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- Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 10:25am #11594
valentineanother big game for both teams. louisville plays tough full fourt defense and this is the game that walls turnovers could haunt him if he turns it over. another big game for the overrated (by some fans on here) demarcus cousins. we will see if he can up his averages (7ppg 7reb 3fouls against good/future pro big men/ranked teams) against yet another good batch of big men who are talented. his match up will be very interesting against samario samuels who leads the team in points and reb. i think kentucky will win sinc ei dont think louisville isnt real good liek they have been in the past but you never know with a rivalry game
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 10:28am #242924
JNixonParticipantI am a HUGE Peyton Siva guy…I hope hew plays so he can finally show a national audience how much potential he has. He’s going to be an interesting prospect in 2011 or 2012…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 10:31am #242927
Clyde-Glide10I’m interested to see Louisville’s big men.
Jennings and Samuels should have little issue against Cousins, Patterson and Orton
The Guards will need to step up. I think Preston Knowles will be on John Wall all day
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 10:32am #242928
JNixonParticipantI think Jerry Smith is the best on-ball defender in the nation too, just watch how he gets after it on D this game
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 10:46am #242932
quincey hodgeslol..man this game is a street ball game already..4 players already abou tto fight ..this is the perfect game to get couins out of the game because he doesnt play smart and lets his emotions get in the way..i dont even think a minute has gone by yet..tech on cousins..might get thrown out…1 turnover
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 10:49am #242933
beasyi agree cousins is overrated by some although he has talent and potential.. the move he just did with the elbow was just class less
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 10:52am #242934
beasybut i dont agree with what you said about louisville front line quincy. they arent that good defensively.. i watched a couple of there games and there big men play pretty bad defense esspecially samuels. thats a reason they run alot of zone. they arent even close down low to uconn or unc
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:00am #242937
MagikKnickParticipantThis game is intense, there were like 4 fouls in the first 30 seconds
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:02am #242939
IndianaBasketballParticipantLouisville looks scared out there… Kentucky is D’n up something fierce
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:05am #242940
beasylouisville doesnt have the offensive weapons to keep up wit kentucky
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:09am #242941
JNixonParticipantKentcuky is serious…..They are the better team. Lousville cannot score. What is Edgar Sosa doing. He needs to step up and lead this team, he’s the senior. Samuels is getting the shut down treatment rom Kentucky’s rontline. Their too athletic and long…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:14am #242942
IndianaBasketballParticipantEdgar Sosa is terrified right now. His swag is non-existant right now.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:20am #242944
quincey hodgesthat front line is too good for louisville but the guards is whats really hurting them because when they get it either wall or the other guard drops down. i notice those power moves cousins does against cupcakes dont work as well against good teams the 2 times blocked then the reverse airball
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:24am #242945
quincey hodgesthe funny thing is as good as uk defense has been and as bad as the cards have been playing they arent down by as much as they should be and yeah they do look scared. the cards guards look like they are in hs
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:25am #242946
MagikKnickParticipantWow..
7 minutes left in the 1st half, and L’Ville only scored 1 basket….Kentuckys bigs are just to much to handle for that louisville team
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:27am #242947
IndianaBasketballParticipantWall’s 3P shot is broke.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:29am #242949
BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant1-19 from the field, 10 turnovers to start. That is something.
Who is taller, Samardo Samuels or DeJuan Blair?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:30am #242950
Bryant24ParticipantWall really needs a jumper and cousins is a good player in only about six minutes he played he almost got a double double he can be a good player in kentuckys future and wall needs to break the defense down and drive to the basket
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:30am #242951
quincey hodgesthat zone is starting to work and the cards guards are gaining confidence. thats why you gotta kill a team early so they cant start to get confidence. they probably were saying in the huddle” we playing horrible but we arent down by that much fellas and we know we can play better”
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:31am #242952
IndianaBasketballParticipantThey both about 6′ 7″.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:34am #242954
quincey hodgesi spoke too soon about the guards.. they arent even hitting the rim when they drive in for layups.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:34am #242955
uoflcard5Participantneed to slow down and play at their own pace. and take good shots. Edgar sosa needs to slow it down
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:36am #242956
uoflcard5ParticipantWhat do yall think about preston knowles?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:36am #242957
uoflcard5ParticipantWhat do yall think about preston knowles?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:37am #242958
uoflcard5ParticipantWhat do yall think about preston knowles?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:38am #242959
quincey hodgesif patterson isnt a top 10 pick then people dont know basketball.. this guy has a nba body with a very nice jumper kinda like haslem except he can shoot it a lil depper and hes pretty athletic and has a nice post game.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:38am #242960
IndianaBasketballParticipantPatterson is really solid. I think he should be a late lottery to mid-first round pick. He’s undersized, but I think he has enough athleticism. I can see him playing the pick and pop game. He has the ability to put it on the floor and drive too.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:39am #242961
quincey hodgeswhat do i think of knwles?..i dont…i didnt even know who he was till you said something. pretty much no one for the cards have been really impressive so far
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:52am #242962
gatorheelsParticipantPreston Knowles is a really underrated player. Really really good on defense. I am a big fan of his. Hard worker that never gets any credit. Seems to have a great head on his shoulders.
This game should be close in the 2nd half because Louisville’s guards play tough defense which makes it tough for Kentucky to score. However, Kentucky will win a close one just because they have the edge in the post.
The length of Kentucky is bothering Lousiville’s guards. This has made it tough obviously for Smith & Sosa to score. Wall, Harris, Liggins, Miller, Dodson are all very tall/long Guards/SFs.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:56am #242965
JNixonParticipantJerry Smith is the best perimeter defender in college basketball. Even though Lousiville is playing bad, I have to let everyone know. I’m telling you, he might not be much offensively but he’s a tough defender. My comparison: Derek Fisher.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 11:56am #242966
lalailaParticipantstill think Cousins is big time talent!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:00pm #242968
JNixonParticipantLouisville’s role players are making there perimeter shots now! It may get interesting.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:06pm #242972
Clyde-Glide10I’m calling it right now
Kansas vs Kentucky in the Title Game
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:10pm #242973
IndianaBasketballParticipantCousins is a hot head
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:16pm #242975
quincey hodgesyeah cousins is a big time future/potential talent…not ready to contribute ont he nab level now and not as good as some on here think but hes still pretty good…i really like patterson though. hes the perfect high for a pf at 6’9 asnd i think theres not such thing as a undersized pf these days if you are taller then 6’6 . i think undersized for a position only should be used if the person is constantly out played by bigger players because of there height. plus the average hight for a pf is 6’9
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:18pm #242976
quincey hodgesyeah he is.. kinda reminds me of kendrick perkins with the attitude. the talent is there though as far asd potential
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:20pm #242978
quincey hodgesalthough i think hes might be closer to 6’8
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:20pm #242979
IndianaBasketballParticipantI think he’s closer to 6′ 8″, not 6′ 9″, but we’ll see when he gets measured at the combine. I really like him though. I wouldn’t be surprised if he went in the top 10.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:22pm #242981
IndianaBasketballParticipantHis wingspan doesn’t look like anything amazing for his height, so he could struggle guarding longer power forwards in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:23pm #242980
gatorheelsParticipantObservations:
Knowles is causing havoc on the defensive end.
I would like to see Siva shoot the ball some.
Sosa has been non-existent. Louisville needs him to score.
Liggins needs to get more playing time for Kentucky.
Cousins is Huge. He is a physical specimen & you can’t ignore the fact that he shoots a high percentage. Still he shoots 90% of the time he touches the ball. He has to learn to kick it out to the open man when he gets double teamed. Plus the way he acts is terrible. Everytime he gets bumped he has to retaliate. Basketball is a physical game, you are going to get hacked…especially when you are the biggest player on the court. He better get used to it & learn to control his emotions. NBA scouts have certainly taken notice. If it wasn’t for those issues Cousins would probably be a lock for the lottery I think.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:24pm #242982
gatorheelsParticipantHaha Sosa is starting to step up now once I called him out. It is about time.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:25pm #242983
FastAndFuriousParticipantIts pretty clear that wall and cousins will leave after this year…..
but bledsoe def could go to the league after next year i think
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:28pm #242985
quincey hodgesi agree about the height.. i dont think he will struggle because of his jumper.. anytime you have that jumper it opens up things alot kevin love has one of the shortest wingspans in the nab but can score because he can hit the midrange( on top of good offensive moves) and the nba isnt filled with great shot blockers….i like ortons potential also.. not really skilled as far as post moves but i can see him becoming something 3 years down the line
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:29pm #242986
gatorheelsParticipantBad turnover by Sosa.
Smith & Wall talking trash to each other LOL.
Smith better start shooting some 3’s.
Wall just hit a jumper right in Smith’s face.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:31pm #242987
IndianaBasketballParticipantI don’t think Patterson will struggle offensively because he can shoot… I said defensively. I think he could struggle defending longer guys.
I like Orton too. He could be a lottery prospect in a couple of seasons.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:33pm #242988
quincey hodgesoh defensively..yeah i can see in the beginning because he will be a rookie to the leauge but i dont think it will last too long because hes a good defender and moves his feet liek chuck hayes whos 6’6 with a short wing span but a good defender
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:37pm #242989
IndianaBasketballParticipantHayes is super strong though. I don’t know if Patterson has the kind of strength. He’s defending Samuels right now, so let’s see how he holds his ground.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:46pm #242991
quincey hodgesi remeber patterson coming out of hs people talked about how strong he was. although thats just hs. he works hard and he is above average athletically so i think he should be ok on defense. i like how samuels did that power moved and when there bodies collided pattersons didnt move. i think a player that plays with that intesnsity and has the physical tools can be a good defender and he’s always had that intensity. i see players liek cousins and other guys who dont really work to hard on defense having more of a issue with it. with defense you dont have to block shots to be a good defender if you work hard and beat a man to a spot
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:47pm #242992
quincey hodgesdid patterson drink sprite????..lol
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:47pm #242993
MagikKnickParticipant…Did Patterson just miss a dunk?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:48pm #242994
nl2niceParticipantimo i think patterson could turn into an amare stoudemire type player. both are aggresive going to the basket and patterson can shoot from 20 ft like stoudemire. i think he is a top 10 pick in june if kentucky is in the final four. cousins reminds me of a poor mans zach randolph he will end up being a late lottery pick.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:50pm #242996
quincey hodgeslol..yeah he missed it…got hung…trying to do the lebron dunk
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:51pm #242998
quincey hodgesnlnice i was thinking the same thing about cousins..he could be a power mans zach or possibley almost as good as zach. he has moves but not as many as zach had at that point
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:52pm #242999
IndianaBasketballParticipantWhoa… Stoudemire? That’s too much lol. If we just stick to being able to shoot from 20 feet like Stoudemire, then sure. Nothing else though.
He just got hung lol. That’s embarrassing. Cousins got hung not too long ago too… He’s not explosive at all.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:54pm #243000
IndianaBasketballParticipantI don’t see Z-Bo in him at all. Z-Bo was so much more skilled around the basket and he had a higher offensive IQ. Cousins is a power player with a low IQ.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 12:55pm #243001
quincey hodgesi do hope cousins doesnt decide to go to the draft. he’s good but just isnt ready. one more year and i think he could come in and start. he comes out now hes looking at a year of splinters because nothing he does really translates to the nba right now. hes a good rebounder but its more from his size then actually boxing anyone out. but i be damn if the potential isnt there
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 1:01pm #243003
nl2niceParticipanti agree tezo83 that patterson isnt his clone but they have a similar game. patterson is more aggresive on the boards tho. i think with a good work ethic he could be as good as STAT
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 1:03pm #243004
Bryant24Participantyeah cousins has the potential he really isnt athletic at all or explosive but he got a big body and he know how to use it and i like the fact he dont back down from anybody he can be good in the future he reminds me of a young jermanine o’neal
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 1:04pm #243005
quincey hodgesas good as stats???..i mean anything is possible but i dont see that in him. my opinion is he could be as good as david lee. and i think lee is good but not as good as his stats show with the knicks because of the coaches style and because the team isnt that good. lee on a good team is a third option hortford production player
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 1:06pm #243006
nl2niceParticipantand i agree wit you quincy. cousins should stay but i doubt it. randolph left after his freshman year i believe..don’t quote me on that tho and they almost are playing the same way but randolphs post game was far superior than cousins
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 1:16pm #243008
lalailaParticipanti also thought about Bynum comparsons but he isn’t ready to be comparing with him…
i’m not overrating Cousins but i’m against ppl who underrating him lol…he decisions and post game sometimes looks bad enough to be 1 rounder but when he uses his strength and when he is not lazy to defend he is something little dominant! i really think next season he could be huge and go very high in the draft, he and Bledsoe could be next season’s booom because no they are just in Wall’s and Patt’s shadows.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 1:19pm #243007
gatorheelsParticipantWhat about a Cousins/Bynum comparison? Or maybe even a Cousins/Horford comparison?
I see Cousins as a Center in the NBA so I was trying to find a close comparison. I haven’t watched Bynum much at all this season.
I saw Horford play his Freshman year at Florida in person & I have also watched Cousins in person once this season. Horford was more impressive as a Freshman by a little. Horford wasn’t relied on as much though like Cousins is in his 1st year in college.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 1:20pm #243009
nl2niceParticipanthorford plays more aggresive than cousins. and i don’t see bynum in cousins game. cousins can shoot from the perimeter if he wanted too but calipari isn’t having that. cousins is a good offensive big guy which is why he reminds me of zach randolph. the nba will allow him to show it. he just needs to up his bball iq and become more aggresive consistently
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 2:47pm #243022
finneganParticipantwhats the new excuses by the cousins haters?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 2:53pm #243024
JNixonParticipantCousins reminds me of Al Horford.
Patterson reminds me of David Lee.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 7:20pm #243113
UKWildcat_11Participant(Replying to a few comments on the first page)
First of all, the reason Cousins was getting chippy was because they were already jawing at him in the tunnel during the run out plus he got kneed in the head going for the loose ball.
And Clyde-Glide, did I just hear you say Jennings and Samuels should have no trouble against our (UK’s) frontcourt? Wow. Cousins and Orton may be pretty slow on their feet, but they are both defensive forces, and Patterson is a warrior inside. You won’t get anything, ANYTHING easy on him.
Btw, I like the comparisons of Patrick to David Lee. Never thought about that one..
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/02/2010 - 7:41pm #243129
OrangeJuiceJonesParticipantThat was an ugly, ugly first half of basketball. You had DeMarcus Cousins testing out his new Muay Thai moves, brick after brick after brick after brick after missed shot, and to top it off, U.K looked like they were gonna break away at any second. I was ready to play some Modern Warfare 2. UNTIL….
The 2nd half began, which was obviously a much better half of basketball. John Wall looked like he was still playing against a bunch of slow-footed high schoolers at times, and I love the way he took over when his team needed him the most. I think Patrick Patterson is gonna be a steal in the NBA if falls below the 20th pick. He’s more athletic than he looks (and he looks like a pretty good athlete), he’s a tenacious defender and rebounder, and he just finds ways to put the ball in the basket. Swopshire tried his best to keep Louisville in the game by hitting a few outside shots, but his teammates literally threw the game away.
On another note, I don’t like what Rick Pitino has done to Edgar Sosa. I watched multiple Rice games while he was in high school, and the dude was a flat-out scorer. He went to Louisville to try and become a true point guard, thereby enhancing his NBA stock, but he just never had it in him. Both Pitino and Sosa should have seen the obvious by the end of his sophomore year, but instead kept trying to force him to play out of position. Sure, he’s only 6’2 at the most, but if he added a little bit of muscle and continued to work on his outside shot, who knows?
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