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Knicks fans Rejoice!!!

As a knick fan, I think we need to relax. With 18-20 Mil on the cap in 2010, we could explore many things. I think as a fan, we need to slow down with LBJ in 2010. I think Donnie Walsh will be smart and look at both 2010 (Lebron,Wade,Bosh,Stoudemire) and 2011 (Durant, Melo, Paul,Williams) Free Agent classes to pluck from. The last time the Knicks had this much cap space (1994), the knicks got the 2 best players in the FA (Houston, Chris Childs). I know those names aren't good now, but they were then. I think as a Knick fan, we need to add some more role players 1st.

To end this, I think the 8th pick should be traded to Portland for 24th, 33rd and 38rd pick and try to add more players.

I think in 2010, we will add a big contract.

If we dont get LBJ in 2010, we will go 100% hard on KD and Melo in 2011

your views?


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WTF!!!

I was expecting some breaking news???

No way do I move the 8th for those picks. If they took Jeffries I might consider it though.

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well no, sorry no breaking

well no, sorry no breaking news...but if you look at other Knicks post, we continue to act as if we cannot improve so i brought my opinion into the fold to calm the knicks fan down

also, the Blazers want Curry and if he's there at 8, the Knicks can pick him up and trade to add picks, we dont have a 2010 1st rounder....

Honestly, I think i rather have Victor Claver or Wayne Ellington (24th), DeJuan Summers (33rd) and Jeff Pendergraph at 38 then just Curry at 8.

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what? we have a chance to

what? we have a chance to get an impact player and you wanna trade down? if anything i wanna trade up.

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No way man, this draft is

No way man, this draft is not that good. Unless Memphis cuts us a deal with Rubio, i wanna move down and add 3 picks and Sergio Rodriguez.

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about Knicks and Summers, Mills

Summers should go around 25-30.....Patty Mills might be one of the surprises this draft.....going around 15-20....he's been gettin some good reviews....

as for the Knicks, here is what the Knicks lineup in 2010 will most likely look like:

*David Lee / (S) Courtney Sims / (S) Hamed Haddadi
*Amare Stoudemire / Jared Jeffries / Danilo Gallinari
*DerMar Derozen / Wilson Chandler / Darius Miles
*Dwayne Wade / Xavier Henry / Quentin Richardson
*Steve Nash / Carlos Cabezas / (S)Speedy Claxton

* = starter, (S) = not in 12 man squad

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I heard Mills is not being

I heard Mills is not being looked at by GM's as a starting PG and will fall in round 2.

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I thought the Knicks traded

I thought the Knicks traded up or something lol...well nevermind

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Get proven young players or guys in their prime

As a New Yorker, I prefer the Knicks pursue a proven young star that is in or soon to be in his prime. I like players like Lebron, Paul, Williams or Durant.

Although he was unstoppable several years ago, Steve Nash is gradually getting over the hill. Amare Stoudemire injuries worry me. Chris Bosh is slightly overrated. Kobe is my favorite player and even if he was available I wouldn't pursue him.

The Knicks and all high market teams in sports (think Yankees) always sign former all-stars to huge contracts that are close or way over their peaks. They need to get guys that are just getting into their prime.

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Mills

Mills will be a back-up.....the Mavs might take him at 22.....Philly might take a chance on him at 17.....yea for sure GM's arent lookin at Mills to be a starter.....actually most of the PG's in this year's first round are not gonna be starting PG's.....theyll be backups......prolly Curry and Rubio and mayb Jennings will be the only 3 that will become starters in their respective teams

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Yea i hear you about Mills,

Yea i hear you about Mills, but most scouts see him as a Backup at best...its on this site....

I agree MB, we need to start adding younger players...

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hahaha

Amare gets poked in the eye and then all of a sudden, everyone is questioning how good he is...... Amare will be bac to form nex season......so you don't like Wade? leadin scorer in the regular season....i think Wade and Amare are perfect......as for Nash, yea he is over the hill.....but he is still a decent point.....will be for atleast another 5 years.....and with Cabezas backin him up, its all good....

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"as for Nash, yea he is over

"as for Nash, yea he is over the hill.....but he is still a decent point.....will be for atleast another 5 years"

lol I laughed so hard I think I peed a little

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I agree w/ MB 100%.

I agree w/ MB 100%. Knicksboy is also on point too. Walsh is smart (I wish we still had him w/ the Pacers) & I can guarantee you that he's not putting all of his eggs in one basket.

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tezo83...i dunno if you kno

tezo83...i dunno if you kno if you can... but can you tell us some good moves Walsh made with the Pacers?

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The Knicks supposedly love

The Knicks supposedly love McClinton and he may be a solid player. We dont need to trade #8 to get more picks because we can buy them. I agree that we need a star because very few teams are successful without a big star. I just hope we can grab Jennings at 8 and maybe sneak back in to take Clark. Jennings is a risk but I'd rather take a chance on someone that has the chance to be a star. I think some people overestimate him but he still has the most superstar potential in this draft. He is either an A+ or a C-. No middle ground. I like Amare much more than Bosh as long as he can stay healthy. I keep pushing Gerald Green because I still think he could be a star in this league, especially on this team. If we really do trade David Lee I hope we get a 2010 pick back. Interesting lineup if everything pans out.

C- Stoudemire
PF- Clark
SF- Chandler
SG- Green
PG- Jennings

Very athletic and exciting

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your like the 5th person to

your like the 5th person to say that...no we dont need to buy picks...lets save our money for 2010

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What? It doesnt go against

What? It doesnt go against our cap.

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what so u mean? i never

what so u mean? i never heard of that?

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Cash considerations do not

Cash considerations do not count against our salary cap. We give a team a couple million dollars and they give us a pick. Open and closed.

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Hey kamikaze, I'm referring

Hey kamikaze,

I'm referring more to Stoudemire's bad knees (had knee cartilage damage and underwent microfracture surgery).

Being poked in the eye doesn't help his cause either. He is a great player, but I would like to see the Knicks take someone younger and with less history. I would hate to see something like the Antonio McDyess fiasco happen again. (I was actually at the pre-season game when McDyess hurt his knee... ironically the Knicks were playing the Suns).

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I'd like to steal Lemarcus

I'd like to steal Lemarcus Aldridge from Portland in 2010. He is an up and comer with a lower price tag.

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yea. I think Stats is gonna

yea. I think Stats is gonna be fine. I'm worried thought because we need to find some more athletic players like Green and McClinton.

I like Aldridge he could add another big player to the Knicks organization. He is a solid 18-13 player

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We did find them. Green and

We did find them. Green and McClinton. Now the Knicks just have to be smart and get them. Someone I'd love to go after is Anthony Randolph. If we're going to sign and trade Lee he's option #1. We probably wont get a 2010 pick then but he is phenomenal. Gotta work out the numbers to see if its even possible.

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Knicks will trade Lee and

Knicks will trade Lee and the number 8 for the second pick and Ricky Rubio or maybe trade with Washington to get the number 5 and grab curry

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I think if i was the

I think if i was the knicks...i would call trying to see what can i give up for him? prob this yera or 2011 1st rounder

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How many times does it have

How many times does it have to be said. DAVID LEE CANNOT BE TRADED ON DRAFT NIGHT!! Anyways Curry isnt worth it.

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Knicksboy

Walsh took over as GM of the Pacers in 1986. The year before that they were 26-56 & had only reached the playoffs once in the last 10 seasons. Under Walsh, they reached the playoffs 17 out of the next 18 years! Under Walsh, the Pacers have reached the NBA Finals in 2000, reached the Eastern Conference Finals six times and won four Central Division Championships.

- Walsh's 1st major move was prob. drafting Chuck Person in 1986 who would win Rookie of the Year.

- Walsh's 2nd major move was drafting Reggie Miller in 1987. This was major because he drafted Miller over Steve Alford who was REALLY popular in Indiana. Look at what Miller went on to do in his career (ignoring his broadcasting on TNT right now lol).

- Walsh hired Larry Brown in 1993 (who was major) & the Pacers reached the Eastern Conference Finals in 1994 & 1995. & after Larry Brown resigned in 1997, he hired Larry Bird who led the Pacers to 58 victories that year! If not for MJ & the Bulls, the Pacers would've won the championship that year. WALSH built those Pacers teams in the late 90's from the ground up! They may not have won a title, but they were really successful teams.

- In 1999-2000, he traded Antonio Davis to the Raptors for Jonathan Bender the 5th pick in that year's draft. Knee Injuries killed his career, but I'm telling you... That boy was going to be a BEAST. 6-11 225 lbs, 40 inch vertical, 3-pt range... Knee injuries killed his career before he could put it all together. Most importantly though... Many predicted the Pacers wouldn't make the playoffs that year, but we ended up w/ the best record in the east that year & went to the Finals.

- In 2001 a "rebuilding" year after Rik Smits retired & the Pacers lost Mark Jackson to free agency, Walsh traded Dale Davis to Portland for JERMAINE O'NEAL who was burried on the bench in Portland. We all know what JO did w/ the Pacers... Five-time all-star, 2002 Most Improved Player & was a MVP candidate one season.

Just check Walsh's track record. He's a genious. He's patient & like I said... He never puts all of his eggs in one basket. He's made a few mistakes here & there, but majority of the time... he makes the right moves. He just knows how to build a championship team.

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Thank you my good man. Also,

Thank you my good man. Also, join our forum mock draft

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Walsh does not nor ever has

Walsh does not nor ever has impressed me. We could have had Jerry West but we hired Walsh because he's a "New Yorker". He has impressed me with trades but lets just say Gallo wasnt my first choice at 6. Hello Anthony Randolph. He has alot to prove in this years draft. If he drafts Curry I am going to be very disappointed and get that overall "here we go again" feeling." Its time to put up.

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dino went 6 because he was

dino went 6 because he was impressive and dantoni wanted him..........

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No he didnt. Walsh was sold

No he didnt. Walsh was sold on him. D'Antoni played nice because the publicity about him and Gallo's father but he never wanted him. Only Walsh and Fran Fraschilla were sold on him.

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come on now...you need prove

come on now...you need prove of that...i heard he wanted Dino and Walsh signed off on it because he thought he was a top 5 pick and could provide in the Dantoni system

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I remember reading something

I remember reading something in the paper. Granted that could be speculation. Either way. He better stay healthy at least and turn out to be Turkoglu with a better shot like I hope.

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me too. i Honestly think he

me too. i Honestly think he will breakout this year. I wanna see like 15ppg, 6rpg and like 5apg

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Better shot than Turkoglu?

Better shot than Turkoglu? You must only been watching the Lakers series lol. His shot has been money during all the other series. The seemingly lower percentage is deceiving because he takes tough shots, off the dribble, but makes many of them. Few NBA players can score off the dribble. I hope Gallinari becomes nearly as good as him.

Hedo can shoot great. If he had more arch, it would be even better.

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Danilo

Danilo was my favorite non-Jazz player last season.

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How can he not impress you? I guess you don't remember the mess the Knicks were in before Walsh got there. He fired Isiah, hired Dantoni & traded 'Starbury', 'Z-Bo' & Jerome James in like one & a half seasons lol. That's impressive & amazing within itself! He's the reason the Knicks will have so much cap space in 2010 & 2011. I don't know if the Knicks will land Bron, but I can guarantee you that they'll land one or two MAJOR free-agents. Walsh cleared all of that cap space while keeping the team somewhat competitive. At one point, the Knicks were considered to be in the playoff race. That's what he does though... He rebuilds w/o completely obliterating the team.

The draft is hit or miss, plus I'm not counting out Danilo yet. He can't help it he had back problems. I think it showed toughness that he even came back & tried to play considering he ended up having back surgery. I think Danilo will be good. I see something in him.

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Depends on his minutes. He

Depends on his minutes. He has the ability to put up those numbers and with Nate not taking 20 bad shots a game and not passing, Gallo will get more looks. Lee, Chandler, Hughes, and Harrington all have to get around 35 mins per game this season. I figure 25-30 for Gallo if hes healthy. Duhon gets 30 so he can hold up. I hope we can re-sign Wilcox for cheap. Jeffries will get garbage minutes(I hope he doesnt start again). Curry will hopefully be in good enough shape so we can showcase him for a while and then ship him off before the deadline. Hopefully the Gerald Green signing comes through and he can also get 25-30. Q's minutes might start to dwindle unless he gets into the kind of shape he was when he was younger. Throw a few rookies in there and maybe a free agent and thats us.

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I said above that his trades

I said above that his trades last year impressed me. Nothing else he has done has. Dumping Marbury was terrible. He was our best player. Thats D'Antoni's fault though. I really liked all the trades he made but do not like his drafting style. If he signs Gortat that will be -1. I shouldnt have been so harsh but I was/am still frustrated we passed on the logo for him. I agree with you that we will be playoff contenders as long as we retain Lee and Wilcox. I just hope he does it right this year.

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Interesting starting lineup

Walsh has a good track record but drafting Galinari over Brook Lopez & Eric Gordon wasn't a good pick.

The Pacers took the Bulls to Game 7 of the 98 Conf. Finals, they were the favorites in the 99 playoffs to at least make the Finals no way them making the Finals in 2000 was a great year.

The starting lineup of
*David Lee / (S) Courtney Sims / (S) Hamed Haddadi
*Amare Stoudemire / Jared Jeffries / Danilo Gallinari
*DerMar Derozen / Wilson Chandler / Darius Miles
*Dwayne Wade / Xavier Henry / Quentin Richardson
*Steve Nash / Carlos Cabezas / (S)Speedy Claxton

wouldn't play any defense besides Wade the starters at least.
Why would you want Miles or Qrich on the team anyway.

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Drugs

Are you on drugs. How could the knicks get Amare Stoudemire, Wade, and Nash. Can you explain to me how this would happen. How can you pick up 3 very good players in 2 years. Their will be a bidding war for these players, can you explain to me how this will happen.

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Darius Miles? Nash will be

Darius Miles? Nash will be almost 37 by then. Derozan is a bust waiting to happen. How did we get Henry? Where is Claxton now? Q will be gone. Haddadi, really? Gallo playing the 4? You guys are terrible. A better lineup would be.

Amare/Wilcox
Lee/Harrington
Chandler/Gallo
Gerald Green/somebody
Jennings/Duhon

I think we will re-sign Lee, Wilcox, and Harrington this year and Duhon next year. I hope the Gerald Green experiment works. Jeffries shouldnt be in the rotation. Jenings may or may not be a stud but I think he's worth the risk. I'd like to but our way back into the first round of the '09 draft to get Clark if we're planning on trading Lee or not re-signing Wilcox or Harrington.

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No Way..I think the 2010

No Way..I think the 2010 Lineup will be

PG- Curry (8th pick, can shoot and pass well)
SG-Wade(Needs help so he joins Dantoni)
SF-Chandler (in 2 years...imagine his game)
PF-Dino'(I think he could play the 4)
C-Stoudemire(Big man inside. Can get 25-12 in the east)

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Gallo is only 6'8" and not

Gallo is only 6'8" and not tremendously athletic. How can he play the 4? Curry is going to be dominated in the NBA. Wade is the LEAST likely free agent to be moving. He has a good young team and looking strong to sign Bosh.

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ok -1st off how is he least

ok -1st off how is he least likely to move?

2nd- Dino is 6-10

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Wade loves Miami and said

Wade loves Miami and said he's not leaving. Gallo is 6'8". Look it up.

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The Knicks wish he was

The Knicks wish he was 6'10". He's barely taller than Chandler.

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He never was officially

He never was officially measured last year but they are generous with his measurements. Nontheless, can Hedo play PF?

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Yea but Even Wade knows, his

Yea but Even Wade knows, his time is up in Miami, they cant bring anyone in for him

and i did check, he's 6-10

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3428

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There's a lot of people who

There's a lot of people who think Nash would take the MLE to finish his career with D'Antoni in New York.

Gallinari is a tall 6'10 and he could actually grow another inch or two (said some scouts before he was drafted).

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