Lebron James JUMPER

LMAO James will not average 30 he will average 25 Durant will not average 30 he will average 27.

James jumper does look better but he has to show me some consistency with it. KD is adding a lot to his game but I think Harden becomes the #2 option so Durant can save his legs for the stretch run.

He could, he certainly has the ability, but he still plays with Dwayne Wade and if he plays a similar role as he did last year taking a large role in distribution, I wouldn't count on it. I'd bet his numbers are right around what they were last season. Miami didn't add much offensive help, and they play such good D Lebron doesn't need to score 30+ for them to win.

I honestly dont have faith in his jumper or new found post game. I think LeBron James and Blake Griffin are highly over rated, they rely on athleticism more than pure skill. I personally feel Carmelo Anthony is better than LeBron James and Kevin Love is better than Blake Griffin but thats just my opinion

Lebron is by far one of the most skilled players in the entire league- ask anyone who actually watches basketball. Melo's game may look prettier to some people, but there is no denying the fact that Lebron shot a much better fg percentage (51%) last year than Melo (.461). The only category that Melo has an advantage on Lebron for his career is free-throw shooting percentage....

@CharlieSheen, yeah, you're probably right if they were to be matched up in a game of 2 Ball, lol. On a basketball court, playing the game of basketball, it's all about the total package and that athleticism is a part of that. Lebron and Griffin are better.

LeBron will always have better FG % than Melo, because he is a slasher and driver. Melo settles for more jumpers. LeBron probably will bring a better jumper and post game this year, but that's not my issue with him. I wanna see LeBron become a mover without the ball, run the floor more, and look to set up D.Wade and vice versa.

If LeBron does not have the ball in his hands...he is ineffective....he cant spot up, he cant post up, and he cant play with a true Point Guard. LeBron has the ball so much off course his number look better not to mention he's damn near unstoppable attacking the basket. But he lacks a killer instinct, he is not clutch at all. Not to mention Carmelo busses his a$$ when they play each other. Melo doesnt have these inflated stats because he's doesnt have the offense solely based on what he does. This year Melo will show all of you what the real deal is its Bully Season at the Garden wait and see

Lebron actually can post up. We don't know if he can play with a true 1 for a very simple reason. Lebron has been both clutch and horribly unclutch. Melo is a very good player, but he's a pure scorer. The only other thing he does in Lebron's class is rebound. All advanced defensive metrics have lebron as straight up elite defensively and Melo below par.

Lebron's is one of the best defenders in the league, also. Carmelo is maybe considered average.

"If LeBron does not have the ball in his hands...he is ineffective"

Again, not true. On the offensive end, Lebron is an alley-oop waiting to happen, plus he is a good cutter to the basket with speed that is unmatched by other forwards. He can post up anybody in the league because no one can match his strength and deny him postion down low. Because of the above, he is pretty much just as hard to guard when he doesn't have the ball in his hands. Name one good true point guard he has actually played with??? He may not be a Reggie Miller catch and shoot type guy, but how can you say that Lebron is ineffective without the ball in his hands?

@Da1pot

LeBron's dominated the basketball his whole life and has never really worked hard on playing without the ball. He's average in that department. When another player has the ball, he's usually just standing around watching.

And post game wise, LeBron is a disappointment. With his size, strength, athleticism and vision, he should've had a post game a long time ago. It's year 8 and he still has no post move or even go-to move. He's claimed to have worked on his post game all summer, but I've yet to see it in two games versus the Magic.

His mid-range game looks improved, but that's about it so far.

offensively Melo is way better than Lebron. Lebron is a better defender and passer. Knicks have point guards to pass and Chandler for defense. Miami has no big man on defense. They also have Mario Chalmers as a passer. I think whether you want Melo or Lebron is based on your team. I know Melo is clutch and Lebron has only been clutch a few times.

Lebron's number tend to be better because of his versatility and he has the ball so much. We saw how last year he was not good at playing without the ball. He just now started working on his post game.

In basketball every player has a role. There are tons of players who can do more than they have shown because their role dictated something else. Melo role is too score point and be clutch. He also has to take care of the ball and play defense on his man. Average defense is enough when Melo role of offense is more important because he tends to finish game well. He does not need to be so worn out from defense he can not finish games like he does. Basketball is still about scoring because Great offense beats good defense. They are only a few players who you could put in the consistent great defense category. Most like Lebron James play in spurts. That is why they lost to Dallas.

Personally I think they both have the ability to get to 30 ppg this year.. Even though lebron plays with wade.. he is just to good to be held back.. if anything playing with better teammates gives him more open looks.. Durant I could easily see making 30ppg.. just because he can flat out score... To say they can't doesn't give them the credit they deserve..

Why are you guys even arguing with that moron?

No chance LeBron averages 30 ppg. I think he'll average less than he had last season.

LeBron's post game has imrpoved (mainly his turnaround jumper), but it's still not where he wants it to be at. He doesn't have the ability to take over from there.

And his quickness still looks diminished from what I've seen. Most of his FGs so far this preseason have been from jumpers. He doesn't have that takeover ability he used to.

I still reckon LeBron has to lose some weight, he's bulked up a little too much in my opinion, and it's affecting his game. I almost feel although the rookie LeBron was more explosive then the current one.

Over 30ppg Lebron will either have to score a lot more in transition or be a ball hog.

Durant could score over 30 ppg but Harden will get a lot more touches this year and maybe Ibaka too.

To the guy who says Melo is better then LeBron:

While I believe Melo would beat LBJ one on one, in a 5 on 5 game it's not even close to how much better LBJ is.

Charlie Sheen, change your username, you're starting to act like that bum now.

And Melo does not have a better offensive game, but his offensive game is more skill-oriented, which is why you are saying that Melo is better offensivly than Lebron.

You can say Melo is more Offensivly SKILLED, cause he is, but to say that he is better than Lebron in anyother general catagory is poposterous.

The reason I say Melo is more skilled, is because look at his array of spin moves and the way he gets to the basket, or to his spot for his jumper, or theway he sort of manuvers himself in the post with the one-dribble hop stepback J.

In production and efficiency, Lebron's offensive game is better though. His game may be more linear, so to speak, in the sense that his game is not as conplicated as Melo's. Last year he settled for more jumpers, and will continue to do so if it is improved, but his game is essentially to race out in fast break and use his blinding speed and athleticism to get by you and above you. And in the half-court, he works on the perimeter, in iso sets, and looks to get to the paint. It's simple, he uses his speed, size, quickness, and strength and handles, to get to the hoop, or set himself up for a runner, or a touch shot from the middle of the paint. It may not be as glorious as Melo's technique, but it damn well works.

So while I would most likely take Lebron in a game of One-on-One, I would not rule Melo out because his fame is designed for those situations, and quite frankly could really give Lebron some trouble definsively because of his array of spin moves and fakes, and stepbacks.

People still fail to see the reason why Lebron is the best small forward in the nba right now. A small forward is a position of versatility. Lebron is versatile as you can get. He does more than just score, and Lebron still finds numerous ways to score.

And on the comment of losing explosiveness, Idk I think the guy has just changed his game. You can't be going flying dunking forever at the small forward position, look at the rest of them in the nba. He's learning better ways to score on a different level. Kobe Bryant is a perfect example, his jumpshot gets him everywhere pretty much now in days. Idk, I like the way his jumper looks this season.

Lebron isn't better offensively then Mello.

Yeah Lebron is obviously the better play maker he did run he Cavs offense w/out another legit scorer.

Meanwhile Mello played with Iverson and Billups half his career who both had the ball plenty in their hands and scored a lot as well.

Lebron is better overall with his defense, shot blocking and passing but not offensively minus the passing skills.

Mello has a better post up game, jumper and he's a better pure shooter too.

Last year in limited time with the Knicks he showed he can shoot the 3.

Just because a guy is more imposing physically and hard to keep from the basket doesn't mean he's better.

1 on 1 is when Mello shines.

People need to stop hyping up Lebron likes he's Magic or Jordan he's neither because he's not as clutch. All the dunks and crazy athletic plays to the rim are great for highlights but that doesn't win playoff games. Defensively he did give up 40 to Paul Pierce in Game 7 of 08 ECS. He couldn't stop Jason Terry in the clutch when it counted in the Finals or hit clutch shots in the 4th to turn the Finals around last season. Few games he played well w/out the ball with the Cavs doesn't mean he can do it consistently. 8th year and still not posting up with that size he's failed to expand his game on offense enough. I'm a Lebron fan but outside of the Orlando series in 09 he's had bad playoff performances in series that his team lost.

Better scorer may be Melo since he can score in so many different ways. But overall offensively Lebron is head and shoulders above Melo. He's one of the best passers in the league and creates alot of baskets with his passing, whereas Melo doesnt. Melo gets the ball and thinks score. Lebron will create shots just as often as he takes shots. Lebron is also arguably one of the best defenders of all time. He can guard 4 positions on the floor and Melo is weak at defense. Lebron > Melo

LeBron is a great team defender and he's gotten better defending on the ball, but one of the best of all time? I don't know about that...