JNixon-Iggy9's Top 50 Players
I would make some minor changes, but for a top 50 list this is solid.
i like it. But i think its hard to call yao top 10 right now knowing he's not supposed to play more then 24 minutes a night for the season. Also, im really not all htat high on rashard lewis. I would take ron artest, rodney stuckey, oj mayo and aaron brooks all over him.
also Westbrook is too high and Duncan and Dirk are way too low...Duncan and Dirk are top 10 ...
It goes like this in my eyes...
1.Kobe..hands down the best...
2.Wade...he's the best player on HIS team, named the Captain and Go To guy In MIA
3.Lebron...I know wow LBJ is Number 3 on my list...but he's not a clucth player like Kobe and he and Wade are equals besides the fact Wade has a ring already...burn...
4.Howard...how is Howard not a lock for top 5
5.Duncan...how is this legendary Big Man not top 5 on your list Iggy, Duncan never finishes lower than 5th in MVP race every year...that means he's a top 5 player period
6.P.Gasol...Gasol is arguably the most skilled PF in the game...and 2 back to back chips helps his cause
7.Paul or Williams...whoever can be considered the best PG goes here...Paul was injured last year but D will has to prove this year he's able to over take Paul's crown...
8.Dirk...name 10 players better than Dirk...yeah I'll wait...
9.Anthony...Insert Melo here..why...he's been a top flight scorer and the only real threat to out score Lebron when going head to head for his entire career...Durant is trying to take that over but 1 season doesn't trump Melo's career...
10.Durant...People are going to flip when they see Durant this low but he's not Better than the Players listed above, and I'd want some examples as to why people may think so...
I know this won't be the most popular opinion, but I really don't care.
I don't even think Kobe is the best player on his team let alone the league. The only time Kobe was the best player on the lakers was the time after Shaq and before Gasol and in that time the lakers were horrible, missing the playoff once and finishing 7th the other 2 years.
and he's hands down the best player in The NBA...ask Lebron if he thinks Kobe is the best...ask Durant who's the best...ask any one in the NBA and most will say Kobe the other half probally have no BBall IQ...
Solid list..I agree with you on your top 7..After you get pass those guys its debatable who is next...But i'll have Lebron number 1..becuz he makes his teammates better..But i'd rather have Kobe taking the last shot...
Even though Duncan is getting old..He's still a top 15 player..
Rashard Lewis is starting to show his age...
And Yao might finish his career as 1 of the most underrated big men..
David Lee lower than Rashard Lewis freaks me out. David Lee is an all-star, Lewis is a huge contract that brings three point shooting to the team
I think Garnett is too high, he is just a bitter jerk now.
a healthy KG is top 20 so Iggy's wrong on that One Too....
Seriously do you even know what the hell your talking about...KG is the key to a Celtic Championship...If he's healthy the Celtics are the Favorites in the East easily...KG being half hurt was the reason the Celtics have lost in the Finals the last two seasons...he'd be rated higher than most of the player's on Iggy's list if he was healthy...I guess you don't understand a players value to a winning Team ...U probally just look at stats and Hollinger's stupid a.s.s PER...KG was the biggest reason the Celtics became a Legendary Team...Allen helped, Pierce has been there forever and he stepped up when he had too, Rondo was a suprise and Perkins,Powe and Big Baby came up time and time during that Run...KG would be near the top 10 if he was Healthy...KG looks very good early on and if he has another 20/10 year in him and leads the Celtics to the Best record in The East(whick I think he does this year) he'll be in the MVP talks...
Lol, why are you trying to make this a contest Scarecrow? It's an opinionated topic on who certain people think is better, not a "my list is better, who agrees" or a "iggy was wrong about that too" type thing. Relax sir. You make everything more than it needs to be lol.
You may have your finger on the College Pulse but when the season comes around I'll be watching too...and I'll better predict who'll be a better NBA player...You can have the College Game and unknown players of the NCAA, I know the NBA like the back of my hand....I don't look at stats I look at the Game and saying that KG is the 25th best player in the entire NBA is a insult...When Healthy Bosh and Dirk can't hold Kevin's jock strap...he's healthy and they'll be tipping it off Tonight...I guarantee that Garnett's impact on the Game is far greater Than Bosh's...so how does that place Bosh so high on your list and Garnett so low...answer that...I'm challenging your Knowledge...Garnett is Better Than Bosh and it's been proven already...KG was the Leader of a Championship team...
Like I said you are not my competition....
Big talk, Scarecrow. Garnett isn't half the player he used to be, he isn't even who he was his first year in Boston. If you watched like claim you do so much you would know that. You're way too ignorant for me to actually argue with you, it's a no win situation so think what you want.
He was the leader of a championship team 3 years ago, with Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen also on his team. RIGHT NOW, Chris Bosh is better than Garnett. The only thing Garnett does better as of now if play D and talk smack/act weird.
And if you think you're smarter than me, that's on you. But ask ANYBODY on this site or on planet Earth that has read each of our posts who's smarter, and see what they'll say. It's very easy to say you are smarter than somebody, but it's a different animal when nobody else agrees. :)
So true Iggy.
you either can't read or don't listen...he is looking close to his old form ( before hurting his knee 1 and a half season's ago)
I seen Garnett recently and he's looking aggressive and healthy...and to be honest Tonight is a true test and possible statement game for him and The Celtics...we can come back to this tonight if you want...I'll be watching...
No. Even if Garnett sucks, scores 2 points on 1/15 shooting with 1 rebound and allows 40 to Bosh, you will stay think your right. Their is no arguing with you. Why waste my time?
I dont care if you have people on here fooled because you copy and paste your opinions on college kids like you have time to actually watch all these games and take all these notes...The real scouts of the world do the work and get paid for it...your on here too much to be considered a possible undercover scout, those guys fly all over the country and are too busy to post on a Draft Forum every day faithfully...
So make your little sly statement afterwards like " See, you take things too seriously, or Yeah, your right Scare Crow what ever..."
Garnett has a Ring and has been to the Dance 2 of the last 3 years...winning 1 title while being the heart and soul of that Team...That Intangible is what seperates KG and Bosh...because you are clearly some stat whore or Espn guy and take KG having an off year due to injury as Bosh is better than KG...
KG is a driving force to NBA Glory...Bosh is stat whore who needed his best friends to make him a house hold name...Garnett was no doubt about a top 5 Player in The NBA after his rookie season...Same as Tim Duncan who you also under value because of some unknown reason...
Now make your funny little comment and duck my points...But if I seen you on the streets and You ever disrespected me, I'd break your face...You can have guys from Philly meet me and give you first hand testamony to me being the realist n.i.g.g.a on this site...my love of basketball is what keeps me posting...
So scared, scarecrow.
I'm actualy a humble dude and I know when to say " My Bad Yup Yup, Bosh is a far better player than KG because that ring on his finger belongs to Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, and he was injured the last two years and still helped his team beat Lebron and the Cavs "...If Bosh outplays KG and helps the Heat Win tonight I'll make an apology Post just for You...I'm not the one with pride...
I'll admit I'm wrong too. But not if he has one good game, we'll reevaluate at mid-season.
I'm not trying to act hard...that's you 2 n.i.g.g.a.s acting like your high and mighty and your opinions are that much better than mine...I gave you fools reasons why KG is better than Bosh and why Iggy's list is flawed and disrespects Legends like KG and Duncan...and then Hypes up Durant like he's top 5 already...
but no one with any knowledge of the game would say that Bosh is a better player than KG or Duncan...so we have to start there...I apologize for being a roughneck about proving my point but the facts are there...
Scarecrow you're really like 27 or however old you said you are and you act like you do? Like really? When I'm 27, I probably will never or hardly ever be on here arguing with kids and acting lame like you do. I would probably be married, have a career dealing with basketball, and doing whatever 27 year old people do.
You on the other hand, are a guy who overrates his own knowledge, conducts their self like they are 10+ years younger than they actually are, and just pretty much doesn't bring anything but people who laugh at you, not with you, on a forum site. You go from posting retarded trades to stating that I copy and paste scouting reports. If I did copy and paste these reports, don't you think you'd be able to find them on the internet? I watch games and often when I'm on this site I talk about games as they take place live (maybe you came on this site too late to know that we did that). Just because I am willing to work at doing something I think I have a future in, doesn't mean that you are "smarter than me" and I just "look at stats". Because it's quite the contrary.
"I know Mr Knick...Because Bosh as won a ring
Bosh is a better scorer...Garnett is better player...period"
You might want to use that "Garnett has a ring, Bosh doesn't" argument while you can sir. Garnett won a title 3 years ago and Bosh is a better player right now than he is. D.J. Mbenga has 2 rings. By your (retarded) logic, he is a better basketball player than Bosh too.
I'm not scared, that was clearly sarcasm. Also I never said anything about my knowledge being better then anyone elses. Trust me, I am in no way, shape or form afraid of you in the slightest.
How dare I challenge the Great Iggy-JNixon and his infinite basketball knowledge...and then we have the all powerful Mr Knick too...how dare I speak up to these dudes...They are bigger the Forum and the thoughts of all the other posters
It's not that we think we're bigger than the posters. We don't. It's just that YOU try to make your own self out to be better than everybody. If anybody think they are bigger than the posters it's you. You say stuff like "I'm the most popular poster" and "make me forum MVP". LMAO. A grown ass man begging to be the forum MVP. Sad, I must say.
Never said I was more powerful of the forums. I just disagree. In fact, Career wise, Bosh and Garnett are very similar in the ways thier careers are panning out. NOT NUMBERS WISE.
on that Team,..he was the leader and heart and soul of that Championship Team...u keep saying that was 3 years ago and Bosh is better today...But KG is still a top 5 defender and rebounder and can match Bosh point for point...he has arguablly a better all around game then Bosh does with 1 leg, now he has 2...what has Bosh done besides miss the playoffs up in Toronto and running into the arms of Wade and Lebron this summer...he's proven to every one he's a also ran not a lead dog...KG is a Lead Dog and was the key to the Celtics being the Contenders they are Today...
i personally think garnett is better than bosh too. but it might be because i hate bosh. i think bosh is going to act hard all of a sudden because he has lebron and wade. i hate chris bosh. also i didnt like the argument that garnett is an 18 and 8 guy at best. thats on the celtics with multiple options.
maybe its because of the past that i think this way but if i had to choose 1 pf for 1 year of basketball, i would choose duncan, garnett, stoudemire, nowitzki, then bosh. maybe its because the other guys have had better teams. idk, i just feel bosh is extremely overrated. he is an all star caliber player but he just has never struck me as a winner. thats why i choose duncan, garnett, stoudemire and dirk over him. even on good teams, they have carried the load at times during the playoffs.
Bosh on Toronto was a 24-10-1.5 guy. Garnett today is a 18-8 guy at best. Bosh also had TERRIBLE teammates when he played in Toronto. He (Like LeBron) played with no #2 and below average #3 guys.
I'm the most hated on poster because I have my own opinion and I don't follow a script...and what i say isn't the popular opinion...I've called out every body and I'm not afraid to tell it how it is, not how you and others want it to be...
Who here follows a script? Pretty sure I don't.
I'm the most hated on poster because I have my own opinion and I don't follow a script...and what i say isn't the popular opinion...I've called out every body and I'm not afraid to tell it how it is, not how you and others want it to be...
This guy...congrats, your the dude who's goes the other way just to argue. That and 50 cents will get you some M&M's from the corner store. Noone hates you but you are annoying.
so who thinks miami would be better with garnett? duncan? stoudemire? dirk? rather than bosh. i dont care how bad boshs team was. david lee was on a bad team, put up similar numbers and is number 50 on this list.
Rashard Lewis is not a top 50 player right now, Paul Pierce should be lower.
John Wall is better than Brandon Jennings, therefore either Jennings needs to go or Wall needs to be added. If you watched the Milwaukee/Washington pre-season game you know who's better.
Blake Griffin is better than LaMarcus Aldridge so Aldridge too high. Also David Lee is so much better than Aldridge it's scary....Lee obviously needs to be higher.
I agree with your top 10 although I may put KD 3rd and Wade 4th.
If I had to pick between the two (Bosh and Garnett) in a playoff series, gemmie Garnett... Stats dont mean nothing when it comes to the playoffs when players have to match up primarily aganist each other (thats how you really know was is the better player: HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS).. Bosh is younger than Garnett, so hes got more energy to put up bigger regular season numbers than Garnett...
"Bosh and Garnett are very similar in the ways thier careers are panning out. NOT NUMBERS WISE."
That statement is crazy, when Garnett was in his 8th season he was a BEAST and top 5 NBA player... Also, when Garnett was in his 8th season he had the ability to carry a team to the playoffs and he was on his way to the HOF...
"John Wall is better than Brandon Jennings, therefore either Jennings needs to go or Wall needs to be added. If you watched the Milwaukee/Washington pre-season game you know who's better."
Horrible, horrible way to judge who's better. Wall hasn't played a season yet, and there are more than just Jennings he'll have to outplay for me to chance my mind as of right now.
"Blake Griffin is better than LaMarcus Aldridge so Aldridge too high."
Basing this on the preseason again? Griffin hasn't played a regular season game yet. Once again, horrible way to judge who's better.
Obvious things are a horrible way to judge right?










Had to revisit my list for OPENING NIGHT!:
Top 50:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Kevin Durant
5. Chris Paul
6. Dwight Howard
7. Carmelo Anthony
8. Yao Ming
9. Pau Gasol
10. Deron Williams
11. Dirk Nowitzki
12. Chris Bosh
13. Steve Nash
14. Brandon Roy
15. Amare Stoudemire
16. Derrick Rose
17. Tim Duncan
18. Paul Pierce
19. Joe Johnson
20. Rajon Rondo
21. Tony Parker
22. Danny Granger
23. Andrew Bogut
24. Al Jefferson
25. Kevin Garnett
26. Manu Ginobili
27. Tyreke Evans
28. Andre Iguodala
29. Russell Westbrook
30.Chauncey Billups
31. Josh Smith
32. Rudy Gay
33. Gilbert Arenas
34. Carlos Boozer
35. Brandon Jennings
36. ChrisKaman 37. Brook Lopez
38. Caron Butler
39. Zach Randolph
40. Stephen Jackson
41. Monta Ellis
42. O.J. Mayo
43. David West
44. Kevin Love
45. Gerald Wallace
46. Jason Kidd
47. LaMarcus Aldridge
48. Marc Gasol
49. Rashard Lewis
50. David Lee