John Wall Part 2 - NBADraft.net

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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:25pm #22694

delfam
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first play of the game he clanks a 15 footer, he might get the Rondo treatment which will take away a lot of his speed. Rondo can compensate but Wall isn’t a great passer in the half-court yet. Could be a long season for Washington till he gets a jumper.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:30pm #423417

tyrekeevans
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true about a long season but not by wall’s jumper!
more like the poor fella needs good players lol.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:30pm #423422

tyrekeevans
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true about a long season but not by wall’s jumper!
more like the poor fella needs good players lol.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:32pm #423424

delfam
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he also doesn’t get much lift on his jumper which I think could be a problem
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:32pm #423419

delfam
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he also doesn’t get much lift on his jumper which I think could be a problem
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:33pm #423426

Mr.Knick 32
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His jumper is a work in progress. I think he still running the offense instead of being the offense.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:33pm #423421

Mr.Knick 32
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His jumper is a work in progress. I think he still running the offense instead of being the offense.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:37pm #423427

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And the bashing continues…..
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:37pm #423432

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And the bashing continues…..
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:41pm #423438

Mr.Knick 32
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Wiz, I’m not bashing him at all. I think right now, he’s making the right moves in trying to get the teammates to score 1st, but I rather see him score first, look to pass 2nd.
No bashing at all man.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:41pm #423441

Mr.Knick 32
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Wiz, I’m not bashing him at all. I think right now, he’s making the right moves in trying to get the teammates to score 1st, but I rather see him score first, look to pass 2nd.
No bashing at all man.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:53pm #423446

SubZero
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All he needs to be the best offensive player on the team is a jumper
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:53pm #423449

SubZero
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All he needs to be the best offensive player on the team is a jumper
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:56pm #423450

RUDEBOY_
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Wade had an ugly ass jumper when he 1st came into the league…give dude time..
speaking of the Wizards..I saw on someone’s Twiitter Page that writes for a DC Newspaper, that the Wizard Organization Suspended Arenas 5 games for Faking that injury…They say Arenas recieved a 50,000 fine and a 5 game suspension..dont know if the suspension is true..
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 1:56pm #423454

RUDEBOY_
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Wade had an ugly ass jumper when he 1st came into the league…give dude time..
speaking of the Wizards..I saw on someone’s Twiitter Page that writes for a DC Newspaper, that the Wizard Organization Suspended Arenas 5 games for Faking that injury…They say Arenas recieved a 50,000 fine and a 5 game suspension..dont know if the suspension is true..
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:09pm #423462

SubZero
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Yeah Rudeboy, I remember Wade couldn’t hit a 3 to save his life the first few years he was in the league. Luckily, a jump shot is the easiest thing to teach in basketball, and Wall’s best attributes are mainly things that you can’t teach or some people just can’t get
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:09pm #423465

SubZero
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Yeah Rudeboy, I remember Wade couldn’t hit a 3 to save his life the first few years he was in the league. Luckily, a jump shot is the easiest thing to teach in basketball, and Wall’s best attributes are mainly things that you can’t teach or some people just can’t get
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:15pm #423466

RUDEBOY_
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Yeah, alot of guys come into the league as poor shooters…but the good 1’s work on their weaknesses…
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:15pm #423469

RUDEBOY_
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Yeah, alot of guys come into the league as poor shooters…but the good 1’s work on their weaknesses…
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:19pm #423470

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Na Gilbert is legitimately out with the ankle for the first two games
Mrknick I think you secretly hate the wizards because we might steal your precious 8th seed
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:19pm #423473

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Na Gilbert is legitimately out with the ankle for the first two games
Mrknick I think you secretly hate the wizards because we might steal your precious 8th seed
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:26pm #423474

WizardofOz
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His jumper is a problem, but we all knew it was a problem coming into the season and he’s still young. Give him time. His jumper will get better as time goes on.I heard that he’s been dedicated to improving that jumper, so you know he puts in the work.
He still struggles to create in the half-court which he might struggle with for a while, but is great in transition, wheter he scores or gives an assist. What he needs is good shooters. Once he gets good shooters around him, his play should improve.
Just give him a few years and he will be a top NBA PG.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:26pm #423477

WizardofOz
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His jumper is a problem, but we all knew it was a problem coming into the season and he’s still young. Give him time. His jumper will get better as time goes on.I heard that he’s been dedicated to improving that jumper, so you know he puts in the work.
He still struggles to create in the half-court which he might struggle with for a while, but is great in transition, wheter he scores or gives an assist. What he needs is good shooters. Once he gets good shooters around him, his play should improve.
Just give him a few years and he will be a top NBA PG.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:26pm #423476

TheWizard
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2 of the four blocks which Javale Mcgee had were clearly goaltending. They need to start paying more attention to if the ball has reached its peak when blocked.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:26pm #423479

TheWizard
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2 of the four blocks which Javale Mcgee had were clearly goaltending. They need to start paying more attention to if the ball has reached its peak when blocked.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:32pm #423480

WizardofOz
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Al Thornton has really impressed me with his play. He is very tough and aggressive, has a nice mid-range shot, and plays good D. He showed good work ethic over the offseason because he admitted he was overweight last season and shed some pounds during the offseason. He does need to improve his 3-point shot though.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:32pm #423483

WizardofOz
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Al Thornton has really impressed me with his play. He is very tough and aggressive, has a nice mid-range shot, and plays good D. He showed good work ethic over the offseason because he admitted he was overweight last season and shed some pounds during the offseason. He does need to improve his 3-point shot though.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:47pm #423484

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John Wall reminds me so much of Dwyane Wade when he was younger, that it’s scary. Most also forget that Wade was a PG for the Heat as a rookie too, along with the fact that he lacked range on his shot. Wall shows a promising mid-range game too, for what it’s worth. His shot is below average no matter how you slice it, but he does show the ability to make 15 foot shots off the dribble sporadically, which is kinda rare for a "bad shooter."
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:47pm #423487

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John Wall reminds me so much of Dwyane Wade when he was younger, that it’s scary. Most also forget that Wade was a PG for the Heat as a rookie too, along with the fact that he lacked range on his shot. Wall shows a promising mid-range game too, for what it’s worth. His shot is below average no matter how you slice it, but he does show the ability to make 15 foot shots off the dribble sporadically, which is kinda rare for a "bad shooter."
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:48pm #423486

SubZero
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It makes me so happy to hear you say that Iggy lol
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:48pm #423489

SubZero
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It makes me so happy to hear you say that Iggy lol
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:48pm #423488

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So my next question is does he play sg in the future?
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:48pm #423491

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So my next question is does he play sg in the future?
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:50pm #423492

JNixon
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He probably will be able to play minutes at the SG spot as his jump shot improves, but he’s definitely a PG. He shows too much passing skills to not be a primary PG.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 2:50pm #423495

JNixon
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He probably will be able to play minutes at the SG spot as his jump shot improves, but he’s definitely a PG. He shows too much passing skills to not be a primary PG.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:02pm #423498

OhCanada-
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Would you put Westbrook or Rose at SG if they gained a more reliable jumper? I wouldnt their quickness and strength at the PG position is too much of an advantage to pass up. Imagine if they are able to draft a great SF like Harrison Barnes, or Perry Jones and aqcuire a Center like Gasol this offseason. That would be a very good lineup with McGee getting minutes at PF .
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:02pm #423501

OhCanada-
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Would you put Westbrook or Rose at SG if they gained a more reliable jumper? I wouldnt their quickness and strength at the PG position is too much of an advantage to pass up. Imagine if they are able to draft a great SF like Harrison Barnes, or Perry Jones and aqcuire a Center like Gasol this offseason. That would be a very good lineup with McGee getting minutes at PF .
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:03pm #423500

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And that’s why he was #1
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:03pm #423503

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And that’s why he was #1
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:03pm #423502

Entropy
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Damn! did you guys see wall taking over late in the third, so freaking quick and getting to the line. Looks like D-wade to me.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:03pm #423505

Entropy
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Damn! did you guys see wall taking over late in the third, so freaking quick and getting to the line. Looks like D-wade to me.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:06pm #423504

JNixon
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"Would you put Westbrook or Rose at SG if they gained a more reliable jumper? I wouldnt their quickness and strength at the PG position is too much of an advantage to pass up"
Neither one of them is teamed with a combo guard like Gilbert Arenas/Kirk Hinrich, so they would never have to worry about playing anything besides PG. Situations matter in utilizing player versatility.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:06pm #423507

JNixon
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"Would you put Westbrook or Rose at SG if they gained a more reliable jumper? I wouldnt their quickness and strength at the PG position is too much of an advantage to pass up"
Neither one of them is teamed with a combo guard like Gilbert Arenas/Kirk Hinrich, so they would never have to worry about playing anything besides PG. Situations matter in utilizing player versatility.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:07pm #423508

SubZero
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As a John Wall/Wizards fan, I think it would be better if the Wizards tanked this year instead of getting the 8th seed and getting destroyed by the Heat so they can get another top 5 pick. Next year’s draft’s top 5 is oozing with potential
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:14pm #423512
  
  WizardofOz
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  I’m not saying that the Wizards should tank, but if the Wizards end up losing a lot of games this season and get a top 5 pick, they would be in a good situation because they would be able to get their franchise SF. SF is the Wizards weakest position and they could end up getting a great player like Perry Jones or Harrison Barnes.
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- Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:14pm #423515
  
  WizardofOz
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  I’m not saying that the Wizards should tank, but if the Wizards end up losing a lot of games this season and get a top 5 pick, they would be in a good situation because they would be able to get their franchise SF. SF is the Wizards weakest position and they could end up getting a great player like Perry Jones or Harrison Barnes.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:07pm #423511

SubZero
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As a John Wall/Wizards fan, I think it would be better if the Wizards tanked this year instead of getting the 8th seed and getting destroyed by the Heat so they can get another top 5 pick. Next year’s draft’s top 5 is oozing with potential
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:16pm #423514

andxxx
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Don’t be too sure about that especially with the possibility of a lockout
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:16pm #423517

andxxx
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Don’t be too sure about that especially with the possibility of a lockout
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:23pm #423518

Lotto Stud
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My biggest Wall question is, will he ever be able to go to work in the half court sets?
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:23pm #423521

Lotto Stud
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My biggest Wall question is, will he ever be able to go to work in the half court sets?
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:31pm #423527

SubZero
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Tonight he has 25, 9 assists and 5 rebounds so far.
@WizardOfOz, yeah that’s what I meant. I just think missing the playoffs and getting a potential franchise player is better than barely making the playoffs, getting destroyed and drafting someone that might put in about 8 points a game
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:31pm #423528

SubZero
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Tonight he has 25, 9 assists and 5 rebounds so far.
@WizardOfOz, yeah that’s what I meant. I just think missing the playoffs and getting a potential franchise player is better than barely making the playoffs, getting destroyed and drafting someone that might put in about 8 points a game
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:33pm #423531

OhCanada-
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Why is Wall’s jumpshot money tonight haha 2/2 from 3, 8/10 from the field. Also why does McGee have 7 blocks.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:33pm #423532

OhCanada-
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Why is Wall’s jumpshot money tonight haha 2/2 from 3, 8/10 from the field. Also why does McGee have 7 blocks.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:36pm #423533

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Damn Canada why you hating worry about who the raptors are gonna draft only to leave after his rookie contract is up
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:36pm #423535

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Damn Canada why you hating worry about who the raptors are gonna draft only to leave after his rookie contract is up
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:37pm #423534

SubZero
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McGee’s havin a swat party
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:37pm #423537

SubZero
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McGee’s havin a swat party
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:44pm #423536

sheltwon3
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John Wall will be rookie of the year because he will get the minutes and make Wiz respectable and the 8th spot is for grabs. Also it is better for a younger team to get to the playoffs then back to the lottery. playoff experience no matter how painful is good for young teams growth. I like Blake’s game but he can’t help the Clips by himself and he does not have the personality to go outside of the team’s concept to get points and stats. I am not saying Wall is but Wall is in the position where he is the offense and everything for the Wiz while Arenas is out.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:44pm #423539

sheltwon3
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John Wall will be rookie of the year because he will get the minutes and make Wiz respectable and the 8th spot is for grabs. Also it is better for a younger team to get to the playoffs then back to the lottery. playoff experience no matter how painful is good for young teams growth. I like Blake’s game but he can’t help the Clips by himself and he does not have the personality to go outside of the team’s concept to get points and stats. I am not saying Wall is but Wall is in the position where he is the offense and everything for the Wiz while Arenas is out.
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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:57pm #423542

WizardofOz
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The Wizards lost, but I was impressed by the way they played. John Wall DOMINATED late in the game. He just took over in the 3rd quater and was penetrating and drwing fouls. His jumpshot was also starting to fall.
I was impressed with the way McGee played. He did what he was supposed to do on offense, didn’t make any bonehead plays on defense, and had a block party. 7 BLOCKS!!! CRAZY!
Andray Blatche had a much better game than the first game vs. Orlando. Struggled a bit at the start, but started heaing up late. I agree with what Phil Chenier(Wizards color commentator) said about Blatche not driving to the hole enough. I would rather drive to the hole and draw fouls and shoot lay-ups instead of settling for contested jumpers. But he probably didn’t drive a lot because he still lacks explosiveness because he isn’t in great shape yet because of that broken foot.
Overall, the Wizards played hard.

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Posted on: Sat, 10/30/2010 - 3:57pm #423545

WizardofOz
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The Wizards lost, but I was impressed by the way they played. John Wall DOMINATED late in the game. He just took over in the 3rd quater and was penetrating and drwing fouls. His jumpshot was also starting to fall.
I was impressed with the way McGee played. He did what he was supposed to do on offense, didn’t make any bonehead plays on defense, and had a block party. 7 BLOCKS!!! CRAZY!
Andray Blatche had a much better game than the first game vs. Orlando. Struggled a bit at the start, but started heaing up late. I agree with what Phil Chenier(Wizards color commentator) said about Blatche not driving to the hole enough. I would rather drive to the hole and draw fouls and shoot lay-ups instead of settling for contested jumpers. But he probably didn’t drive a lot because he still lacks explosiveness because he isn’t in great shape yet because of that broken foot.
Overall, the Wizards played hard.

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