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  • #32231
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    highflyer0
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    I’ve been watchin some of Deuce Bello’s vids lately (that man can fly lol) and they are just amazing.  I know I’ll never get up like him but do you guys have any advice for increasing hops? I’m 16 and only about 5′-6" or 5′-7" so I need any advantage I can get on the court.  Right now I’m about 3 inches from touching the rim (prett sad, I know).  I understand this is off-topic but if anyone has done anything that has truly worked for them, not something that they’ve read about, I’d greatly appreciate it! Thanks. 

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  • #581650
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    Anton123
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     I’m 17 and the same height (I’m 5-6, so maybe even shorter) and i can touch the rim. All I do is simply jump a lot and stay in shape (running, pushups, etc.). I’m not doing any weight-lifting yet since it may slow down my growth (which I really don’t want for understandable reasons lol). 

    You can also try air alert, but i think it’s better to wait till you’re round 18 since it might mess up your knees.

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  • #581414
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    Anton123
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     I’m 17 and the same height (I’m 5-6, so maybe even shorter) and i can touch the rim. All I do is simply jump a lot and stay in shape (running, pushups, etc.). I’m not doing any weight-lifting yet since it may slow down my growth (which I really don’t want for understandable reasons lol). 

    You can also try air alert, but i think it’s better to wait till you’re round 18 since it might mess up your knees.

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  • #581652
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    highflyer0
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    Thanks…Yeah I’m not sure how much natural jumping ability I’ll gain in the next two years since I know your body  changes a lot during the years of 16-19

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  • #581416
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    highflyer0
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    Thanks…Yeah I’m not sure how much natural jumping ability I’ll gain in the next two years since I know your body  changes a lot during the years of 16-19

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  • #581654
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    akhan786
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    Do weights really stunt your growth at an early age?

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  • #581418
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    akhan786
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    Do weights really stunt your growth at an early age?

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  • #581656
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    Hale
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    It may stunt your growth if you’re under 14. Once you’re in high school or possibly even 8th grade it won’t. At 17 it certainly won’t stunt your growth.

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  • #581419
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    It may stunt your growth if you’re under 14. Once you’re in high school or possibly even 8th grade it won’t. At 17 it certainly won’t stunt your growth.

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  • #581658
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    Da1pot
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     If you’re worried about stunting your growth, squats is the main exercise you should stay away from even though it is the best overall exercise for improving your jumping ability.

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  • #581422
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    Da1pot
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     If you’re worried about stunting your growth, squats is the main exercise you should stay away from even though it is the best overall exercise for improving your jumping ability.

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  • #581661
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    Tim49461
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     It definitely does NOT stunt your growth.  Like yupyup said it only effects children.  It weight lifting stunted your growth then every football player in highschool was ment to be 3 to 4 inches tall since they all started in 8th grade or earlier. 

    It also depends on techinque, if you are lifting wrong then it could but highly unlikely.

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  • #581424
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    Tim49461
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     It definitely does NOT stunt your growth.  Like yupyup said it only effects children.  It weight lifting stunted your growth then every football player in highschool was ment to be 3 to 4 inches tall since they all started in 8th grade or earlier. 

    It also depends on techinque, if you are lifting wrong then it could but highly unlikely.

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  • #581667
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    kingoftheplayground
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    i was about the same height at that age and i wasnt coming close to the rim so someone mentioned i should do calf raises. i started doing calf raises every morning while i was brushing my teeth and i combined that with hoopin on a regular basis and it got me to where i could grab rim within about a year

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  • #581430
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    kingoftheplayground
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    i was about the same height at that age and i wasnt coming close to the rim so someone mentioned i should do calf raises. i started doing calf raises every morning while i was brushing my teeth and i combined that with hoopin on a regular basis and it got me to where i could grab rim within about a year

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  • #581670
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    surve
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    When I was in high school, I squated and that heavily strengthened my quadraceps.  I also did leg press and calf press, horizontal and 45 degree.  I also did a lot of leg curls.  I did these every day and increased my jumping greatly, but also increased my footspeed and lateral quickness.  Never heard that about stunting your growth, and wouldnt believe it to be true either. 

    The only thing I would caution about is leg weights….growing up, me and my boys used to wear them all day everyday until we heard it would cause fluid in your knees.  Never happened to me growing up…but as an adult I got a lil bit of fluid in one of my knees one time and it wasnt very bad.  Which reminds me, I had the same specialist as Ishua Benjamin…if anyone remembers him.  He was a talented 6’5" PG for NCSU and I would bump into him often there as I seem to remember he had some knee troubles.

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  • #581434
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    surve
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    When I was in high school, I squated and that heavily strengthened my quadraceps.  I also did leg press and calf press, horizontal and 45 degree.  I also did a lot of leg curls.  I did these every day and increased my jumping greatly, but also increased my footspeed and lateral quickness.  Never heard that about stunting your growth, and wouldnt believe it to be true either. 

    The only thing I would caution about is leg weights….growing up, me and my boys used to wear them all day everyday until we heard it would cause fluid in your knees.  Never happened to me growing up…but as an adult I got a lil bit of fluid in one of my knees one time and it wasnt very bad.  Which reminds me, I had the same specialist as Ishua Benjamin…if anyone remembers him.  He was a talented 6’5" PG for NCSU and I would bump into him often there as I seem to remember he had some knee troubles.

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  • #581682
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    SikNinjaSkillz
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    Calf raises for sure. I’m 5’8 and can dunk a 9′ 6" hoop. I added 6 inches to my vert in high school in a few months just adding them to my routine. I just did 5 sets til failure bout twice a week.

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  • #581446
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    SikNinjaSkillz
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    Calf raises for sure. I’m 5’8 and can dunk a 9′ 6" hoop. I added 6 inches to my vert in high school in a few months just adding them to my routine. I just did 5 sets til failure bout twice a week.

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  • #581689
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    moochiee
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    I’m 6’3 and got almost a 40 inch vert, don’t know if it is mostly natural cause I’ve never done any workouts, but what I did alot was just get out on a rim that could be lowered when I was younger and would just practice over and over dunking on that size and just progressively just raise the rim until I got more comfortable dunking on the next height.

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  • #581452
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    moochiee
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    I’m 6’3 and got almost a 40 inch vert, don’t know if it is mostly natural cause I’ve never done any workouts, but what I did alot was just get out on a rim that could be lowered when I was younger and would just practice over and over dunking on that size and just progressively just raise the rim until I got more comfortable dunking on the next height.

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  • #581699
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    WizardofOz
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    You have to work on your core too. That’s a big part of it.

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  • #581462
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    WizardofOz
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    You have to work on your core too. That’s a big part of it.

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  • #581701
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    NO EZ BUCKETS
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    Alot of your jumping power comes from your core. If you strengthen your entire core then you should gain some inches. I agree with Moochiee, just practicing dunking/jumping is usually the best excercise. That’s how I got to being able to dunk and i’m only 6’1"

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  • #581463
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    NO EZ BUCKETS
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    Alot of your jumping power comes from your core. If you strengthen your entire core then you should gain some inches. I agree with Moochiee, just practicing dunking/jumping is usually the best excercise. That’s how I got to being able to dunk and i’m only 6’1"

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  • #581703
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    WizardofOz
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    BTW, does anybody else’s hands hurt when they dunk?

    I can’t dunk on a 10′ hoop yet (5’7" 15yo), but I dunk on small hoops, and my hands really hurt when I try to do powerful dunks. I always see these big-time dunkers throwing down some big ones, but I’m always wondering how they do it because I think their hands would be killing them. Or do they just fight tthrough the pain?

    Does anybody else have this problem?

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  • #581465
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    WizardofOz
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    BTW, does anybody else’s hands hurt when they dunk?

    I can’t dunk on a 10′ hoop yet (5’7" 15yo), but I dunk on small hoops, and my hands really hurt when I try to do powerful dunks. I always see these big-time dunkers throwing down some big ones, but I’m always wondering how they do it because I think their hands would be killing them. Or do they just fight tthrough the pain?

    Does anybody else have this problem?

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  • #581706
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    Anton123
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    Sometimes dunkers do dunk to powerfully and do hurt their hand, if you watch some TFB tapes Jus Fly always has his hands all taped up since he always dunks so hard, so you are certainly not the only one with this problem. As long as you don’t bruise your hands too hard you should be fine.

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  • #581469
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    Anton123
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    Sometimes dunkers do dunk to powerfully and do hurt their hand, if you watch some TFB tapes Jus Fly always has his hands all taped up since he always dunks so hard, so you are certainly not the only one with this problem. As long as you don’t bruise your hands too hard you should be fine.

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  • #581709
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    highflyer0
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    Thanks for the advice everyone.  I also remember reading about how a lot of NBA players swear by the jumprope when it comes to vertical leap.  I’ve been doing it lately (jumping rope: one leg, 1 minute for each leg) and in only a week my standing vertical has gone from about 23.5 to 25 inches.  I’m not sure if these gains will continue but seems to be working right now.

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  • #581471
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    highflyer0
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    Thanks for the advice everyone.  I also remember reading about how a lot of NBA players swear by the jumprope when it comes to vertical leap.  I’ve been doing it lately (jumping rope: one leg, 1 minute for each leg) and in only a week my standing vertical has gone from about 23.5 to 25 inches.  I’m not sure if these gains will continue but seems to be working right now.

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  • #581711
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    IndianaBasketball
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    IF you want to increase your hops, work on your calfs and core.

    Do calf-raises, leap ups (bending knees and jumping up as high as you can on each jump… your quads will be burning, but keep going!), thrust ups (jumping as high as you can and then RIGHT back up, without bending your knees, as high/powerful as you can… this will help your no step vertical jump and second jumps) and burnouts (standing on your toes and doing a whole bunch of quick smaller jumps.. barely even getting your toes off of the ground… your calfs will be burning, but keep going lol).

    And core wise… Do plenty of sit-ups (switch em up… I do mine with a medicine ball or weight, but do that when you’re ready) and stretching. Stretching is huge.  I only rest and stretch on weekends… Do my workouts Mon-Fri.

    That should get you right. You can add in sprints, jumproping and light weights on the leg extention machine too.

     

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  • #581473
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    IndianaBasketball
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    IF you want to increase your hops, work on your calfs and core.

    Do calf-raises, leap ups (bending knees and jumping up as high as you can on each jump… your quads will be burning, but keep going!), thrust ups (jumping as high as you can and then RIGHT back up, without bending your knees, as high/powerful as you can… this will help your no step vertical jump and second jumps) and burnouts (standing on your toes and doing a whole bunch of quick smaller jumps.. barely even getting your toes off of the ground… your calfs will be burning, but keep going lol).

    And core wise… Do plenty of sit-ups (switch em up… I do mine with a medicine ball or weight, but do that when you’re ready) and stretching. Stretching is huge.  I only rest and stretch on weekends… Do my workouts Mon-Fri.

    That should get you right. You can add in sprints, jumproping and light weights on the leg extention machine too.

     

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  • #581717
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    IndianaBasketball
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    On those thrust ups… I usually stand right under the rim and try to touch the rim each jump.

    I started out holding nothing, but then started holding a basketball and jumping. Tried to dunk off of vertical everytime. Then once I mastered that, I started holding a 2-3 lb medicine ball and dunking with that.

     

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  • #581479
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    IndianaBasketball
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    On those thrust ups… I usually stand right under the rim and try to touch the rim each jump.

    I started out holding nothing, but then started holding a basketball and jumping. Tried to dunk off of vertical everytime. Then once I mastered that, I started holding a 2-3 lb medicine ball and dunking with that.

     

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  • #581721
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    highflyer0
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    Thanks @Indiana those sound like great workouts.  I know it takes time to jump higher, just got to stay focused.

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  • #581483
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    highflyer0
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    Thanks @Indiana those sound like great workouts.  I know it takes time to jump higher, just got to stay focused.

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  • #581725
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    Malik-Universal
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     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-LQF0VhQB4

    theres some good advice at the end of this vid… 

    bascially ur core is a huge part of ur jumping ability not just legs

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  • #581487
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    Malik-Universal
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     http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X-LQF0VhQB4

    theres some good advice at the end of this vid… 

    bascially ur core is a huge part of ur jumping ability not just legs

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    ForTheWin
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    Why are squats bad for height growth? I’m about the same age and wish I were taller.

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  • #581513
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    ForTheWin
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    Why are squats bad for height growth? I’m about the same age and wish I were taller.

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  • #581761
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    andxxx
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     http://www.verticaljumping.com/

    Great website with a lot of advice on improving jumping ability

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  • #581522
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    andxxx
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     http://www.verticaljumping.com/

    Great website with a lot of advice on improving jumping ability

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  • #581862
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    omphalos
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    Some good tips on this thread; I’ve got a friend who used that technique IndianaBasketball, said it worked well.

    Also, kinda funny that OP’s username is highflyer and he made a thread about jumping ability.

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  • #581622
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    omphalos
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    Some good tips on this thread; I’ve got a friend who used that technique IndianaBasketball, said it worked well.

    Also, kinda funny that OP’s username is highflyer and he made a thread about jumping ability.

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  • #581891
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    highflyer0
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    haha yeah…i just liked how the name sounded…im not really a highflyer…maybe someday

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  • #581653
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    highflyer0
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    haha yeah…i just liked how the name sounded…im not really a highflyer…maybe someday

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  • #581998
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    SubZero
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    If you don’t mind spending money, buy the Jump Manual. It’s an ebook made by (who a lot of people call) the best vertical expert in the world. If after 2 months you’re not satisfied, you can get your money back…and he’s never had to give anyone’s money back cuz it always works if you do it right. I’m currently doing it right now and I just got done with the 1st week so I haven’t really increased yet, but I have such a low vert (like, 20") that I think I’ll start increasing fast. What IndianaBasketball said sounds pretty great too, but the Jump Manual is good if you want to follow a set schedule and if you’re not exactly sure on when you should do what, how you should do it and how many times you should do it

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  • #581760
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    SubZero
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    If you don’t mind spending money, buy the Jump Manual. It’s an ebook made by (who a lot of people call) the best vertical expert in the world. If after 2 months you’re not satisfied, you can get your money back…and he’s never had to give anyone’s money back cuz it always works if you do it right. I’m currently doing it right now and I just got done with the 1st week so I haven’t really increased yet, but I have such a low vert (like, 20") that I think I’ll start increasing fast. What IndianaBasketball said sounds pretty great too, but the Jump Manual is good if you want to follow a set schedule and if you’re not exactly sure on when you should do what, how you should do it and how many times you should do it

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  • #582006
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     Ya I’m 6’3”, in High school I could just barely dunk, I put leg workouts in my routine and maybe only got an inch added to my vertical.

    In college I started stretching every morning and doing a variation of Abdominal workouts (Try P90x Ab workouts) along with weight lifting and I can dunk no problem now, probably added another 2 inches to my vertical.

    So if you want my advice do all your weight lifting but expand it by stretching and don’t forget your core is one of the most important muscle groups. 

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  • #581768
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     Ya I’m 6’3”, in High school I could just barely dunk, I put leg workouts in my routine and maybe only got an inch added to my vertical.

    In college I started stretching every morning and doing a variation of Abdominal workouts (Try P90x Ab workouts) along with weight lifting and I can dunk no problem now, probably added another 2 inches to my vertical.

    So if you want my advice do all your weight lifting but expand it by stretching and don’t forget your core is one of the most important muscle groups. 

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  • #582144
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     Plyometrics will greatly help (box hops, stairs, etc..) I used to high jump for my track team in high school and the addition of that to my workout added a couple inches to my vertical.  I’m also a big advocate of Olympic lifts to add explosive power, but I wouldn’t reccomend those to anyone who doesn’t have access to someone who can teach them proper form.  I’m 29 and still have a 29” standing vert and a 34” one max vert….I had natural leaping ability so my standing vert was 28” before I ever touched a weight or did a specialized workout, but I took it from 28” to my highest of 35” when I was about 19 or 20, so I added about 7” with only plyometrics and weight lifting, no videos, strength shoes, just the basics.

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  • #582383
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    JoeWolf1

     Plyometrics will greatly help (box hops, stairs, etc..) I used to high jump for my track team in high school and the addition of that to my workout added a couple inches to my vertical.  I’m also a big advocate of Olympic lifts to add explosive power, but I wouldn’t reccomend those to anyone who doesn’t have access to someone who can teach them proper form.  I’m 29 and still have a 29” standing vert and a 34” one max vert….I had natural leaping ability so my standing vert was 28” before I ever touched a weight or did a specialized workout, but I took it from 28” to my highest of 35” when I was about 19 or 20, so I added about 7” with only plyometrics and weight lifting, no videos, strength shoes, just the basics.

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  • #586225
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    vertjumpz
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    There are definitely exercises you can do to train…plyos do work if done correctly and on a schedule. There are a few excellent courses that aren’t expensive (Jump Manual is probably the best) that walk you through exercises and help you develop a training schedule. Regular training will get it done…if you put in the work.

    More info: http://www.verticaljumptrainingprogram.net/

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  • #586493
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    vertjumpz
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    There are definitely exercises you can do to train…plyos do work if done correctly and on a schedule. There are a few excellent courses that aren’t expensive (Jump Manual is probably the best) that walk you through exercises and help you develop a training schedule. Regular training will get it done…if you put in the work.

    More info: http://www.verticaljumptrainingprogram.net/

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