Kansas Vs Kentucky
So, Kansas signed Tarik Black, adding another dangerous piece, my question to you guys, who do you think is the better team? I know we can't really decide until we see them take the floor, but on paper at least.
Kansas has the #1 center in the class in Joel Embiid, paired with Black and Wiggins, they have probably the best front court in the nation! I also personally like Seldon's game over James Young, although I understand both are very talented players.
Kentucky has the back court advantage overall though.
As much as I love Julius Randle, I really think Kansas is the team to beat.... You can call me crazy, but I sureeeeee hope they meet up this year. That would be incredible basketball.
When does the schedule come out?
If kansas can figure out their point guard situation look out. I think kentucky has more talent, but kansas is more balanced, has more quality experience, and equal coaching..
I like Frank Mason coming in, hopefully he can crack the rotation.
Do you think we will see Wiggins doing a bit of the Point Guard duties?
Self did say in an interview he would be playing the 2 and 3 for the most part, but occasionally will have Wiggins bring the ball up to make plays. Given this is Mr. Wiggins team, I'm sure we'll see it come to fruition.
I don't. Wiggins isn't a good ball-handler and isn't much of a playmaker. They have 3 guys capable of handling the ball with Naadir Tharpe, Conner Frankamp and Frank Mason.
The starting spot might go to Tharpe at based on seniority and defense but I like Frankamp more because Tharpe tends to play wild. Frankamp looks like a mature player, a steady decision maker and is a lights out shooter which I think they'll need in their starting lineup. I was really impressed by his play with Team USA. He's more of a shooter/scorer than a distributor but I think he can have a similar impact as Kevin Pangos last yr if given similar minutes.
Kansas had lost their whole starting five. They are not more experience than anybody.
Ku doesn't play UK this year as the non confrence schedule is out for KU. KU has Duke and Florida as two big tests.
Will be good to see wiggins vs parker!
Don't forget about Perry Ellis in that KU frontcourt.
PG Naadir Tharpe
SG Wayne Selden
SF Andrew Wiggins
PF Perry Ellis
C Tarik Black/ Joel Embiid- playing time split down the middle
B1 Conner Frankamp
B2 Jamari Traylor
B3 Andrew White
PG Andrew Harrison
SG Aaron Harrison
SF Alex Poythress
PF Julius Randle
C Willie Cauley-Stein
B1 James Young
B2 Kyle Wiltjer
B3 Dakari Johnson
My edge goes to UK slightly
Of course since Kansas is my favorite team, I am biased and will go with KU all day. I do recognize, however, talent-wise Kentucky is the team to beat.
Kentucky has the better team and front court they have Will Cayley Stien returning Dakari Johnson Kyle Wiljer Pothyress and they have Julius Randle that's a lot of talent. Even with Wiggins Kansas can't top that.
I agree with most talent wise UK is ahead of KU espescially off the bench. Ego wise UK is also ahead of KU which is not a good thing. think UK is going to have a harder time geling. Plus I think Self>Calapari when it comes to in game coaching.
Dead heat for me.
PG, SG, PF, and C. The #2 SF in James Young, the #2 PF in Marcus Lee, and the #10 ranked Combo Forward in Willis.
Add that with 2 out of 4 of last years #2 recruiting class and underachieving, but streaky stretch 4 and finally multiple Sr. and this tem is STACKED.
Kansas does look pretty good, but I still see them in the second tear with Ohio State, Louisville, Michigan and North Carolina.
Yes Uk has the #1 PG SG and PF but the #1 Center is arguable between Joel Embiid and Dakari Johnson. Uk's recruiting might be the best of all time...but don't boost people's rankings. James Young is not #2 that belongs to the #2 overall recruit Jabari Parker. Even more of an exaggeration is Marcus Lee as the #2 PF. This class is loaded with PFs and Marcus Lee is ranked 9th by ESPN and 8th by Rivals. He is not #2 and not even close. Lastly Willis ranked #10 in something? I'd like to know who you put in your combo forward rankings?
Yes UK is stacked but please do not post the wrong rankings just to make your point sound better. UK probably does have the more talented team but I would not be suprised if Kansas beats them. Having the best player on the court with Bill Self running the team where he always makes the most out of the players he has will make them a very good team. Hope to see a UK vs KU sometime in the tournament. If not at least we'll see one Wiggins vs Parker game when KU plays Duke.
etc etc, But the point guard play is gonna be the key again. The common assupmtion is that Harrison is going to have a seemless transition to the NCAA level. Thats not a definate though or could simply take time. I still go with Kentucky as a nod to Randle, I like Stein also upfront.
How could you not give the advantage to Kentucky. Last year and even some of you this year were saying how Kentucky can't win it with Freshman, then it was if they get Wiggins they will win it all. Make up your minds. Now its, Kansas's roster looks better. What a joke. Kentucky's roster has guys who played major minutes last year and it resembles the roster they had when they won it all. Wiltjer(Jr has won a title, played big mins and can hit the 3 ball) Poythress(Sophomore played good mins and has no choice, but to get better.the potential is there. Project first round next year) Cauley-Stein (Sophomore played big mins and improved drastically potential Top 8 pick in this draft. If you pare them with the freshman what holes do you have? They are are deeper then any team in America. Quit hating on Kentucky and give Cal and his staff props for what they have assembled this year. If Pitino can play 9 or 10, how come Cal cant? He likes to put pressure on the D and play at a fast pace. Last year he did not have players (PG) to do it. This year you have the Harrison twins and two back ups in Polson and Hawkins. (Jaysmith1987 knows what he is talking bout)
I'm still trying to figure out how Self can't get a good PG in there. Hasn't since Chalmers really. (I guess you can count selby as well).
Tharpe is not good. Him and Johnson had a battle going to be Michigan's MVP in that S16 matchup last year. Should've let Providence keep him and taken Dunn for themselves.
I hope they both suck..............
UK on paper should definitely be better. They are deeper at guard and just flat out better in the frontcourt. Randle/Poythress/WCS/Johnson/Wiltjer are way better than Ellis, Embiid (all raw ability), Black (didn't even start for Memphis) and Wiggins.