[SupParticipant]

Kevin Durant is the most talented player in the NBA, and has a chance to be the best ever! Westbrook however doesn’t seem to see it that way. Westbrook takes shots before a pass is even made in an offensive sequence and thinks it’s ok just because it goes in sometimes. It’s not okay. Durant is not playing as good as he could be. Even though he averages 27 he could be averaging 37. Durant works hard on his game and all it has earned him is less shot attempts.

Now to the main point of this post, Durant needs to take on the mentality of “No more Mr. Nice Guy.” I say since Westbrook wants to be the man let him be the man in OKC. Durant though should leave and go to a big city like Chicago or LA (Lakers) where they will let him shine like he’s supposed to. That’s how I feel about it.

[HaleParticipant]

 Why wouldn’t they just get rid of Westbrook instead? From OKC’s perspective, why would they let go of ‘the most talented player in the NBA’ and keep Westbrook?

[db24kb24Participant]

 How do you suppose KD will shine in LA with  Kobe being the league leader in fg attempts, Bynum demanding touches being a dominate All-Star C, and Pau being of AS quality?

[TyroberParticipant]

 Another insane post from the user Sup. 

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Westbrooks decision making is taking years off Scott Brooks life, but until Durant can establish himself at the pinch post or even the elbow a la Dirk, I can’t blame Westbrook too much.  Durant gets pushed out past the three point line way too easily. I also think Harden should be doing more of the play making. Westbrook needs to learn how to change speeds, right now he’s going %100 every play, it’s like a pitcher that only throws fast balls, eventually you can learn to time it.  

[bobbybParticipant]

EVOLUTION,,This is not my opinion, this is a an observation. This what the game has become, pass first point guards are what teams are drafting. 

Assists

Derrick Rose considered to be the best point guard in the league is only # 7

Other #1 picks John Wall and Kyrie Irving are  #10 and #25

ROY Tyreke Evens only is #26

( btw , dont say their teammates are scrubs, and have no one to pass to. Deron Williams has Shelden Williams as a post player.I rest my case.)

[So raspyParticipant]

wow dude

[NbanflguyParticipant]

There is so much wrong with this thread. I do not know how to respond.

[SupParticipant]

OKC has allowed this to go on too long, as far as I’m concerned they’re encouraging this ridiculousness. Obviously OKC would love to keep Durant, however it is not in Durant’s interest in any way shape or form. He was being nice to these people by even playing in that city. Kobe would’ve demanded a trade on Draft Nite! But no Durant was trying to be nice and he’s stayed and how do you reward him? You take away his shot attempts! It’s like Sup he comes on here and enlightens you people and how do you reward him????? You take away points

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 1.Kevin Durant is not the "most" talented player in the NBA, Lebron James is.

2. Why does it seem only when OKC loses a game people bring up Kevin Durant and Russell Westbrook splitting up or how bad a player Westbrook is? They are good together, the Thunder wouldn’t have signed both of them to big contracts if they thought otherwise.

3. I will admit Westbrook’s decision making at times is terrible, but most of some of those mistakes come in crucial moments so I think they look 30x worse than what they really are, and people tend to take that and run with it.

4. In the month of Feb Russell is averaging 27.3 PPG, 5.8 APG, 5.3 RPG and the Thunder are 4-2

In his last 10 games he is averaging 26.1 PPG, 6.1 APG, 4.8 RPG and the Thunder are 7-3

I don’t see you making a thread about that tho, get off his back, OKC needs Russell to do what he does night in and night out, if the Thunder Orginization thought Westbrook&Durant wasn’t working they wouldn’t have gave both of them contract extensions.

 

[niQParticipant]

The OKC Thunder are FIRST in the West. Durant has already stated himself Westbrook is the point guard he wants to play with. He’s also publically asked reporters why they keep asking him if there’s beef/who’s better/etc.

The fact that they’ve had so much success is cause they’re doing something right, and they’ve been doing it since last season and it helped them get into the Western Conference Finals.

[Ghost01Participant]

 I find it humorous that players like Durant and Carmelo always have "teammates that don’t know how to get them the ball" yet, both of them are always amongst the league lead in shots taken. The problem with those guys is that they are ball stoppers, so it never seems like they have the right teammates around them. When you are a wing, and your’e not one with elite ballhandling skills (i.e. Lebron, Wade, Kobe, MJ, etc.), it seems like no one can get you the ball. Because OKC has another elite scorer, and he happens to play PG, people exaggerate and make it seem like Durant doesn’t get his. Oh he does. But maybe building your team around a one dimensional scorer who doesn’t make anyone better isn’t the recipe for success. 

[Ghost01Participant]

 I find it humorous that players like Durant and Carmelo always have "teammates that don’t know how to get them the ball" yet, both of them are always amongst the league lead in shots taken. The problem with those guys is that they are ball stoppers, so it never seems like they have the right teammates around them. When you are a wing, and your’e not one with elite ballhandling skills (i.e. Lebron, Wade, Kobe, MJ, etc.), it seems like no one can get you the ball. Because OKC has another elite scorer, and he happens to play PG, people exaggerate and make it seem like Durant doesn’t get his. Oh he does. But maybe building your team around a one dimensional scorer who doesn’t make anyone better isn’t the recipe for success. 

[NbanflguyParticipant]

 

Definition of enlighten: to give intellectual or spiritual light to; instruct; impart knowledge

 

 

 

That is definitely not what you did here.

[SupParticipant]

youngdave you’ve proven my point

[orangeshadow83Participant]

They love Durant in OKC he has the chance to be a special player that stays on one team his whole carrer. He could be the best ever supersonic/thunder player. Why would he pass this chance up? Personally I like Durant and Westbrook together and think they can be one of the nest duos for multiple years. Westbrook has the intensity that i feel like Durant lacks at times. He will learn to take better shots and become mmore of a playmaker as he matures. They could win a ring or two espcially if Harden stays with them.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 What point is that? 

[SupParticipant]

Point being that Russell Westbrook has passed himself the ball so many times over the last 10 games that he has averaged more points than a player who has arguably the best offensive tools in NBA history.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 My dude what are you talking about? If you knew how to read you would clearly see:

Kevin Durants last 10 games PPG is 29.2 

Russell Westbrooks last 10 games PPG is 26.1

So once again IDK what you are talking about, and IDK what point I proved for your argument.

[NbanflguyParticipant]

arguably the best offensive tools in NBA history.

I argue not

[bebopParticipant]

have actually managed to figure out how to use the internet. 

[SupParticipant]

Still too close for comfort

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

Lmaoooo too close for comfort? Durant is averaging 27 a game on 20 shot attempts per game, what more do you want, the Thunder are fine!

Thunder are #1 in the West have two All-Star players, and have good-great role players and have a legit shot at winning a ship.

I give up man lol

[SupParticipant]

I think Russell Westbrook needs to be by himself. I wouldn’t want Durant to stay on a team with Iverson point guard either and I like Iverson. I like Westbrook too but not as Durant’s pg

[SupParticipant]

Your welcome. (Kobe voice)

[NbanflguyParticipant]

Go away. (Kobe voice)

[SupParticipant]

You’re welcome (Kobe voice)

[jacobkeyParticipant]

 People act like KD is light years ahead of Westbrook, but he’s not. He’s a better and more efficient scorer, but Westbrook is a better distributor and defender. KD has gotten it in his head that he’s a 3pt shooter but he’s average at best. Don’t get me wrong KD is a phenominal player, but he has a lot of things to work on as well, not just Westbrook. Also, OKC fits KD’s personality. He’s not a big city kind of guy.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Are you guys taking this post seriously? 

Sup is known as a troll, he only posts ludicrous statements and he’s succuessfully trolling all of you.

Just let this thread die out, it’s useless to argue it.

[SupParticipant]

I’m glad you feel I’m successful, but you give me too much credit. I truly feel Kevin Durant would be best served leaving OKC!

[R-Dot-13Participant]

Yes he should leave..
Also.. the Chicago Bulls should rebuild..

right?

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

As we said in the Kings-Thunder thread, the Thunder only have 3 scorers.  So what if Westbrook guns for 25 a night?  Give him 25, give KD 30 and even James Harden 20 a night.  That’s 75 points, while the rest of the cast would be hard pressed to score 30-35 points a night COMBINED.

The Thunder need to start Harden (the Pippen to Durant’s Jordan), run the offense through Harden, let Westbrook play more like Dwayne Wade or Monta Ellis, and then try to find a sixth man.

The Thunder’s offense gets sluggish when they only have 2 scorers in the lineup just as the Bulls struggled in the playoffs because Rose is the only guy that can go out and get his own points.  It also gets dicey when Durant is content to just stand behind the 3 point line and pop jumpers all night like a 6’9 1/2 version of Reggie Miller.  He needs to get on the blocks more and score, attack to get to the line, and shoot some mid-range fadeaways like Dirk. 

 

[Ghost01Participant]

Good point Memphis. I think people fail to realize how bad the OKC Thunder are behind their top 3 scorers. Like, no one else on their other team is even a weapon. Their fourth best offensive player is Dequan Cook. Thats bad, real bad. Westbrook went from being the most underrated player in the game (first 2+ Years), to the most overrated ("He’s better than D Rose!"), to must underrated again. He makes some bad decisions, but generally speaking he is one of best combinations of size and athleticism I have ever seen at the PG spot. He can get to the paint at will, and they need him at 25+ a night if they are going to contend. And Durant STILL gets his. I love Durant, he can shoot anywhere anytime and he hits an array of difficult shots. But never have I seen such a one trick pony get so much hype as "best player in the league". He needs Westbrook, and he ain’t no Lebron, lets face it. 

[Tobe BryantParticipant]

ESPN oughta drug test you IMMEDIATELY!!!! *Stephen A. Smith voice*

YOU GONE LISTEN TO SUP?…THE BOY’S A BONAFIDE SCRUB AS A POSTER!

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

The Thunder could have used Shane Battier off the bench.  He can defend wing players, play some power forward, hit 3’s get around 8 points a game, and help out on the boards.  He would have been the calming influence off the bench if they move Harden into the starting lineup. 

Right now there is too much of a drop-off scoring wise between Durant/Westbrook/Harden and everyone else (including Serge Ibaka).  They need to find someone to fill that 12-14 point scoring gap.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Hit the nail right on the head.

But you can’t tell that to most Durant lovers.

When I argue with people about this topic outside of the internet, I just go back to the Memphis and OKC playoff series, where Tony Allen made Durant shoot 40 foot 3 pointers because that’s all he can do against a good defender, Durant can score, but if that jumpshot isn’t falling Durant struggles to get his 28 a game.

[GottaBeTheShoesParticipant]

Westbrook is a brilliant point guard and I don’t think he needs to change a ton to his game.  "Don’t try and fix something that isn’t broke".  All he really needs to focus on is a better Assist/turnover ratio.  5.9:4.3 doesn’t work for me but then again everyone this year is struggling with turnovers.  Durant and West mesh really well on and off the court although their games don’t compliment each other they still mesh together as much as Wade and bron do or as much as Rose and Scalabrine.

[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

I’m pretty sure that’s the lowest score I’ve ever seen on this site. I’m not even mad! I’m kind of impressed!

[HitsterParticipant]

I like the theory that OKC need another scorer, I bet a lot of coaches think if we stop the main 3 scorers then we an win the game but it is not that simple as otherwise the OKC would not be 20-6. I wonder what would happen if teams worked out a way to slow down the triple threat maybe reduce them to 50ppg combined, could OKC grind out lower scoring wins?

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

I think that Ibaka, Cook, Perk, Maynor, Collison, and Thabo could combine
for 50 but not every night and not for 4 times in a 7 game series deep in the playoffs.

If the team had Rubio or Rondo at point then he could get the other guys their points, but
Westbrook is not that guy. For the Thunder to be successful he needs to be a point forward
type like Pippen and get the other guys involved.

[aamir543Participant]

Durant and Westbrook scares me more than anyone other than James and Wade. they love playing with each other, and Brooks does a great job of drawing up a scheme so that they compliment each other. I loved the little Harden brush screen for Durant they ran a couple times yesterday. I said most the fourth, I thought it was over when OKC was up by 8, so I don’t know what went wrong in the end, but they play very well off each otehr.

Many people think Westbrook wants to be the first option, but he isn’t teh guy that takes shots for the sake of taking shots, I don’t think he thinks, "This is my possesion, my shot", and then takes a 30 foot fadeaway.

All the shots he takes are really good shots, but one thing I like is that he is getting below the free throw line for his jumpshot, instead of the top of the key, like last spring in the playoffs, and that shot is falling now.

Don’t break these two apart, they are only getting started, just wait till late May, they’ll definatly be there with Miami, Chicago, and another team from the West.

 

 

 

[Scottoant93Participant]

 Lol i cant believe i wasted my time open this thread i could be be talking about dragon ball z right now

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

Sooooo…doesn’t this mean that Russell Westbrook should leave OKC?

After a while, you get pretty good at guessing which threads will have a crapload of negatives just by looking at their titles.  This is one of those threads.

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