[hubhubParticipant]

 Please give me the explanation why the number one pick plays 28minutes per game. He’s over 50% from the floor, over 40% from the 3point line while averaging 17,6 ppg and and 4,8apg. Are they going for the championship this year? I cant find the explanation while Byron Scott is sitting Kyrie 20min on the bench.  The next thing is Tristan Thompson getting 18mpg. His stats per36 minutes are : 15.8ppg, 9,8rpg and 2,1bpg. Why can Byron Scott put him in the starting lineup over Jamison who played from the bench in his career and is a smart I dont think he would have a problem with that. 

I think that Byron Scott is a good, proven in this league coach. But I’m starting thinking that maybe he isnt the best coach for Cleveland right now. I think they should play with their young guys, even struggle throughout the whole year but they would get a top 5 pick so they could have draft Drummon, Barnes, Davis whoever they want. Just think what this team would be in 2-3 years with a core of Irving, Drummond and Thompson. I’m afraid that with Byron Scott they are going nowhere further than being a team playing every year just to get to the playoffs.

[providencefriars1Participant]

Getting playoff experience is unbelievably beneficial for a young team. You cant make a run for a championship or rebuild a franchise if your young players never experience a playoff game. Even losing in 4 games to the Bulls would help the Cavs.

[Anton123Participant]

 I think Byron Scott and the team might be sick of losing and are just trying to play the most effective available backetball. Irving shares the PG spot with Sessions who is a very capable basketball player, Thompson has Jamison in front of him and Jamison is obviously better right now.

I think Cleveland isn’t rich enough to afford to tank a season, they probably need money and for that they need to play basketball that will sell at least some tickets.

Also both Irving and Thompson are getting more than 28 and 18 mpg now, Irving is playing around 31, Thompson around 20. It’s just that the mpg average accounts for what they were getting at the very start of the season.

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

 They aren’t winnin a championship this year so why run your players to death and risk injury?  It is an extremely long season so make sure they can play the whole season.  You let them play and get experience but not kill them.  They will be better next year for it..  It will be a normal season and a full training camp.  This season is bad for players in the NBA.

[aamir543Participant]

If Kyrie plays 40 minutes a game and averages 24 ppg, for one that adds alot more uneccesary hype, and people will have unreal expectations, and two, they realized that after the past couple games, that tanking is in their best interest. Imagine another top 5 player with those two. They seems to be headed in the Minesota or OKC direction, stockpiling young talent, and a couple stars in OKC’s case.

28 MPG is a bit low, I hope he gets around 33 per game by season’s end, but his stats are really really good.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

They won’t get into the playoffs, so you have nothing to worry about.

 

[HadzialijagicParticipant]

he should get more but you also seem to forget that Ramon Sessions the other poin guard might be the next best player on his team. Ramon Session neeeds to be traded the team has other weaknesses and Ramon deserves to start on a team.

[andyV17Participant]

If the extra min given to sessions can net us a first round pick I think thats more valuable than 6 more mins for Irving

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

When he was a very good college player last year he was only averaging 27.5 MPG for Duke.

People are too quick to throw excessive PT at rookies. Keep in mind that the NBA season (even one shortened to 66 games) is much longer than any season they have ever played before, and that grind takes time to get used to. If the Cavs decided to ride Irving for 35-38 MPG he’s be more likely to hit the rookie wall earlier. Hopefully keeping his minutes at a reasonable amount will enable him to play well the entire season instead of slowing down while still impacting the game.

[hubhubParticipant]

 I wouldnt say nothing if he would get consistent 33-36 minutes, but when I see him scoring 32 a good % and playing only 31 minutes I dont know whats going on. They can go in the OKC direction or the Timberwolves but they need a bad season and a high draft pick. 

Even if they will lose I think that people will come to see Kyrie so think thats not an big issue.

I know that playoff experience is invaluable but they are not in a hurry. I will get that expierence but they need an another player to build around.

Remember when Lebron came? Imagine were the Cleveland Cavaliers would have been now is they would struggle for one year more a got not the 10 pick but the 1pick and Dwight Howard? I dont want this scenario to happen again.

[hubhubParticipant]

 I know that Sessions is a nice player and there is not probably enough minutes for him and Kyrie so I would also think about trading him. He has some, he would probably be a better fit to the Jazz than Harris is. Maybe thats an idea.

[surveParticipant]

well said….and I dont see why its so hard to understand why they are not playing 40mpg.  its so easy to see what Scott is doing here.  there was a thread about this last week.  I mentioned there that Irving is coming off of a serious injury and was previously out of shape, then you had the lockout.  also its in the Cavs best interest to showcase Sessions for potential suitors….the guy can ball…..the NYKs sure could use him.   as previously mentioned…they are playing a couple minutes more here recently but there just is no point in trying to run these young guys into the ground.  even though the Cavs are not a good team, its still a way of bringing them along "slowly" if you will.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Well, they are playing a ridiculous amount of games in a short amount of time this year, maybe Byron Scott doesn’t wanna run his rookies into the ground. 

I guess the coach is getting the Cavs to play as a TEAM and allow Kyrie Irving to develop naturally.  They could use another great lottery pick so I don’t think getting destroyed in the front line (possibly by LeBron and Company no less) would help anyone. 

The Thunder with Durant stunk for a few years but got enough players to compete such as adding Westbrook, Harden, and Ibaka.  That should be the same goal for the Cavs. 

[Mr. 19134Participant]

 Don’t even talk to me about MPG because I’m still p!ssed Turner is only getting 26 MPG and when he does come in he comes in wit Lou Williams so he don’t get many shot attempts.

But last night I showed up late to the Bobcats game and the only tickets they "suppossedly" had left were 20 rows from the court so I pay 80 dollars a ticket just to see Turner play 20 minutes and take 4 shot attempts in a blow out of the Bobcats who didn’t have a chance.  The Sixers were up by atleast 20 most of the game and Collins was still playing Meeks and Lou even tho they only have value when we’re trailing.  

But The Cavs have Ramon Sessions and Boobie Gibson so 28 mpg is a perfect amount for right now for a rookie.  Who needs more PT on that team is TT.

[jaysmith1987Participant]

I think its good that they play limited mins. For one it keeps them in the mindset that there still fighting for playing time and keep them working hard. Second of all cleveland is not a place most top prospects want to play so there gonna have to build like other small market teams through the draft. They should learn from there last mistakes with lebron and minnesota with kg. Trading draft picks for veterans past there prime will not give you a championship it will only leave you with less talent. This draft is supposed to be loaded depending on who declares i think they can find either there sg sf or center in this draft so they have no incentive to make the playoffs because if they make it this year with the limited talent they have whats the likely hood they make it again. Its obvious Irving is gonna be a great player and thompson is gonna be good as well but they need more pieces and this draft has that.

[RafterParticipant]

Irving is playing the third most for the Cavs, Scott likes to rotate this team which makes sense considering the talent.

I’m not really concerned with regards to Irving’s mpg because he’s still playing in the forth quarter, as mentioned, this is a punishing season and this rotation is very effective because you’ve got fresher legs on the floor and more energy which will be more effective against more tired opponents.

Also giving Irving 40mpg wouldn’t be good from a physical standpoint, he’s bound to pick injuries or more terribly,  a recurrance of that toe injury he sustained at Duke. Scott has been very smart with Irving, he’s being groomed as the Cavs’ future centerpiece, he’s being protected from the hype and is quietly going about his business, and he’s learning nothing is ever given to him. When Irving looks back on what will surely be glittering career, he’ll remember how much Byron Scott aided his development.

[BigDParticipant]

Well if you had actually bothered to look up Byron Scott’s explanation for Irving’s minutes, it’s because of his subpar defense and his extremely high turnover rate, Sessions is a much better defender and doesn’t turn the ball over much at all, so it’s about a learning curve for Irving. As for Tristan Thompson, he isn’t ready to get a whole lot of minutes yet, he makes a few too many mistakes on the floor, so easing him into it is a much better approach, he’ll be a very good player, but he isn’t ready for the big minutes yet.

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