Thoughts on how this went down?
Character is doing the right thing when nobody's looking. There are too many people who think that the only thing that's right is to get by, and the only thing that's wrong is to get caught. -J.C. Watts.
He turn a blind eye...those victims are human too.....although i dont know the full extent of the story.
I agree despite not doing anything legally wrong, he chose to let these disgusting actions happen right before his eyes and not do a damn thing to stop it himself. Who knows how many young kids actually got sexually abused, just to think that he could have prevented some or most of them from happening if he just took action.
Also I read somewhere penn state students started to riot, after hearing he got fired....really its sort of pathetic, i mean if penn state isn't getting a bad name from this scandel already, their students make even worse by acting childish
Scott Oant you're spot on with your comment.
Like I said, it's just as bad being aware and not doing anything about and actually abusing these kids. I heard Sandusky befriended troubled youth and became best friends with them and then took advantage of them. It's sick and disgusting but we have to remember pedophilia is a mental disease and these people need help ( In no way shape or form am I justifying his actions ). With that being said, if Paterno called the cops this could have been all prevented.
I was watching Oprah and it was about pedophiles and all of them said they regret what they have done and they wish someone called the cops on them.
The PSU students who were rioting are really stupid. And these stupid hipster kids just want something to riot about and have a reason to do stupid things. I pray for the youth of North America. Life is much more important than football. I don't care if Paterno was there for 46 years, he put his agenda ahead of innocent kids' lives. When I say that, I mean his legacy, his money and his job. Imagine if he did tell the cops that his colleagues were abusing kids. What would have become of him? Again, greed leads to kids being robbed of their innocence and this whole entire scandal to happen.
He turn a blind eye...those victims are human too.....although i dont know the full extent of the story.
It really sucks how this went down. We dont know what Joe Pa was told by the assistant but he should have looked into it more. The university, IMO, had no choice to get rid of everyone involved. The part that makes me mad is that the assistant(as of now to my knowledge) is still going to be on the sidelines for Penn St. He also needs to go. Terrible situation but we need to remember the important thing here. Kids were sexually abuses by Sandusky. He is the monster and should be the one the news is bashing.
Very happy with PSU's decision to fire Joe Pa. If he would have been allowed to just retire and walk out on his own terms, I would have been disgusted. I don't hate Joe Pa, and legally he doesn't deserve punishment. I am all for not being a snitch, but when the victim is fully innocent, especially a woman or child, circumstances change. You make sure that @sshole, hornball, prick, child f-ing monster, gets his @ss thrown in jail where it can get torn up by horny 260 lb assaulters who will not give you a safety word to shout when things get rough. I hope by the end of his sentence he can smuggle watermelons up his @ss.
Joe Pa is getting blamed way too much because hes a big name. Yeah I said it. I agree he didnt do enough. No arguments there but your all acting like he was the only one who did nothing. Hes done more for kids then you tools will ever know and I dont even care about PSU. For you guys to villianize him like this is ridiculous. Especially you M-Dymes. Im sick of you in general but thats another topic. The dude was worked miracles for almost 50 years and you chumps want his legacy tarnished because of one incident where he technically did the right thing. Hell I bet half of you wouldve done the same thing. If one of your friends abused someone I guarantee not everyone here would act the way the say they would on the internet. Stop posting for points or to be cool and realize that JoePa is no villain.
I never said I blame Joe Pa for the incident. I blame him for not talking to the proper authorities, but I agree with you that everyone should be calling for Sandusky's head (as I stated in other posts you may have not read). Don't know why I made you sick of me or why you think Im villianizing him when I clearly have stated that Sandusky's the villian. But I certainly am not gonna apologize for &$#%#&@! you off however I have. I have an opinion just like you and I, just like you, am voicing it. I dont' agree with some people but I dont say I'm sick of them in general.
I ain't posting to be cool or get points. I just wanna talk on a sports forum which is why I'm here. If you got a problem with it, tough luck cuz Im still gonna talk until I get kicked or atleast till I am done college.
No problem with Joe Pa in comparison to the true villian. He just didn't do enough. I think you agree with me cuz that's exactly what I'm saying but you have some predisposition to hate me for whatever purpose. Perviously, I didn't even know you had and issue with me.
And by no means am I a saint The Predator. I have done plenty of things I should not have done at the time. But that being said, if I see a man doing that to a child or if I am reported to by someone I am a superior of (in Joe Pa's case), IDC if that is my boss, the president, Allen Iverson, whoever, I am making sure that man is punished. That is disgusting. Sandusky is a sick human being. Joe just was a coward at this moment. Not evil, but a coward who didn't do his fullest to bring justice...completely.
That right there is something I can respect. But what Im saying is why just Sandusky and JP? Why not the other couple people who did exactly what JP did? I dont even know there names and they did the same thing he did...JP is definitely the scapegoat here.
Clearly JP is being somewhat of a scapegoat, due to his iconic figure and how much he represents PSU. Does that mean I think he shouldn't be punished? No. I think Joe Pa deserved what he got. I also think more people at PSU should be punished and that is what the on going investigation is meant for. I hope once we get more details, more of those who were involved will be removed from PSU.
I don't know how much justice will truly be served as I am positive there will be some individuals who were involved who will lie about it and there will not be enough evidence found where PSU will dismiss them. But, they found evidence on Joe Pa and made him walk. This investigation will take a while if they truly want to find all those involved. That is up to PSU to make sure all those who knew about the incident(s) are punished by the program. Unfortunately, authorities will not be able to legally charge those who were just aware of the incidents. But I'm very pleased they are able to take down Sandusky.
See I think you and I are on the same page The Predator. I hope that your sickness of me was more of a misunderstanding between our views on this very controversial subject matter. I can understand why you would be irrate with someone who wants to put the majority of the blame on a man who was not even the one who committed this felony. I just think that it is just to remove those from PSU who knew about it. I am not limiting that to JP either. His dismissal is magnified due to his iconic figure, but all those who knew about it should face the same penalty, ultimate dismissal from PSU. Still think JP is a hell of a coach and will never deny what he's done for his players and PSUs program. But, still, I am disappointed that he did not step up to the plate and make sure Sandusky was dealt with early, knowing how much say he had at PSU and how much people would respect his say in the matter.
Why is McQueary still allowed to be on staff and coach this weekend?! He was the one who actually caught Sandusky raping a kid MID-RAPE, and didn't think once to step in and kick the living $#17 out of him and call the cops!!!
You are definitely entitled to your opinion. I for one do not think that Paterno is even close to the worst person involved in this case. But, he was a leader and he had a chance to stop something awful. He passed this on and seemed to do incredibly little to do much else. I do not know if you have ever heard of the Rene Portland incident as well, but again, a circumstance that Joe Pa did not address properly. He has done great things, he has helped a lot of people, but these are terrible situations that hurt a number of people involved that he failed to address to the best of his ability.
I have no problem with what M-DYMES said, and while you may not have reported what had happened to the proper authorities, I believe most people would have. Even if they had passed it on to the Athletic Director, as part of protocol, would they not have been more involved in their being a possible investigation? Penn State will always have respect for Joe Paterno, their will be a group of people who will always see him as being an amazing coach and person. Still, I think they had grounds to fire him and move on. This happened under his watch with his knowledge, and than lead to further assaults afterwards. You may never want to be considered a quitter, but I think the proper thing would have been for him to step down rather than have to go through the process of being fired. But, it came to this and I think it was the right thing to do.
Nobody is perfect and I believe in forgiveness for the most part. I know I am not proud of every decision I have made in my life and I have done things that have been poorly thought out, maybe even hurtful. I think we all have made bad decisions at times, sometimes with consequence and sometimes without any. However, one thing I would sincerely hope from this situation is that people will have learn from what happened in the case of Paterno, Curley and Schultz's handling of the Jerry Sandusky allegations. Even if he were innocent, it seems they did not take the allegations as seriously as they should have and did nothing to alert the authorities of the horrible acts Sandusky was seen performing.
Every parent I know of cannot believe the way this was handled and always seem to say, "What it was my child?" even "What if it was their (Paterno's, Curley's or Schultz's) child?". It appears that the people handling this wanted to save their friend rather than address these questions. Joe Paterno is a father and a grandfather, so it is truly shocking to me that their would be so little done in looking into the allegations of 2002. This is why I think most people feel he should be fired. It is a consequence for his actions, or lack of action, around an unspeakable act that he had a chance of putting an end to. So, while we may never have the positive influence of a Paterno, I truly hope that all of us would know what to do in a situation like this and prevent this from happening again. I believe most every poster here would indeed do the right thing. Also, if a coach of any sports team was involved in this, I for one would see no problem with his dismissal. I do not think Paterno is being singled out, because I think the news would be broadcasted the same way if any football coach of a major institution was involved in something like this.
I just heard even more disturbing allegations about this case, Sandusky is rumured to be pimping the young boys he abused to donors as well. This case is really getting even more f@cked up by the day if this is true
Jo Pa deserved to be fired, cause he didn't do everything in his power to stop this sickness, however he is not the biggest culprit. The grad assistant should have called the Police ASAP, and put an end to it imediatly. But instead he chickens out and tells Jo Pa. At least he told someone. Jo Pa should have told the police, and maybe he expected the AD to tell the police. I have no problem with that logic, but should have definatly follwed up and done somthing himself after he realized the ADs weren't going to do sh!t. Now it comes to the ADs, and they just droped the egg, and here it is, it caought up them 9 years later.
Joe pa is a piece of crap. He knew his assistant was molesting kids an he kept him employed. &$#%#&@! that guy. And nobody is using Joe as a scapegoat. It's just that he is the one who is in the media spotlight so he is the one people are gonna talk about. He's not in jail or anything.
Did not see your last post. Everything you said was 100% correct especially the second sentence.
I just wanna hear JoePa say "snitches get stitches" one day, that would make my entire life.