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- Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:01pm #39068
Raef LaFrentzParticipantLooks like LeBron took it home this year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:05pm #669221
Meditated StatesParticipantWhats the point in even having a race. I think Durant should have gotten it this year, but hey LBJ put up some great numbers I guess. The route this is going he will win it for the next 7 years straight.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:08pm #669222
Wahoo757ParticipantWhy? They should rename this the BNA (Best Numbers Award) because that’s all it comes down to these days. Kevin Durant was dar more valuable to the Thunder than Lebron James to the Heat.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:12pm #669223
Meditated StatesParticipantRose last year seem to be the only guy to push him for MVP in the last 4 years.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:17pm #669224
Wavy BagelsParticipant1. The amazing season Westbrook was having. Could’ve carrired the team if Durant was out SOME games (NOT ALL).
2. The head-to-head between Heat and Thunder. The Heat owned them in matchups.
3. The Thunder not closing out the season with the #1 West seed.
4. (Not) winning scroing title. Had Kobe played those last games of the season, the scoring title would’ve been his. Kobe led the league in scoring all season until he rested for the playoffs.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:20pm #669225
Tongue-Out-Like-23ParticipantSo it’s all about numbers, huh zach?
The fact that LeBron is the best perimeter defender in the league means nothing to you? The fact that defensive solidity and consistency does not rely on numbers rather by watching the game proves it’s not about numbers. If Durant played an ounce of defence, he would have made a better case. LeBron could have won DPOY this season, that show exactly how numbers don’t tell the entire story.
LeBron is the best post defender on his team. He’s the best perimeter defender on his team. He’s the best help-side defender on his team. He’s the best fastbreak defender on his team. He’s the best rebounder on his team. He’s the best passer on his team. He’s the best tempo-controller on his team. He’s the best ball-handler on his team.
Call me when Durant is any of those.
0- Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 8:25pm #669355
ItsVictorOladipoParticipantSo it’s all about numbers,So it’s all about numbers, huh zach?
The fact that LeBron is the best perimeter defender in the league means nothing to you? The fact that defensive solidity and consistency does not rely on numbers rather by watching the game proves it’s not about numbers. If Durant played an ounce of defence, he would have made a better case. LeBron could have won DPOY this season, that show exactly how numbers don’t tell the entire story.
LeBron is the best post defender on his team. He’s the best perimeter defender on his team. He’s the best help-side defender on his team. He’s the best fastbreak defender on his team. He’s the best rebounder on his team. He’s the best passer on his team. He’s the best tempo-controller on his team. He’s the best ball-handler on his team.
Call me when Durant is any of those.
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I think Lebron deserved MVP too but I have to point out that Durant IS the best rebounder on his team and plays more than an "ounce of defense". I get it that you think that Lebron should have been MVP but trashing Durant in order to prove your point is kinda unneccesary.
On a sidenote I would love to get it out of the way; Durant is a very good rebounder for a SF, I constantly see threads on these boards that refer to Carmelo and LBJ as better rebounders and Durant as a guy that "only scores". Durant was the second leading rebounder among SFs this year, behind only Ersan Ilyasova (who plays SF and PF ). He also is an improving defender that in every game I see plays above average D.
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- Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:25pm #669226
Memphis MadnessParticipant^^^^^^
Even if you consider LeBron and Durant to be equal in scoring and rebounding, LeBron has a huge edge on passing and defense.
Durant will win one of these one days, but LeBron deserved it this year. You can’t really argue against him, and I am a big Kevin Durant fan.
LeBron is the best two way player in the game and that, I think, is what helped LBJ get another MVP award.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:25pm #669227
Winning_TimeParticipantCan they just cut the crap and call it the Best player award, it’s getting old to hear people say but the value blah blah blah LeBron was the best player this year, either start voting in a most valuable manner or vote for the best, which it appears that they are voting for the best.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:44pm #669236
Wahoo757ParticipantDon’t try preaching to me like I’ve never watched basketball. Anyone that’s going to try to convince be that Lebron James meant more to his team (in terms of wins and losses) than Kevin Durant should just save their time. Yes Dwyane Wade missed some time but still having him for 2/3 of the season and Bosh and their deep bench without Lebron wouldn’t be quite affected as the Thunder without Kevin Durant in my opinion. I’m giving Durant the award from a pure value standpoint, not from a talent standpoint
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:48pm #669241
bloodshyParticipantWe all knew it was comming. I’m glad to see it go to the guy that earned it. LBJ was arguably the #1 player on O and on D this year. That hasn’t happened in a very long time. Now, let’s see if he can win the award that will really shut up the doubters. I think it’s unlikely given SA’s incredible scheme/depth (unless SA loses to OKC).
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:51pm #669240
KayjayParticipantThis statement is flawed. Kobe Bryant was the best player in the NBA before Lebron started to dominate. Yet Kobe Bryant only has one MVP. Lebron has 3, not because he is the best player every year, but what he means to his team. Lol you ever seen what happens when LBJ is off the court? The offense isn’t ran nearly as smooth.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 1:53pm #669242
bloodshyParticipant"I’m giving Durant the award from a pure value standpoint, not from a talent standpoint"
How ’bout consider the offensive production and defensive dominance? On those metrics, this was an easy choice. I love KD–absolutely one of my favorite players. But anyone arguing against LBJ this year has a bias based on something disconnected from what happened on the court. And yes, KD was easily the #2 player this year. The drop from 2 to 3 is big this year.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 2:04pm #669243
benny15Participantheres a quote for you guys,
"James joins Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Wilt Chamberlain, Larry Bird, Magic Johnson and Moses Malone as the only other three-time winners."
quick question, who of all those players remind you of LeBron the most? i’ve heared the common answers in the past, but im just curious on what other people will say because honestly, i’ve changed my oppinion of who he reminds him the most in that list of greats.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 2:07pm #669248
Pacers_Fan33Participantfor what its worth the heat were 13-1 without d-wade, which speaks volumes about Lebron
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 2:18pm #669251
I May Be WrongParticipantYikes, is the LeBron hate still going on? I thought we were past that last year lol
It’s well deserved and I don’t even think the voting should be that close. I love Kevin Durant and really thought he would get it earlier in the season (even though LeBron was still better statistically at that point but the Thunder were just so dominate and the Spurs were not on that crazy winning streak out west). razorSHARPE is correct. The Thunder stumbled a little bit and Kevin Durant’s number’s weren’t overwhelming compared to LeBron’s numbers (BTW, I thought Durant did win the scoring title? Remember Kobe sat the last game out)
I understand the arguement that if you take Durant off the Thunder, they would struggle mightly compared to LeBron being taken off the Heat. However, we can’t use that as a hypothetical situation. When D-Wade was out, LeBron stepped up and I believe led them to a 12-1 record (or something close to that). This guy was consistently great on offense and defense all season long and it has to be noticed. I’m sorry but this is no arguement IMO
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 2:24pm #669253
NbanflguyParticipantDurant is better at perimeter shooting and thats it. The Lebron – Durant argument really isnt close
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 2:33pm #669259
The Scare Crow RisesParticipantBut here are my 2 cents
1. This MVP means absolutely nothing if The Heat don’t win a Championship
2. Chris Paul deserved to be the NBA MVP if we are to believe the award should go to most valueable player on his Team, The Clippers went from being the worst franchise in NBA history to being the toast of the League…Take Chris Paul off the Clippers and they are at the bottom of the standings, if I had a vote it would have gone to Chris Paul…
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 2:34pm #669260
HitsterParticipantThree MVP’s at 27 years old is a huge legacy by LeBron. Personally I’d have liked Kobe to get another one given this could have been his last genuine run at MVP whilst LeBron has several more shots.
KD will surely win an MVP within the next few years but like LeBron he maybe needs a title to really leave a true legacy.
I doubt Kobe would want to swap any of his NBA titles for extra MVP awards.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 2:53pm #669266
NYK2010ParticipantLebron deserves it Durant was close but Lebron is the best player in the league.
Will be fun to see if they face each other in the Finals.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 3:48pm #669277
aamir543ParticipantGlad he got it, top 5 perimeter defender, and the best all-around offensive player equals the best player, and he’s played like it, congrats to him.
We all hammer Lebron for not getting a ring and shying away in big moments, and although the critisizm is warranted, we hace to give him credit for harnessing his great talents and not wasting them away like several great ones in any sport. Think of all the wasting talents did with their fame, and talents, Leborn is a hard worker and wants that ring, I hope he gets one soon, but props to him for staying focused because I’m sure it must’ve been crazy being such a huge phenom at the age of 17, and being dubbed the chosen one, but he needs a ring, and he wants it.
And he’s 27 now, which is why i do think that a player wiht his talents should’ve been able to reach the promised land by now, however I thought it was ridiculous when we were treating a 23 or 24 year old Lebron like he was some sort of failure because he didn’t have a ring yet, and all the "Ring for the King" stuff at such an early age put such an unbearable weight of pressure that he was afraid to fail, which is why he went to South Beach.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 3:54pm #669280
dede21Most similiar player to Lebron probably Clyde Drexler
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 3:55pm #669281
dede21Oh you mean out of those 7 then Larry Bird would be the closest
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 4:26pm #669292
llperezmy vote would have gone to lebron. But as we all know, his next step is a ring. He wont be judged on mvp’s. He’s gonna retire a top 10 player all time regardless imo, but needs one ring at least to be top 5.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 4:43pm #669299
GrandmamaParticipant1. Lebron
2. Durant
3. Kobe
That’s how I’d score it this year. Lebron definitely deserves it, although I’m a much bigger fan of Durant. Durant will get one in the next couple years.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 4:46pm #669300
aamir543Participant^I personally would put Paul ahead of Kobe, he turned a perenial loser into a top 4 or 5 team in the West, barring letting up their 3-1 series lead, they should advance, do it tonight at home in fact, cause you don’t want to go into a game 7 on the road. Paul transformed the Clips, he has to be third, Kobe 4th, and Tony Parker 5th, followed by Love.
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 6:29pm #669339
billykParticipantThis misconception the Lebron shy away from the big moments is just silly, last year against the Mavericks (playing 44 mins a game throughout the playoffs) Lebron was exhausted thus passive fourth quarter. But if you look at Lebrons playoff numbers and numbers in the clutch he is as good if not better than any player in the league..
I have watched hom play his whole career and he is a player that before the Mavs series was considered a clutch time performer. His playoff numbers especially in the clutch speak for itself..
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 6:49pm #669343
Malik-UniversalParticipanti really thought cp3 shouldve won
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 8:36pm #669356
Charlie SheenParticipantThe fact that all the analyst and experts always say LeBron is putting up phenomenal numbers means he wins it is the point he’s making
Kevin Love averaged 26 and 13 and shot 37% from 3 and played 40minutes a game but he isn’t in MVP consideration
MVP criteria goes beyong numbers, take LeBron off the Heat and their still at top 2 team in the East, take Durant off of OKC and their an 8 seed, take CP3 out of LA and their an 8 seed
Not taking away from LeBron’s phenomenal and I mean phenomenal season but he wasn’t the Most Valuable Player in the league he just performed at the highest level. It’s like the NFL they have MVP, Offensive Player and Defensive Player of the Year awards because like I said numbers dont tell the whole story
0 - Posted on: Fri, 05/11/2012 - 8:58pm #669359
OldSkoolBasketballParticipantDon’t know what you’re smoking but without Lebron the Heat won’t be the 2nd seed. 13-1 without Wade.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/12/2012 - 2:52am #669365
DurantsWingspanIm a HUGE Durant fan, as you can tell by my name, but this obviously should have gone to LeBron and it isn’t really that close. Durant is great, unbelieveable, when looking at todays game don’t get be wrong, but LeBron is great, unbelieavable, from look at the game all-time. Durant can score great, but that is really the only thing he hangs with LeBron in. LeBrons ability to be possibly a top-5 passer in the NBA and a top-2 defender is what makes this not really that close. LeBron is such a good team mate you can not really complain if he wins every single year. He truly is the most valuable. He has 3 now, but I don’t know how he donest have more. Those years he made the Cavs good every year, he could have won the MVP every year.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/12/2012 - 4:07am #669374
invalidParticipantwe all have diff arguements about this award. mvp or best player. in the case of mvp maybe dwill have a chance from that PURE meaning of being valuable to the team.despite only having 22 W’s imagine this team without him. lol. and wizards without wall. it could have gotten worst right? or even yet kevin love as he put monster numbers if only the best player is picked he has chance too despite the losing record of his team. thats why it has lots of voters, to gather as much and tally. yeah maybe durant is much valuable to lebron as to heat(which i do not believe, with the emergence of harden i think he is an all star level right now). all things considered,the valuability and talent it would still go to lebron, easy pick for me. and the second pick is easy too, for durant.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/12/2012 - 5:12am #669381
FastAndFuriousParticipantKudos to Lebron, he was supposed to win it!
3 MVP’s at 27 is impressive and he could win at least 3-5 more.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/12/2012 - 5:51am #669386
NYK2010Participant5 more thats asking a lot especially if the Heat improve at PG, Center and the bench.
I’d say 2-3 more considering guys like Rose, Durant, CP3, Howard will continue to be very valuable to their teams.
Also sooner this is his 9th yr sooner or later the amt. of game will catch up to him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/12/2012 - 7:16am #669414
Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant"Durant IS the best rebounder on his team"
Oh God… I’m not even going to start with this. Did Ibaka die this morning? Durant averages ONE extra rebound while playing TEN extra minutes, please tell me how that proves he’s a better rebounder.
" I get it that you think that Lebron should have been MVP but trashing Durant in order to prove your point is kinda unneccesary."
But its’ okay for everybody to trash LeBron for no reason? Well, that makes no sense. Just because Durant is the lovely baby, along with Rose, doesn’t mean we have to treat them differently as we do Kobe, LeBron, and Wade. We criticize them, why are we not allowed to even touch Rose or Durant?
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