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M. Beastly...

...becoming the left handed version of Carmelo Anthony???


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That was the comparison alot

That was the comparison alot of scouts gave when he came out, i wouldnt quite go that far tho, Melo is the purest scorer in the league imo. I think Beasley can be contained, Melo is virtually unstoppable!!!

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his offensive game is nice

b easy does have a very nice offensive repotire but imo hes not as complete as melo its not much better but melo does rebound better play better d and is one of the most clutch players in the league theres only a hand ful of players id rather have take a game winner then melo like kobe i still trust ray allen cant stand his face but hes money dirk is real close with melo so lets not jump the gun on b easy yes hes having a nice year but hes not melo

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Isn't Beasley Amphibous or

Isn't Beasley Amphibous or something? Liek he can use either hand but he shoots with the left. O.O.

Idk. he is getting better tho. And like i told everybody they really should have waited on beasley everybody was giving up on him and stuff but really he just needed a good place and he has had that in minnesotta where he has flourished

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Let me get this straight...

Let me get this straight... the day after Denver goes to Minnesota on the second day of a ack-to-back without Melo, Al Harrington, Nene, and K-Mart leaving the to start Melvin Ely and Shelden Williams and still win, there is a thread wanting to praise someone on Minnesota?

Does winning just not matter to people anymore? That is a relegation worthy loss. How a team could give up 119 points to a team that had to give big minutes on the floor to Birdman, Ely, Williams, Balkman, and Forbes is amazing. Please, quit praising that bunch of losers. Quit saying Love and Beasley are future All-Stars. Quit talking about Darko showing progress. Its over, they lost to a team that started Melvin Ely and Shelden Williams and had Birdman on the floor for 30 minutes. 119 points on the second day on a back-to-back.

And then comparing him to Carmelo Anthony who as a rookie took a garbage Denver team to the playoffs and has never been a part of a losing team? Stop it.

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Great comment by BTPH as

Great comment by BTPH as always.

He really worked on his J off the dribble. That aspect of his game really suprised me and he might be a part of a team that you might build around.

But comparing him to Melo is simply bs. He couldn't do anything when he was playing on an average Heat team.

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I'm not comparing B-easy to

I'm not comparing B-easy to Melo, BTPH, but you have to give him and K-love props. Beasley is improving and is no more the afterthought that he was in Miami nor is he the afterthought of the reason of Miami got the big 3. Love is averaging a double-double. I don't care if you are on a losing team or not, averaging a double double when not even half the season has gone by deserves some recognition. Why do you think we are giving props to Blake Griffin who is doing the same thing and is also on a losing team. Yeah. he's a rookie and K-love is not but it doesn't matter. If both K-love and Griffin weren't rookies they still deserve some recognition.

Now Magmo68 may be going a little overboard by comparing B-easy to Melo but at least he is giving a player some props who definitely deserves it.

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With all that improvement,

With all that improvement, why can't they beat a broken Nuggets team without its frontline? Why are they 8-25? Statistics don't determine progress. Michael Beasley is an afterthought because he is on a lousy team as opposed to being an afterthought because Spoelstra and trusted Haslem, Q-Rich, and even Yakhouba Diawara for the past two years. Congrats on the points, Ricky Davis scored a lot of points on bum teams too. He wasn't an All-Star. Kevin Love is an afterthought because he either can't or won't move his feet defensively. Congrats on the rebounds. DeJuan Blair could do that too, but he is actually on a winning team that asks its players to do more than try to get their own numbers. Have fun with the numbers Glen Davis will have when Garnett is out, he'll put up All-Star numbers, but Boston won't be as good.

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@ StF616

"Isn't Beasley Amphibous or something? Liek he can use either hand but he shoots with the left. O.O. "

I think you are looking for ambidextrous. Also, i do not think that he is, but i could be wrong.

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ftf616, he is ambidextrous!

ftf616, he is ambidextrous! hes not a frog...

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BTPH, how many times have you

BTPH, how many times have you actually watched the Timberwolves play this year?

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Blair couldn't do what Love

Blair couldn't do what Love does.Beasy and Kev are both very good at what the do scoring ands rebounding. Losing teams or not, they're doing their parts. Beasley is being guarded by the opposing teams best defenders nightly, and K-Love is just dominating games with his rebounding. Straight pwnin' anyone who gets in his way (save for Blake Griffin once). Haven't seen a rebounder like this since the days of Dennis Rodman. Love has that uncanny Rodman/ Larry Bird "nose for the ball" where he just knows where the ball is gonna go before it does and reacts to it before anyone else, while being in better position to get those wild rebounds that are off towards no one that could be the make or break on getting his team another possesion of leading to a fast break. The incredible thing about Love is his rebounding fundamentals that are fairly reminiscent of Moses Malone who was no slouch himself.

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To be fair Melo did have a

To be fair Melo did have a better team when he first got to denver

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The T Wolves suck. Stop

The T Wolves suck.

Stop with all this Beasely and Love madness.

Putting up numbers, nice offensive players and thats fine.

But neither of them has ever been a winner, hell Beasely was on an okay at best Heat team that was thin and he still was a nonfactor. Enough with the Melo and Rodman comparisons with these guys. They are on like the 3rd worst team in the NBA. Everyone is quick to denounce Monta Ellis because the Warriors are bad, but with these 2 all these fools are acting as if they are winning games. They are not. Winning is all that matters.

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Yeah stop with the

Yeah stop with the beasley,Griffin,love,evans,Wall love. the rookie of the year race should be between fields and neal right urbanovereverything...winners only

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And tonight BTPH and

And tonight BTPH and Urbanovereverything will go on a date to a fancy restaurant where they will exchange pleasantries, hold hands, and even kiss.

Most of their conversation will be about how they hate everything about the NBA and how they love to hate on everything everyone else says. Call it what you want, maybe they were bullied as kids or picked last in gym class, but these two are truly soulmates.

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Are Love and Beasely rookies?

Are Love and Beasely rookies? No, they are in there 3rd years and neither of thme has ever won anything.

Rookies get passes because they are put on horrible teams. But How is Michael Beasely remotely close to Anthony? Anthony was carrying teams to the playoffs as a rookie. Beasely spent 2 years as a non starter in Miami and is now putting up numbers on an 8-25 team and im suppose to believe hes carmelo? lmfao. You are truely an idiot with your Love love. He can rebound. Congrats. He cant guard anybody. Part of the reason the T Wolves blow.

But D Rose "cant guard anyone" even though hes been in the playoffs everyyear and his team is no.2 in the league in defensive efficiency. And 20-10. Alot better than 8-25.

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2 years as a non-starter in

2 years as a non-starter in Miami? Nope. Wrong. Your hate clouds your mind, man.

He was a full-time starter his 2nd year after starting sporadically in his 1st season with the Heat.

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If your gonna bash the

If your gonna bash the T-Wolves losing to the Nuggets at least look at the numbers closer, Billups for 36, Lawson 19, Afflalo 17, Aren't these guys all guards? Beasley and Love won't be defending these guys, that falls to Ridnour, Johnson, Brewer and etc. the Nuggets frontline was outrebounded by the T-Wolves, and massively dominated by Beasley getting 33 and Love's 26 and 14. The Wolves just couldn't contain the Nuggets guards.

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Most of their conversation

Most of their conversation will be about how they hate everything about the NBA and how they love to hate on everything everyone else says. Call it what you want, maybe they were bullied as kids or picked last in gym class, but these two are truly soulmates.

Lmao. I like the big 3 proving they still got it in boston. I like Wade and LBJ dominating everybody. I like D Rose becoming a superstar. I like the Knicks resurgance. I like the Spurs and Mavs rolling back the clock and making legit runs as contenders. I like the Lakers trying to 3 peat. I like OKC and their youth. I like Jerry Sloan and how his Jazz teams are always contenders regardless of who they have.

I wanna talk good basketball. Not about teams rotting in the lottery that suck. I could careless about Minnesota. They are aweful. If they have guys putting up stats, awesome. Most teams do. Even Blake Griffin is more worth a conversation than these lowlifes. Theyve been sneaky competitive lately and hes actually making Baron Davis look like he still cares alittle bit. But im not going to talk about a minnesota team that loses to everybody for 3 years straight and Kevin love and Michael Beasely, two guys who have never proven they can do anything on good teams.

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You guys just have such a

You guys just have such a fascination with talking about bad teams. Who cares if the T Wolves will be good in 4 years, how about talking about whose good right now?

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Keep hating, i really dont

Keep hating, i really dont care. You guys like the T Wolves. I get it. email me when they win a playoff series. Until then what Beasely and Love do will mean nothing.

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Blake Griffin and John Wall

Blake Griffin and John Wall haven't proven anything on a good team either, What's wrong with giving props to up and coming players, not every player is going to be put onto the one of the best teams in the league when they get here.

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Big D- because all anyone

Big D- because all anyone wants to talk about on here is the T Wolves. What props do they deserve? They are in there 3rd years and there team wins 24% of its game. Rose and Westbrook are leading legit playoff teams. Lets talk about them if we wanna talk up and coming players. They are all from the same draft.

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"Yeah stop with the

"Yeah stop with the beasley,Griffin,love,evans,Wall love. the rookie of the year race should be between fields and neal right urbanovereverything...winners only"

Good for a rookie is not the same as good. Blake Griffin is the best rookie, and on the curve of being a rookie he has been great. In comparison to the whole of the league, he isn't an All-Star. It is a big difference in the grading curve. Numbers on an awful team doesn't mean he is as good as a person putting up fewer numbers on respectable team.

"Blair couldn't do what Love does.Beasy and Kev are both very good at what the do scoring ands rebounding. Losing teams or not, they're doing their parts. Beasley is being guarded by the opposing teams best defenders nightly, and K-Love is just dominating games with his rebounding. Straight pwnin' anyone who gets in his way (save for Blake Griffin once). Haven't seen a rebounder like this since the days of Dennis Rodman. Love has that uncanny Rodman/ Larry Bird "nose for the ball" where he just knows where the ball is gonna go before it does and reacts to it before anyone else, while being in better position to get those wild rebounds that are off towards no one that could be the make or break on getting his team another possesion of leading to a fast break. The incredible thing about Love is his rebounding fundamentals that are fairly reminiscent of Moses Malone who was no slouch himself."

If Love has that "uncanny Rodman/ Larry Bird 'nose for the ball' where he just knows where the ball is gonna go before it does and reacts to it before anyone else" why doesn't that translate to having any clue where to be defensively? Rodman knew where to be. Bird wasn't always quick to the spot, but he knew. Love doesn't. Why is it that when Minnesota is blowing leads in 4th quarters to teams that they can't keep teams off the offensive glass? If Love had that special abillity, shouldn't it be there when San Antonio and Utah are rolling them after sleepwalking through three quarters? You are making stuff up because you like Love. The league has many great rebounders, but pace of play, being on a bad team that misses a ton of shots (including his own), and indifference to operating in an effective team defensive scheme matters. Those are major factors in why this player who are comparing to MOSES FREAKING MALONE, aka HOFer and dominant force on the champion 76ers, has lost three out of four games for his entire career.

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If you want to talk "good

If you want to talk "good basketball", as you say, why do you keep replying on this topic?

You're right, the people here do like the Wolves, so they are going to be a little biased. Why do you feel so inclined to post comments that are basically just negative? Let fans be fans. People can hope and dream, that's America. But alas, I'd expect nothing less than incoherent negative ramblings from you and BTPH.

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Well it is a Michael Beasley

Well it is a Michael Beasley thread wasn't it to begin with?? Maybe thats why people were talking about the T-Wolves?

You also have to look at the supporting casts that they both have on their teams

Rose has Boozer, Deng, Noah

Westbrook has Durant Harden Green Sefolosha

Who does the Wolves have apart from Beasley and Love, Johnson is a rookie and is inconsistent atm. And there really isn't anybody else.

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Good point, BigD.

Good point, BigD.

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I agree if you dont like it

I agree if you dont like it dont reply to the topic...like a guy who doesn't like getting punched but as soon as someone throws a punch he jumps in front of it..lol

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"Well it is a Michael Beasley

"Well it is a Michael Beasley thread wasn't it to begin with?? Maybe thats why people were talking about the T-Wolves?

You also have to look at the supporting casts that they both have on their teams

Rose has Boozer, Deng, Noah

Westbrook has Durant Harden Green Sefolosha

Who does the Wolves have apart from Beasley and Love, Johnson is a rookie and is inconsistent atm. And there really isn't anybody else."

Rose has had both Noah and Boozer for two weeks this year. Deng is completely contingent on his teammates for his scoring because he can't create for himself.

Did you really throw out the names of Harden and Sefolosha when talking about help? There is absolutey no difference between those two and the Minnesota combo of Webster and Brewer. The difference is that Durant and Westbrook are much, much better.

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yeah and westbrook and Durant

yeah and westbrook and Durant OKC team was bad the first year

Deng is a very good player who scores with or without help.

That team as a unit is better then the Twolves so lets not kid our selfs

Darko is darko who couldn't play on a couple of bad team

Webster has just got back

Ridnor is a good back up but lacking on defense

Love isnt a good defender

Just like the NBA talking head have said "Love and Beasley are very good players on a very bad team" its year one no one expected them to be good. No one expects them to be much better next year so no one is surprised at what they are doing now.

Blake is only a rookie in name only. He has had a year to watch and learn int he NBA which is very vaulable

Say what you want but there can be good players on bad teams. Are the players still not as good once they get better supporting cast and start winning?

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Did you really throw out the

Did you really throw out the names of Harden and Sefolosha when talking about help? There is absolutey no difference between those two and the Minnesota combo of Webster and Brewer. The difference is that Durant and Westbrook are much, much better.

Best point ive seen on this page.

Also, you morons talk about Roses supporting cast....his rookie year, he was his team's best player and they got in the playoffs. There 2nd best player cant even get minutes on the Pistons right now. Meanwhile, beasely was playing with D Wade, struggling to do anything offensively. And even this year, Rose has his team as the no.3 seed, with Noah and Boozer essentially never both in the lineup, while Beasely and Love, in there third years are losing games consistantly.

Rose is becoming an MVP candidate. Beasely and Love are getting talked up by a bunch of fools on some website. 8-25. 8 and freakin 25. Wake up morons, this team sucks. If Beasely was Melo and Love was a rodman/bird hybrid, im pretty sure they would be alot better than 8-25.

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"Say what you want but there

"Say what you want but there can be good players on bad teams. Are the players still not as good once they get better supporting cast and start winning?"

Do you really want to go through the list of elite players and HOFers who have been on completely inept teams for extended periods of time? These two aren't rookies and they aren't on an expansion team. That is a team with nine former lottery picks and they are losing three out of four games.

Have fun finding the All-Stars with that on their resume and championship teams built with this kind of foundation.

And on what planet is Luol Deng creating on his own in the NBA?

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1. Sefolosha is one of the

1. Sefolosha is one of the best defensive 2 guards out there atm, on a Oklahoma team that is doing very well considering they have no height. And Harden is slowly finding his offensive niche and is doing nice things for them right now.

Brewer is very inconsistent and the same with Webster, Brewer is meant to be a defensive guard but doesn't fully commit and Webster is below average.

Derrick Rose is in a world of his own when it comes to players, i think it's a bit unfair to compare Beasley to Rose, who will win at least 2 MVP's i think. Beasley wouldv'e struggled on that team last year because Wade pretty much had the ball all the time and he isn't the best defender out there, but for the Melo comparison, neither is Melo. Rose is also the no.3 side in the East because of the supporting cast he has and the defense they play, who on Minnesota is renowned for the defense? Chicago has Gibson, Deng and Brewer.

And BTPH, are you really comparing Beasley to HOFers?? Cmon, get real with the comparisons. And i'm assuming you haven't seen Luol Deng play then?

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Sefolosha is no better

Sefolosha is no better defensively than Brewer, he is just on a team that values playing defense. Both Harden and Webster are pretty good shooters but not really much more.

I am comparing Beasley to player who are foundations of elite teams, and those guys tend to go to the HOF.

I have seen Deng, and apparently you haven't if you think he can create for himself.

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Beasley

Let's not forget Beasley and love were in the same high school class as Blake Griffin and Eric Gordon so let's not give the clippers a pass just because Blake stayed in college another year and goes to a team were he's not playing with one of the five best players in the game who is ball dominant. Beasley will be really good in this league he just got drafted by the wrong team he came out of college as a go to player and had to settle as a complimentary player a role he wasn't accustomed to. The twolves aren't winning right now because other than ridnour their whole starting lineup is under 26 they have basically no veterans. Twolves need to keep these players their young talented and will grow with time ala the thunder.

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Harden is a lot more then

Harden is a lot more then just a straight up shooter, and most people would take him over Webster.

Sefolosha is a lot better defensively then Brewer, Brewer is just a hell of a lot more athletic.

Most people would say Love, Beasley, Johnson are a good foundation to mature into an elite team, and it's hating to say otherwise. They're very young with no leadership. Give them 1-2 more seasons and a decent PG and C, and they'll do an Oklahoma as Jaysmith said just before.

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I don't think Brewer is much

I don't think Brewer is much more athletic than Sefolosha, but he can jump higher due to his lack of weight. The guy might be listed at 200 or whatever, but trust me I have season tickets and there is no way in hell Brewer weighs over 180.

Anywho, I've always said that Sefolosha is one of the best perimeter defenders in the game today and can gaurd the 1-4 positions pretty effectively. Brewer, on the other hand, looks like he's made of paper and can only gaurd players who don't try to push him around(Brewer is frighteningly weak).

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Yes i have watched him. most

Yes i have watched him. most of Dengs points dont come from assists they come from him creating. Thats obvious from watching and even more so when you go to stats( i think thats what it's called) and it breaks down how players score the most)

Also is Al Jefferson still not that good now that he's with the Jazz since his game isn't any different then when he was with the Twolve's. Every Elite HOF didn't go to a team and automatically make them a contendar. It doesn't matter if the Fans don't think a player on the bad team is good as long as the Coach's, and peers do

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"Most people would say Love,

"Most people would say Love, Beasley, Johnson are a good foundation to mature into an elite team, and it's hating to say otherwise. They're very young with no leadership. Give them 1-2 more seasons and a decent PG and C, and they'll do an Oklahoma as Jaysmith said just before."

When in those 1-2 seasons are they going to start playing defense? When is that "elite" team magically going to resemble any of the elite teams (LA, Miami, San Antonio, Dallas, Boston, Orlando) or even the next wrung (Utah, OKC, Chicago, and Atlanta)? And, if they just need a little a little more help, then they just need twelve lottery picks in order to do better than lose three out of four games?

I'm just curious because apparently it is jut "hating to point out that winning teams have stars who make a difference, as well as have the team pass the ball well and play defense. Because clearly there is a mass conspiracy of hatred centered on Minnesota and not because they play a losing brand of basketball.

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Remember those elite teams

Remember those elite teams are full of veterans. No veterans in Minnesota. Oklahoma didn't play much defense at all before last season, so what's to say Minnesota can't start playing good D next season or even the one after that. Good teams don't always happen straight away. Oklahoma, Chicago, Atlanta and a few others have had their down years recently. Minnesota certainly don't need 12 lottery picks, just maturity and a PG and C. Johnson, Beasley, Love are good pieces to move along with, just like the Durant, Westbrook, Green core 3 before Oklahoma took off.

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^exactly

^exactly

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Isn't Beasley Amphibous or

Isn't Beasley Amphibous or something? Liek he can use either hand but he shoots with the left.

lmfao, beasley a frog? ambidextrous son...

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"Yeah stop with the

"Yeah stop with the beasley,Griffin,love,evans,Wall love. the rookie of the year race should be between fields and neal right urbanovereverything...winners only"

=.= you have to be kidding me. then all the ROY should give to all the 20 something picks whom came in to a contender team already. this is the worst argument i have ever heard.

and wtf is a winner? just bc someone is on a winning team, doesnt make him a winner. you have actually to be CONTRIBUTING something, and that whereever you go, you can change the culture of that team to make it a winning team. now, thats a winner. you put filed and neal in minnesota and washingotn, lets see if they can be "winners"...

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BTPH hurt a lot of feelings

BTPH hurt a lot of feelings in this thread lol.

And LMFAO!!! @ Isn't Beasley Amphibous or something? Liek he can use either hand but he shoots with the left.

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"BTPH hurt a lot of feelings

"BTPH hurt a lot of feelings in this thread lol"

And I agree with just about everything he was saying too. Call me crazy.

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No fan of a team has been

No fan of a team has been brutal for years wants to hear that they are still not on the right path. I get it. It doesn't make them right.

The statistically based arguments for players being good in the NBA doesn't work. By PER standards, the Rockets have All-Star caliber players in Martin, Scola, and really whichever point guard they have play 40 minutes (Brooks or Lowry). The problem is when they actually are on the floor against three legit All-Stars (as was the case when they played Miami the other night) it does not take much to see the difference. Golden State has three numbers All-Stars with Ellis, Curry, and Lee. It does not amount to winning. Defense matters, it really does go a long way in the NBA. Now that Brandon Roy is playing on one leg and Greg Oden is out for the season, it isn't like Portland is one of the most talented teams around. Certainly with who they are playing now, they aren't a top eight team in talent from the West. Most people would probably have them near the bottom. Nobody is making cases for LaMarcus Aldridge, Marcus Camby, or Andre Miller to be All-Stars. They are still a pain in the butt to play in Portland, largely because they are one of the best defensive teams in the league. Other than Camby and Miller, they are basically a bunch of early 20-somethings and they play the right way. They show that it is possible for a young team to guard people. Utah is showing that Al Jefferson is capable of trying defensively. But it is easier for fans and media of the bad teams to ignore the nine former lottery picks and say there is no talent, blame it on youth, and think that everything is just going to work itself out. They don't connect blaming Rambis for trying to hold players accountable for not playing defense by benching them is not actively hindering progress.That "culture" Dorell Wright was talking about in Miami that was hard to learn is an actual part of developing a winner in the NBA.

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btph

that last one just shut this topic down.

it takes talent to do what k love and beasley are doing this year. they are very talented players, but they are on a horrible team. realistically, name a team as bad as the wolves that would have 2 all stars. there arent any because winning is the point of basketball. minny is young but they do have talent and should be winning at a higher clip if beasley and love were these supreme difference makers. the comparison that are being made are just because of one aspect of basketball. people see beasley score and think melo, they see love rebound and they think rodman. but what u arent realizing is that these players did more than just that one thing.

i guess a point im trying to make is why is this team 8 and 25? u can list a bunch of reason but the truth is that their best players arent as good as other teams best players. and no, i dont agree with johnson, beasley, and love being a foundation for an elite team, hell no.

sorry twolves fans, your team has no direction. your gm has just stockpiled former lottery picks in a hope that they would find some magic. it isnt working, the best thing now is to hope you can trade for a superstar or get lucky and draft one because you do not have one.

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Beasley and Love are both 22

Beasley and Love are both 22 years old guys. And unlike Durant and Melo the team wasn't built around either one of them more of like a motley crew of unwanted players pieced together who are all playing great with the odds against them. No they aren't playing any defense...yet...but that will come with added veteran leadership and the understanding of what it takes to win consistently. There should be no doubt that if one of your teams goes against the Wolves and leaves Love or Beasley unchecked one of them could torch your team for an upset win. But Love and Beasley are the only 2 Wolves teams really have to worry about and neither one of them play great defense making it easier to neutralize their offensive effectiveness. But's let's not underestimate how huge a part of defense rebounding is.

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The most important thing BTPH

The most important thing BTPH brought up in this argument was this:

When you look at the great players in this league, now, or alltime, the Lebrons, Wades, Kobes, Melos, D Roses, Dirks, its that they may have spent 1-2 years in the lottery at the start of there careers, but buy their 2nd or 3rd years they were already winners, because they were truely great players.

If Kevin love was THAT GOOD and was already an alltime great rebounder, and Beasely was already the "left handed Carmelo" then this team would be GOOD. They would already be winning games. Its not like the other 10 guys are D Leaguers. Corey Brewer, Martell Webster, Wes Johnson, and Luke Ridnour are all NBA players. If Love and Beasely were ELITE then they would be a good team already. But they dont play any defense and really dont dominate games the way great players do. Love will go 20-14 and you wont even notice he was there most of the time. The argument you guys are trying to present is ridiculous to actually believe this team is going to be a winner in the near future. The OKC thing was once in a lifetime. it was 2 guys both making a quantum leap the same year, and a drastic improvement in coaching that lifted them from horrible to playoff team. That isnt happening with the T Wolves. With there current roster, even a couple minor tweaks isnt going to make them a winner in the west. They are a bad basketball team, and most of the reason for that is because Love and Beasely arent better than most other teams 2 best players. Your stars still have to dominate the games, and again, its not like the T Wolves have no role players whatsoever.

And im calling it right now, when its all said and done, Kevin Love will go down as the 4th wheel of Miami Heat....believe it.

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I don't get it

Alot of people in this thread have basically said that since the T-wolves don't win that which makes love and beasley bad... tyreke evans team is like 6 and 23 no one ever said he was bad, or even blake griffin whos team is also mediocre right now. So every team that doesn't have a decent record makes good players on that team bad... I really don't get the logic in that.

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