According to David Aldridge, Love wanted to be Minnesota's "designated player" under the rules of the new CBA and requested the five year max extention, but Minnesota declined. Since Minnesota wouldn't give him the five year deal, they gave him an opt out clause in his four year deal instead.
According to Aldridge, the reason Minnesota didn't want to make Love it's designated player is because they're saving it for... Ricky Rubio. Thoughts?
I know this is off-topic but did you see what Kevin Love's brother tweeted? He was talking about how Kevin Love only signed for three years because he is going to leave after the three years. He was also talking about how the T-Wolves are only "renting" him for that long and he will sign with another team for more money after his contract is over.
Kevin Love's brother (http://www.twitter.com/collinlove) tweeted earlier: Nice of the @MNTimberwolves to rent @kevinlove for 3 years. I (http://www.twitter.com/stevenshega) replied with: It WAS nice of them to pay him 62 mil & allow flexibility to put better parts around him. He can opt out & re-sign for MORE $. He replied: .......with another team. Twitter
Anyways, back to the point. If Love wants to be the designated player he needs to take the team to a whole new level within the next couple years. If you look at Rubio, he's already making his teammates better and there was a post earlier where the was a comparison between Jason Kidd and Rubio, and we all know the impact J-Kidd had when he was in his prime. I'm not saying Kevin Love is a great player, I'm just saying Rubio can do more for the team. But in Love's defense, he is 20-10 threat every single game and he does carry the T-Wolves on his back. It will be interesting to see what plays out.
Wow thats alot of faith to put in a first year player..shocking but nothing surprises me when it comes to minnesota
well at the end of the day, the wolves got him locked up for 3 more seasons after this one so im sure they are happy. If love would have said 5 years or ill play the free agent market, then who knows if it would have been the right decision for the wolves or not.
If the Wolves continue to build Love will stay because it would cost him too much money and too many years the way the new collective bargianing is set up. These guys aren't just players anymore... they are corporations now and make their decisions accordingly. Love had stated that he understood the reason(s) for the 4 yr offer and that he was on the same page as far as saving future flexibilty to help ensure a bettter a better more competitive future for the team. Love enjoys Minnesota and that's something that most people that have never been here can understand.
Do they not remember that Ricky Rubio did not want to play for the Wolves when they drafted him? Rubio is on his way out as soon as possible.
That Rubio might not wanna play for a small market team like minnesota at the time because of the prescident set by Yi in Milwaukee....but he always shot that down and said it wasn't true.
I don't know why everybody is just assuming he will opt out after 3 years. Love clearly understands by signing this deal, the team will have more flexibility to make roster moves and better themselves. I hope he stays after his new contract is up, because I'm sure all everybody will say now is that he will be a Laker in 3 years.
If Love wanted to leave, he could have just signed a qualifying offer this upcoming offseason and be an UFA next offseason.
I don't remember when Rubio didn't want to play for the Timberwolves actually. Please enlighten me.
I've heard Rubio say he enjoys playing in Minnesota and prefers the small areas as opposed to LA or NY
You guys really don't remember any of that? Why did it take him so long to come to play in the U.S.? He wanted to be drafted by N.Y. He wanted to stay in Spain because he didn't want to play for the Wolves.
Let me find a few articles.
"And more than once the 20-year-old point guard has threatened to just stay in Spain because he didn’t want to play in Minnesota."
"Apparently, The Rubios aren't interested in having dinner with Taylor and the T-Wolves. If Taylor were to invite the Knicks to the table, perhaps they'd reconsider?"
"Rubio had reportedly said he didn’t want to play in Minnesota prior to being drafted"
Didnt it take him so long to come to the U.S because he fell in the draft and couldnt pay the buyout from his spanish club?
Joventut reportedly were going to lower the buyout and had made a deal with the Wolves for it to take place but Rubio stated he was not ready to play for Minnesota and needed more time in Europe.
My favorites are always the unknown sources... they know everything. It's tabloid journalism and you have to be a complete moron to believe what's being written.
If I was Kevin Love I would have taken the 1 year QO and became an UFA in 2013 instead of being stuck in Minnesota for 3 more miserable year. Same for guys like Eric Gordon who are stuck on teams that wont get any better any time soon.
Yeah he didnt feel like he was ready so he waited 2 years. I am pretty sure it was his family who wanted a big market, he always refuted reports that he did.
"If I was Kevin Love I would have taken the 1 year QO and became an UFA in 2013 instead of being stuck in Minnesota for 3 more miserable year. Same for guys like Eric Gordon who are stuck on teams that wont get any better any time soon. "
How is being in Minnesota miserable? He is making max money now, gets to play with rubio, get coached by adleman, and the twolves are one of the most exciting young and improved teams in the league.
Rubio did have well-documented reservations about coming to Minny, but if you watch him play at home you can tell he's taken with the small-town, underdog feeling coming out of Minnesota. Garnett apparently played a part in convincing Rubio to give Minny a chance, and I really think Rubio will stick around to play with Love, Williams and the rest of their young players, and also be given the chance to play for Adelman, who is a great coach.
Hopefully the Timberwolves can take that leap and become a playoff team next season, because if they start competing I see no reason why Love would abandon ship, franchise tag or otherwise.
They are building something real in Minny, let's just hope Love can see that before his deal runs out.
offtopic- anyone see the stat line of love against mavs, 0 offensive rebounds but i saw him got the miss of ellington in the 4th.. no big deal anyways heh...
What the NBA needs is for the bottom 3/4 size markets to only serve as a minor league system for the rest of the league... wouldn't that be fun to watch idiot?
Kevin Love really doesn't have much more to prove. He could stand to get better defensively, but he's already one of the most well rounded players in the league.
It's smart that the Twolves didn't sign him to the max. Paying more for a player than you need to is just silly. A lot can change in 3 years...
You can &$#%#&@! on the Twolves franchise all you want, but I would take their franchise over at least half of the franchises in the league right now. They are stocked with young talent, they have cap flexibility, and their core (Love, Rubio) really cares about the game and has a high basketball IQ.
They could be making a rise similar to OKC in the next couple years
Tongue Out- think about things you wanted when you were 18...were they the same things when you were 20? 23? older?
Don't be ignorant and immediately dismiss everything Minnesota is doing because they are a small market. I feel like you would be a better basketball mind than that.
your links for Rubio not wanting to come over are from rumorsandrants.com and a hoopshype forum.
Its not about the bottom teams being bad and who the hell wants to play in Minnesota going into their prime, he gets no Love(no pun intended) in the 1st place, he's a top 3 PF and is stuck in a market where Free Agents wont go, so they'll have to build through the draft but they aren't as bad as before so they'll be picking between 9 and 14 for the next 3 years, with no legit impact guys at those picks most of the time, it'll be hell for him to even think of competing in that situation. Learn from KG, KL and get out as soon as possible
The hoopshype link isn't a forum. Try again bro.
When I was 18, I wanted to go to college. I'm 20 now and I'm going to college. Nothing changed.
I may be the exception, all I'm saying is Ricky Rubio could be tempted to play for a team like the Lakers, Knicks, Celtics, or another big market team. It was his dream to begin with. Not saying it is impossible he'll sign with the Wolves but I would lean with him leaving if it was such a big part of his teenage and younger years.
I love how everyone STILL thinks that Minnesota is just some &$#%#&@! hole kinda place to play. Ya'll realize they have been hovering around .500 all season right? How about the fact that they would be the 8th seed in the East right now? Not to mention their core group of Rubio, Love, Williams, and even Johnson are still young and have tons of potential! Lets see what the ages are of those 4 players shall we? 22, 24, 21, 25. What more do they need with all the ability they have on that team; EXPERIENCE. I wouldn't be surprised if the Wolves traded Beasely for a pick in the upcoming draft even if its in the late lottery or even in the 20's. That means they're still stockpiling assets and gathering all the talent they can. OKC was able to come out of rebuilding so quickly because they managed to get two absolute studs and a great player in Harden too. The Wolves have two great players and a number of good players and a bunch more of role players.
As for Rubio and Love leaving... As long as this team shows continued improvement and as Kevin Love said, "Going in the right direction" they will want to stay. Because why in the hell would Love want to go to LA when they will be on the way down by the time he can leave. Kobe will be as old as father time, Pau Gasol might be even softer than a room full of pillows, and Bynum will be on his 19th leg injury.
This team has all the talent they are going to have for the next three years. They don't have a decent starting SG or C. I can't see them getting much better then the 8th seed. Love and Rubio can't do everything themselves. They blew too many picks on players who don't compliment the rest of their team.
Young players improve by gaining experience playing thereby improving the entire team and the Wolves roster is full of youngtalented players striving to improve. How many teams can you think of that have star players at all 5 positions? It's becomes about how a player fits within a system... and sure the Wolves would love to improve at the SG and center position but so would many other teams.
Tongue out- my bad, it was a hoopshype link.
When you were 18, you wanted to go to 1 college? or were there multiple colleges? Maybe you are the exception of the one person who never changed his mind or gave second thoughts and if you are, congrats cuz alot of us mull over decisions all the time.
My point is that its likely that Rubio may have had reservations about Minnesota, due to exactly what everybody on these kind of sites say. "MN has no talent" "nobody will want to play for them" "its cold"...and who could blame him, but he is here now and he has been elevated to "star status"...he is a fan favorite and everybody absolutely loves him here. Perhaps his perception has changed. It may not have, and he could be just waiting to get out to go to the much warmer Boston or New York, but I hope I'm wrong
Charlie Sheen- Newsflash, KLove gets alot of Love, hes in a market that Dwight Howard won't go, but wait and see if players start to take notice of Rubio and Love and find Minnesota a bit more enticing going forward, if not, trades are also possible, and Minnesota has a decent amount of assets that can be packaged to acquire more players.
Everybody thought Dirk shouldve left Dallas because they didnt have a chance and had maxed out what their roster would produce...that turned out well. I'm not saying Minnesota will ever do that, but sometimes fortune favors the loyal.
Look Rubio is on the same restrictive rookie contract as everyone gets. First, he is currently locked up for three years. Then he becomes a restricted free agent. If he improves like people expect, he will get a max contract offer from Minnesota, so that locks him up for another 3, 4 or 5 years.
If Love continues to play like he is playing (or even gets better), then he will opt out at year 3 and get offers for max contracts from lots of teams (people call Love a 20-10 guy, but he isn't . . . he is better than that!). If Rubio has become an elite point guard by then and if Williams has become really good, Love may take the higher amount of money that Minnesota can offer him and stick with the city he knows who will have good enough players to be contenders.
But all this speculation is far down the road. Remember it is still possible that Williams is going to become the best player on that team; he has that kind of potential. This could be a very stacked team in two years. However, if everyone pans out, Minnesota won't have the money to pay all these players. They can't afford the luxury tax like Dallas, LA and New York can.
Yeah that's because Glen Taylor is such a penny pincher. If they can't find any way to trade Beasely, Glen won't pay him, and they'll let him walk when his contract is up. I don't see Wes Johnson getting any more than a $5-7 million deal after his contract is up, and you have to remember that JJ Barea and Ridnour both have about $4-6 million per year along with Darko's $5 million. Once all that comes off the books, conveniently around the time Derrick Williams and Rubio will be resigning, they will be able to afford both (hopefully).