Lakers so called coasting
Why do Lakers fans say that it's normal for them to coast through the regular season?
2009-10 season record 57-25
2008-09 season record 65-17
2007-08 season record 29-9 (with Gasol)
Current they are 27-11
Records against +500 teams
2009-10 season 25-21
2008-09 season 28-11
2007-08 season 10-2 (with gasol)
Currently they are 5-5
Looking at all that it doesn't look like the Lakers "coasted" through the regular season at all. This mentality that the lakers can just do whatever in the regular season and flick a switch in the playoffs might just backfire on them. But they're also getting beat up with teams with losing records, aka Milwaukee and Indiana. Lakers fans say regular season means nothing or wait til the playoffs. BUT what if that switch is flicked and nothing happens? I don't see any other teams around the league saying the regular season means nothing. The Lakers have played +500 teams only 10 times out of 38 games!! and have a record of 27-11, they've had the easiest schedule to date and haven't had any gams where they've shown true ability as a team.
They grabbed the no.1 seed in the West in all 3 years. They have a .500 record away from home in the playoffs. and some teams that are going to be in the playoffs this year have shown they can ruffle teams feathers on the road. Do the Lakers have to change the rotation or even make a trade, or just ride the stom out and hope it all proves to be nothing?
I know 29 of the Lakers last 48 games are against winning teams, which is crazy hard, so figuring in their 5-5 record against .500+ teams (and they haven't beaten any of the elites yet) and the assumption that as an older team their record won't skyrocket as the year goes on, it looks like they'll finish with something like 53 wins rather than the 58 they're on pace for.
Because they do coast. Watch there games and you can see it. They could win more games then they do but they dont always give MAX effort
For me the problem for the Lakers is concentration and motivation. They at times seem to froget that they hold very strong post play with Bynum, Gasol, and Odom. Sometimes Kobe seems to take to much on his shoulders when he has the help he needs. They also at time seem more worried if they lose a few games. When they played the Grizz they seemed to just think it would be a cakewalk and when Memphis put up a fight Lakers didnt respond by doing what makes them good.
I think they will be fine and win between 52-56 games. Probably good for 2nd or 3rd seed on the west.
Umm, LAL has been without their true 3rd option and defensive anchor. LA isn't coasting, they just weren't playing very good ball. Gasol while probaly the best offensive enterin the game, is just not able to play the position consistently. He was having to play 40+ minutes per, that takes a lot out of a guy like Pau who doesn't like physical play and should be around 35minutes. Those extra minutes and extra work load sans Bynum put a hurting on Pau, therefore making him look very scrub like. Lamar had to be moved to the starting lineup where he is a liability because teams with physial strong 4's like Z-Bo take it straight at him. Add in the fact that Kobe is having more trouble creating for others nd their is absolutely no one else on the roster who can do it consistently. LaL has yet to be at full strength. Though, just getting Bynum has proved to tighten our D up and has made Pau's games much easier for him. Talk to me come June when LAL is holding up yet ANOTHER title.
Big Laker fan here and come on you know as well as i do that the Lakers do coast sometimes. They do not always play as hard or to the best of there abilities. They do once the playoffs start but in the regular season they dont always bring there A game as far as effort
It truely truely amazes me that Lake show has any credibility on this site.
Yea, the Lakers dont try. They would prefer to lose, actually. Kobe is an assassin that hates losing. Gasol is one of the best foreign players in the league. These guys dont coast. The Lakers, this year, just frankly arent as good as before. They are getting old and tired, that is obvious.
I whole-heartedly agree they coast, but they were genuinely just a bad team during this stretch. All above factors I listed are why they hadn't been able to just turn it on against some of the inferior talent. That's all I was trying to convey. That now that we have our defensive anchor, the coasting will start coming out with better results. LAL can get away with coasting so long as they stay healthy.
Kobe always plays all out but the rest of the team doesn't its funny you say that because Phil Jackson,Steve Smith, Kenny Smitth all said the same thing that the Lakers tend to coast during the regular season.
I guess they have zero any credibility as well. Actually even Kobe has mentioned it a couple of times. Interesting i know
And if you think other fans don't think so as well google " Lakers Coast" and see if i just happened to be the only person in the world that thinks this. you're negitive points tells me about what people think of you're Cred
Interesting the Lakers have 11 losses in early January but usually only lose 15-20 all year, still have the toughest part of there schedule ahead of them and most impressive win is at home vs Chicago with no Boozer.
What would make me think, coasting or not, this team is a contender? riddle me that?
lake show, i could careless about negative points. All that means is that i am tough on everyone who thinks Kevin Love is a basketball messiah and that Rajon Rondo is the best player of alltime. I could careless. You are an idiot. I dont care if you 3 trillion points. You are a bonafide moron.
This is regular season not playoffs. Who cares how many they lose in the regular season. They come ready when the playoffs start and thats all that matters. Last year they lost games that they didnt lose in the previous years and did things that there previous championship teams didn't do. what was the result of that??.....oh yeah another NBA CHAMPIONSHIP
No that means most people don't respect you're opinion about basketball. You don't have to care about it but thats reality. I'm hard on most players and teams as well and BTPH is harder then anyone and says many things people dont agree with but they respect his opinion.
Wait why am i even debating with a guy who puts up pictures of a highschooler as there profile pic. I'm out. lol
"Never argue with fools cuz people for a distance can't tell who is who"
Thats because you guys have like 8 million posts and 53 thousand accounts.
Congratulations. You let espn jew you out of 10 dollars a month or some bs so you can post insider stories and get +45. Again, irrelevant anyhow.
The Lakers havent beaten an elite team this year. That was not the same the past 2 seasons, so again, you have no point.
I think your last post pretty much sums you up.
You are a moron. Have fun "playing against Kyle Korver in summer leagues" and all the other uber-cool things you do. Youve pretty much accounted for half my negative points with your ignorance anyway. Im glad some 13 year olds who spend most of there time beating off to &$#%#&@!o think you are a legend. I think you are stupid.
Urban, it seems you don't watch LA consitently. They do tend to coast, but like I have agreed they've played bad so far, but they have gotten Bynomite back, and are starting to get some mojo back. While yes they have a tough schedule from here on out, that's also gonna get them going even harder. Pau Gasol and Ron Ron are the type of guys who do better going against tougher competition. Gasol needs to realize he's in a situation where he has to bring the physicality and intensity as he's not naturally like that. Ron is a different story as he even admitted last year to not bringing it on d against the weaker opponents, and that he needed a challenge. Point is, they do coast, not for lack of winning desire, but for an arrogance that they are good enough to just turn it on when they want. Lately they've had a crash to reality that they seem to have been humbled by and are now back on track.
igua- My point is that this team is Worse than previous years. Coasting is opinionative. It depends on how much you truely believe a team isnt playing as hard or as good as they can. My point is, if coasting is nothing new to the Lakers, then they are worse, simply because usually they coast, still show up for the big games and still end up with 55-65 wins. This seasons, they have lost more than usual, and marquee games such as no showing XMAS day vs Miami is not something this team usually does.
i feel what youre saying urbanovreeverything... laker fans are ignorant. ive said it before. they are unable to form any opinion without the bias or ignorance that comes with being a laker fan. id say the only laker fan i can think of off the top of my head that isnt SUPER biased would be llperez. all the other laker fans that arent biased, forgive me. i just dont remember your names. and yes the lake show doesnt know what hes talking about. i know that the points system is imperfect, but when you have 8000 posts and 1000 points to show for it, you dont know what youre talking about. that means that there were enough people who disagreed with what you said enough to want to take the time out to give you a negative point. something that has happened to him more than enough times.
sacphil- thanks and you pretty much summed it up.
llperez is a very good poster who seems to not be bias.
And yes, lake show is laughable in bragging that in 1 out of every 8 posts, he gets plus 1, as if thats super impressive. I could careless about the point system. I am going to state my facts and if people disagree and want to thumbs down me, so be it. This clown as been parading around as if he somes kind of internet legend when he hasnt came up with a flawless argument yet.
Dude, have you read a single post. I clearly said that they had been playing worse, but when you miss your 7ft interior defensive player that is to be expected. They've got back into it the past few games. And atually, the Lakers usually tend to lose on Christmas day since Shaq left. The've won I think like 2. plus, LAL looked just as terrible the month or so prior to playoffs last year. Looking like they were disheartened, and just a year slower. I expect with the new defensive scheme, Gasol having less of a work load and Lamar moving back to the bench with the killer b's,more comfort in the offense from Blake, and more minutes/rhythm from Artest I anticipate a better second half of the year.
Funny that LAL is playing the worst they possibly could, so it can only go uphill from here, barring injuries.
I hate Gasol's whining about physical play, although I've never seen him say something explicit. You're a back to the basket player. Do you want them to just not check you? Things are going to happen when you turn to the basket at close range.
the lakers are playing better as of late. I think the negative criticism might have gotten to them. Bynum is reminding everyone how valuable he can be when healthy right now.
Bynum has been the force defensively. It's no coincidence that pre Bynum they were having trouble holding teams like Milwaukee, Bynum comes back and suddenly were holding the best offensive team in the L to 20+ below their season average. Bynum's defensive motor doesn't stop downlow, it's when he has to get out and start being mobile that he begins to lag. The new Laker defensive scheme is to funnel baseline, and if they get to the middle they're throwing Pau at them first and if they can get past them they still have Bynum to deal with. Similar tothe defensive scheme the Spurs ran with David and Timmy. Byunum has been a shotblocking force, and has altered or intimidated on several others.