have every incentive to identify and correct the problem; often times, that means improving shot selection. 

In Curry’s case, it’s working. You can’t argue with results. If a 13-year-old goes 1-for-15 on shot attempts from 25 feet out, his tokus is going to be on the bench, and if it’s not, the coach should be relieved of his duties. If the kid continues to play but continues to perform badly, the statistics will prove to him that Steph Curry he ain’t. 

 

 

[Andrew1984Participant]

 The game evens itself out; that’s what’s so beautiful about it. If you’re good enough at something to succeed by persisting with it, more power to you. If you’re losing games and shooting bad percentages, you have every incentive to identify and correct the problem; often times, that means improving shot selection. 

In Curry’s case, it’s working. You can’t argue with results. If a 13-year-old goes 1-for-15 on shot attempts from 25 feet out, his tokus is going to be on the bench, and if it’s not, the coach should be relieved of his duties. If the kid continues to play but continues to perform badly, the statistics will prove to him that Steph Curry he ain’t. 

 

 

[nath09Participant]

 Hard to coach 12yo but maybe the coach should point out the Curry gets 6 assists and 6 boards a game as well. Oh and probablly shoots a few hundred threes in practice every day and probably has done since he was old enough to make the distance.

He’s not bad for basketball he’s great for basketball as long as kids are getting taught how he became a star. If they do it the right way they become Steph Curry, if they do it the wrong way they become Eddy Curry. Which is also fine if you like riding the pine and eating hamburgers.

 

[nath09Participant]

 Hard to coach 12yo but maybe the coach should point out the Curry gets 6 assists and 6 boards a game as well. Oh and probablly shoots a few hundred threes in practice every day and probably has done since he was old enough to make the distance.

He’s not bad for basketball he’s great for basketball as long as kids are getting taught how he became a star. If they do it the right way they become Steph Curry, if they do it the wrong way they become Eddy Curry. Which is also fine if you like riding the pine and eating hamburgers.

 

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