Kentucky vs Baylor Game Thread
I can't picture one team athleticism causing problems for the other because their athletcism is matched up sort of evenly. I think it boils down to the point guards. Will Pierre control the show or will Teague be a boss today.I think who ever facilitates the best and takes of the ball most will come away with a victory
yeah, I hate to say this because I really admire the job Drew has done building Baylor into a power, but I am not sold on him as an in-game coach. I think Baylor has been getting by with athleticism. PJII hasnt looked comfortable in a lot of games, and when he steps out on the perimeter...it takes away from their offensive board work. As talented as UK is, Baylor still should not get blown out by them....but if they dont be careful they will.
its too early for the Allen comparison. Bello could be better though if he develops his offense, particularly his shooting. I think he is just as athletic, but he looks longer than T.A. definitely not as strong though. T.A. was really able to bother K.D. last year in the playoffs. Bello is probably better suited to defend against guards. He should be a good rebounder from the guard spot.
Give the ball to Q. Miller, Perry Jones looking to pass as soon as he touches it... With Miller at least he was getting good shots...
Another thing why Ant. Davis is so good he made Terrance Jones a defensive player... Look at how he just blocking those shots... I might be incline to take him over a few other bigs in this draft...
If Davis isn't just spotting up from 16-20 ft he just sits on the baseline behind the backboard and waits for his defender to play help defense on someone driving and just looks for a toss for him to dunk uncontested. It's almost cherry picking, great offense no doubt, but Davis is getting way too much credit for it.. Any player who can get off the floor quickly would be very effective in his role. With Kentucky having so many offensive weapons it's impossible to defend because you have to help on any of their players when they drive. I cannot wait until Davis goes up against the NBA's strongest and quickest PF's who don't abandon him on defense, it will be a rude awakening..
Baylor is obviously in over their head. They have about a dozen turnovers which led to numerous easy, wide open shots. And on offense, Baylor is completely lost. They lost their poise early in the half and have been pitiful since the 5 minute mark in the game.
As for defense, they're worse than they are on offense. It's hard to imagine Baylor getting back in the game, let alone winning it.
u make a good point, but by that same token, Davis as a PF could be a tremendous weakside shotblocker in the NBA. It will depend on the teams of course and the matchups. it will be really easy for him to rack up blocks with help defense if the guy he is guarding cant truly make him pay. Like teams with a really good offensive C and PF, he wont get away with it. A team like OKC for instance though, he could reak havoc against with help defense.
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Davis actually has a couple of post moves. Hell, he probably has more post moves than Dwight Howard does now (I know that's not saying much considering the fact that Dwight only has about 2 post moves). He just doesn't post up that often, not to mention, he's a good passer from the top of the key and the low block and is a good ball-handler for his size.
I know most say he's just a great recruiter BUT he truly gets the most out of his players. Davis' jumpshot is much improved from the start of the year, Teague looks like a true PG out there attacking and looking to set guys up, MKG is MKG, Lamb is Lamb BUT Jones looks like an animal he's doing everything and truly is still a top 10 pick in my book
Look at Baylor's guard play...Pierre Jackson needs to have the ball taken out of his hands, Heslip can't get open at all, Duece Bello ahs made some dumb plays like trying to dunk over T. Jones when he could have layed it up...
Acy and Jones III are the only two Baylor players playing hard...Jones needs to demand the ball by all accounts and that is a sign that he may defer too much, but he's not the Head Coach, That's Drew's job to get him the ball on Offense...The Baylor offense struggles when They stop moving the Ball and they allow Pierre Jackson to play Hero Ball...
It's not Perry's fault you &$#%#&@! saying he's going to be a bust, and look at what he's going to do in the NBA...
He's out there doing fine considering they've given him the ball 5 times total...
Can't any of you see what the hell he's doing out there...How many TO's does he have...To hell with Perry Jones' statline, how many TO's do the Bears have, namely Pierre Jackson and Duece Bello, I know Perry got one when he passed out of a Post Up opportunity against Davis...
Perry Jones is playing toooo soft in the biggest game of his life!
O wait, I forgot he's only averaging 7 points per game during the tourney, this the norm!
Give it up guys, this dude just aint got the heart, his coach says he's going to be REAL GOOD when he's 25.
What about now?
I've had Terrence Jones top 5 all year. I know people say that he has attitude problems, but I have watched every Kentucky game all year and trust me, if anything it is a competitive fire. He listens to his coach as much as anyone and Coach Cal goes harder on him than anyone else. And he never gives his coach a problem. He always takes it as a challenge when Cal puls him and screams at him. He never gives him a problem back, but goes out on the court and plays like an animal. I think he has not only an NBA body, but a great NBA body, quick, strong, athletic, a good 3 point shot, ballhandling, passing, amazing defense both in the post and on the wing. Sometimes you just see the desire in his eyes and he plays like an animal like today. I just don't understand why this site has him as like 18th. I have him at 3rd-5th right now. Everyone says about MKG's motor but Jones' motor should not go under the boat. I don't get what makes Harrison Barnes so much better than Terrence Jones? Someone?
Baylor is obviously in over their head. They have about a dozen turnovers which led to numerous easy, wide open shots. And on offense, Baylor is completely lost. They lost their poise early in the half and have been pitiful since the 5 minute mark in the game.
As for defense, they're worse than they are on offense. It's hard to imagine Baylor getting back in the game, let alone winning it. How many more wide open shots will they give up?
So yes Kentucky is fabulous but Baylor's making it easy for them.
It's kind of funny considering their frequent struggles in the half-court offense, but they run really good offensive plays from under the baseline. They have gotten dunks, lay-ups, or open jumpers on almost every in-bounds play from the baseline in their last two tournament games, especially.
Baylor is just getting outclassed. Quincy Acy and Quincy Miller are playing hard, but otherwise Baylor seems scared. Pierre Jackson is playing out-of-control, although he always seems to play right on the edge, and Perry Jones III appears nonexistent. PJIII never seems to make any impact when he faces NBA level competition.
I think this game will help put to rest the claims that PJIII has more potential than any other likely 2012 draft pick. At the very least, Anthony Davis has greater defensive AND offensive potential than PJIII. He is obviously longer and much more of a difference maker on each end of the floor.
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You honestly believe Davis will be able to use those post moves in the NBA when he's giving up 50+ pounds to every opponent who happens to be just as explosive/quick and almost if not as long as he is? He may gain weight in time, I'll give you that. But I don't see him adding the 40 or 50 lbs so that he could become a pounding post player... He could become a more athletic Channing Frye esque from range and mid-range, with great weakside shot blocking which in the long run I think will be his role...
I can't help but thinking any opposing coach in the NBA will just looking at his team before the game and say "Okay, give the ball to (insert PF's name here) all night and he can back that skinny guy out of the gym..."
To someone who said that Perry didn't get enough touches. In this game he got many touches the problem is instead of making something he just kicks the ball out. They make ISO for him to play but he just kicks out every time. I haven't had the opportunity to watch him much but from what I have seen he is just awfully soft both physically and mentally.
You never wanna see any college player get injured. NBA prospect or not, they're out there to have fun and a lot of the time they don't even have the money to pay for the health and physical issues they may suffer after they're collegiate career is over.
Probably the best matchup on paper than any game that could happen in the tourney.
Great matchups all across the board.