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Kentucky vs. St. John's

Usually not to into these "hype beast" type posts, but is anyone watching Kentucky/St. John's right now? A lot of future NBA players in this game, as I think that Maurice Harkless will indeed end up being a first round pick at some point, not to mention the insane amount of talent on Kentucky.

I have to say though, have really liked Anthony Davis when I have seen him before, but in the early part of this game, he has been amazing. He has 4 points, 5 rebounds (4 offensive), 4 blocks and a steal in this game, but he has been so freaking active and a complete pest on defense. Kentucky forced 3 early shot clock violations and Davis has great timing.

The "Bat Signal" (My nickname for him, given his unibrow) got burned once by God'sGift Achiuwa, but he has just given so much energy. Their is a reason this guy is being considered most people's number one pick. I still think Drummond has just insane potential, and have not yet given up on him as first pick, but Davis could make it tough. Well, just had a 4th shot clock violation, Kentucky 16-9 with 8:17 left. Kentucky has an amazing 6-7 deep, but after that, it does get dicey. Just wondered if anyone else was watching or had an opinion.


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JONES!! Just had a MONSTER

JONES!! Just had a MONSTER putback!!

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True that

Terrence is looking solid, 13 and 4 at the half. Davis has 7, 8 and 5 blocks. I am going to put it out there, because I think it could be true. I think people might be hating on Davis because of his unibrow. Learn to love the brow, because it is going to be around a LONG time.

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davis is a monster

davis is a monster

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I absolutely love davis, the

I absolutely love davis, the dude is an absolute best and contests everything within 8 feet of the bucket, I still would take this kid over Drummond with the #1 pick the kids motor is off the charts.

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man

Davis is a beast. Before the college season started just lookin at the h.s. highlights i could see he was good but he looked a little soft. Boy was I WRONG. I can see him lookin at the ball before it comes of the glass like "that &$#%#&@! mine, I'ma use these long ass arms and go get that &$#%#&@! wherever it goes." He's also a skilled shot blocker, doesn't just jump at everything, times it right and we he doesn't get it he definately alters it. i could go on and on....number 1 pick for SURE.

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I have always had Davis over

I have always had Davis over Drummond for no 1 pick........

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Davis has been very

Davis has been very impressive and I've always been a big fan of his game but Drummond is a more skilled player offensively (while Davis seems to get a large chunk of his points off putbacks and hustle) and has about 40 lbs of muscle on Davis. I'd still take Drummond #1 if I had the pick. But as crazy as it is to say it I think Davis might already be the best defensive player in the nation.

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Davis has not impressed me

Davis has not impressed me honestly, I think he is seriously being overrated right now. All I have seen from him on the offensive end is catching lobs, he looks really raw. Defensively, he is great but energy guys who can block shots can be had. Drummond is a far better prospect.

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Anthony Davis is a Marcus

Anthony Davis is a Marcus Camby clone to me. He has the potential to be a league leader in rebounds and blocks too. He's not a super skilled offensive player, but he does have upside and his motor is outstanding. He competes harder than you'd think if you just look at him without seeing him play. He really runs the floor better than anyone in the country, and he's a freak athlete with the physical tools to get to about 245 or even 250 in time.

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theres a Davis hater out

theres a Davis hater out there somewhere...why not explain urself???

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"Anthony Davis is a Marcus

"Anthony Davis is a Marcus Camby clone to me. He has the potential to be a league leader in rebounds and blocks too. He's not a super skilled offensive player, but he does have upside and his motor is outstanding. He competes harder than you'd think if you just look at him without seeing him play. He really runs the floor better than anyone in the country, and he's a freak athlete with the physical tools to get to about 245 or even 250 in time."

Perfectly said. I LOVE Anthony Davis and I've been saying for a long time that I'd take him over Drummond. Drummond doesn't play hard.

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Perfectly said. I LOVE

Perfectly said. I LOVE Anthony Davis and I've been saying for a long time that I'd take him over Drummond. Drummond doesn't play hard.

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From all accounts from coaches Drummond is a hard worker and a team player. However he tended to coast in some high school games and has been criticized for being passive, many young big men have been given that label over the years and while some of them did bust, some of them ended up being among the greatest players ever.

Now I know I'm going to get neg repped for this but I'm going to throw it out there. I realize that both these guys have a very, very long way to go before being mentioned in the same breath as an NBA great but in a few ways their situation mirrors that of two players about 15 years ago; Tim Duncan and Kevin Garnett.

Both players were born in the same year (like Drummond and Davis) and played the same position. Davis has a skillset wise more similiar to Garnett, long, athletic, defender than can play on the perimeter and in the post, some ball handling skill, intense and fiery personality.

Drummond has a couple things more in common with Duncan, yes he isn't as cerebral or fundamental and he's also a bit more athletic but there are similarities. Both have NBA ready bodies and the size to play center or PF in the NBA, both can pass out of the low post, both have highly skilled offensive games for big men, and ultimately both are criticized for being passive and not a "hard worker".

That's something that some people forget now that TD is considered the greatest PF of all time but when he was younger people looked at his on-court demeanor, his tendency to occasionally disappear in some games, and his inclination to get his teammates involved as a sign of weakness.

Duke center Greg Newton once said about Duncan that he was ``passive'' and ``soft'' and that the Wake center can turn his game off and on at will. If Duncan played hard all the time, he could be an ``unbelievable player,'' Newton was quoted as saying.

Just because Drummond might not be as fiery on the court, and doesn't demand the ball as much as some might (even though he's on team with Jeremy Lamb and Shabazz Napier to shoulder the scoring load), doesn't mean he is necessarily not a "hard worker".

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I hate to be that guy that

I hate to be that guy that throws out the "but they played hard" statement, but the Johnnies did play hard out there and gave it their all. Going up against that kind of talent, there was only so much we could do to contend for 40 whole min. But I love the direction the program is goin in and as early as next year we should be a way better team, and hope Lavin gets well soon. We knew this was gonna be a rough, transition year before the 3 kid were ruled ineligible, now w/o them, it'll be even more rocky. If we can get to 12 wins this year, I guess I'll be content.

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He is Marcus Camby mixed with

He is Marcus Camby mixed with a prime AK. The guy is everywhere and one of the best defenders I have ever seen.

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He is Marcus Camby mixed with

double post...

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actually i agree with the guy

actually i agree with the guy who said Anthony is raw..for example he got everything we expected from Perry last year but he just hadn't that motor and didn't get touches..

while for AD i watched as much of his hs highlights as i could and from what i have seen already in his college games i haven't seen those 3pointers guard-like step back fade away jumpers after dribble even his ball handling looked shaked a bit so far..

but on the other hand, he plays on the top2 deepest team by far and still scores 14 a game JUST BECAUSE of his motor length athleticism combination his defensive potential is crazy and i hope coach Cal wouldn't lie that much by saying Anthony is one of the best shooters in Kentucky...

thats let me hope his comparison is not only Camby/AK47 but C-Bosh offensively in addition too..

top3 LOCKED but Andre is still my guy and watch out for Perry if only he had AD's motor

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At this point Davis is the #1 pick

It is funny to me that people still mention Drummond or anyone else in the same sentence with Anthony Davis. This one isn't even close. Go out and google Anthony Davis+nba scouts you can't find one scout or gm that isn't gushing over Davis. At this point in the season Davis has run ahead of the group and Drummond, Barnes, Jones, and Sullinger are all battling for #2.

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I was a Davis hater. Mostly

I was a Davis hater. Mostly because everyone talked about his guard skills. i have never seen these so called guard skills. I think he is above average at his position at things guards do but he isn't elite.

All that being said, I really like Davis' game right now. There is something about him where he just gets the job done. His defense and rebounding are very good. I also think he has some offensive potential as well. I think eventually he will have a decent 18 foot jump shot and using that will open up some driving oppritunities for him. I don't think he is an elite offensive guy but with what he will bring on both sides of the ball one day, he should get consideration for the number 1 pick.

That being said, Drummond is still my number 1 pick at the moment.

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Key word is "at this point in

Key word is "at this point in the season". Davis is ahead because of his attitude/motor, but Drummond and PJ3 remain better prospects in terms of skill and physical gifts and it's still early days.

Jones absolutely dominated his first game back and if he can play anywhere near that level the rest of the season he should leapfrog both Davis and Drummond in the draft.

Drummond is playing with a broken nose right now, but still playing better as the season goes on.

I'm not a Davis hater, but I don't see the franchise changing first overall pick in him.

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but that eyebrow has so much

but that eyebrow has so much marketing potential

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^^ exactly

I see a top 5 pick but i do not see franchise player written on him. I don't see him being a Lamarcus aldridge or chris bosh type offensive player but i think he can be a better offensive player than Marcus Camby. i see the defensive comparison though.

What is the difference between John Henson & Anthony Davis? They seem similar to me. the only thing I can see different is that somehow Davis impacts the game more at the same stage(freshman)

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i guess i see the camby

i guess i see the camby comparison...even though camby was a center and davis will be a PF/SF...

i agree he may not be a franchise changer on offense...but if im a western team i think about drafting him just to guard Durant alone...this guy is a more athletic AK47 with WAY more potential...he will change a franchise on the defensive side and if he develops an offensive game, the sky is the limit...

i agree though that both Drummond and Perry Jones has a higher ceiling and more potential...but i think with Davis, you know what you are going to get and its not much of a gamble

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Come on... Be Real

Drummond has had forever to get used to his size. Davis has been 6-10 for all of a year. When he puts some meat on that frame, he will be unstoppable. I do think he needs to work on his post moves, but his outside jumper is not as bad as it appears. He doesn't get to shoot it that often in games, because it is unnecessary. Once he has had 3-4 years of this height, he will, hands down, be the best player this draft has.

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the difference between

the difference between Henson and Davis is that AD is already those 220 pounds and 2yrs younger and he much MUCH wider shoulders which let him gain another 20-30 pounds pretty naturally w/o losing athleticism..

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With Drummond it is past experience

In highschool the scout all said he has unlimited talent, but he doesn't go hard all the time. In college, we've seen this. Some plays, he's a beast, and others you forget he is on the floor. I'm not saying he has to dominate every possession, or even score tons, but it would be nice to see some hustle on a regular basis.

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Davis is raw on offense but

Davis is raw on offense but has the potential to eventually be a KG in the NBA. His motor is higher than Henson and he's younger so there is the difference. Henson does have a motor but if you watch he sometimes just jogs down the court. You watch AD and he is always running up and down the court. It's like he doesn't get tired either. He is dunking the ball in minute 35 just like minute one and dunking it like the rim is only 7 feet high.

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@itsDwightHoward... one of

@itsDwightHoward...

one of the best posts ive seen on this site so far...

+1 for sure...

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