[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-abdul-jabbar-boystown

I tend to agree with him… It would benefit both college basketball and the NBA.

[llperez]

I disagree. Lots of guys are capable of playing in the nba after 1 year removed from highschool. Im all for the 1 year, but anymore then that and i think they are infringing on the players rights. Plus it just doesnt make any sense to keep the number of elite level players who are contributing at 19 and 20 out of the league.

[llperez]

I disagree. Lots of guys are capable of playing in the nba after 1 year removed from highschool. Im all for the 1 year, but anymore then that and i think they are infringing on the players rights. Plus it just doesnt make any sense to keep the number of elite level players who are contributing at 19 and 20 out of the league.

[llperez]

I disagree. Lots of guys are capable of playing in the nba after 1 year removed from highschool. Im all for the 1 year, but anymore then that and i think they are infringing on the players rights. Plus it just doesnt make any sense to keep the number of elite level players who are contributing at 19 and 20 out of the league.

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

a lot of them go prematurely to the NBA because of the $$$… But I mean, you can’t tell me a couple more years of college wouldn’t have benefited a guy like Beasley, Rose/Evans could’ve developed a better jumper, Thabeet would’ve had an extra yr… Plus it’d be fun because all these stars would be playing eachother in college and in the tourney– that would probably make the already most exciting basketball month that much more exciting.

And they would come to the NBA more mature and ready to go. The example he uses is LeBron and how he would’ve benefited from college from a maturity stand-point and it’s hard to disagree

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

a lot of them go prematurely to the NBA because of the $$$… But I mean, you can’t tell me a couple more years of college wouldn’t have benefited a guy like Beasley, Rose/Evans could’ve developed a better jumper, Thabeet would’ve had an extra yr… Plus it’d be fun because all these stars would be playing eachother in college and in the tourney– that would probably make the already most exciting basketball month that much more exciting.

And they would come to the NBA more mature and ready to go. The example he uses is LeBron and how he would’ve benefited from college from a maturity stand-point and it’s hard to disagree

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

a lot of them go prematurely to the NBA because of the $$$… But I mean, you can’t tell me a couple more years of college wouldn’t have benefited a guy like Beasley, Rose/Evans could’ve developed a better jumper, Thabeet would’ve had an extra yr… Plus it’d be fun because all these stars would be playing eachother in college and in the tourney– that would probably make the already most exciting basketball month that much more exciting.

And they would come to the NBA more mature and ready to go. The example he uses is LeBron and how he would’ve benefited from college from a maturity stand-point and it’s hard to disagree

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

They’re not infrigning on the players right. It’s been challenged in courts by Maurice Clarett for the NFL… He lost the case. The NFL, just like the NBA would, has the right to set a standard on who they hire. Just like a company who doesn’t hire if you don’t have a college degree.

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

They’re not infrigning on the players right. It’s been challenged in courts by Maurice Clarett for the NFL… He lost the case. The NFL, just like the NBA would, has the right to set a standard on who they hire. Just like a company who doesn’t hire if you don’t have a college degree.

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

They’re not infrigning on the players right. It’s been challenged in courts by Maurice Clarett for the NFL… He lost the case. The NFL, just like the NBA would, has the right to set a standard on who they hire. Just like a company who doesn’t hire if you don’t have a college degree.

[M-DYMESParticipant]

I agree and I also feel that for aspiring professional athletes, a major should be offered in many colleges that specializes in preparing students for the lifestyle they are preparing to venture into and focuses on maturation and teamwork. It should also focus on how to properly manage large sums of income.

[M-DYMESParticipant]

I agree and I also feel that for aspiring professional athletes, a major should be offered in many colleges that specializes in preparing students for the lifestyle they are preparing to venture into and focuses on maturation and teamwork. It should also focus on how to properly manage large sums of income.

[M-DYMESParticipant]

I agree and I also feel that for aspiring professional athletes, a major should be offered in many colleges that specializes in preparing students for the lifestyle they are preparing to venture into and focuses on maturation and teamwork. It should also focus on how to properly manage large sums of income.

[MagikKnickParticipant]

The real problem with one-and-dones is not the John Walls, Derrick Favors of the world, the problem is with the Tommy Mason-Griffins of the world..

If your a freshman, and you have the chance to go top 5, or even lottery there should be no problem, and its not like theres a high bust rate for one-and-dones, quite the opposite, the majority of one-and-dones have been very successful.

[MagikKnickParticipant]

The real problem with one-and-dones is not the John Walls, Derrick Favors of the world, the problem is with the Tommy Mason-Griffins of the world..

If your a freshman, and you have the chance to go top 5, or even lottery there should be no problem, and its not like theres a high bust rate for one-and-dones, quite the opposite, the majority of one-and-dones have been very successful.

[MagikKnickParticipant]

The real problem with one-and-dones is not the John Walls, Derrick Favors of the world, the problem is with the Tommy Mason-Griffins of the world..

If your a freshman, and you have the chance to go top 5, or even lottery there should be no problem, and its not like theres a high bust rate for one-and-dones, quite the opposite, the majority of one-and-dones have been very successful.

[llperez]

yeah, legally im well aware they can do whatever they want. Thats why it is my opinion they are infringing on their rights. If guys can flat out play and bust guys up and they have played at a higher level then highschool and gm’s and owners have had plenty of time to evaluate them and decide if they want to pick them and invest in them, then i think it’s stupid to keep them out the league. Im all for 1 year, but more then that makes no sense.

[llperez]

yeah, legally im well aware they can do whatever they want. Thats why it is my opinion they are infringing on their rights. If guys can flat out play and bust guys up and they have played at a higher level then highschool and gm’s and owners have had plenty of time to evaluate them and decide if they want to pick them and invest in them, then i think it’s stupid to keep them out the league. Im all for 1 year, but more then that makes no sense.

[llperez]

yeah, legally im well aware they can do whatever they want. Thats why it is my opinion they are infringing on their rights. If guys can flat out play and bust guys up and they have played at a higher level then highschool and gm’s and owners have had plenty of time to evaluate them and decide if they want to pick them and invest in them, then i think it’s stupid to keep them out the league. Im all for 1 year, but more then that makes no sense.

[llperez]

tommy mason griffin is not a problem because he wont be drafted in the first round. If you are not good enough to get drafted in the first round and teams arent investing moeny in you, then no one is getting hurt. Teams dont pick you and the player can go make money riding a bench or playing in the dleague since they obviously dont want to be in college.

[llperez]

tommy mason griffin is not a problem because he wont be drafted in the first round. If you are not good enough to get drafted in the first round and teams arent investing moeny in you, then no one is getting hurt. Teams dont pick you and the player can go make money riding a bench or playing in the dleague since they obviously dont want to be in college.

[llperez]

tommy mason griffin is not a problem because he wont be drafted in the first round. If you are not good enough to get drafted in the first round and teams arent investing moeny in you, then no one is getting hurt. Teams dont pick you and the player can go make money riding a bench or playing in the dleague since they obviously dont want to be in college.

[sheltwon3Participant]

My thing is you would take away player’s right because you have guys that make bad decisions. My thing is this, there are consequences to your decisions. Some people like a lot of Gms make terrible decisions. They pick these so called players that are not ready. Why punish players for Gms mistakes. Why not have a Gm say hey we will not draft a player unless he has gone to school for at least 3 years. Gms can make that choice. We want young people to be mature about stuff and take away the responsibilities of the guys that sign them.

[sheltwon3Participant]

My thing is you would take away player’s right because you have guys that make bad decisions. My thing is this, there are consequences to your decisions. Some people like a lot of Gms make terrible decisions. They pick these so called players that are not ready. Why punish players for Gms mistakes. Why not have a Gm say hey we will not draft a player unless he has gone to school for at least 3 years. Gms can make that choice. We want young people to be mature about stuff and take away the responsibilities of the guys that sign them.

[sheltwon3Participant]

My thing is you would take away player’s right because you have guys that make bad decisions. My thing is this, there are consequences to your decisions. Some people like a lot of Gms make terrible decisions. They pick these so called players that are not ready. Why punish players for Gms mistakes. Why not have a Gm say hey we will not draft a player unless he has gone to school for at least 3 years. Gms can make that choice. We want young people to be mature about stuff and take away the responsibilities of the guys that sign them.

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

loool he just doesn’t want anyone 2 beat his records

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

loool he just doesn’t want anyone 2 beat his records

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

loool he just doesn’t want anyone 2 beat his records

[apb540Participant]

The only reason why they have a 1 year rule is so that the NCAA could make more money off the Wall’s, Rose’s, Beasley’s, etc. If you believe otherwise then you are buying into a pile of BS lol. Soo many good HS players such as LeBron, Kobe, KG, etc.

[apb540Participant]

The only reason why they have a 1 year rule is so that the NCAA could make more money off the Wall’s, Rose’s, Beasley’s, etc. If you believe otherwise then you are buying into a pile of BS lol. Soo many good HS players such as LeBron, Kobe, KG, etc.

[apb540Participant]

The only reason why they have a 1 year rule is so that the NCAA could make more money off the Wall’s, Rose’s, Beasley’s, etc. If you believe otherwise then you are buying into a pile of BS lol. Soo many good HS players such as LeBron, Kobe, KG, etc.

[nateoak10Participant]

Kareem is wrong

[nateoak10Participant]

Kareem is wrong

[nateoak10Participant]

Kareem is wrong

[DanEboyParticipant]

As Eddie Murphy once said…

Tell kareem to grab a coke and a smile and shut the fu@k up!

[DanEboyParticipant]

As Eddie Murphy once said…

Tell kareem to grab a coke and a smile and shut the fu@k up!

[DanEboyParticipant]

As Eddie Murphy once said…

Tell kareem to grab a coke and a smile and shut the fu@k up!

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

I’m just sayin– Throughout my college life I matured a lot.. From the beginning of my freshman year until now I am a completely different person and for the better. College does a lot for people–For basketball players it’s not only in terms of bball but maturity wise. You give an 18 year old kid 10 million dollars, constant pressure, high expectations, ton of possible distractions/bad influences they don’t know how to deal with it. College is kind of a transition period for normal people, you have to think it would have 5 times the influence on a future NBA star who would have 5X the distractions in their careers.

His example with LeBron is spot on. LeBron could’ve definitly used college, not from a skill standpoint but from a mental/maturity stand point. Someone such as Roy Williams or Coach K to guide him and help him not say/think things like “i have 3 bad games in 7 years, its easy to point out”.

I see mostly benefits and few cons to increasing the age limit. So kids wait a year or 2 longer. It’s not like as fans you’re missing out–you can still watch them in college.

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

I’m just sayin– Throughout my college life I matured a lot.. From the beginning of my freshman year until now I am a completely different person and for the better. College does a lot for people–For basketball players it’s not only in terms of bball but maturity wise. You give an 18 year old kid 10 million dollars, constant pressure, high expectations, ton of possible distractions/bad influences they don’t know how to deal with it. College is kind of a transition period for normal people, you have to think it would have 5 times the influence on a future NBA star who would have 5X the distractions in their careers.

His example with LeBron is spot on. LeBron could’ve definitly used college, not from a skill standpoint but from a mental/maturity stand point. Someone such as Roy Williams or Coach K to guide him and help him not say/think things like “i have 3 bad games in 7 years, its easy to point out”.

I see mostly benefits and few cons to increasing the age limit. So kids wait a year or 2 longer. It’s not like as fans you’re missing out–you can still watch them in college.

[SpencerIsHawesome2Participant]

I’m just sayin– Throughout my college life I matured a lot.. From the beginning of my freshman year until now I am a completely different person and for the better. College does a lot for people–For basketball players it’s not only in terms of bball but maturity wise. You give an 18 year old kid 10 million dollars, constant pressure, high expectations, ton of possible distractions/bad influences they don’t know how to deal with it. College is kind of a transition period for normal people, you have to think it would have 5 times the influence on a future NBA star who would have 5X the distractions in their careers.

His example with LeBron is spot on. LeBron could’ve definitly used college, not from a skill standpoint but from a mental/maturity stand point. Someone such as Roy Williams or Coach K to guide him and help him not say/think things like “i have 3 bad games in 7 years, its easy to point out”.

I see mostly benefits and few cons to increasing the age limit. So kids wait a year or 2 longer. It’s not like as fans you’re missing out–you can still watch them in college.

[DanEboyParticipant]

With LeBron, I think his ego has more to do with the fact that he has been told he was the best by the media ince 8th grade. I don’t think college life would have changed that.

I understand what you are saying though, for most people it helps.

[DanEboyParticipant]

With LeBron, I think his ego has more to do with the fact that he has been told he was the best by the media ince 8th grade. I don’t think college life would have changed that.

I understand what you are saying though, for most people it helps.

[DanEboyParticipant]

With LeBron, I think his ego has more to do with the fact that he has been told he was the best by the media ince 8th grade. I don’t think college life would have changed that.

I understand what you are saying though, for most people it helps.

[sheltwon3Participant]

You give anybody that amount of money and pressure and it will be tough. I could see your point more if players were acting different that did not come out early. If you look at comparison, more player who went to school 3 year or more of school have had more situations than players that are 2 years and shorter. Everyone matures different and it is for the Gm’s to decide if a kids is not mature enough and not draft them. Gm’s value winning games to make them money over moral obligation and then they want rules in place to protect them and they are grown. Also you have guys over 30 doing just as many wild stuff than some of these young players. Matter of fact you have guys in Congress that are super old that have done stuff that would get an NBA player kicked out of the league for life and yet they still in Congress. You only see more pros than cons because this rule does not affect you directly. I am sure if this rule was something that was the different on you getting money sooner than later than you would have to think about it. Also how are college player developing more than NBA players when college players has to worry about more than basketball and they are limited in their supervised practice. Ask Brandon Jennings how that works out. He developed more overseas than he would have in the States.
Everyone matures differently, I doubt Lebron’s game would be any different. AI went to school for 2 years and it did not change him to much. The guys that talk about themselves maturing and all that were already mature in some fashion. It was not like Shane Battier was a gangsta and then after 4 years of college he changed. I think people need to do research on this stuff and not just say what sounds good. Also what are your thoughts about child actors then. The get paid crazy money before high school. Also what about Paris Hilton who has money from her parents. I think it is more about African Americans getting money than it is with someone young getting money. Young people have been getting money for decades.

[sheltwon3Participant]

You give anybody that amount of money and pressure and it will be tough. I could see your point more if players were acting different that did not come out early. If you look at comparison, more player who went to school 3 year or more of school have had more situations than players that are 2 years and shorter. Everyone matures different and it is for the Gm’s to decide if a kids is not mature enough and not draft them. Gm’s value winning games to make them money over moral obligation and then they want rules in place to protect them and they are grown. Also you have guys over 30 doing just as many wild stuff than some of these young players. Matter of fact you have guys in Congress that are super old that have done stuff that would get an NBA player kicked out of the league for life and yet they still in Congress. You only see more pros than cons because this rule does not affect you directly. I am sure if this rule was something that was the different on you getting money sooner than later than you would have to think about it. Also how are college player developing more than NBA players when college players has to worry about more than basketball and they are limited in their supervised practice. Ask Brandon Jennings how that works out. He developed more overseas than he would have in the States.
Everyone matures differently, I doubt Lebron’s game would be any different. AI went to school for 2 years and it did not change him to much. The guys that talk about themselves maturing and all that were already mature in some fashion. It was not like Shane Battier was a gangsta and then after 4 years of college he changed. I think people need to do research on this stuff and not just say what sounds good. Also what are your thoughts about child actors then. The get paid crazy money before high school. Also what about Paris Hilton who has money from her parents. I think it is more about African Americans getting money than it is with someone young getting money. Young people have been getting money for decades.

[sheltwon3Participant]

You give anybody that amount of money and pressure and it will be tough. I could see your point more if players were acting different that did not come out early. If you look at comparison, more player who went to school 3 year or more of school have had more situations than players that are 2 years and shorter. Everyone matures different and it is for the Gm’s to decide if a kids is not mature enough and not draft them. Gm’s value winning games to make them money over moral obligation and then they want rules in place to protect them and they are grown. Also you have guys over 30 doing just as many wild stuff than some of these young players. Matter of fact you have guys in Congress that are super old that have done stuff that would get an NBA player kicked out of the league for life and yet they still in Congress. You only see more pros than cons because this rule does not affect you directly. I am sure if this rule was something that was the different on you getting money sooner than later than you would have to think about it. Also how are college player developing more than NBA players when college players has to worry about more than basketball and they are limited in their supervised practice. Ask Brandon Jennings how that works out. He developed more overseas than he would have in the States.
Everyone matures differently, I doubt Lebron’s game would be any different. AI went to school for 2 years and it did not change him to much. The guys that talk about themselves maturing and all that were already mature in some fashion. It was not like Shane Battier was a gangsta and then after 4 years of college he changed. I think people need to do research on this stuff and not just say what sounds good. Also what are your thoughts about child actors then. The get paid crazy money before high school. Also what about Paris Hilton who has money from her parents. I think it is more about African Americans getting money than it is with someone young getting money. Young people have been getting money for decades.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Why is it that in the 3 most popular sports in this country basketball,baseball & football? People feel that a age limit should be set? Then praise teen golfers & tennis players as young as 14 and beg the kids parents to let them go pro..

Back In the 60’s when Kareem was coming out of High School..People were angry becuz freshmen weren’t allowed to play..

1 thing people dont talk about is Garnett wanted to go to college but he failed his entrance exams..Alot of kids don’t have the academic skills to succeed at a university for 4 years..And sports is their only of being successful in life…

Of course playing in college a few more years helps a player become better..But i think the decision should be up to the player…

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Why is it that in the 3 most popular sports in this country basketball,baseball & football? People feel that a age limit should be set? Then praise teen golfers & tennis players as young as 14 and beg the kids parents to let them go pro..

Back In the 60’s when Kareem was coming out of High School..People were angry becuz freshmen weren’t allowed to play..

1 thing people dont talk about is Garnett wanted to go to college but he failed his entrance exams..Alot of kids don’t have the academic skills to succeed at a university for 4 years..And sports is their only of being successful in life…

Of course playing in college a few more years helps a player become better..But i think the decision should be up to the player…

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

Why is it that in the 3 most popular sports in this country basketball,baseball & football? People feel that a age limit should be set? Then praise teen golfers & tennis players as young as 14 and beg the kids parents to let them go pro..

Back In the 60’s when Kareem was coming out of High School..People were angry becuz freshmen weren’t allowed to play..

1 thing people dont talk about is Garnett wanted to go to college but he failed his entrance exams..Alot of kids don’t have the academic skills to succeed at a university for 4 years..And sports is their only of being successful in life…

Of course playing in college a few more years helps a player become better..But i think the decision should be up to the player…

[NYK2010Participant]

21 thats a joke, no way the players union approves that.

[NYK2010Participant]

21 thats a joke, no way the players union approves that.

[NYK2010Participant]

21 thats a joke, no way the players union approves that.

[arman]

alot of guys can play straight out of hs,but real problem is that alot of them dont want to study,they are just bunch of stupid motherfucker who wants to be millionares at age of 19 …..

[arman]

alot of guys can play straight out of hs,but real problem is that alot of them dont want to study,they are just bunch of stupid motherfucker who wants to be millionares at age of 19 …..

[arman]

alot of guys can play straight out of hs,but real problem is that alot of them dont want to study,they are just bunch of stupid motherfucker who wants to be millionares at age of 19 …..

[WildDudeParticipant]

I mean, I’d have to agree with that… I admit, I was opposed to forcing players to wait a year upon graduation but there are a lot of NBA hopefuls who just get bad advice and could greatly benefit avoiding these, there are a few players who actually want to go to college and stay but are pressured to leave early, John Wall was eligible to leave out of high school because he was a 5th year senior but he really wanted to go to college.

I think there should be a similar system to baseball, having a minor league… and there is always the option of playing overseas, it did wonders for Brandon Jennings. I don’t know how much he could have helped his stock by going to college.

Think about players who would have been in the league if not for bad advice… Ndudi Ebi, Gerald Green, Rob Swift, Dorell Wright (although he seems to be starting to come along), Jackie Butler, and so on…

bottom line… it does not make sense to make them wait a year, its almost as if they’re coming straight out of the league, and some of them use their high school hype despite a unproductive freshman year.

[WildDudeParticipant]

I mean, I’d have to agree with that… I admit, I was opposed to forcing players to wait a year upon graduation but there are a lot of NBA hopefuls who just get bad advice and could greatly benefit avoiding these, there are a few players who actually want to go to college and stay but are pressured to leave early, John Wall was eligible to leave out of high school because he was a 5th year senior but he really wanted to go to college.

I think there should be a similar system to baseball, having a minor league… and there is always the option of playing overseas, it did wonders for Brandon Jennings. I don’t know how much he could have helped his stock by going to college.

Think about players who would have been in the league if not for bad advice… Ndudi Ebi, Gerald Green, Rob Swift, Dorell Wright (although he seems to be starting to come along), Jackie Butler, and so on…

bottom line… it does not make sense to make them wait a year, its almost as if they’re coming straight out of the league, and some of them use their high school hype despite a unproductive freshman year.

[WildDudeParticipant]

I mean, I’d have to agree with that… I admit, I was opposed to forcing players to wait a year upon graduation but there are a lot of NBA hopefuls who just get bad advice and could greatly benefit avoiding these, there are a few players who actually want to go to college and stay but are pressured to leave early, John Wall was eligible to leave out of high school because he was a 5th year senior but he really wanted to go to college.

I think there should be a similar system to baseball, having a minor league… and there is always the option of playing overseas, it did wonders for Brandon Jennings. I don’t know how much he could have helped his stock by going to college.

Think about players who would have been in the league if not for bad advice… Ndudi Ebi, Gerald Green, Rob Swift, Dorell Wright (although he seems to be starting to come along), Jackie Butler, and so on…

bottom line… it does not make sense to make them wait a year, its almost as if they’re coming straight out of the league, and some of them use their high school hype despite a unproductive freshman year.

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