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  • #6154
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    valentine

    Ok, i was watching a bunch of videos and mixtapes of John Wall. IMO, he does not look like a point guard to me lol. he was throwing down insane dunks and grabbing alley-oops and doing tip-slams. He is FREAKISHLY athletic and he really looked liike a shooting guard. Although, he was making great passes and was very quick. If he is indeed a point, he will change what a point guard is and will be “in his own.” He looks very dominant and i cant wait to see him play this upcoming season at Memphis. Opinions?

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  • #176687
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    Michael.S.
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    he will change what a point guard is and will be “in his own.”
    yep that pretty much sums it up, he’s got all the potential in the world

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  • #176689
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    J-CHRISTOS
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    The length of Rondo with the athleticism of Derrick Rose enough said

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  • #176690
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    Michael.S.
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    faster than both Rondo and Rose IMO

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  • #176691
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    Adi Joseph

    Wall is definitely a point guard and definitely has freakish athleticism. But he struggles in half court and with his jumper and body strength, and he’s going to need to improve those things.

    Rose was stronger, a better shooter and just as athletic coming out of high school. Wall’s probably a marginally better passer, but I don’t know about him redefining the point guard position with Rose doing it first.

    Don’t get me wrong though, being marginally worse than Rose is hardly a snub. Wall should be a stud. 

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  • #176692
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    Michael.S.
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    not to mention he is extremely ambidexterous

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  • #176693
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    he wont change what a pg is..derrick rose is already doing what it is projected what wall will do..except rose at that stat ecared mnore about getting assist then points..plus was bigger and was a actually senior instead of a 5th year senior….but pontenially wall could be very good…we just have to see how he does against better competetion when hes in college instead of the guys you see trying to guard him in the mixtapes

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  • #176696
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    baller03

    But watching John Wall, he reminded me of a lefty Dwayne Wade lol very explosive and making circus shots and such. Circus shots are nothing but it shows how much skill he has. He does need to improve his jump shot though.

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  • #176698
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    J-CHRISTOS
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    Derrick Rose’s athleticism is world class,we will have to check measurements next year to match them up,I just thought this right now John Wall is kind of a right handed Brandon Jennings

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  • #176699
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    dalinker
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    he aint going to Memphis,, Kentucky and Coach Cal

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  • #176700
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    Stanford hoops
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    he isnt the scorer that brandon was..not really close to what brandon was as a scorer

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  • #176703
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    baller03

    Yeah Kentucky i meant lol i forgot i thought he was going to memphis. my bad dalinker!

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    • #176708
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      dalinker
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      But i see john wall playing like jerryd bayless in college… scoring and dishing.. but a better pro career would go to wall….

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  • #176707
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    J-CHRISTOS
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    I should have stressed kind of

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  • #176714
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    baller03

    Is it just me, but i dont see point guards catchin alley-oops and doing tip slams though lol. John Wall is a very different type of point, i cant stress enough how much he plays like a shooting guard. STUD

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  • #176716
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    J-CHRISTOS
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    No way their games are nothing alike,Bayless not much of a passer,and Wall not much of a shooter,in a way they’re total opposites

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  • #176717
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    take a look at some allen iverson stephon maubry, even tywon lawson mix tapes….you wont believe the way they were catching it on people heads..as well as rondo

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  • #176718
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    Stanford hoops
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    bayless in higschool averaged about as much as wall though and wasnt a great shooter either..how were the opposite?

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    • #176724
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      J-CHRISTOS
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      Jerryrd Bayless averaged 37 points a game is his junior year and another high ass point average his senior year, stats in high school not even close

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  • #176719
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    gregoden08
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    To me, John Wall is just a skinnier, more undisciplined Rose.

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  • #176720
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    karanrai
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    I see him as definitely bein a point.. I mena your right that he would prolly b just as freakish as a 2-guard… however, why wouldn’t u want ur best athlete playin the position that handles the ball the most? (or thats SUPPOSED to handle it the most ahem cavs get a real PG… but i digress) Also, the man is actually a legit PG which I LOVE… too many guys these days have to switch positions based on size and stuff like that so its definitely refreshing to get a guy playing THAT good at a position that important… plus hsi potential is definitely through the roof…

    hmmm NBA comparisons… definitely see the derrick rose comparisons but then anyone can see that… however, I see some steve nash in his passing flair… would definitely love to see wall in an uptempo system…

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  • #176721
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I would think this ability will just enhance John Wall as a point guard. From what I have heard and seen from him, PG seems to be the position he will play, and if he has the skill to play SG, that just enhances his ability. I think he is a great athlete, although I was more impressed with seeing tape of Derrick Rose in HS. That guy is an athletic freak and it already has made him into one hell of a PG. I think PG also needs to have that ability to run it up the floor, as much as the 2 needs to have that ability to try and create opportunities off of the ball.

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  • #176723
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    baller03

    They are all small point guards who is athletic. But John Wall is 6’4 (ehem same a D-Wade) and is doing crazy moves. I just wanna see him in college and see how he performs at point.

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  • #176729
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    wall is 6’2 not 6’4 ..that sone difference between him and wade..same height as maubry……one thing im wondering no one ever mentions is he was suppossed to be a freshman last year..he played 5 years in hs…going by his real senior year he was a good pg still but got punished by jennings each time they palyed as well as got locked down while playing for the d-one aau team( i guess thats not saying much since jenning is very very good and was the top hs player that year)…but like you said we will have to see how he does in college ..as someone stated that was highschool against d3 pg guarding him

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  • #176735
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    the_truth34
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    be to good he sounds like Jarvaris Crittenton he put up this 29 points, 9 assists, and 7 rebounds his senior year and was very athletic dunked the ball well for point guard and didnt have good jumpshot they sound completely alike and look how crittenton turned out not even in wizards rotation

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  • #176742
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    Stanford hoops
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    hmmmm you know what i never thought about that

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  • #176752
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    J-CHRISTOS
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    Got drafted by the lakers right,try to find stuff on him,but couldn’t find much,but I don’t think he’s as athletic as Wall.When he got traded to the Wizards got alot more playing,but not alot,he’ll play alot more next year

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  • #176755
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    Stanford hoops
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    yea you obviously never seen him in highschool…very very athletic

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    Stanford hoops
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    the_truth34
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    tuck243
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    that’s where the comparison stops… Bayless ALWAYS had a jumper since the 8th grade. John Wall is similar to D. Rose, but with more flash… People FORGET how D. Rose didn’t have a jumper in college… Go back and look at his scouting reports… Wall looks like he has better vision than Rose though (but hot dogging it sometimes looks like that)… As far as the athleticism, I think Wall takes that one right now (because Im only going on visual)… I’ve never seen a PG dunk as hard, smoothly, and creative, with BOTH hands like John Wall… Say what you want, but I haven’t seen D. Rose do some of the things Wall does in the Air… But the actual PG aspect of the game, D. Rose… D. Rose might not thread the needle, but he’s a steady PG that tries not to turn the ball over and keeps his poise… That’s all you can ask for… Wall is the oppisite as far as that attitude… So, in retrospect Wall could redefine the PG postion… Athletic with crazy passes, dunks, and shots… The last PG to do that? KJ?

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  • #176840
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    tuck243
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    What other position can he play? The trend in the NBA is to put that type of player at PG so he can have the ball in his hands and take over that way… Rondo? Westbrook? Name a elite, athletic 2-guard with NO jumper?

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  • #176858
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    mrhancoc
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    IMO, i think the video mixtape of J. Wall is way overratted, those are really just some high school kid, i hate the fact that this kid is going to kentucky under calipari, think calipari is a snake and a half ass coach, he should have gone to unc or duke, at least there(UNC OR DUKE) he would have learned some much needed skills that he will never learn at kentucky and will learn about 4 yrs into nba, HIS ATHLETICISM WILL TAKE HIM TO THE NBA ALONE, but just understanding the game and how to win as a team will take some time

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