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  • #55340
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    Jeffreyharden
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    I just read the article on ESPN about the Lakers going back to past to hire a coach and 1 name stuck out to me and 1 quote stuck out to me. I saw that they mentioned Byron Scott and he is a member of the past Lakers teams and he played with Kobe during his rookie year and still is cool with Kobe. I also saw that when he got fired from the Cav’s Kyrie Irving say " I have to get over the loss of my basketball father". What if Kyrie doesn’t sign the max deal from the Cav’s and wait until 2015 to become an unrestricted free agent the Lakers only have kobe’s 25 million on the board that year and the rookie from this year who I think they should pray Dante Exum falls to them. Exum could be groomed to be a combo guard behind Kobe and Steve Nash and with Nash’s history he sure will get a lot of time. So Kyrie can sign the 4year 60million dollar deal with the Lakers to reunite with Bryon Scott and also become the co-man in LA, with Kevin Love. Kevin Love can sign a 4year 88million dollar deal with the Lakers. That’s about 66million for 4 guys so the Lakers would look for ring chasing vets and cheap young prospects to fill out the roster and the next year they would have Kobe’s contract off the board and cash to fill out the roster with a Big 3 of

    Kyrie Irving(24years old)    Dante Exum(20years old)    Kevin Love(27years old)

     

     all they would have to do is for the next 5-7 years fill the team with defensive players and 1 or 2 bench scorers and they would be the next Lakers dynasty. 

     

     

      

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  • #899083
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    terrancebower
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    I don’t think you build around a small PG who shoots bad percentages, is a below average distributor for a starting PG and sucks at defense. I’m not Irving’s biggest fan. I like Love, but he’s also a bad defender and I don’t think both of your best players can be bad individual defenders if you want to succeed or compete for a chip.

    If I’m the lakers I would rather try to scoop up Bledsoe than Irving (no matter what the Suns GM says, I think for the right price he would be available, how long are they going to start two guys who are under 6’3”?).

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    I don’t think you build around a small PG who shoots bad percentages, is a below average distributor for a starting PG and sucks at defense. I’m not Irving’s biggest fan. I like Love, but he’s also a bad defender and I don’t think both of your best players can be bad individual defenders if you want to succeed or compete for a chip.

    If I’m the lakers I would rather try to scoop up Bledsoe than Irving (no matter what the Suns GM says, I think for the right price he would be available, how long are they going to start two guys who are under 6’3”?).

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    • #899097
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      I’m sorry, but your explanation doesn’t make any sense…  Excluding this year Kyrie has shot the ball pretty well…  Below average distributor?  I would say he’s average, but his team isn’t able to convert those assists either…  

      Bledsoe instead of Irving??  Are you serious?  Am I missing something?  Everyone on the Suns had a career year.  Do you think that’s the system or the gatorade there?  Wait, don’t answer that….

       

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    • #898982
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      tuck243
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      I’m sorry, but your explanation doesn’t make any sense…  Excluding this year Kyrie has shot the ball pretty well…  Below average distributor?  I would say he’s average, but his team isn’t able to convert those assists either…  

      Bledsoe instead of Irving??  Are you serious?  Am I missing something?  Everyone on the Suns had a career year.  Do you think that’s the system or the gatorade there?  Wait, don’t answer that….

       

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  • #899087
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    if i was them, i’d try for bledsoe and monroe this offseason.  bledsoe can play both guard positions and works well with either big pg (smart, exum).  monroe can play center which opens up the option to draft a julius randle or vonleh.  or if kobe has a couple more years, go aaron gordon as that lamar odom type "fill the stat sheet" guy.

    i honestly think if the lakers don’t end up in the top 4, they should move the picks to phoenix or chicago for 2 mid 1st round picks (if possible).  lakers have a lot of needs and good players with cheap contracts (through the draft) will allow for more flexibility in free agency.

     

     

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  • #898972
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    if i was them, i’d try for bledsoe and monroe this offseason.  bledsoe can play both guard positions and works well with either big pg (smart, exum).  monroe can play center which opens up the option to draft a julius randle or vonleh.  or if kobe has a couple more years, go aaron gordon as that lamar odom type "fill the stat sheet" guy.

    i honestly think if the lakers don’t end up in the top 4, they should move the picks to phoenix or chicago for 2 mid 1st round picks (if possible).  lakers have a lot of needs and good players with cheap contracts (through the draft) will allow for more flexibility in free agency.

     

     

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  • #899091
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    arambone
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     I think you guys could get Rondo in a trade for your pick after the Celtics draft a PG. Exum won’t be there unless Lakers get a top 3 pick.

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  • #898976
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    arambone
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     I think you guys could get Rondo in a trade for your pick after the Celtics draft a PG. Exum won’t be there unless Lakers get a top 3 pick.

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    • #899099
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      Hector_Reyes_8
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      If they get a top 3 pick they get whoever is left from the consensus top 3 – Embiid, Wiggins, and Parker.

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    • #898984
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      Hector_Reyes_8
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      If they get a top 3 pick they get whoever is left from the consensus top 3 – Embiid, Wiggins, and Parker.

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  • #899105
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    Moon River
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    The Lakers and Celts will be drafting in the top 3.

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    Moon River
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    The Lakers and Celts will be drafting in the top 3.

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    • #899207
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      tuck243
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      The NBA wouldn’t be able to live that down…

      But I wouldn’t be surprised one bit… Johnny Manziel could’ve been on the Cowboys last night… It was primed for that… LOL

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    • #899321
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      tuck243
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      The NBA wouldn’t be able to live that down…

      But I wouldn’t be surprised one bit… Johnny Manziel could’ve been on the Cowboys last night… It was primed for that… LOL

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  • #899117
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    Magic Jordan
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     I will pass on giving our lottery pick up for Rondo.  Out of all the injury prone PG’s mentioned in this post my order of preference would be, Irving, Bledsoe and a little further down the list Rondo.  Partly because I would hate to give anything to the Celtics and the other part because he has been relatively underpaid, so he is going to command a lot of money and was boarder line bad since returning from his knee injury.

    People need to stop with the Monroe talk, it’s like they don’t realize that making a play for Monroe eliminates the chances of signing K Love next year.  That should be the Lakers number 1 priority.  Look, Monroe is a good player, but he is a 2nd or 3rd option at best.  Lakers need to secure their next number 1 option before they start looking for their 2nd and 3rd options.  

    Laker fans (Kobe Fans) will be clamoring for the Lakers to turn it around in one off season but this just isn’t a viable option.  Patience will be the quickest way back to contention.  Keep their pick unless it falls to 7 or 8.  If Smart is available take Smart, if Exum is available take Exum, if Randle is available take Randle etc.  They need to be in best player available mode.

    I am also under the belief that Kyrie will hit unrestricted free agency setting the precedence for young players under the new CBA.  More will follow suit.  Byron Scott has not proven to be a successful coach.  He gets along with players but that is only half of the battle.  He isn’t terrible by any means but I think they need to do better.  They especially need to win the headlines with the next coaching hire to get the fans back to believing they can be a well run franchise.  Byron Scott is a hire similar to Dantoni or Mike Brown, it just won’t produce results.  I don’t care what Kobe wants.  Make the best hire for the future.  Kevin Ollie should be their number one option if only for the fact that it will be huge news, the Lakers will be on the front page again and the fans will probably be a little more patient with such a young promising coach.  Fans will be asking for Byron Scotts head Ned Stark style as soon as they see him coach on their sidelines. The days of doing things to appease Kobe should be done.  If he wants a legtimate chance at that 6th ring he himself needs to practice patience and not try to force knee jerk reactions.  If everything works out maybe he has a legitimate chance to contend one last time after his extension ends if he is willing to sign on the cheap.  I just don’t see it happening while he is making 25 mil.

     

     

     

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  • #899002
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    Magic Jordan
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     I will pass on giving our lottery pick up for Rondo.  Out of all the injury prone PG’s mentioned in this post my order of preference would be, Irving, Bledsoe and a little further down the list Rondo.  Partly because I would hate to give anything to the Celtics and the other part because he has been relatively underpaid, so he is going to command a lot of money and was boarder line bad since returning from his knee injury.

    People need to stop with the Monroe talk, it’s like they don’t realize that making a play for Monroe eliminates the chances of signing K Love next year.  That should be the Lakers number 1 priority.  Look, Monroe is a good player, but he is a 2nd or 3rd option at best.  Lakers need to secure their next number 1 option before they start looking for their 2nd and 3rd options.  

    Laker fans (Kobe Fans) will be clamoring for the Lakers to turn it around in one off season but this just isn’t a viable option.  Patience will be the quickest way back to contention.  Keep their pick unless it falls to 7 or 8.  If Smart is available take Smart, if Exum is available take Exum, if Randle is available take Randle etc.  They need to be in best player available mode.

    I am also under the belief that Kyrie will hit unrestricted free agency setting the precedence for young players under the new CBA.  More will follow suit.  Byron Scott has not proven to be a successful coach.  He gets along with players but that is only half of the battle.  He isn’t terrible by any means but I think they need to do better.  They especially need to win the headlines with the next coaching hire to get the fans back to believing they can be a well run franchise.  Byron Scott is a hire similar to Dantoni or Mike Brown, it just won’t produce results.  I don’t care what Kobe wants.  Make the best hire for the future.  Kevin Ollie should be their number one option if only for the fact that it will be huge news, the Lakers will be on the front page again and the fans will probably be a little more patient with such a young promising coach.  Fans will be asking for Byron Scotts head Ned Stark style as soon as they see him coach on their sidelines. The days of doing things to appease Kobe should be done.  If he wants a legtimate chance at that 6th ring he himself needs to practice patience and not try to force knee jerk reactions.  If everything works out maybe he has a legitimate chance to contend one last time after his extension ends if he is willing to sign on the cheap.  I just don’t see it happening while he is making 25 mil.

     

     

     

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    • #899134
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      Mopgrass
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      I’ve heard people say they should get Byron Scott because it will help them get Kyrie Irving or that they should get Kevin Ollie so they can get Durant (who leaves a constant contender?). Isn’t hiring a coach to get one player a little silly… especially if they never get that player?

      Obviously, both are good coaches as is. I honestly don’t know who the right jump-start coach is, but it is nice to dangle the idea of choosing your own coach to free agents… well, if any of the best free agents were really jumping teams (doubt it).

      Frankly, the Lakers should have one more awful season so they don’t have to give up their 2015 draft pick to Phoenix (top 5 protected). Then they could develop players for a little while.

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      • #899150
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        Jeffreyharden
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        Byron Scott being able to get Kyrie is one part of the story, people tend to for get that Coach Scott did help take the Nets to back to back finals and took Chris Paul and the Hornets to game 7 of the 2nd round of the playoffs to the Spurs. He is still a very good coach with or without Kyrie Irving.

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      • #899264
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        Jeffreyharden
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        Byron Scott being able to get Kyrie is one part of the story, people tend to for get that Coach Scott did help take the Nets to back to back finals and took Chris Paul and the Hornets to game 7 of the 2nd round of the playoffs to the Spurs. He is still a very good coach with or without Kyrie Irving.

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      • #899368
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        Magic Jordan
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        I agree with everything you say except for the "Who leaves a constant contender part"  Let’s not get it twisted here.  The Thunder are constant contenders because Kevin Durant.  Ownership has proven to be extremely cheap, attempts to avoid the tax at all costs and you simply cannot build a dynasty that way.

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      • #899255
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        Magic Jordan
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        I agree with everything you say except for the "Who leaves a constant contender part"  Let’s not get it twisted here.  The Thunder are constant contenders because Kevin Durant.  Ownership has proven to be extremely cheap, attempts to avoid the tax at all costs and you simply cannot build a dynasty that way.

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    • #899248
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      Mopgrass
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      I’ve heard people say they should get Byron Scott because it will help them get Kyrie Irving or that they should get Kevin Ollie so they can get Durant (who leaves a constant contender?). Isn’t hiring a coach to get one player a little silly… especially if they never get that player?

      Obviously, both are good coaches as is. I honestly don’t know who the right jump-start coach is, but it is nice to dangle the idea of choosing your own coach to free agents… well, if any of the best free agents were really jumping teams (doubt it).

      Frankly, the Lakers should have one more awful season so they don’t have to give up their 2015 draft pick to Phoenix (top 5 protected). Then they could develop players for a little while.

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  • #899108
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    mollyladnerqctrozwsk
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    People need to stop with the Monroe talk, it’s like they don’t realize that making a play for Monroe eliminates the chances of signing K Love next year. That should be the Lakers number 1 priority. Look, Monroe is a good player, but he is a 2nd or 3rd option at best. Lakers need to secure their next number 1 option before they start looking for their 2nd and 3rd options. 

     

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    • #899209
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      tuck243
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      overrated… No way he’s a max player…

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    • #899323
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      tuck243
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      overrated… No way he’s a max player…

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  • #899222
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    mollyladnerqctrozwsk
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    People need to stop with the Monroe talk, it’s like they don’t realize that making a play for Monroe eliminates the chances of signing K Love next year. That should be the Lakers number 1 priority. Look, Monroe is a good player, but he is a 2nd or 3rd option at best. Lakers need to secure their next number 1 option before they start looking for their 2nd and 3rd options. 

     

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  • #899180
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    Ahkasi Clay
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     Bernie Bickerstaff has he highest winning percentge of any laker coach!

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    Ahkasi Clay
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     Bernie Bickerstaff has he highest winning percentge of any laker coach!

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