Kevin Love, All Star?
I know that it is extremely early to be asking this, but do you think that he will get in the All Star game this year, filling Amare's spot? The guy has been playing great, leading the league in rebounding, but unfortunately is playing for a rebuilding team. Usually good players on bad teams end up getting snubbed in the All Star game, but do you think that he has a chance? Sorry if someone already posted this topic...
If he didn't have a chance, we wouldnt be having this discussion.
Dude def. deserves consideration and regardless of what happens, he deserves all the praise he has gotten thus far.
I´d say Amare has a bigger name, Love has better game though.
Amare has found his game again, but Love has been phenomenal. I mean - 32-31 game, several 20 + 20 games - when did you see that last time? I´d be very surprised if he does´nt appear in the All Star Game. Who is better PF in nowadays? Dirk and Joakim will contest hard - but is Dirk really a poweforward? He´s the best player out of these three I guess. But between powerforwads, it should come down as a battle between Joakin Noah and Kevin Love. Love has been a little flashier than his super-effective rival - so I guess Love could be selected ahead of Noah.
if only love and noah played in the same conference........
really someone is posting and dont even know that k love and j noah are in the same confrence really and sense when is noah a pf hes a c as for k love imo he wont make the all star team but will deserve too as mentioned players playing a bad team usually get over looked by players putting up lesser numbers on good teams even though the spurs dont necesarlily have a guy putting up huge numbers it will be hard to not have one spur on the all star team with the start they are off too big al jefferson will prolly make it over k love as well simply because the jazz are a winning team it mite not be fair but thats the way it is in the nba
i was so shocked someone wrote that i forgot to put the arent in the same confernece about noah and k love my bad
K Love will only make the All Star team if there is an injury and David Stern names a replacement..
Stern always seem fair and picks a deserving player regardless of his team's record...
He probably gets snubbed if they dont start to win more games
Players on bad teams don't get snubbed from the All-Star Game, they are turned down for not being good enough. If they were, then their team would not be 4-13.
You mean the good players on bad teams get turned down because their teams aren't good enough. One all-star caliber player doesn't make a team, and not every single all-star carry their team to success either. It takes more than just a single player to make a team successful.
Yeah the Good players on bad teams get turned down because they arent leading there teams to more wins. And rightfully so. Paul Milsap or Lamarcus Aldrige should be getting that spot that Amare left behind
IF you put Paul Millsap on the Clippers, there's a great chance they're worse than they are now. The same can be said about Lamarcus Aldridge...
Put Blake Griffin on the Blazers, and I'm damn near certain they'd be above .500 right now. Put Griffin on the Jazz, and they're an even better team.
There's only so much Griffin can do... He's playing with two rookies and a backup center in his lineup... An underachieving bench. He's doing what he's doing without a superstar point guard or great offensive system (or a great coach) to get him the ball.
I'm all for awarding good players on good teams and I don't think Griffin will be put on the team, but he's definitely having an All-Star caliber season and he'd be having it on any team he was on.
too bad they dont pick things by IF. So since they dont do that lets stick to reality which is,Allstars are picked from teams that are winning. Does that make a player any worst?. no because Gasol was still good when he wasn't on a winning team as well as monte ellis and David lee(although he was picked for the allstar game last year)...Personally I'd love to see Blake as a allstar and kevin love but a player doing similar things while being on a winning team deserves it more
There is no argument for a team being worse than the worst team in the league, which is what the Clippers are with Blake Griffin.
Kobes teams were sub par .500 teams a few years back before he got pau and ron and lamar. Are you saying hes not deserving of an all star spot during those years?
Mediocrity is one thing, but it is really hard to lose three out of four games in the NBA. The travel, the frequency of games, the salary cap system, and the draft that benefits the bad should make it so that any "all star" should not never assemble a 40-119 record.
The Clippers ineptitude is similarly indefensible, 3-15. I'm sorry, get a stop defensively. Blake Griffin is going to be an all-star, but winning basketball includes playing defense. He goes hard, he seems to be a bright player, and I hope he becomes a good defensive player. Right now, he isn't one. That doesn't show up in a box score, but it does in the record.
Yea you wont find too many rookies who play good defense when they get to the nba. that usually takes time
i agree though. Blake needs to become a player who can block shots and be a shut down defender down low on guys like KG and amare. buttt, hes averaging 20 and 11, thats all star stuff. same with kevin loves 14 rpg.
Team defense it what contributes to winning games, not just an individual effort on either side unless it's a very significant or timely play from an individual. The best defensive player in the world can shut down his guy or his area of the court, but he can't shut down a whole team. Even if Griffin was a good defensive player, he still would need help from his other team mates, and coach defensively, and lets be real, half of the all-star players aren't defensive dynamos by any stretch. I get the reason that all-stars should come from winning teams, but the fact that a player should get picked over another who is clearly better simply because his team is better is not fair. What bothers me about the reasons you guys are trying to justify Griffin not being an all-star is that you guys are basically saying it is Giffin's responsibility to do things that are beyond him which is nearly impossible; therefore, he isn't an all-star caliber player. He may not be an all-star, but it doesn't take a basketball genius to see that he is better than most of the starting PFs in the league right now, and I would pick him over these guys regardless of whether he's branded an all-star of not. Some of the all-stars on the all-star team would do worse if they were in Blake Griffin's position.
Lets just check the team.
As of now, Dirk, Pau, Melo and Durant are in. Gay has done enough to make it. I dont really see a spot for Griffin or Love. Westbrook, Kobe, Paul, Williams, (Kidd/Parker/Ginobili.. Ellis, Nash?).....
I just looked at the center selection in the West and with Okafor and Chandler looking like the best choices.... Love could make it if they make him a center...
And I cant believe Im saying this... I really cant.....
Can Darko Milicic ever make an all star game. Hes put up numbers I never expected to see him to ever put up. Hes playing with great confidence and swatting shot like I never thought he could... when I think of all the teams, well, the two that really need a center, his first and last team before Minny, and how he playing.... I really am speechless. Can he keep doing this? Did Thanos grant him his Gauntlet? Did he drink Abdul Jabbars blood? Seriously, who the &$#%#&@! is this guy?
lol..No he cant be a allstar HE's ok on a bad team and a back up on a good team
Al JEfferson is the backup center in the west
17ppg 9reb 2blks on a playoff team.
"He goes hard, he seems to be a bright player, and I hope he becomes a good defensive player. Right now, he isn't one. That doesn't show up in a box score, but it does in the record."
When did Zach Randolph become a good defender? Or Dirk Nowitzki? Or David West? Or Carlos Boozer? Or Chris Bosh? Or David Lee? Pau Gasol isn't even a great defender to be honest... Most of these guys just play on good or solid defensive teams... They have help.
Griffin isn't any worse than any of those players defensively. He's not a great defender, but he certainly isn't a bad one. His team just is a poor defensive team, something not one player can seriously cure.
I hope the Clippers start winning some games, because he's an All-Star. Hopefully this win vs the Spurs tonight (in which Griffin had 31 points, 13 rebounds, 4 assists, 2 steals and 1 block) gives them some momentum and leads to more victories. IF they can get everybody healthy and develop some chemistry, they'll be a much better team.
No, Griffin doesn't know where to be on defense. He had admitted this. Nobody is asking him to be Dwight Howard, but know where to be and it will make the task easier. He is a rookie, he has a bad coach so it is understandable, but when gauging him as one of the best in the league this year one should not ignore it.