[IknoBall12Participant]

 I just don’t get the hype. Ima Duke fan so I watch Acc ball a lot and I’m confused as hell hearing that this dude is going to be a top pick. I get it with the height and length but some of the stuff that I read especially the bio I saw on this site just doesn’t match the tape. Yes he does move well but what position would he even play. Then again  Being a tweener nowadays isn’t a bad thing in the NBA. But I see things like good ball handler and good 3 pt shot? I gotta wonder did people even watch his games or are you just looking at highlights? Guy literally disappeared during games despite the announcers hyping him. I’m not saying in anyway that he shouldn’t go first round but when I see people say he’s so underrate don’t I just gotta ask someone to explain what do they see. Everyone tall AnD  long has potential lol what makes him a top 7ish pick though?

[nill650Participant]

 Isaac is an elite defensive prospect and shot a better 3 point % than Tatum this year. 

Neither are comfortable shooting the 3 at a high rate though.

at 6’10" 7’1ws Isaac can shoot over most wing defenders with ease.

so there is a lot of upside to be reached more easily than someone with less length that already has that at a high volume in college.

Isaac has proven to have a consistant reliable court vision and could be a point forward in the league.

Tatum has a much more advanced off the dribble game and can create space to make up for his lack of length compared to Isaac . so it’s a wash. they both are lottery picks.

[JDB12Participant]

 Wiggins was said to be an elite defensive prospect as well… 

[wonzi_bellsParticipant]

 People said that with Wiggins out of conjecture based on his athleticism and decent length. If you watched him and looked into basic stats, nothing ever showed that Wiggins was going to be a good defensive player. With Isaac, it stands out that he’s pretty engaged on that end and will at least bring that to the NBA on the higher end of the spectrum.

[nill650Participant]

yeah ,

he isn’t strong enough yet to hold his position in the paint at the next level,if he is picked to a team that sees him at the 4,so they will have to be patient, and will probably regret the pick if they are expecting him to contribute right away as he needs to add a lot of weight to break into a rotation at the 4.

But a team that wants a fluid defensive prospect with huge upside offensively esp at the 3 he could go in the 5-10 range on draft night and that seems to be his window according to the draft gurus.

His draft stock strength is his length and quickness/explosiveness that can be used on the perimeter right now as an elite defensive option who can pass on the offensive end and can be reliable as a catch and shoot option and defend well from day one.

 the added bonus of solid shooting mechanics and decent court awareness raise his stock to lottery consideration with the huge upside factor offensively existing in his capability as the primary or secondary ball handler that can become a playmaker for others as he works on his outside game and improves his ability to get separation from others that can defend him despite his length and ability to shoot over most that switch onto him.

teams should not be as hesitant to draft him in the lottery as they would be if he was simply an athletic defender without any of the other skills in his arsenal despite not being given the castle keys to utilize them in college very often.

Given all that , he has a lot of work to do to reach a lottery level worthiness so I can see why some teams may pass on him for prospects with a little less upside, but a lot more strength or proven offense, So if teams that are concerned about work ethic are not impressed with him in the interviews at the combine he could be a steal in the 14-20 range. But if he impresses the teams already scouting him heavily even further, he could go as high as 5.

 

[vulture711Participant]

 Solid range, handle, plays D…..needs to be more assertive but has the tools and should fill out his frame.  I think we can go as high as 3-5.  Can play 3 and stretch 4

[holefillers1Participant]

Isaac played PF at FSU. He will be able to play SF and PF in the NBA because he can move without the ball and shoot. He has decent handles but at this point creating for himself is secondary to his ability to protect the paint and switch on the perimeter. Also cleans the boards. Isaac’s length and ball handling will allow him to beat most PF’s on the perimeter and he can get his shot off over most wings. I can see his trajectory being similar to that of Paul George and Kawhi Leonard.

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Lololol at the Paul George/Kawhi comparison.. Isaac is a 4 at the next level and is a project with good physical traits. He’s limited in his basketball IQ right now and will be closer to Jerami Grant with a jumper. 

[holefillers1Participant]

 The Grant comp might be bolder than my George/Leonard comp.  Once ththe workouts start this dude will sky rocket…all the way to the top three and maybe even #1.  He is not limited in his IQ. He is not raw like Grant either. Isaac has skills and is finding his game much like Kawhi did.  

[Robb_CParticipant]

what makes you think he has above average basketball IQ? People say he tends to disappear in games that’s because he struggles in situations..no way on gods green earth does he go top 3.. Guys on here are romantizing his skill set just like they did Anthony Randolph..

[holefillers1Participant]

 Robb that is where you keep making your mistake.  Randolph and Grant are both very raw like Skal was coming out of Kentucky.  Isaac is a 6’10 wing who used to be a 6’2 gaurd.  Also thats the second time you accused me of romanticizing his ability.  I scout talent Robb.  When you pick at the top of the draft you take the guy who does the most and can become the best…some folks call it potential.  As far as negatives with Isaac, his ball handling is very iffy in transition and he doesn’t use his dribble to attack the basket out of sets.  

 Look at a prospect like Malik Monk, he can shoot, shoot, shoot all day long but who is he defending and when is he attacking the basket off the dribble.  IMO Monk should be labeled as an undersized SG with limited handles and a lack of "want to" on defense given his tremendous athleticism.  Now folks who love Monk will say he is a super athlete that can run, jump and shoot so if he tightens up his handles and learns to play defense he will be an All-Star. 

See Robb C, it is all based on potential. Even if Monk realizes his, he is still undersized. Conversely if Isaac realizes his he is a mismatch nightmare for the entire league. I can’t force you to like the best player in the draft but I will try.

 

 

[Robb_CParticipant]

We will see come draft night, I respect your opinion on Isaac you’ve been high on him since the start of the season.

I think hes going to be a 10 FGAs a game type guy, I just dont see a coaching staff being comfortable giving him anything more, due to as mentioned above "struggling in certain situations". 

Hes a promising development pick, Hes the type of guy that will need to be in the right situation to succeed, meaning he’s going to need to go to a team with a lot of patience and typically those teams are selecting later in the draft.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I gotta mediate here because I agree and disagree with some of the stuff both of you are stating. First of all the PG/Kawhi comparison… not good man. Although I would say he is a smart player and he understands the game. The thing abou5 a team drafting Isaac is theres so much you can do with this guy. Offensively he has shown flashes of Kevin Durantesque moves, turnaround fading jumpers, good courtvision and just all around complete games. Like Robb swid you could very well habe him only take 10 shots per game in the right situation, but he might also average 15-16 points on those 10 shots plus free throws and still give you 8 rebounds,43 assists, 1.5 steals and 2 blocks. You might 2ant to harness his offensive abillity and d3cide to develop him into a first option, or bulk him up and put him in the post. He has the touch, quickness and developing skill to potentially play on the perimeter, the height, length and mental toughness to potentially play on the inside and in a league dominated by versatility he projects to be a guy that can cover alot of roles for your team and be a swiss army knife low maintenance guy. 

Its easy to find high volume scorers nowadays and the fact that Isaac provides much more than just scoring AND is still a very skilled scorer puts him right up there after Fultz and Jackson for me in competition with Ball, Tatum, Smith, Monk and Fox to round out my top 8. I would not be shocked if he went 3rd.

 

[alex23Participant]

 but I feel like he can be an all star caliber player down the road. Maybe Rashard Lewis with way more defensive potential, that could be a deadly player in today’s NBA

[alex23Participant]

 Just noticed that this site compared him to Rashard also, honestly had no idea

[HitsterParticipant]

 Guy looks to have a lovely shooting touch, runs the floor very fluidly for a guy his size. He is a prototype stretch 4 who you’d want to put next to a big strong C. But he can also play SF where his length and size will make him a very good defender and he’ll also have offensive advantage as said above.

When he went inside the top 3 on the mocks, I thought it was too high but 6th looks a good fit for him. In this year’s draft which lacks a standout big, he’ll have a great chance of being drafted high although he is a combo forward.

Minny need shooters and he’d be a perfect fit there from the bench to reduce workload on Wiggins, Dieng and KAT.

If Lakers pick comes over to Philly at 5 or lower than they will likely look at him.

Sacramento would also be a decent fit as he’d get some nice free shots next to AD and DMC.

Knicks will probably have a good look at him too.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

Sacramento doesn’t have DMC anymore and they never had Anthony Davis who I assume you refer to as AD. They are both with the Pelicans. The Kings have the Pelicans pick as well as their own.  So your point that Isaac will be a decent fit and get some nice free shots next to AD and DMC is mute because neither player is in Sac-town. 

[HitsterParticipant]

I meant that he would be a nice fit for either Sac-town or NOP depending on how the lottery goes but NOP would only look at him if they traded down in reality. I was thinking faster than I typed hence oversight.

[properbreaksParticipant]

If they draft him top 10 or in the top 7 some kind of way then fine, but I never get it when people say that he’s potentially top 3 or may wind up being the top player from this class. He has to REALLY be a great shooter because the other parts of his game I just didn’t see it. He’s average from what I have seen off of the dribble if you consider him to be a small forward and he’s just above average to me athletically. He hasn’t shown me a post game. From what I saw of him shooting he shot it all right but he didn’t come off to me as a pure shooter like Durant or Ingram.

[CoachWyersParticipant]

 Isaac is in the the 5-10 range right now because he is what the NBA likes right now a stretch 4 and he also has a ton of potential when/if his body fills out. I think he will end up being a good starter in the league like a teams 3rd best player that may be able to sneak into a few all star games, but he won’t be a regular all star.

He is a good shooter that should be able to step out and hit the NBA 3.  He rebounds the ball.  As his body fills out and he puts on some muscle his defensive potential will go up because he will be able to bang in the post, which he won’t be able to do right away, and with his length that could allow him to become a rim protector.  That would make him an extremely dangerous defender since he already can guard the pick and roll and stay in front of people on the perimeter. If he could develop some post moves that would also make him more dangerous on offense as an inside/outside threat and the added weight would allow him to finish through contact which he struggles to do right now around the rim.

 

 

 

[Robb_CParticipant]

 TJ Leaf is better than Isaac.. I think TJ Leaf has the better offensive skill set and could be very interesting with added size. 

[DolanCareParticipant]

Isaac is a tall and long player who is ultra-mobile. With those attributes, he’s a first round draft pick even if he had a MKG jump shot. But he doesn’t. Isaac’s stroke is smooth and mechanically sound. He shot a passable 3pt percentage, 34.8%. History shows that his shot will get better with more reps and maurity. That makes him a lottery talent. 

Isaac doesn’t have great handle. True. He’ll probably never be someone who creates off the dribble. But so what? I see him as a bigger, longer Trevor Ariza. 

 

 

[tblazer_NZParticipant]

I think he is what we thought Quincy Miller was going to be. Quincy was never really able to come back from his inuries to be a good NBA player. I like a lot of the comparisions made for Isaac, such as Rashard Lewis or a taller Trevor Ariza.

[holefillers1Participant]

 I’m going to respectfully tweak that a little bit and say Isaac is what we thought Perry Jones III would be.  

[OhCanada-Participant]

 I gotta disagree when the OP and others say he disappeared during games. I watched alot of FSU games this year and he never disappeared on the defensive end which was his most impressive qaulity. The intensity was always there. 

Offensively he played on a team whose gaurds really froze him out and while Rathan Mayes did a better  job distributing the basketball this year he still struggles with that part of the game not to mention Dwayne Bacon’s tunnel vision, shoot first mentality. FSU’s bigs also really struggled with ball movement and finesse in general. There were games I commented on where I seen him score 3 or 4 baskets in a row then not get a play called or set up for him for another 5 minutes. 

 

 Coming into his freshman year aftertheire were rumours he was trying to go pro straight out of highschool I didnt know quite what to expect from him and in my mind I sort of pegged him as a premodanna type offensive player but he ended up being anything but. Bis defensive instincts are top notch, he has a high motor great length and athletisism, he isnt scared of contaxt despite being thin, he is a good shooter and has a full offensive arsenal he didnt get to display consistently at FSU. 

He needs to bulk up but hes a PF. Reminds me of Andrei Kirelenko. 

 

[mamadouParticipant]

Isaac will play 3-4-5 and guard 1 to 5 in the half court game down the road.

He’s a legit defender, he’ll be fundamentally sound, playing all the defenses you need him to play, it’s not potential or physical tools my ass, it’s not defensive stats because he’s long, he gambles or as a weakside shot blocker(many stealers, shot blockers are so overrated defensively, you know them).

We’re talking of a defensive force, all nba defensive teams 2023 to 2029, he rebounds, he’ll score in double digit, he’ll play and guard multiple positions, floor spacer, a good off ball player at first, he’ll improve his ball skills like many other 2 way players before him.

Isaac ain’t a go to guy, he’s not a chucker, stat stuffer(never will be ?) , he never attempted 14 shots in a game, averaging 8, so he didn’t disappeared when he had 7 shots games, that’s who he was…sure he wasn’t a dukie !!!.

Just a frosh PF playing 26 mins, team first player.

Long term project…worth it, without remorse or regret personally as the Wolves GM(true point rubio, 6th men instant offense Lavine, all star Wiggins, superstar Towns, blue collar team player Dieng)

He’s the guy the Celts needed the most, you ain’t drafting him top 4 tho, 5-10 is the range, the magic could envision him as a tweener partner for Gordon, it would be a bad idea for them and for him, they really need a scoring punch right away, a ROY potential ala Tatum-Smith.

Not a guy i would draft in a very young team, very losing team or without a PG, he fits the Wolves as much as Jackson fits the suns, Ball the lakers or Monk would have with the Hornets.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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