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  • #48636
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    Lebron James is MVP for the fourth time in five years, and two years straight!

    He’ll join Michael Jordan, Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, and Wilt Chamberlain as the only other ones to have at least four.

    With that being said do you think he can catch Kareem and surpass his 6 MVP trophy’s?

    I think he can as at only 28 years of age Lebron is the youngest to win 4 MVP’s and he has gotten better each year over the past 3 years, which is scary as he is now about to enter his prime within the next year or two.

    Sky’s the limit for the BEST PLAYER IN THE WORLD.

    Congrats Lebron.

    http://espn.go.com/nba/playoffs/2013/story/_/id/9239537/2013-nba-playoffs-lebron-james-miami-heat-named-mvp-fourth

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  • #768448
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    i love me some lebron but sadly lebron can’t pass michael jordan as the GOAT. mj has won all 6 finals hes been in and Lebron’s prior failures like Finals against Dallas and the mysterious Celtics series before that will hurt him when we compare MJ and lebron. I don’t hold that Spurs final against him since it was amazing to make it to the finals with that team anyways but that Celtics series and Dallas series really hurts his resume compared to MJ. Of course his resume will probably be the 2nd best in the league history

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    • #768451
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      Lebron has 9-12 years left(maybe more or less depending on how badly he wants to assume himself as the GOAT and how he keeps away from injuries). People seem quick to forget Jordan had some of the same issues as Lebron. He didn’t even get a championship till he was 28 and required the help of others (Sound familiar? but of course Chris Bosh and Dwayne Wade and even Ray Allen at the moment are a bit better than the help that Jordan had). Now I don’t like Lebron and I agree it would take a lot for him to surpass the Great Michael Jordan (People who think lebron is GOAT seem to not know how incredible Jordan really was). But I don’t think it’s out of the question that Lebron can be the Greatest of all time, sure he had some early career playoff mistakes, but I don’t think it really hurts his legacy all that much.

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      • #768507
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        i’m just nitpicking. even if lebron wins 6 titles and matches micheal jordan on every accomplishment, Michael Jordan would have went 6/6 in the finals while Lebron would have went 6/8 with 1 disastrous finals. I really wanted to excuse Lebron for that finals against Dallas but that was just really unheard of for a player of his level. Has everyone already forgotten the level of criticism he got? Lebron James went for an average of 18 7 and 6. That was embarrassing for a player of his caliber. Now I think its borderline possible to match Jordan’s 6 rings but if that were the case, for me at least, Lebron’s Dallas final would be the deciding point in taking Jordan over Lebron. Of course Lebron could win like 7,8 rings to completely pass Jordan but that doesnt’ seem very likely

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  • #768446
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    6 MVP trophies are in sight. But, four is four and you can never take those away from him. Maybe the voters get tired of voting for him and give it to Durant or Westbrook or somebody. I think LeBron will get at least one more. He might get two. Three more (to break the record) could be tougher than it should be.

    I think only Kareem has only done 4 MVP awards in 5 years, so LeBron is in great company.

    If the Heat do end up winning the title this year on the heels of a 23 straight game win streak with 66 wins for the year, then I think LeBron moves up the charts even more. Back to back titles (and three straight Finals) and another Finals MVP trophy SHOULD move him into the Top 5 all time along with Michael Jordan, Wilt, Bill Russell, and Magic Johnson.

    I appreciate what Kareem did, but he caught the great centers when the other guy was over the hill (Wilt) or when he himself was over the hill (against David Robinson, Ewing, and Olajuwon). He only played a peak Bill Walton for a few years. And, he only has one title as THE MAN (in Milwaukee along with a veteran Big O).

    So that is my top five ever: Jordan, Wilt, Magic, Russell, and LeBron.

    Fans of Kareem and Bird can send me there thoughts.

    I actually think that LeBron can catch Michael Jordan as GOAT if he can win this year and then get a four-peat. Put two more Finals MVP trophies, lots of triple doubles, and another MVP award then I think LeBron will pass MJ.

    If LeBron stays on a roll until the next Olympics in Rio LeBron could have 4 titles, 4 Finals MVP awards, 6 MVP trophies, 3 Olympic gold medals, another scoring title perhaps, and maybe even a DPOY trophy. That would be hard to argue with.

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    • #768513
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  • #768461
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    Jordan is the GOAT, but that run from 1996-1998 really put him over the top. So his second act helped out a ton.

    Other than that, LeBron stacks up very well with Jordan’s first go-around (his first nine seasons).

    Jordan got his second title in 1992 with a Jordan at his physical peak Bulls team that ran through the league. I think that is where LeBron is right now.

    If LeBron can continue at this pace for the next five or so years then I think that he can DEFINITELY get to where Jordan is.

    I still think the key now will be FOUR STRAIGHT TITLES. Only Bill Russell has ever done that before.

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  • #768496
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    I’m Not a Kobe fan but its strange to see a thread like this without his name mentioned once.

    As far as top 5 players… I always liked the BigO. Oscar was probably the most complete player in NBA history… but I guess this thread is about individual achievement and accolades where he is sadly lacking compared to the names mentioned. Its a shame he still doesn’t recieve the recognition he so justly deserves. He was awesome and legendary.

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  • #768500
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Just the fact that Michael Jordan’s name came up in a thread of another player shows exactly how great LeBron is. Nobody is saying, “LeBron vs Kobe” or “LeBron vs KD/Melo” or even “LeBron vs Bird”

    LeBron is on another stratosphere, he’s in a place where the only other player he’s compared to is Michael Jordan, the GOAT.

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  • #768504
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    Congrats to LeBron, he joins a very elite group and has time to match or better Kareem’s record. We can speculate how many more MJ could/would have won if he had not had his mid career retirement, likewise Magic could well have added to his 3 MVP awards but for his health issues.

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