kevin jones is making perry and acy look weak. respect for kevin.
Guess who's getting banned
Well to please rad..
That white kid from Baylor can shoot!
Kevin Jones is a warrior.
Sucks to see a loss for the Mountaineers.... Hard fought and now people have seen what I have been talkin about...
i will compare Kevin Jones to Andrés Nocioni
Kevin Jones to me is a less athletic Tyler Hansbrough.
I bet that KJ is in a mock draft now... Even though he has been doing this all year, this game will put him in the top 60 players....
I can't believe that Kevin Jones is not in any mock drafts, he has been killing it the whole seaosn. He just pushed Perry Jones III around the whole game. Perry definitely needs to get stronger. Brady Heslip is a really good shooter and the JUCO transfer Pierre Jackson I think is the X-factor for this team.
Is that he is basically right. Not as much with Acy, but Perry Jones III was shut down. Kevin Jones has bulked up considerably and looking like a solid stretch 4. Perry got punished in this game. He is still incredibly talented and all, but he HAS to be more aggressive. He does nothing to establish post position and I find his perimeter skills to be vastly overrated. Why in the hell does Scott Drew not teach these guys how to use their size to their advantage? If he does, they sure didn't show it in this game.
Well said, BN and MVtD.
Frenchy Jackson can deal. Heslip can pop. KJ has got to be a draft pick. PJIII has zero tenacity and outside game.
First Baylor game I've watched all of, and wow, does their zone suck. The only zone I approve of in college is Syracuse, but Baylor's is especially bad. They give up so many offensive boards and players don't learn how to defend their man properly.
Playing zone in college always hurts your ability to defend at the next level where it's almost exclusively man.
I was getting frustrated with the guards of Baylor not getting Jones involved more, but then he was just passing the ball immediately whenever he touched it for the most part. Spent way too much time on the perimeter, and wasn't very active off the ball outside of setting a few half-hearted screens. That said, a couple of times he took it to the rack and you could see the potential there as an athletic PF. There's no chance he's a SF at the next level, but he could still be an amazing 4.
It all depends on where he ends up, but I think Jones would flourish in a situation where the team already has a scoring wing and the pressure isn't there to be the leading scorer. I see him as a Gasol type, or an early Aldridge who teases until he's ready to step up.
Overall, hard to judge him either way on this game, but I'll be watching Baylor very closely.
i only watched the first half
and perry jones played like a b*tch
kevin jones dominated him, deniz kilici outplayed him to
i know its one game, but i dont see how baylor is ranked so high...
granted, they are talented, athletic, got size
ive watched them a few times this yr, but there ranking shouldnt be 7
well they are 12-0 with wins over west virginia, byu, san diego state, and northwestern. They're one of only 6 remaining unbeatens...ranked 7th is entirely appropriate
on another note, yes, kevin jones beasted people and reminds me of popeye jones
You guys are aware Baylor won this game right. That West Virginia is a very good progam, a tough hard fighting team and that Baylor persevered and came out of this game with a win. They showed that the teams success is not based on Jones and Millers performance. Heslip, Jackson, and Acy are extremely important pieces for this Baylor team, I actually believe the most important player in regards to this teams success is Jackson. Baylor has a great team, it is early in the season and noone can deny that Perry Jones has shown flashes of great skill this year already.
not a good showing for PJIII in front of all those scouts. He did nothing to dispel his reputation of being a low motor player. dude just floats out there. Almost like he's perfectly content whether he gets his touches or not...like he doesnt care if he's an impact player on either end of the floor. Whatever "it" is, he doesnt have it. there's no dog in him.
This was Baylor's first real test and PJIII looked like a future Tim Thomas out there.
Kevin Jones pushed him around a little bit and completely threw him off. Now imagine him playing against guys who are tougher than Kevin Jones every game night.
Oh I forgot, he's a wing despite his lack of ball skills and perimeter defense for a wing. lol. No chance he's a SF at the next level.
Where are the clowns like auber who was predicting Jones is a #1 pick? He clearly doesn't have a position in the NBA and will be destroyed down low on a nightly basis. His stats are now on par with last years. Every sign points toward massive bust.
But, you can't deny that Perry Jones III had a pretty awful game. He did NOTHING to establish position or demand the ball. I do not blame things as much on their guards as in Jones III getting flat out pushed around.
It honestly reminded me of Kevin Durant, not at all in a good way. I feel Durant got pushed around hard in the play-offs, hence the team having incredible difficulty getting him the ball. The same thing happened to Jones III last night, except here is the big difference. Durant is still talented and persistent enough to at least make some offensive impact, even in that position. Jones III does not.
He is definitely talented, Baylor was obviously the better team. West Virginia was playing much better than them and still barely winning, outside of Kevin Jones and Jabarie Hinds, not much was happening on that end. Obviously Jones III has shown flashes, but this was a game that put him against a guy who he would probably have to be playing in the NBA and he did not show up. He is going to be a high draft pick, but it shows there are still serious concerns about his physicality.
Baylor got it done and West Virginia obviously has a beast in Kevin Jones and were not a bad team. You still would love to have seen Jones III do more in this game, in 41 minutes. It is ridiculous to judge someone off of one game, but this was indeed a big dud. He is a tough player to pass up, but I just do not see him being in the class of a few other players in this draft. He is a PF who seems to struggle physically and I feel he lacks aggression. He is talented, but you get worried when a guy gets as overwhelmed as he seemed in this game. I still have him really high on my draft board because he has a great deal of talent, but I hope he brings it in Big 12 play, because he didn't against West Virginia.
Perry Jones just is not a PF but he's not really a SF either. He will struggle at both positions in the NBA, the PF spot due to him being too thin and weak for the position and the fact that he can niether rebound, block shots or defend on even an adequate level for a 4 and the SF because he doesn't have the lateral quickness or the handle.
I see Perry Jones as the next Tim Thomas
Kevin Jones is good but he won't be a Gasol in the NBA as someone said. Her might be a Haslem at best in the NBA. I think some fans don't know how to look at a college players game and figure out how it will translate in the NBA. He could be a good off the bench player but he could also end up as a euro player.
Baylor is like most athletic teams, they try to beat you by being more athletic bt don't do much of the basics nor have the greatest fundamentals, it showed a little this game but will show more against a very good team . Very talented though and got a good win against a good WV team. Said this 2 years ago and i'll say it again, Perry Jones motor will not allow him to ever become a star at the next level
It's so funny how a team is gonna waste a top 5 pick on Perry Jones. He has no position and zero assertiveness.
Anthony Randolph 2.0.
No post game, no outside shooting game, and zero will to assert his presence.
Dig up the old threads on Perry Jones from last year. I have been criticizing him since day 1.
Athleticism and size don't mean jack dump if you don't know how to play the game.
I have similar issues with Drummond but at least he's just a freshman and he has a position.
I think that lots of people have a hard time judgin how a players skills will translate to the NBA. GMs get fired for picking bad players all the time. Nobody can say for sure what a player will be or how good they will be.
you guys its one game...
we have no idea how he will become in the nba
hes still only 19 or 20
hes to talented and he knows it
he will become very good one day
"He might be a Haslem at best in the NBA."
Terrible. Just terrible. Perry Jones is gonna be Udonis Haslem, AT BEST, in the NBA. I think I might have seen it all now.
UKNation was saying Kevin Jones=Haslem
not Perry Jones=Haslem
But, I do not agree with that comparison, either. Jones III being compared to Haslem would make much less sense, though. Still think most comparisons about Perry Jones III are pretty bad. He may be more athletic than almost any 4 out there, but it ultimately comes down to skill set and being able to stand your ground.
Maybe LaMarcus Aldridge and Chris Bosh have not always been able to shoot the way they do now, but they were certainly ahead of Jones in that aspect. Plus, they both were much more aggressive on the boards. I think people see Jones as this freakish, taller, Kevin Durant, but I see so little to show me the similarities in their game.
He can handle the rock, but he rarely seems to break people down in games. He definitely will be a high pick, because you cannot teach certain things he possesses in size and athleticism, but I feel he needs to focus on PF skills, on both sides of the ball. If he stays with this, "mis-match 3" thing, than I believe it is a big mistake.
I apologize then.
yeah mickey said it right i have seen alot Perry's handles on the perimeter but he almost never tries to beat his man using it