[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Probably the best matchup on paper than any game that could happen in the tourney.

Great matchups all across the board.

[montauriush4Participant]

Only way for baylor to win is get the ball down low to Perry Jones, Quincy Miller, and Quincy Acy and let them go to work but it aint going to be easy with Anthony Davis, Terrence Jones, and MKG

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Yea Perry Jones has got to step up, I love Pierre Jackson’s game I really do, but PJ3 can’t defer to him today.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Baylors length looking like a problem for UK

[JoeWolf1]

Quincey Acy just doesn’t stop. He’s flat out going at Davis, even after he got his shot blocked the possession before.

[jeff416Participant]

I’m very impressed with Baylor so far. As of right now there length and athleticism looks like it is causing problems for Kentucky. Its still early though.

[MalcolmxParticipant]

 I can’t picture one team athleticism causing problems for the other because their athletcism is matched up sort of evenly. I think it boils down to the point guards. Will Pierre control the show or will Teague be a boss today.I think who ever facilitates the best and takes of the ball most will come away with a victory

[surveParticipant]

 watch out for Bello’s development in the next couple of years as a prospect.  pretty raw right now, but defense is his foundation.

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

Perry Jones looks suspect, they just aren’t utilizing him well, Quincy Miller needs to work off of screens and use his length to get his jumpshot off

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Pierre Jackson attacking with no plan, very out of control early.

[uknationParticipant]

Want to know how  P Jones will look when he gets in the NBA. You are witnessing it!!!!!!

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

I keep saying Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is the most complete basketball player in the country that jumper will come 

[surveParticipant]

 yeah, I hate to say this because I really admire the job Drew has done building Baylor into a power, but I am not sold on him as an in-game coach.  I think Baylor has been getting by with athleticism.  PJII hasnt looked comfortable in a lot of games, and when he steps out on the perimeter…it takes away from their offensive board work.  As talented as UK is, Baylor still should not get blown out by them….but if they dont be careful they will.

[akhan786Participant]

Does anyone see any similarities between Deuce Bello and Tony Allen? I can definitely see Bello finding a niche in the league on his defense and athleticism.

[surveParticipant]

 I just dont see why so many people dont think MKG has star potential in the NBA.   I think he will eventually join guys like LBJ and Rondo as far as being another triple double producer.

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 UK playing really good

[surveParticipant]

 its too early for the Allen comparison.  Bello could be better though if he develops his offense, particularly his shooting.  I think he is just as athletic, but he looks longer than T.A. definitely not as strong though.  T.A. was really able to bother K.D. last year in the playoffs.  Bello is probably better suited to defend against guards.  He should be a good rebounder from the guard spot.

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

Terrence Jones has 5 rebs and 6 ast, thats what I love about Kentucky they are the most unselfish team in the country, Jones is know for being a force getting buckets but no he’s letting MKG and AD work 

[tuck243Participant]

Give the ball to Q. Miller, Perry Jones looking to pass as soon as he touches it…   With Miller at least he was getting good shots…

Another thing why Ant. Davis is so good he made Terrance Jones a defensive player…  Look at how he just blocking those shots…  I might be incline to take him over a few other bigs in this draft… 

[surveParticipant]

 I dont know if you guys feel this way, but from watching Miller this year, it seems to me he has a mean streak.  

[akhan786Participant]

MKG 17 points…. Baylor 17 points…

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Yooo man if anybody doubted MKG, you better think again!

[surveParticipant]

 one on one play from Baylor, forcing shots….no patience….ball movement…etc…etc…etc…

also, nearly all of UK’s biggest games have been MKG’s best performances.  he really shines against top level competition.

[river09Participant]

If Davis isn’t just spotting up from 16-20 ft he just sits on the baseline behind the backboard and waits for his defender to play help defense on someone driving and just looks for a toss for him to dunk uncontested. It’s almost cherry picking, great offense no doubt, but Davis is getting way too much credit for it.. Any player who can get off the floor quickly would be very effective in his role. With Kentucky having so many offensive weapons it’s impossible to defend because you have to help on any of their players when they drive. I cannot wait until Davis goes up against the NBA’s strongest and quickest PF’s who don’t abandon him on defense, it will be a rude awakening.. 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Perry Jones: 2 points, 1 rebound at half-time.  He’s obviouly given up, maybe a break here at half-time gets something working in his brain.

[rtbtParticipant]

Baylor is obviously in over their head. They have about a dozen turnovers which led to numerous easy, wide open shots. And on offense, Baylor is completely lost. They lost their poise early in the half and have been pitiful since the 5 minute mark in the game.

As for defense, they’re worse than they are on offense. It’s hard to imagine Baylor getting back in the game, let alone winning it.

[NotHamedHaddadiParticipant]

Pierre Jackson seems to be the only one who cares anymore for Baylor

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

river

Davis actually has a couple of post moves.  Hell, he probably has more post moves than Dwight Howard does now (I know that’s not saying much considering the fact that Dwight only has about 2 post moves).  He just doesn’t post up that often, not to mention, he’s a good passer from the top of the key and the low block and is a good ball-handler for his size.

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

I know most say he’s just a great recruiter BUT he truly gets the most out of his players. Davis’ jumpshot is much improved from the start of the year, Teague looks like a true PG out there attacking and looking to set guys up, MKG is MKG, Lamb is Lamb BUT Jones looks like an animal he’s doing everything and truly is still a top 10 pick in my book 

[surveParticipant]

 u make a good point, but by that same token, Davis as a PF could be a tremendous weakside shotblocker in the NBA.  It will depend on the teams of course and the matchups.   it will be really easy for him to rack up blocks with help defense if the guy he is guarding cant truly make him pay.  Like teams with a really good offensive C and PF, he wont get away with it.  A team like OKC for instance though, he could reak havoc against with help defense.

[OldSkoolBasketballParticipant]

I’m really disappointed in Perry Jones. To think I was once high on him too. 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Look at Baylor’s guard play…Pierre Jackson needs to have the ball taken out of his hands, Heslip can’t get open at all, Duece Bello ahs made some dumb plays like trying to dunk over T. Jones when he could have layed it up…

Acy and Jones III are the only two Baylor players playing hard…Jones needs to demand the ball by all accounts and that is a sign that he may defer too much, but he’s not the Head Coach, That’s Drew’s job to get him the ball on Offense…The Baylor offense struggles when They stop moving the Ball and they allow Pierre Jackson to play Hero Ball…

It’s not Perry’s fault you Assholes saying he’s going to be a bust, and look at what he’s going to do in the NBA…

He’s out there doing fine considering they’ve given him the ball 5 times total… 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Jones is playing hard?  Dude has more turnovers than total points scored.

"How many TO’s does [Pierre Jackson] have"

The same amount of turnovers than Perry Jones.  Each have three, combined 66% of the teams total turnovers.

[river09Participant]

 I’m not disputing Davis’ weakside shot blocking ability which will be effective, not as good as it is in college but still good..

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Now imagine if Perry Jones had half the heart and motor that MKG has..

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

 Can’t any of you see what the hell he’s doing out there…How many TO’s does he have…To hell with Perry Jones’ statline, how many TO’s do the Bears have, namely Pierre Jackson and Duece Bello, I know Perry got one when he passed out of a Post Up opportunity against Davis…

 

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Perry Jones is playing toooo soft in the biggest game of his life!

O wait, I forgot he’s only averaging 7 points per game during the tourney, this the norm!

Give it up guys, this dude just aint got the heart, his coach says he’s going to be REAL GOOD when he’s 25.

What about now?

[DurantsWingspan]

I’ve had Terrence Jones top 5 all year. I know people say that he has attitude problems, but I have watched every Kentucky game all year and trust me, if anything it is a competitive fire. He listens to his coach as much as anyone and Coach Cal goes harder on him than anyone else. And he never gives his coach a problem. He always takes it as a challenge when Cal puls him and screams at him. He never gives him a problem back, but goes out on the court and plays like an animal. I think he has not only an NBA body, but a great NBA body, quick, strong, athletic, a good 3 point shot, ballhandling, passing, amazing defense both in the post and on the wing. Sometimes you just see the desire in his eyes and he plays like an animal like today. I just don’t understand why this site has him as like 18th. I have him at 3rd-5th right now. Everyone says about MKG’s motor but Jones’ motor should not go under the boat. I don’t get what makes Harrison Barnes so much better than Terrence Jones? Someone?

[JNixonParticipant]

 Kentucky are you serious?? Crazy talent man. Crazy. They are probably the most athletic team I’ve seen in college.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

 one is a Killer, the other is a Roster filler…

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

They might have 6 1st round picks

Davis, Jones, Teague, MKG and Lamb are no doubt 1st rounders if they come out, Miller could be a late 1st rounder for a vet team like the Spurs who draft guys like that 

[rtbtParticipant]

Baylor is obviously in over their head. They have about a dozen turnovers which led to numerous easy, wide open shots. And on offense, Baylor is completely lost. They lost their poise early in the half and have been pitiful since the 5 minute mark in the game.

As for defense, they’re worse than they are on offense. It’s hard to imagine Baylor getting back in the game, let alone winning it. How many more wide open shots will they give up?

So yes Kentucky is fabulous but Baylor’s making it easy for them.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 It’s kind of funny considering their frequent struggles in the half-court offense, but they run really good offensive plays from under the baseline.  They have gotten dunks, lay-ups, or open jumpers on almost every in-bounds play from the baseline in their last two tournament games, especially.

Baylor is just getting outclassed.  Quincy Acy and Quincy Miller are playing hard, but otherwise Baylor seems scared.  Pierre Jackson is playing out-of-control, although he always seems to play right on the edge, and Perry Jones III appears nonexistent.  PJIII never seems to make any impact when he faces NBA level competition.  

I think this game will help put to rest the claims that PJIII has more potential than any other likely 2012 draft pick.  At the very least, Anthony Davis has greater defensive AND offensive potential than PJIII.  He is obviously longer and much more of a difference maker on each end of the floor.  

[river09Participant]

@Tongue_out_like_23

You honestly believe Davis will be able to use those post moves in the NBA when he’s giving up 50+ pounds to every opponent who happens to be just as explosive/quick and almost if not as long as he is? He may gain weight in time, I’ll give you that. But I don’t see him adding the 40 or 50 lbs so that he could become a pounding post player… He could become a more athletic Channing Frye esque from range and mid-range, with great weakside shot blocking which in the long run I think will be his role… 

I can’t help but thinking any opposing coach in the NBA will just looking at his team before the game and say "Okay, give the ball to (insert PF’s name here) all night and he can back that skinny guy out of the gym…"

[seniokasParticipant]

To someone who said that Perry didn’t get enough touches. In this game he got many touches the problem is instead of making something he just kicks the ball out. They make ISO for him to play but he just kicks out every time. I haven’t had the opportunity to watch him much but from what I have seen he is just awfully soft both physically and mentally.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

river09

Wasn’t Chris Bosh as thin as him in college, averaged 22-9 in his 3rd season.  

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

You never wanna see any college player get injured.  NBA prospect or not, they’re out there to have fun and a lot of the time they don’t even have the money to pay for the health and physical issues they may suffer after they’re collegiate career is over.

[lalailaParticipant]

what a bad moment…….. 

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Perry Jones not hurt lol he just don’t want anymore negative criticism so he checkin out early lmaooooo

[NotHamedHaddadiParticipant]

Oh god, Anthony Davis and Perry Jones III collide, doesn’t look good for Davis

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Why would you check in?  You’re up by 20 and you’re going to put your future on the line like this?  I’d rather he sit out a couple more minutes until he feels 100%.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 Scary moment for NBA teams.  Two lottery picks come up gimpy on one play.  Lucky, it seems like PJIII just tightened up after the collision and Davis looks OK, considering the possibility for a ligament tear.

 

 

[lalailaParticipant]

man, Davis is a warrior , he checks in!!! 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Yeah, I know what you mean.  He really wants to be out there and show his team that he’s there for them.  

[Charlie SheenParticipant]

 Baylor is a poor mans Kentucky, if I’m down 19 in my last game of the year I’m fightin til the end

[lalailaParticipant]

 yes it’s actually a bad decision you can see he still feels big pain but i was talking only about his character kid just wants to play so bad

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

The only reason he’s not the go-to-guy is because that team is so stacked.  I mean seriously, who is Kentucky’s go-to-guy?  MKG could be the go-to-guy.  T-Jones can.  Anthony Davis can.  Teague can.  Hell, even Doron Lamb at times.

[river09Participant]

Tongue-Out-Like-23

Yes Bosh has developed well but he has always been a go-to scorer and was very efficient scoring from all areas of the floor in his time at GT, Davis meanwhile has yet to prove he’s go-to guy. 

[ChrisCrossParticipant]

 After this game, I would not draft Perry Jones in the lotto, this is the last straw.

[bdiddy5115Participant]

Jones showing random flashes

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Perry Jones REAL agressive while Anthony Davis has ONE LEG.

Lol what a joke man

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

The Baylor guards have finally started passing him the ball, and he’s being very aggressive with the ball when he gets it…The TO’s he had in the 1st half were because he tried to pass out when he should have taken it strong…

When Perry plays aggressive he’s A top teir prospect, keep hating mother fuckers because Perry is over powering Davis down low…He’s helping Baylor make a run here in the 2nd half…

Keep on talking trash, he’s going top 10 if you like it or not 

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 Lol damn you mad? I’ve never denied his talent, he’s just soft.

Perry Jones is averaging 7 points during the tourney 

Suck on that lol better yet explain that.

 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

And FYI, he’s still performing very well given the circumstance…Scouts are actually very Impressed with his play in the 2nd half… 

[MKG_AllDayParticipant]

 the only thing that is keeping Baylor in the game is Fouls and Davis’s knee

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 I’m not about to argue with you about PJ3, I’ll wait til he’s 25 lmaoooooooo

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 Why is Davis still in the game with less than 2 minutes to go and a 14 point lead? What do the coaches think happened to him that made him clutch he knee in pain? He didn’t bang it against something on that play. If that trainer thinks he fixed something by rubbing some icy-hot ointment on Davis’s knee, that trainer needs to go back to school. 

I know Kentucky only goes 7 deep, but seriously, they still can’t get Davis out of the game?

I guess the thought is he only has 3 games left in his career as far as Kentucky is concerned. 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

 When Perry Jones is 25 he’ll be an NBA player making millions of dollars, where will you be youngdave???

Jones and Acy are The only Baylor players that have made any Impact, Jackson has only scored on broken plays…

what game are you watching??? Did you see Jones overpower Davis on 3 possessions and hit a nice fade away post shot over Terrence Jones, what about that nice pass to get Heslip his only good looking shot thus far???

I forgot you’re head is up your ass and you cant see…

FYI I stopped watching the Game, my kids want to watch Dora The Explorer…

[DurantsWingspan]

U da man scarecrow! Hahah

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

 You know someone is taking it to heart when they ask you what will you be doing when your 25 lol butthurt, but for your INFO when i’m 25 hopefully i’ll be overseas playing basketball, pretty good at bball just in case you wanted to know might even play in the NBA one day who knows.

I’m not commneting on PJ3 my minds already made up on him, I’ve seen the same thing for TWO YEARS straight.

[ChrisCrossParticipant]

 Too bad none of Jones’s production came in the 1st half when Baylor needed it

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

"You know someone is taking it to heart when they ask you what will you be doing when your 25 lol butthurt"

Yeah, I know right?  It’s obvious he’ll be maing millions of dollars, that doesn’t stop critics.  Hell, LeBron James has made hundreds of millions and is still criticized.  How does that change anything?  That argument is baseless, senseless, and unimportant. 

[uknationParticipant]

 UK always makes teams look like they aren’t that good on defense or not that good on offense.   

Duke you say Davis only scores in those ways but he actually has post moves. UK offens is based on movement though.  Also I think Shawn Marion has made a great living doing what you say Davis can only do. A Allstar for a couple years as a matter of fact. 

 

Scarecrow it is PJ3’s fault. He plays too soft most of the time and has a low motor. If he doesn’t get the ball why doesn’t he go get the offensive rebound?  Post up harder or flash to the ball. These are things stars do. hell Acy isn’t as skilled but he goes hard and depends the ball and posts up hard

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

Exactly he taking it personal, it’s just a debate, lol Perry Jones doesn’t even know who he is,but he over there taking this personal about me talking bout a basketball player he likes.

 

 

[apb540Participant]

Harrison Barnes is a better prospect than Terrance Jones because he has a more complete offensive game and is not a tweener.  I think T-Jones has very good potential and would be a great 6th man in the NBA a la Thad Young, but Harrison Barnes has the ability to come in as a starter from day one and drop 20 PPG within a year or two of being in the NBA. 

[DurantsWingspan]

And I know those are what the scouts say, but I think Terrence Jones can do the same thing while being more versatile in defense, post game, passing, etc.

[surveParticipant]

 While I do agree that Barnes is a better prospect, I dont necessarily by that Jones is a tweener.  I think he is a legit PF but will be able to play SF as well.

I wouldnt get too overly hyped about college play.   Roy Williams system and lack of half court game is not suited to Barnes offensive style….he will be better in the NBA with spacing and man defense.   He likely will be a 20 plus scorer in the NBA.  Even in that system, where he thrives in transition but struggles in half court….he has not been dominant but very consistent.  Some players are just going to be better pros.  

Jones will be good in his own right but a different type player….I still dont like how Jones reacts and disappears sometimes when the game is not in his teams favor…..whereas a player like MKG tends to be in beast mode all the time and actually MKG goes even harder when his team is in jeopardy.

[Future_Scout]

 THANKS FOR THIS THREAD!!!!!!!!!

i missed the game smh….. 

[apb540Participant]

I don’t see Jones has a "legit" Power Forward because I don’t think he can play the four on a full-time basis.  What I mean by that is I do not see Jones starting at PF and playing 30+ mpg at that position in the NBA.  Same thoughts on Jones playing the 3 full-time.  However, I think that this can be a very positive thing for an NBA team.  I mentioned Thad Young earlier because I see some similarities in both of their abilities to use their height/quickness combo as a mismatch in the pros.

Honestly, Jones and Barnes are not that similar of pospects.  One is a 3/2 while the other is a 4/3 and they both have different things that they do well.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Jackson has bad shot selection. Don’t like drew as a offensive coach. 17 and 8 for PJIII not bad. Would have told him to jack more. His best tourney game vs best competition. Don’t understand the hate on that kid.

[DurantsWingspan]

I think that Jones has pretty much every skill that Barnes has except even some more. I am a real big Barnes fan as UNC is always my favorite team,  but I’ve been a huge fan of this Kentucky team this year as well. Thad Young isn’t really too similar to Terrence Jones besides that they are both athletic and play the 3/4. The thing is with Thad Young, he doesn’t have the perimeter skills for the 3, and doesn’t have the size for the 4, thus leaving him as a tweener. It is different when you have the size to play the PF, but play the small forward because you have tremendous versatility. Thad Young measured in at 6’5 and 3/4 and 210 pounds. So that is a 6’7 210 player. Jones is 6’9 and 250-255. That is DEFINITELY not an undersized PF. To call him a tweener is crazy. He can play both positions, but he is by no means a tweener. If any comparison would be fair I guess it would be Derrick Williams, although Jones is way better defensively. I mean I don’t want to say that Barnes is overhyped because I’ve been a HUGE fan for a while, but he has disappointed me slightly. He didn’t improve over the offseason as much as I would have wanted. That being said, I still see him easily as a top 5 pick and am not saying Jones is better than him, because I think Barnes skills will translate well to the league, but I think they are about the same. I have Davis first, MKG second, and then I have Drummond, Jones, and Barnes tied for my third prospect. I know it is not a popular pick, but it is one I will hold true to and believe. I love Kidd-Gilchrist as well, even more than Jones, it just seems like sometimes there are biases that fans subconsiously believe. Like I see all the time how people say that Kidd-Gilchrist never drifts out of games, but Jones does all the time. This is simply not true. I see many games where Kidd-Gilchrist will pretty much drift out of the game and see him end a half with 2 points or even 0. The reality is EVERY young prospect not names Anthony Davis has games where they drift out of. But to claim Jones drifts out all the time and MKG never does is complete bogus, because I watched EVERY SINGLE Kentucky game all year long thoroughly and I will tell you that MKG and Terrence Jones have been equal in this department and pretty much equal overall, MKG getting the advantage being a year younger.

[uknationParticipant]

 Not scoring doesn’t mean you drift out of games.  MKG may not score sometimes but he still hustles,plays tough defense and rebounds.  You must not watch many UK games early in the season because Jones drifted out a couple of times where he didn’t play defense or offense nor did he rebound (first Indiana game is a great example) but near the end of the regular season until now he has stepped it up as well as the rest of the team

[Future_Scout]

 "To someone who said that Perry didn’t get enough touches. In this game he got many touches the problem is instead of making something he just kicks the ball out. They make ISO for him to play but he just kicks out every time. I haven’t had the opportunity to watch him much but from what I have seen he is just awfully soft both physically and mentally."

its been happening! 

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

Some of you would make poor scouts. I suspect NBA scouts like what they see in PJIII. I look forward to this next season. Liking and playing basketball does not mean you know how to scout. PJIII is going top 5.

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

PJ3 needs to fall to a team in the late lotto/teens.  He’d go great in Phoenix if Nash returns, but he’s going to need the right system and organization to be anything but Tim Thomas 2.0.

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