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  • #45365
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    valentine

    Who do you like better?

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  • #735755
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    lakeshow22
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    Well JR Smith actually tries to play defense

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  • #735758
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    WolfRob
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    I can’t think of someone tougher to guard in an isolation situation then Jamal though. So quick and long.

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    • #735762
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      A New Shitty Mock

      How about Jr smith

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  • #735764
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    surve
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    who is better? they are both situational players and this year they have found the right situations. I dont know.
    who I like better. I like both but Jamal is one of the best scorers in the history of the game, if he cant do anything else…and he does it in exciting fashion every play. I think he is like top 5-10 in points scored by a player to never make the All Star team.

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    • #735776
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      mikeyvthedon
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      I like that you brought this up and wanted to check who the highest scoring players were to never make an All-Star team. Here is the list of the top 20 scorers (points wise, not ppg) to never make an All-Star Game:

      1. Eddie Johnson: 19,202
      2. Jason Terry: 16,798 (Active)
      3. Derek Harper: 16,006
      4. Sam Perkins: 15,324
      5. Andre Miller: 14,968 (Active)
      6. James "Buddha" Edwards: 14,862
      7. Mike Bibby: 14,698
      8. Purvis Short: 14,607
      9. Rod Strickland: 14,463 (Though he made the All-NBA 2nd Team in 1997-98)
      10. Jason Richardson: 14,400 (Active)
      11. Ron Harper: 13,910
      12. Chuck "The Rifleman/Dwight Howard’s shooting coach" Person: 13,858
      13. Orlando Woolridge: 13,623
      14. Jalen Rose: 13,220
      15. Corey Maggette: 13,198 (Active)
      16. Al Harrington: 12,961 (Active)
      17. Kendall Gill: 12,914
      18. Jamal Crawford: 12,889 (Active)
      19. Wayman Tisdale: 12,878
      20. Mychal "Klay’s Dad" Thompson: 12,810

      Most of these guys were definitely close to All-Star level for a few seasons in their career. Getting back to the original post, I absolutely go with Jamal Crawford. I know Jamal had a really bad season last year, but I still cannot get over how poorly JR Smith played in last seasons play-off series against Miami. 31.6% FG in that series. Yes, his percentages from the field and three point line are better than Crawford’s from a career standpoint, but I feel Crawford is better at getting shots for himself and others.

      Lets face it, they both tend to have horrendous shot selection. Plus, it took Jamal quite a while to even make it to the play-offs (though I will say he did not have Carmelo Anthony on his team). Nonetheless, Jamal seems to have a versatility to play both guard spots that JR lacks. He also seems to know his role much more and is more willing to provide bench scoring, doing so at a higher rate than JR over the last 3 seasons.

      Throw in Jamal being better at getting to the line and making his FT’s, he is much more dangerous at the end of a game. I think their is a reason that Jamal signed a 4 year deal and JR signed a 2 year deal this off-season, guessing a large part is attitude. Say what you will about Crawford’s defense, do not think Smith is a lock down guy in the least. If I needed a two guard to come off my bench and had a choice between these two, Crawford without hesitation.

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      • #735796
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        surve
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        ok, good fact check….I was way off! I thought for sure Jamal was higher on the list…but he will move up that list fast however. wow, this list is interesting…for a few reasons…

        Eddie Johnson was a helluva player, if I had to guess I wouldve thought he made it. Derek Harper didnt make it??? wow. Another amazing player.
        Purvis Short was basically in purgatory at the time, he shouldve made it the year he avg like 28ppg. He just didnt stand out enough that year with MJ, King, Bird avg more and English just a shade under him. Andre Miller is perhaps the best to never make it….because he is the 10th all time in assists and likely will pass Rocket Rod, due to his durability. I do like Jamal’s chances of breaking the top 10, and I dont know if he will ever make the team.

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        • #735800
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          mikeyvthedon
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          Can’t believe Rod Strickland never made an All-Star team. Andre Miller is amazing too, he definitely had his chances but just never played on a really GREAT team. Will say he made some teams that were not that good a whole lot better. Was always a big fan of Andre, for his lack of outside shooting and athleticism, he could run a team incredibly well, score tough buckets and is a definite floor general.

          Jamal will completely climb that list barring injury. He is still one of the highest scoring players never to make it and I have to think that he never will. Not getting any younger, not going to make it this year with Kobe/Harden taking the SG slots and a plethora of worthy west PG’s.

          Still was an awesome player and is one of the lone bright spots from that terrible 2000 draft. Only Hedo Turkoglu has played in more games out of 2000 Draftees and Jamal still has more career points. No one from that draft plays close to the role that Jamal does right now, which I guess is impressive for longevity’s sake. He may not have been an All-Star, but he has outlasted the three from 2000 in Michael Redd, Kenyon Martin and Jamaal Magloire.

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  • #735774
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Crawford is more exciting to watch. That hesitation crossover between the legs to the behind the back dribble is sick. Or he’ll mix it up and do the hesitation behind the back dribble to the crossover… And then pull up.

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  • #735783
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    rileymcshea3
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    In style Jamal’s handles are so sick but JR Smith throws down some crazy dunks

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  • #735788
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    Malcolmx
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    Is it me or does it seem like Jamal Crawford does not age. He is 32 and still quick with nice bounce and has a lot of wiggle in his body.

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  • #735791
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    Malik-Universal
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    w/o a doubt crawford

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  • #735801
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    JNixon
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    Jamal Crawford isnt a human man. He’s one of my 3 favorite players in the game. His crossovers and handle is crazy, and he’s got a knack for putting up points. Smith is a crazy athlete and a better pure shooter than Crawford tho

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  • #735810
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    phila9012
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    I cant believe crawford is so good, and he said he never practiced in the off season and that this was the first year he did so. Neither of them are that efficient, smith has a career 43% FG and crawfords is 41%. The both are fun to watch, crawford is quicker and smoother, while smith is stronger and has more leaping ability. I dont know who I like better, both of them can shoot you into a game or shoot you out of a game.

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  • #735884
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    Plat
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    jamal crawford

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