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  • #20517
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Once a fan favorite..Now the most hated man in the NBA..

    Lebron’s Decision to leave Cleveland rubbed alot of people the wrong way..
    1.Fans are booing him when he’s out in public..
    2.Burning his Cavs jerseys..
    3.Threatening fans that wear his Heat jerseys to a Indians game..
    4.Old Schoolers saying he took the easy way out by leaving to join another superstar..
    5.Basketball purists saying he’ll never be as good as Jordan..

    Things might be so much easier on him.If he hadnt made the announcement on National TV..

    Some fans might forgive him..If he admit that he went by it the wrong way…

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  • #374563
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    NYK2010
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    Wrong not his decision to leave, just how he went about it.
    1.Fans are booing him when he’s out in public..- that would’ve happened no matter what
    2.Burning his Cavs jerseys..- no class by the Cavs fans
    3.Threatening fans that wear his Heat jerseys to a Indians game..- thats just stupid
    4.Old Schoolers saying he took the easy way out by leaving to join another superstar..- true but he would’ve left to play with Rose/Boozer, or Amare in NY
    5.Basketball purists saying he’ll never be as good as Jordan..- he was never going to be as good as Jordan anyway.

    I agree he went at it the wrong way this whole decision on nat’l TV thing.
    He needs an image consultant but I think after 7 years of basically doing the right thing seems he doesn’t really care what ppl think anymore. Lebron got his wish left to play with his friends in Miami and is still making big bucks and once the season comes around so will more fans just not Cavs fans. Its going to look so obvious if he admits the decision was wrong, I’m not holding my breath.

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  • #374586
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    NYK2010
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    Wrong not his decision to leave, just how he went about it.
    1.Fans are booing him when he’s out in public..- that would’ve happened no matter what
    2.Burning his Cavs jerseys..- no class by the Cavs fans
    3.Threatening fans that wear his Heat jerseys to a Indians game..- thats just stupid
    4.Old Schoolers saying he took the easy way out by leaving to join another superstar..- true but he would’ve left to play with Rose/Boozer, or Amare in NY
    5.Basketball purists saying he’ll never be as good as Jordan..- he was never going to be as good as Jordan anyway.

    I agree he went at it the wrong way this whole decision on nat’l TV thing.
    He needs an image consultant but I think after 7 years of basically doing the right thing seems he doesn’t really care what ppl think anymore. Lebron got his wish left to play with his friends in Miami and is still making big bucks and once the season comes around so will more fans just not Cavs fans. Its going to look so obvious if he admits the decision was wrong, I’m not holding my breath.

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  • #374579
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    flybobbyfly
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    lebron cant even admit he was wrong when he didnt shake the magics players hands after getting knocked out of the playoffs. he has trouble admitting that it wasnt his teammates fault when he throws the ball out of bounds, or that it isnt the defenders fault when he gets called for traveling after taking 4 steps.

    there is no way lebron is going to issue an apology

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    • #374601
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      215philly215
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      When Lebron refused to shake hands after his defeat, I lost respect for him…For me, it was the final straw…A lot of people gave him a pass, saying he’s so competitive or he’s still young…I think Lebron handled the fame and expectations very impressively when he first came into the league as a teenager…But along the way, he developed a cocky, selfish, spoiled attitude…I’m around people each day who think this guy really is the King or some type of royalty and I don’t get it…I know that he is one of the most talented basketball players in the NBA, but his actions and behavior show that he doesn’t necessarily respect the others who are in the league or those who came before him…

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    • #374624
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      215philly215
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      When Lebron refused to shake hands after his defeat, I lost respect for him…For me, it was the final straw…A lot of people gave him a pass, saying he’s so competitive or he’s still young…I think Lebron handled the fame and expectations very impressively when he first came into the league as a teenager…But along the way, he developed a cocky, selfish, spoiled attitude…I’m around people each day who think this guy really is the King or some type of royalty and I don’t get it…I know that he is one of the most talented basketball players in the NBA, but his actions and behavior show that he doesn’t necessarily respect the others who are in the league or those who came before him…

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  • #374602
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    flybobbyfly
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    lebron cant even admit he was wrong when he didnt shake the magics players hands after getting knocked out of the playoffs. he has trouble admitting that it wasnt his teammates fault when he throws the ball out of bounds, or that it isnt the defenders fault when he gets called for traveling after taking 4 steps.

    there is no way lebron is going to issue an apology

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  • #374583
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    Toronto16
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    Please let me know what Lebron needs to apologise for? If people want to hate a man whom they don’t know and have never met that’s their business.

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  • #374606
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    Toronto16
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    Please let me know what Lebron needs to apologise for? If people want to hate a man whom they don’t know and have never met that’s their business.

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  • #374587
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    ilike.panochas
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    Lebron doesn’t have to apologize to anyone. Remember when Kobe Bryant was the most hated player in the NBA, specially during the rape allegation ? Hes turned that around because he let his game speak for itself and shut the critics up. Lebron needs to do the same thing, whether its winning 5 championships, winning more MVPs, being the best player in the NBA, he just needs to let his game speak to shut the critics/haters up and hes capable of doing these things, he doesn’t need to apologize to anyone.

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  • #374610
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    ilike.panochas
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    Lebron doesn’t have to apologize to anyone. Remember when Kobe Bryant was the most hated player in the NBA, specially during the rape allegation ? Hes turned that around because he let his game speak for itself and shut the critics up. Lebron needs to do the same thing, whether its winning 5 championships, winning more MVPs, being the best player in the NBA, he just needs to let his game speak to shut the critics/haters up and hes capable of doing these things, he doesn’t need to apologize to anyone.

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  • #374613
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    gainsey15
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    Lebron should only apologize to the fans of Cleveland not ownership or management. He was a Free Agent so he could leave and do whatever he wants but to not say one word about the fans who supported him was just wrong.

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  • #374636
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    gainsey15
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    Lebron should only apologize to the fans of Cleveland not ownership or management. He was a Free Agent so he could leave and do whatever he wants but to not say one word about the fans who supported him was just wrong.

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  • #374617
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    @mess.eee

    First… Kobe issued plenty of apologies to his wife, the LA organization and his fans. He even apologized to the “victim”. Not only that… He showed a humbled attitude. The man was humbled… He didn’t come out tweeting/texting that he was going to remember all of the critics and endorsement companies who dropped him before due process. He wasn’t seen out dancing or partying. He laid low and just played basketball. The pre rape allegation Kobe Bryant and the post rape allegation Kobe Bryant have been two different people.

    Second… Kobe’s rape allegation is a completely different situation than what LeBron did anyway. The sad thing is that even though LeBron didn’t committ a crime and isn’t on trial, it feels like what he did was a lot more disrespectful and arrogant. Everything he did was thought out and planned… He did it intentionally. And the way he’s acted afterwards has been that of a person who thinks that 100% of what he did was OK.

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  • #374640
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @mess.eee

    First… Kobe issued plenty of apologies to his wife, the LA organization and his fans. He even apologized to the “victim”. Not only that… He showed a humbled attitude. The man was humbled… He didn’t come out tweeting/texting that he was going to remember all of the critics and endorsement companies who dropped him before due process. He wasn’t seen out dancing or partying. He laid low and just played basketball. The pre rape allegation Kobe Bryant and the post rape allegation Kobe Bryant have been two different people.

    Second… Kobe’s rape allegation is a completely different situation than what LeBron did anyway. The sad thing is that even though LeBron didn’t committ a crime and isn’t on trial, it feels like what he did was a lot more disrespectful and arrogant. Everything he did was thought out and planned… He did it intentionally. And the way he’s acted afterwards has been that of a person who thinks that 100% of what he did was OK.

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  • #374623
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    HueBoND 2001
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    AND HE IS THANKING EVERYONE OF YOU GOOD OR BAD FOR GIVING HIM MORE PUBLICITY……..Was his move good or bad who cares MIAMI OR CLEVELAND GET OVER IT I just rode through that miserable land…..Only an idiot one stay there in there prime…..T

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  • #374646
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    AND HE IS THANKING EVERYONE OF YOU GOOD OR BAD FOR GIVING HIM MORE PUBLICITY……..Was his move good or bad who cares MIAMI OR CLEVELAND GET OVER IT I just rode through that miserable land…..Only an idiot one stay there in there prime…..T

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  • #374631
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    sheltwon3
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    Wow it is funny how you can make a business move despite the awkwardness and it be seen as worst than a criminal offense. That is crazy and the world we live in today. I feel like I loved sports but why would people want Lebron to stay in Cleveland. I would rather New York and Miami be good before I care anything about Cleveland. Miami and New York’s success helps the league.

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  • #374654
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    sheltwon3
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    Wow it is funny how you can make a business move despite the awkwardness and it be seen as worst than a criminal offense. That is crazy and the world we live in today. I feel like I loved sports but why would people want Lebron to stay in Cleveland. I would rather New York and Miami be good before I care anything about Cleveland. Miami and New York’s success helps the league.

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  • #374645
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    McWinning
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    Why does it help the league?

    New YOrk sells out tickets even when they suck, and Cleveland will have a VERY hard time selling tickets without him.

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  • #374668
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    McWinning
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    Why does it help the league?

    New YOrk sells out tickets even when they suck, and Cleveland will have a VERY hard time selling tickets without him.

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  • #374659
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    mrknowitall313
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    the ppl that are booing him are the same ppl that was worshiping the ground he walked on as early as may. how you gone switch on a MAN for not doing what you wanted him to do? the sad part is ppl put athletes on such high pedestals for playing a sport. at the end of the day he did what was best for him and his family. imagine how you would feel if ppl was mad at you for making a decision on your life. he wasn’t under contract demanding a trade like some many others have done, including the great kobe. he was unrestricted free agent not a slave meaning he don’t owe anybody, outside of his family, anything. is taking the cavs to highs they never been to and helping a city’s economic that was terrible not enough? yeah he couldn’t win a ring there but cavs fans acting like they was used to winning lol they should b so grateful! imagine if those lottery balls dont go their way.

    NOBODY WILL EVER BE BETTER THAN JORDAN NO MATTER WHAT!!

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  • #374682
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    mrknowitall313
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    the ppl that are booing him are the same ppl that was worshiping the ground he walked on as early as may. how you gone switch on a MAN for not doing what you wanted him to do? the sad part is ppl put athletes on such high pedestals for playing a sport. at the end of the day he did what was best for him and his family. imagine how you would feel if ppl was mad at you for making a decision on your life. he wasn’t under contract demanding a trade like some many others have done, including the great kobe. he was unrestricted free agent not a slave meaning he don’t owe anybody, outside of his family, anything. is taking the cavs to highs they never been to and helping a city’s economic that was terrible not enough? yeah he couldn’t win a ring there but cavs fans acting like they was used to winning lol they should b so grateful! imagine if those lottery balls dont go their way.

    NOBODY WILL EVER BE BETTER THAN JORDAN NO MATTER WHAT!!

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  • #374679
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    nba00
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    When Lebron refused to shake hands after his defeat, I lost respect for him…For me, it was the final straw…A lot of people gave him a pass, saying he’s so competitive or he’s still young…I think Lebron handled the fame and expectations very impressively when he first came into the league as a teenager…But along the way, he developed a cocky, selfish, spoiled attitude…I’m around people each day who think this guy really is the King or some type of royalty and I don’t get it…I know that he is one of the most talented basketball players in the NBA, but his actions and behavior show that he doesn’t necessarily respect the others who are in the league or those who came before him…

    215philly215, I agree with you. finally I saw someone see the real attitude of lebron and not being fooled by the media. its all the fault of the fans and media.
    He even calls himself “a lebron james” that already showed that all the praises, ass kisses that people are giving him already got into his head.
    To keep the leauge alive the game should be exciting remember kobe and jordan’s winning shots? you’ll love to see those but not if your a kobe hater.
    The heat will be an exciting team but only heats fans will watch the game on TV after the 3 quarters. In the 4th quarter there will be no competition, only the lakers and boston can compete with them.

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  • #374702
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    nba00
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    When Lebron refused to shake hands after his defeat, I lost respect for him…For me, it was the final straw…A lot of people gave him a pass, saying he’s so competitive or he’s still young…I think Lebron handled the fame and expectations very impressively when he first came into the league as a teenager…But along the way, he developed a cocky, selfish, spoiled attitude…I’m around people each day who think this guy really is the King or some type of royalty and I don’t get it…I know that he is one of the most talented basketball players in the NBA, but his actions and behavior show that he doesn’t necessarily respect the others who are in the league or those who came before him…

    215philly215, I agree with you. finally I saw someone see the real attitude of lebron and not being fooled by the media. its all the fault of the fans and media.
    He even calls himself “a lebron james” that already showed that all the praises, ass kisses that people are giving him already got into his head.
    To keep the leauge alive the game should be exciting remember kobe and jordan’s winning shots? you’ll love to see those but not if your a kobe hater.
    The heat will be an exciting team but only heats fans will watch the game on TV after the 3 quarters. In the 4th quarter there will be no competition, only the lakers and boston can compete with them.

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  • #374709
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    BasketBalAllan
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    This is ridiculous. It’s almost as if as soon as Lebron announced what he was doing everyone freaked out even though they already knew what was going to happen. I guess I cannot truly speak as to what other people thought, but I know I did not think he was going to stay with the Cavs. Why should he have? I had the feeling right before the announcement that the general consciences was that he would be stupid to stay with a team that, whether it was his fault or not, failed to really do anything in the playoffs. Nobody thought the team was going to be better this year if he had stayed, so why stay? Who gives a crap if he grew up in the same state as the team he was on, it would not have mattered if he was not an amazing player so stop this idiotic double standard, people move out of Cleveland all the time to find a better job, so if you are going to hate one, then hate them all. As for all of these “Legends”, all they see is hypocrisy and a chance jump on a guy who could potentially surpass their former greatness. Every single one of these people needed someone else who was great on their team to win, including Jordan. And I seriously doubt that if they were given the chance they would have done any different.

    One more thing:

    Lebron made a decision to switch teams so he could have a better shot at winning a ring.

    Kobe cheated on his wife with a sleazy chick and was then accused of rape.

    Anyone who think what Lebron did was worse, is a complete moron.

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  • #374732
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    BasketBalAllan
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    This is ridiculous. It’s almost as if as soon as Lebron announced what he was doing everyone freaked out even though they already knew what was going to happen. I guess I cannot truly speak as to what other people thought, but I know I did not think he was going to stay with the Cavs. Why should he have? I had the feeling right before the announcement that the general consciences was that he would be stupid to stay with a team that, whether it was his fault or not, failed to really do anything in the playoffs. Nobody thought the team was going to be better this year if he had stayed, so why stay? Who gives a crap if he grew up in the same state as the team he was on, it would not have mattered if he was not an amazing player so stop this idiotic double standard, people move out of Cleveland all the time to find a better job, so if you are going to hate one, then hate them all. As for all of these “Legends”, all they see is hypocrisy and a chance jump on a guy who could potentially surpass their former greatness. Every single one of these people needed someone else who was great on their team to win, including Jordan. And I seriously doubt that if they were given the chance they would have done any different.

    One more thing:

    Lebron made a decision to switch teams so he could have a better shot at winning a ring.

    Kobe cheated on his wife with a sleazy chick and was then accused of rape.

    Anyone who think what Lebron did was worse, is a complete moron.

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  • #374787
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @BasketBalAllan

    I think you’re a moron for feeling like you had to post something that’s common sense. I don’t think anybody in their right mind would say that LeBron choosing to sign with another team is worse than Kobe cheating on his wife and being accused of rape. Not only that… The two situations are completely different. Kobe’s situation was wrong from a moral standpoint and the way LeBron *handled his free-agency* was wrong from a professional standpoint.

    It’s a fact that a lot of athletes cheat on their wives… Some get caught, some don’t. However, can you name another athlete (of LeBron’s caliber) in the history of sports that handled their free-agency like LeBron did? I have no problem with LeBron signing with another team… I never thought he’d return to Cleveland. However, I do have a problem with the lack of professionalism, arrogance and selfishness that he carried himself with. LeBron has a history of poor sportsmanship and unprofessionalism. His decision to do “The Decision” was terrible.

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  • #374811
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    @BasketBalAllan

    I think you’re a moron for feeling like you had to post something that’s common sense. I don’t think anybody in their right mind would say that LeBron choosing to sign with another team is worse than Kobe cheating on his wife and being accused of rape. Not only that… The two situations are completely different. Kobe’s situation was wrong from a moral standpoint and the way LeBron *handled his free-agency* was wrong from a professional standpoint.

    It’s a fact that a lot of athletes cheat on their wives… Some get caught, some don’t. However, can you name another athlete (of LeBron’s caliber) in the history of sports that handled their free-agency like LeBron did? I have no problem with LeBron signing with another team… I never thought he’d return to Cleveland. However, I do have a problem with the lack of professionalism, arrogance and selfishness that he carried himself with. LeBron has a history of poor sportsmanship and unprofessionalism. His decision to do “The Decision” was terrible.

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  • #374991
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    mrknowitall313
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    anybody who thinks lebron was the first superstar to not shake hands after a loss is stupid. he was just the one to get caught on camera. i remember the bad boy pistons all walking off the court together before the game was over.

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    • #375409
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      215philly215
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      nobody said he was the 1st not to shake hands….whether he was the 1st or not isn’t the point… the point is that it is an example of his unsportmanship and ego…anyone who can’t see that is stupid…

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    • #375436
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      215philly215
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      nobody said he was the 1st not to shake hands….whether he was the 1st or not isn’t the point… the point is that it is an example of his unsportmanship and ego…anyone who can’t see that is stupid…

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  • #375018
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    mrknowitall313
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    anybody who thinks lebron was the first superstar to not shake hands after a loss is stupid. he was just the one to get caught on camera. i remember the bad boy pistons all walking off the court together before the game was over.

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  • #375453
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    IknoBall12
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    how alot of u fans are pissed about him not shaking hands with the magic. im not a bron fan by any means but i kno alot of ppl and players myself included that in the heat of the moment if uve played ur heart out u dont always shake hands. u jus dont. i mean after the jazz nuggets series alot of guys didnt shake hands. and nobody cared. i mean im not a sore loser or anything but its jus being competitive.

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  • #375481
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    IknoBall12
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    how alot of u fans are pissed about him not shaking hands with the magic. im not a bron fan by any means but i kno alot of ppl and players myself included that in the heat of the moment if uve played ur heart out u dont always shake hands. u jus dont. i mean after the jazz nuggets series alot of guys didnt shake hands. and nobody cared. i mean im not a sore loser or anything but its jus being competitive.

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  • #375462
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    JNixon
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    Yeah it’s extremely lame that people care about him not shaking hands IMO. Almost gay. Like…….why would anybody even pay attention to something like that. Everybody is on Lebron’s nuts, but I didn’t notice or care that he didn’t shake hands until everybody was going on and on about it the next day. Like, who really cares? Makes no sense to me. It wasn’t exactly a great thing to do, but man, you really are on his nuts if you care about something like that IMO

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  • #375489
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    JNixon
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    Yeah it’s extremely lame that people care about him not shaking hands IMO. Almost gay. Like…….why would anybody even pay attention to something like that. Everybody is on Lebron’s nuts, but I didn’t notice or care that he didn’t shake hands until everybody was going on and on about it the next day. Like, who really cares? Makes no sense to me. It wasn’t exactly a great thing to do, but man, you really are on his nuts if you care about something like that IMO

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  • #375578
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    215philly215
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    it’s almost gay to notice someone not shaking hands?….but its not gay to act like a spoiled little girl because you lost a game?…He can’t show respect after the game they loss,but when they’re doing good, they got gay choreographed dance routines and celebrations? I’m sorry but I am cut from a different cloth than that…It’s about being a man and acknowledging that your competitor was the better man that day…We all know that yeah, people do it, but that doesn’t mean its ok..Besides that is just one of the reasons why I lost respect for him…

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  • #375608
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    215philly215
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    it’s almost gay to notice someone not shaking hands?….but its not gay to act like a spoiled little girl because you lost a game?…He can’t show respect after the game they loss,but when they’re doing good, they got gay choreographed dance routines and celebrations? I’m sorry but I am cut from a different cloth than that…It’s about being a man and acknowledging that your competitor was the better man that day…We all know that yeah, people do it, but that doesn’t mean its ok..Besides that is just one of the reasons why I lost respect for him…

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  • #375849
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    mrknowitall313
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    i guess you never seen players actually balling up and crying after a lost have you? if you think jordan shook hands after every lost you are extremely crazy.

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    • #375913
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      215philly215
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      I’ve seen it…and that’s not the most masculine thing in the world either

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    • #375940
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      215philly215
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      I’ve seen it…and that’s not the most masculine thing in the world either

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  • #375877
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    mrknowitall313
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    i guess you never seen players actually balling up and crying after a lost have you? if you think jordan shook hands after every lost you are extremely crazy.

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  • #375915
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I 100% disagree.

    LeBron had the right to leave Cleveland, he was a free agent. ESPN and Jim Gray contacted LeBron about the 1 hour special. He didn’t plan that. Let the fans burn his jerseys, there money.

    Another thing pissing me off. Can the old heads just shut up? Jordan DID NOT win a title without Pippen. Malone would have never been in position to win a title without Stockon. Barkley left Philadelphia for the Suns ( who had Thunder Dan, Kevin Johnson, etc) and then left for Houston ( Pippen, Hakeem, Drexler there). It’s 100% BS what there doing. Just be quiet and let the NBA move on and allow LeBron to do his thing. Like Iggy 9 said, hop off these dudes nuts.

    The only players to ever win a title by himself was Bill Walton in 1977 and Hakeem in 1994.

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    • #375917
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      215philly215
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      why don’t you hop off Iggy 9’s nuts….

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    • #375944
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      215philly215
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      why don’t you hop off Iggy 9’s nuts….

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  • #375942
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I 100% disagree.

    LeBron had the right to leave Cleveland, he was a free agent. ESPN and Jim Gray contacted LeBron about the 1 hour special. He didn’t plan that. Let the fans burn his jerseys, there money.

    Another thing pissing me off. Can the old heads just shut up? Jordan DID NOT win a title without Pippen. Malone would have never been in position to win a title without Stockon. Barkley left Philadelphia for the Suns ( who had Thunder Dan, Kevin Johnson, etc) and then left for Houston ( Pippen, Hakeem, Drexler there). It’s 100% BS what there doing. Just be quiet and let the NBA move on and allow LeBron to do his thing. Like Iggy 9 said, hop off these dudes nuts.

    The only players to ever win a title by himself was Bill Walton in 1977 and Hakeem in 1994.

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  • #375931
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    Why not hop off my nuts? Please.

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  • #375958
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    Why not hop off my nuts? Please.

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  • #375935
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    This is why the forums are dying man.

    People like 215philly215 coming on here wasting time, not making sense and making stupid A.ss posts.

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    • #375961
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      215philly215
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      No little buddy,the forum is dying because people think that their opinion is the law….my opinion is my own opinion…love it or hate it, I’m allowed to have it…I don’t come on here, claiming to be an expert,so I don’t argue about stats or none of that…But I will state my opinion and thats what forums are for…I was wondering “how did me stating an opinion turn into, this is gay,this is lame, you’re an idiot, and all that”?…So I looked at some of your profiles,and now I understand…This site is full of little kids…Still in High school,or just starting college…SMH

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    • #375988
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      215philly215
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      No little buddy,the forum is dying because people think that their opinion is the law….my opinion is my own opinion…love it or hate it, I’m allowed to have it…I don’t come on here, claiming to be an expert,so I don’t argue about stats or none of that…But I will state my opinion and thats what forums are for…I was wondering “how did me stating an opinion turn into, this is gay,this is lame, you’re an idiot, and all that”?…So I looked at some of your profiles,and now I understand…This site is full of little kids…Still in High school,or just starting college…SMH

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  • #375962
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    This is why the forums are dying man.

    People like 215philly215 coming on here wasting time, not making sense and making stupid A.ss posts.

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  • #376112
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    IndianaBasketball
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    When did having respect and showing good sportsmanship turn into something gay? LeBron is supposed to be the face of not just the NBA, but basketball in general… Of course people are going to notice an act of unsportsmanship like that. To say that someone is “on his nuts” for noticing that is silly. And what’s up with the gay references anyway?

    My high school coach used to always tell us that we had to watch what we did on/off the floor because little kids were watching. That’s even more the case with NBA stars. I always looked up to my dad growing up, not a public figure, but I had plenty of friends who didn’t have dads or important male figures in their lives. They looked up to athletes instead. What type of message is LeBron sending to little kids? What type of message did LeBron send to his competitors? It certaintly rubbed Dwight Howard the wrong way.

    In my opinion, it’s lame to stand on the sidelines and dance to rub regular season victories into your opponent’s faces. In my opinion, it’s lame to celebrate regular season victories, yet never win a championship.

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    • #376114
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      215philly215
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      Thank You,Thank You, Thank You!

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    • #376147
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      215philly215
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      Thank You,Thank You, Thank You!

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  • #376144
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    IndianaBasketball
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    When did having respect and showing good sportsmanship turn into something gay? LeBron is supposed to be the face of not just the NBA, but basketball in general… Of course people are going to notice an act of unsportsmanship like that. To say that someone is “on his nuts” for noticing that is silly. And what’s up with the gay references anyway?

    My high school coach used to always tell us that we had to watch what we did on/off the floor because little kids were watching. That’s even more the case with NBA stars. I always looked up to my dad growing up, not a public figure, but I had plenty of friends who didn’t have dads or important male figures in their lives. They looked up to athletes instead. What type of message is LeBron sending to little kids? What type of message did LeBron send to his competitors? It certaintly rubbed Dwight Howard the wrong way.

    In my opinion, it’s lame to stand on the sidelines and dance to rub regular season victories into your opponent’s faces. In my opinion, it’s lame to celebrate regular season victories, yet never win a championship.

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  • #376116
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    IndianaBasketball
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    It’s almost rhetorical to ask why anybody would notice *LeBron James* showing acts of unsportsmanship lol. I mean, seriously? The answer is obvious. This isn’t Brian Scalibrine we’re talking about here.

    When you’re the “best player” in the NBA and supposed to be the face of the league, you have responsibilities. Little kids, future NBA players, are looking at you and following your lead. The fans are also getting tired of egomaniac athletes who act like spoiled babies. It just looks bad on the game as a whole.

    While a lot of NBA greats and people in the basketball circle will acknowledge that LeBron is a special player, I think a lot of them are losing respect for him. I think they’re getting tired of his act. It’s no different when LeBron said the NBA should retire #23 because of MJ’s significance to the game, but then that he was switching to #6 lol. Did he have any idea who wore #6? How about Bill Russell? How about Julius Erving? Did they not have any significance to the game?

    LeBron is a great basketball player, but I have no respect for him.

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  • #376149
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    IndianaBasketball
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    It’s almost rhetorical to ask why anybody would notice *LeBron James* showing acts of unsportsmanship lol. I mean, seriously? The answer is obvious. This isn’t Brian Scalibrine we’re talking about here.

    When you’re the “best player” in the NBA and supposed to be the face of the league, you have responsibilities. Little kids, future NBA players, are looking at you and following your lead. The fans are also getting tired of egomaniac athletes who act like spoiled babies. It just looks bad on the game as a whole.

    While a lot of NBA greats and people in the basketball circle will acknowledge that LeBron is a special player, I think a lot of them are losing respect for him. I think they’re getting tired of his act. It’s no different when LeBron said the NBA should retire #23 because of MJ’s significance to the game, but then that he was switching to #6 lol. Did he have any idea who wore #6? How about Bill Russell? How about Julius Erving? Did they not have any significance to the game?

    LeBron is a great basketball player, but I have no respect for him.

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  • #376143
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    tezo, are you a lawyer? you made some great arguments out there… that’s why IMO ur the MVP in this site

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    tezo, are you a lawyer? you made some great arguments out there… that’s why IMO ur the MVP in this site

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  • #376146
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Naw, I just love ball and care about the game. You know how it is lol.

    I work with little heads at the YMCA (I have my own little team) and I know how much little kids look up to athletes. Nobody is perfect, but when you’re in a position like a LeBron, Kobe, etc… You have to set an example. Too many times, a lot of athletes don’t set good examples for kids who want to be just like them.

    I think that’s why I really like Durant. I’ve been telling a lot of the little kids to pay attention to him. He’s not all that charismatic, but I like what he stands for.

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  • #376179
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Naw, I just love ball and care about the game. You know how it is lol.

    I work with little heads at the YMCA (I have my own little team) and I know how much little kids look up to athletes. Nobody is perfect, but when you’re in a position like a LeBron, Kobe, etc… You have to set an example. Too many times, a lot of athletes don’t set good examples for kids who want to be just like them.

    I think that’s why I really like Durant. I’ve been telling a lot of the little kids to pay attention to him. He’s not all that charismatic, but I like what he stands for.

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  • #376148
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    Have you read what Durant said when being asked about that extension? He said, "It’s a no-brainer, really.." LOL… One of the things I admire about Kevin aside from his humble personality is that he always supports the NBA Draft… I haven’t seen him miss out on an NBA Draft so far… He’s there clapping hands and show supports to whoever is coming to his team… That to me is impressive..

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    Have you read what Durant said when being asked about that extension? He said, "It’s a no-brainer, really.." LOL… One of the things I admire about Kevin aside from his humble personality is that he always supports the NBA Draft… I haven’t seen him miss out on an NBA Draft so far… He’s there clapping hands and show supports to whoever is coming to his team… That to me is impressive..

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  • #376159
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    The thing that made me scratch my head on a LBJ quote (and I still can’t get it out of my head), was when he said he "spoiled the fans" with his play…That was quoted after that Game 5 beating they received from Boston. I thought that’s what great players do… spoil the fans… that they expect nothing but greatness and that he has to show up 100% every night… The people by the way had the right to boo his butt off because the way he played in that game was purely apathy… He never really got himself to at least try and make an effort to change the game…

    I myself got spoiled with  Jordan’s greatness… So spoiled was I that I expect them to win every game played… No less than a championship… and MJ NEVER disappoint during his dynasty… He always make sure that the fans get to see and make their money worth a whole lot more… Spoiling the fans is part of what makes a great player…

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    The thing that made me scratch my head on a LBJ quote (and I still can’t get it out of my head), was when he said he "spoiled the fans" with his play…That was quoted after that Game 5 beating they received from Boston. I thought that’s what great players do… spoil the fans… that they expect nothing but greatness and that he has to show up 100% every night… The people by the way had the right to boo his butt off because the way he played in that game was purely apathy… He never really got himself to at least try and make an effort to change the game…

    I myself got spoiled with  Jordan’s greatness… So spoiled was I that I expect them to win every game played… No less than a championship… and MJ NEVER disappoint during his dynasty… He always make sure that the fans get to see and make their money worth a whole lot more… Spoiling the fans is part of what makes a great player…

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  • #376467
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    billyk
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    Jordan was worth the price of admission… He was relentless..

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    billyk
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    Jordan was worth the price of admission… He was relentless..

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