JNixon-Iggy9's Top 50 Players

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 4:44am #22542

JNixon
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Had to revisit my list for OPENING NIGHT!:
Top 50:
1. Kobe Bryant
2. Lebron James
3. Dwyane Wade
4. Kevin Durant
5. Chris Paul
6. Dwight Howard
7. Carmelo Anthony
8. Yao Ming
9. Pau Gasol
10. Deron Williams

11. Dirk Nowitzki
12. Chris Bosh
13. Steve Nash
14. Brandon Roy
15. Amare Stoudemire
16. Derrick Rose
17. Tim Duncan
18. Paul Pierce
19. Joe Johnson
20. Rajon Rondo
21. Tony Parker
22. Danny Granger
23. Andrew Bogut
24. Al Jefferson
25. Kevin Garnett
26. Manu Ginobili
27. Tyreke Evans
28. Andre Iguodala
29. Russell Westbrook
30.Chauncey Billups
31. Josh Smith
32. Rudy Gay
33. Gilbert Arenas
34. Carlos Boozer
35. Brandon Jennings
36. ChrisKaman 37. Brook Lopez
38. Caron Butler
39. Zach Randolph
40. Stephen Jackson
41. Monta Ellis
42. O.J. Mayo
43. David West
44. Kevin Love
45. Gerald Wallace
46. Jason Kidd
47. LaMarcus Aldridge
48. Marc Gasol
49. Rashard Lewis
50. David Lee

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 4:49am #418977

mikeyvthedon
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I would make some minor changes, but for a top 50 list this is solid.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 4:49am #418983

mikeyvthedon
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I would make some minor changes, but for a top 50 list this is solid.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 4:53am #418984

llperez
i like it. But i think its hard to call yao top 10 right now knowing he’s not supposed to play more then 24 minutes a night for the season. Also, im really not all htat high on rashard lewis. I would take ron artest, rodney stuckey, oj mayo and aaron brooks all over him.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 4:53am #418990

llperez
i like it. But i think its hard to call yao top 10 right now knowing he’s not supposed to play more then 24 minutes a night for the season. Also, im really not all htat high on rashard lewis. I would take ron artest, rodney stuckey, oj mayo and aaron brooks all over him.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 4:54am #418985

IndianaBasketball
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Same here. I’d probably switch a few players around, but solid list.
I don’t know if Yao is a top ten player anymore though. I’d move Dirk up there.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 4:54am #418992

IndianaBasketball
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Same here. I’d probably switch a few players around, but solid list.
I don’t know if Yao is a top ten player anymore though. I’d move Dirk up there.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 5:12am #418995

The Scare Crow Returns
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also Westbrook is too high and Duncan and Dirk are way too low…Duncan and Dirk are top 10 …
It goes like this in my eyes…
1.Kobe..hands down the best…
2.Wade…he’s the best player on HIS team, named the Captain and Go To guy In MIA
3.Lebron…I know wow LBJ is Number 3 on my list…but he’s not a clucth player like Kobe and he and Wade are equals besides the fact Wade has a ring already…burn…
4.Howard…how is Howard not a lock for top 5
5.Duncan…how is this legendary Big Man not top 5 on your list Iggy, Duncan never finishes lower than 5th in MVP race every year…that means he’s a top 5 player period
6.P.Gasol…Gasol is arguably the most skilled PF in the game…and 2 back to back chips helps his cause
7.Paul or Williams…whoever can be considered the best PG goes here…Paul was injured last year but D will has to prove this year he’s able to over take Paul’s crown…
8.Dirk…name 10 players better than Dirk…yeah I’ll wait…
9.Anthony…Insert Melo here..why…he’s been a top flight scorer and the only real threat to out score Lebron when going head to head for his entire career…Durant is trying to take that over but 1 season doesn’t trump Melo’s career…
10.Durant…People are going to flip when they see Durant this low but he’s not Better than the Players listed above, and I’d want some examples as to why people may think so…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 5:12am #419002

The Scare Crow Returns
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also Westbrook is too high and Duncan and Dirk are way too low…Duncan and Dirk are top 10 …
It goes like this in my eyes…
1.Kobe..hands down the best…
2.Wade…he’s the best player on HIS team, named the Captain and Go To guy In MIA
3.Lebron…I know wow LBJ is Number 3 on my list…but he’s not a clucth player like Kobe and he and Wade are equals besides the fact Wade has a ring already…burn…
4.Howard…how is Howard not a lock for top 5
5.Duncan…how is this legendary Big Man not top 5 on your list Iggy, Duncan never finishes lower than 5th in MVP race every year…that means he’s a top 5 player period
6.P.Gasol…Gasol is arguably the most skilled PF in the game…and 2 back to back chips helps his cause
7.Paul or Williams…whoever can be considered the best PG goes here…Paul was injured last year but D will has to prove this year he’s able to over take Paul’s crown…
8.Dirk…name 10 players better than Dirk…yeah I’ll wait…
9.Anthony…Insert Melo here..why…he’s been a top flight scorer and the only real threat to out score Lebron when going head to head for his entire career…Durant is trying to take that over but 1 season doesn’t trump Melo’s career…
10.Durant…People are going to flip when they see Durant this low but he’s not Better than the Players listed above, and I’d want some examples as to why people may think so…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 5:13am #418997

Mr. 19134
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I like the list except I think you have Al Jefferson, Kamen, and Boozer all too low.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 5:13am #419004

Mr. 19134
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I like the list except I think you have Al Jefferson, Kamen, and Boozer all too low.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 5:27am #419013

TokenWhiteGuy
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I know this won’t be the most popular opinion, but I really don’t care.
I don’t even think Kobe is the best player on his team let alone the league. The only time Kobe was the best player on the lakers was the time after Shaq and before Gasol and in that time the lakers were horrible, missing the playoff once and finishing 7th the other 2 years.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 5:27am #419020

TokenWhiteGuy
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I know this won’t be the most popular opinion, but I really don’t care.
I don’t even think Kobe is the best player on his team let alone the league. The only time Kobe was the best player on the lakers was the time after Shaq and before Gasol and in that time the lakers were horrible, missing the playoff once and finishing 7th the other 2 years.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 6:01am #419033

The Scare Crow Returns
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and he’s hands down the best player in The NBA…ask Lebron if he thinks Kobe is the best…ask Durant who’s the best…ask any one in the NBA and most will say Kobe the other half probally have no BBall IQ…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 6:01am #419040

The Scare Crow Returns
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and he’s hands down the best player in The NBA…ask Lebron if he thinks Kobe is the best…ask Durant who’s the best…ask any one in the NBA and most will say Kobe the other half probally have no BBall IQ…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 6:20am #419043

RUDEBOY_
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Solid list..I agree with you on your top 7..After you get pass those guys its debatable who is next…But i’ll have Lebron number 1..becuz he makes his teammates better..But i’d rather have Kobe taking the last shot…
Even though Duncan is getting old..He’s still a top 15 player..
Rashard Lewis is starting to show his age…
And Yao might finish his career as 1 of the most underrated big men..
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 6:20am #419050

RUDEBOY_
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Solid list..I agree with you on your top 7..After you get pass those guys its debatable who is next…But i’ll have Lebron number 1..becuz he makes his teammates better..But i’d rather have Kobe taking the last shot…
Even though Duncan is getting old..He’s still a top 15 player..
Rashard Lewis is starting to show his age…
And Yao might finish his career as 1 of the most underrated big men..
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 7:02am #419057

John-Bryant-54
I still think Paul and Howard are better than Durant at the moment.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 7:02am #419064

John-Bryant-54
I still think Paul and Howard are better than Durant at the moment.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:20am #419088

Anton123
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David Lee lower than Rashard Lewis freaks me out. David Lee is an all-star, Lewis is a huge contract that brings three point shooting to the team
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:20am #419096

Anton123
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David Lee lower than Rashard Lewis freaks me out. David Lee is an all-star, Lewis is a huge contract that brings three point shooting to the team
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:25am #419090

The Scare Crow Returns
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who agrees???
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:25am #419098

The Scare Crow Returns
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who agrees???
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:30am #419093

Hale
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I think Garnett is too high, he is just a bitter jerk now.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:30am #419101

Hale
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I think Garnett is too high, he is just a bitter jerk now.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:39am #419099

The Scare Crow Returns
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a healthy KG is top 20 so Iggy’s wrong on that One Too….
Seriously do you even know what the hell your talking about…KG is the key to a Celtic Championship…If he’s healthy the Celtics are the Favorites in the East easily…KG being half hurt was the reason the Celtics have lost in the Finals the last two seasons…he’d be rated higher than most of the player’s on Iggy’s list if he was healthy…I guess you don’t understand a players value to a winning Team …U probally just look at stats and Hollinger’s stupid a.s.s PER…KG was the biggest reason the Celtics became a Legendary Team…Allen helped, Pierce has been there forever and he stepped up when he had too, Rondo was a suprise and Perkins,Powe and Big Baby came up time and time during that Run…KG would be near the top 10 if he was Healthy…KG looks very good early on and if he has another 20/10 year in him and leads the Celtics to the Best record in The East(whick I think he does this year) he’ll be in the MVP talks…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:39am #419107

The Scare Crow Returns
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a healthy KG is top 20 so Iggy’s wrong on that One Too….
Seriously do you even know what the hell your talking about…KG is the key to a Celtic Championship…If he’s healthy the Celtics are the Favorites in the East easily…KG being half hurt was the reason the Celtics have lost in the Finals the last two seasons…he’d be rated higher than most of the player’s on Iggy’s list if he was healthy…I guess you don’t understand a players value to a winning Team …U probally just look at stats and Hollinger’s stupid a.s.s PER…KG was the biggest reason the Celtics became a Legendary Team…Allen helped, Pierce has been there forever and he stepped up when he had too, Rondo was a suprise and Perkins,Powe and Big Baby came up time and time during that Run…KG would be near the top 10 if he was Healthy…KG looks very good early on and if he has another 20/10 year in him and leads the Celtics to the Best record in The East(whick I think he does this year) he’ll be in the MVP talks…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:45am #419100

JNixon
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Lol, why are you trying to make this a contest Scarecrow? It’s an opinionated topic on who certain people think is better, not a "my list is better, who agrees" or a "iggy was wrong about that too" type thing. Relax sir. You make everything more than it needs to be lol.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:45am #419109

JNixon
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Lol, why are you trying to make this a contest Scarecrow? It’s an opinionated topic on who certain people think is better, not a "my list is better, who agrees" or a "iggy was wrong about that too" type thing. Relax sir. You make everything more than it needs to be lol.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:57am #419108

The Scare Crow Returns
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You may have your finger on the College Pulse but when the season comes around I’ll be watching too…and I’ll better predict who’ll be a better NBA player…You can have the College Game and unknown players of the NCAA, I know the NBA like the back of my hand….I don’t look at stats I look at the Game and saying that KG is the 25th best player in the entire NBA is a insult…When Healthy Bosh and Dirk can’t hold Kevin’s jock strap…he’s healthy and they’ll be tipping it off Tonight…I guarantee that Garnett’s impact on the Game is far greater Than Bosh’s…so how does that place Bosh so high on your list and Garnett so low…answer that…I’m challenging your Knowledge…Garnett is Better Than Bosh and it’s been proven already…KG was the Leader of a Championship team…
Like I said you are not my competition….
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 8:57am #419117

The Scare Crow Returns
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You may have your finger on the College Pulse but when the season comes around I’ll be watching too…and I’ll better predict who’ll be a better NBA player…You can have the College Game and unknown players of the NCAA, I know the NBA like the back of my hand….I don’t look at stats I look at the Game and saying that KG is the 25th best player in the entire NBA is a insult…When Healthy Bosh and Dirk can’t hold Kevin’s jock strap…he’s healthy and they’ll be tipping it off Tonight…I guarantee that Garnett’s impact on the Game is far greater Than Bosh’s…so how does that place Bosh so high on your list and Garnett so low…answer that…I’m challenging your Knowledge…Garnett is Better Than Bosh and it’s been proven already…KG was the Leader of a Championship team…
Like I said you are not my competition….
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:03am #419116

Hale
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Big talk, Scarecrow. Garnett isn’t half the player he used to be, he isn’t even who he was his first year in Boston. If you watched like claim you do so much you would know that. You’re way too ignorant for me to actually argue with you, it’s a no win situation so think what you want.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:03am #419125

Hale
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Big talk, Scarecrow. Garnett isn’t half the player he used to be, he isn’t even who he was his first year in Boston. If you watched like claim you do so much you would know that. You’re way too ignorant for me to actually argue with you, it’s a no win situation so think what you want.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:07am #419120

JNixon
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He was the leader of a championship team 3 years ago, with Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen also on his team. RIGHT NOW, Chris Bosh is better than Garnett. The only thing Garnett does better as of now if play D and talk smack/act weird.
And if you think you’re smarter than me, that’s on you. But ask ANYBODY on this site or on planet Earth that has read each of our posts who’s smarter, and see what they’ll say. It’s very easy to say you are smarter than somebody, but it’s a different animal when nobody else agrees. 🙂
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:07am #419129

JNixon
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He was the leader of a championship team 3 years ago, with Rajon Rondo, Paul Pierce and Ray Allen also on his team. RIGHT NOW, Chris Bosh is better than Garnett. The only thing Garnett does better as of now if play D and talk smack/act weird.
And if you think you’re smarter than me, that’s on you. But ask ANYBODY on this site or on planet Earth that has read each of our posts who’s smarter, and see what they’ll say. It’s very easy to say you are smarter than somebody, but it’s a different animal when nobody else agrees. 🙂
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:08am #419126

Hale
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So true Iggy.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:08am #419135

Hale
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So true Iggy.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:08am #419128

The Scare Crow Returns
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you either can’t read or don’t listen…he is looking close to his old form ( before hurting his knee 1 and a half season’s ago)
I seen Garnett recently and he’s looking aggressive and healthy…and to be honest Tonight is a true test and possible statement game for him and The Celtics…we can come back to this tonight if you want…I’ll be watching…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:08am #419137

The Scare Crow Returns
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you either can’t read or don’t listen…he is looking close to his old form ( before hurting his knee 1 and a half season’s ago)
I seen Garnett recently and he’s looking aggressive and healthy…and to be honest Tonight is a true test and possible statement game for him and The Celtics…we can come back to this tonight if you want…I’ll be watching…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:13am #419136

Hale
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No. Even if Garnett sucks, scores 2 points on 1/15 shooting with 1 rebound and allows 40 to Bosh, you will stay think your right. Their is no arguing with you. Why waste my time?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:13am #419144

Hale
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No. Even if Garnett sucks, scores 2 points on 1/15 shooting with 1 rebound and allows 40 to Bosh, you will stay think your right. Their is no arguing with you. Why waste my time?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:13am #419143

Mr.Knick 32
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I don’t think Kobe is better then LeBron
where’s Stephen Curry?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:13am #419150

Mr.Knick 32
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I don’t think Kobe is better then LeBron
where’s Stephen Curry?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:19am #419155

JNixon
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I took Curry out and put in Chris Kaman.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:19am #419162

JNixon
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I took Curry out and put in Chris Kaman.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:20am #419159

The Scare Crow Returns
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I dont care if you have people on here fooled because you copy and paste your opinions on college kids like you have time to actually watch all these games and take all these notes…The real scouts of the world do the work and get paid for it…your on here too much to be considered a possible undercover scout, those guys fly all over the country and are too busy to post on a Draft Forum every day faithfully…
So make your little sly statement afterwards like " See, you take things too seriously, or Yeah, your right Scare Crow what ever…"
Garnett has a Ring and has been to the Dance 2 of the last 3 years…winning 1 title while being the heart and soul of that Team…That Intangible is what seperates KG and Bosh…because you are clearly some stat whore or Espn guy and take KG having an off year due to injury as Bosh is better than KG…
KG is a driving force to NBA Glory…Bosh is stat whore who needed his best friends to make him a house hold name…Garnett was no doubt about a top 5 Player in The NBA after his rookie season…Same as Tim Duncan who you also under value because of some unknown reason…
Now make your funny little comment and duck my points…But if I seen you on the streets and You ever disrespected me, I’d break your face…You can have guys from Philly meet me and give you first hand testamony to me being the realist n.i.g.g.a on this site…my love of basketball is what keeps me posting…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:20am #419165

The Scare Crow Returns
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I dont care if you have people on here fooled because you copy and paste your opinions on college kids like you have time to actually watch all these games and take all these notes…The real scouts of the world do the work and get paid for it…your on here too much to be considered a possible undercover scout, those guys fly all over the country and are too busy to post on a Draft Forum every day faithfully…
So make your little sly statement afterwards like " See, you take things too seriously, or Yeah, your right Scare Crow what ever…"
Garnett has a Ring and has been to the Dance 2 of the last 3 years…winning 1 title while being the heart and soul of that Team…That Intangible is what seperates KG and Bosh…because you are clearly some stat whore or Espn guy and take KG having an off year due to injury as Bosh is better than KG…
KG is a driving force to NBA Glory…Bosh is stat whore who needed his best friends to make him a house hold name…Garnett was no doubt about a top 5 Player in The NBA after his rookie season…Same as Tim Duncan who you also under value because of some unknown reason…
Now make your funny little comment and duck my points…But if I seen you on the streets and You ever disrespected me, I’d break your face…You can have guys from Philly meet me and give you first hand testamony to me being the realist n.i.g.g.a on this site…my love of basketball is what keeps me posting…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:23am #419161

Hale
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So scared, scarecrow.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:23am #419167

Hale
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So scared, scarecrow.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:28am #419172

The Scare Crow Returns
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I’m actualy a humble dude and I know when to say " My Bad Yup Yup, Bosh is a far better player than KG because that ring on his finger belongs to Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, and he was injured the last two years and still helped his team beat Lebron and the Cavs "…If Bosh outplays KG and helps the Heat Win tonight I’ll make an apology Post just for You…I’m not the one with pride…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:28am #419177

The Scare Crow Returns
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I’m actualy a humble dude and I know when to say " My Bad Yup Yup, Bosh is a far better player than KG because that ring on his finger belongs to Ray Allen and Paul Pierce, and he was injured the last two years and still helped his team beat Lebron and the Cavs "…If Bosh outplays KG and helps the Heat Win tonight I’ll make an apology Post just for You…I’m not the one with pride…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:29am #419174

Mr.Knick 32
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Kevin Garnett healthy is like a 18-8 guy. I don’t think that’s top 25 imo.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:29am #419179

Mr.Knick 32
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Kevin Garnett healthy is like a 18-8 guy. I don’t think that’s top 25 imo.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:30am #419180

Hale
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I’ll admit I’m wrong too. But not if he has one good game, we’ll reevaluate at mid-season.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:30am #419185

Hale
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I’ll admit I’m wrong too. But not if he has one good game, we’ll reevaluate at mid-season.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:34am #419186

The Scare Crow Returns
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I’m not trying to act hard…that’s you 2 n.i.g.g.a.s acting like your high and mighty and your opinions are that much better than mine…I gave you fools reasons why KG is better than Bosh and why Iggy’s list is flawed and disrespects Legends like KG and Duncan…and then Hypes up Durant like he’s top 5 already…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:34am #419191

The Scare Crow Returns
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I’m not trying to act hard…that’s you 2 n.i.g.g.a.s acting like your high and mighty and your opinions are that much better than mine…I gave you fools reasons why KG is better than Bosh and why Iggy’s list is flawed and disrespects Legends like KG and Duncan…and then Hypes up Durant like he’s top 5 already…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:36am #419190

Mr.Knick 32
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Kevin Garnett is not better then Bosh. It’s not even close man.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:36am #419195

Mr.Knick 32
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Kevin Garnett is not better then Bosh. It’s not even close man.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:40am #419196

The Scare Crow Returns
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but no one with any knowledge of the game would say that Bosh is a better player than KG or Duncan…so we have to start there…I apologize for being a roughneck about proving my point but the facts are there…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:40am #419201

The Scare Crow Returns
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but no one with any knowledge of the game would say that Bosh is a better player than KG or Duncan…so we have to start there…I apologize for being a roughneck about proving my point but the facts are there…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:45am #419202

The Scare Crow Returns
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Bosh is a better scorer…Garnett is better player…period
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:45am #419207

The Scare Crow Returns
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Bosh is a better scorer…Garnett is better player…period
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:48am #419206

JNixon
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"I know Mr Knick…Because Bosh as won a ring
Bosh is a better scorer…Garnett is better player…period"
You might want to use that "Garnett has a ring, Bosh doesn’t" argument while you can sir. Garnett won a title 3 years ago and Bosh is a better player right now than he is. D.J. Mbenga has 2 rings. By your (retarded) logic, he is a better basketball player than Bosh too.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:48am #419211

JNixon
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"I know Mr Knick…Because Bosh as won a ring
Bosh is a better scorer…Garnett is better player…period"
You might want to use that "Garnett has a ring, Bosh doesn’t" argument while you can sir. Garnett won a title 3 years ago and Bosh is a better player right now than he is. D.J. Mbenga has 2 rings. By your (retarded) logic, he is a better basketball player than Bosh too.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:49am #419204

JNixon
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Scarecrow you’re really like 27 or however old you said you are and you act like you do? Like really? When I’m 27, I probably will never or hardly ever be on here arguing with kids and acting lame like you do. I would probably be married, have a career dealing with basketball, and doing whatever 27 year old people do.
You on the other hand, are a guy who overrates his own knowledge, conducts their self like they are 10+ years younger than they actually are, and just pretty much doesn’t bring anything but people who laugh at you, not with you, on a forum site. You go from posting retarded trades to stating that I copy and paste scouting reports. If I did copy and paste these reports, don’t you think you’d be able to find them on the internet? I watch games and often when I’m on this site I talk about games as they take place live (maybe you came on this site too late to know that we did that). Just because I am willing to work at doing something I think I have a future in, doesn’t mean that you are "smarter than me" and I just "look at stats". Because it’s quite the contrary.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:49am #419209

JNixon
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Scarecrow you’re really like 27 or however old you said you are and you act like you do? Like really? When I’m 27, I probably will never or hardly ever be on here arguing with kids and acting lame like you do. I would probably be married, have a career dealing with basketball, and doing whatever 27 year old people do.
You on the other hand, are a guy who overrates his own knowledge, conducts their self like they are 10+ years younger than they actually are, and just pretty much doesn’t bring anything but people who laugh at you, not with you, on a forum site. You go from posting retarded trades to stating that I copy and paste scouting reports. If I did copy and paste these reports, don’t you think you’d be able to find them on the internet? I watch games and often when I’m on this site I talk about games as they take place live (maybe you came on this site too late to know that we did that). Just because I am willing to work at doing something I think I have a future in, doesn’t mean that you are "smarter than me" and I just "look at stats". Because it’s quite the contrary.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:50am #419212

Hale
Participant
I’m not scared, that was clearly sarcasm. Also I never said anything about my knowledge being better then anyone elses. Trust me, I am in no way, shape or form afraid of you in the slightest.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:50am #419217

Hale
Participant
I’m not scared, that was clearly sarcasm. Also I never said anything about my knowledge being better then anyone elses. Trust me, I am in no way, shape or form afraid of you in the slightest.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:55am #419218

The Scare Crow Returns
Participant
How dare I challenge the Great Iggy-JNixon and his infinite basketball knowledge…and then we have the all powerful Mr Knick too…how dare I speak up to these dudes…They are bigger the Forum and the thoughts of all the other posters
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:55am #419223

The Scare Crow Returns
Participant
How dare I challenge the Great Iggy-JNixon and his infinite basketball knowledge…and then we have the all powerful Mr Knick too…how dare I speak up to these dudes…They are bigger the Forum and the thoughts of all the other posters
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:58am #419220

JNixon
Participant
It’s not that we think we’re bigger than the posters. We don’t. It’s just that YOU try to make your own self out to be better than everybody. If anybody think they are bigger than the posters it’s you. You say stuff like "I’m the most popular poster" and "make me forum MVP". LMAO. A grown ass man begging to be the forum MVP. Sad, I must say.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 9:58am #419225

JNixon
Participant
It’s not that we think we’re bigger than the posters. We don’t. It’s just that YOU try to make your own self out to be better than everybody. If anybody think they are bigger than the posters it’s you. You say stuff like "I’m the most popular poster" and "make me forum MVP". LMAO. A grown ass man begging to be the forum MVP. Sad, I must say.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:00am #419224

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
Never said I was more powerful of the forums. I just disagree. In fact, Career wise, Bosh and Garnett are very similar in the ways thier careers are panning out. NOT NUMBERS WISE.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:00am #419229

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
Never said I was more powerful of the forums. I just disagree. In fact, Career wise, Bosh and Garnett are very similar in the ways thier careers are panning out. NOT NUMBERS WISE.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:00am #419228

The Scare Crow Returns
Participant
on that Team,..he was the leader and heart and soul of that Championship Team…u keep saying that was 3 years ago and Bosh is better today…But KG is still a top 5 defender and rebounder and can match Bosh point for point…he has arguablly a better all around game then Bosh does with 1 leg, now he has 2…what has Bosh done besides miss the playoffs up in Toronto and running into the arms of Wade and Lebron this summer…he’s proven to every one he’s a also ran not a lead dog…KG is a Lead Dog and was the key to the Celtics being the Contenders they are Today…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:00am #419233

The Scare Crow Returns
Participant
on that Team,..he was the leader and heart and soul of that Championship Team…u keep saying that was 3 years ago and Bosh is better today…But KG is still a top 5 defender and rebounder and can match Bosh point for point…he has arguablly a better all around game then Bosh does with 1 leg, now he has 2…what has Bosh done besides miss the playoffs up in Toronto and running into the arms of Wade and Lebron this summer…he’s proven to every one he’s a also ran not a lead dog…KG is a Lead Dog and was the key to the Celtics being the Contenders they are Today…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:01am #419230

joecheck88
Participant
i personally think garnett is better than bosh too. but it might be because i hate bosh. i think bosh is going to act hard all of a sudden because he has lebron and wade. i hate chris bosh. also i didnt like the argument that garnett is an 18 and 8 guy at best. thats on the celtics with multiple options.
maybe its because of the past that i think this way but if i had to choose 1 pf for 1 year of basketball, i would choose duncan, garnett, stoudemire, nowitzki, then bosh. maybe its because the other guys have had better teams. idk, i just feel bosh is extremely overrated. he is an all star caliber player but he just has never struck me as a winner. thats why i choose duncan, garnett, stoudemire and dirk over him. even on good teams, they have carried the load at times during the playoffs.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:01am #419235

joecheck88
Participant
i personally think garnett is better than bosh too. but it might be because i hate bosh. i think bosh is going to act hard all of a sudden because he has lebron and wade. i hate chris bosh. also i didnt like the argument that garnett is an 18 and 8 guy at best. thats on the celtics with multiple options.
maybe its because of the past that i think this way but if i had to choose 1 pf for 1 year of basketball, i would choose duncan, garnett, stoudemire, nowitzki, then bosh. maybe its because the other guys have had better teams. idk, i just feel bosh is extremely overrated. he is an all star caliber player but he just has never struck me as a winner. thats why i choose duncan, garnett, stoudemire and dirk over him. even on good teams, they have carried the load at times during the playoffs.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:06am #419236

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
Bosh on Toronto was a 24-10-1.5 guy. Garnett today is a 18-8 guy at best. Bosh also had TERRIBLE teammates when he played in Toronto. He (Like LeBron) played with no #2 and below average #3 guys.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:06am #419241

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
Bosh on Toronto was a 24-10-1.5 guy. Garnett today is a 18-8 guy at best. Bosh also had TERRIBLE teammates when he played in Toronto. He (Like LeBron) played with no #2 and below average #3 guys.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:09am #419240

The Scare Crow Returns
Participant
I’m the most hated on poster because I have my own opinion and I don’t follow a script…and what i say isn’t the popular opinion…I’ve called out every body and I’m not afraid to tell it how it is, not how you and others want it to be…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:09am #419245

The Scare Crow Returns
Participant
I’m the most hated on poster because I have my own opinion and I don’t follow a script…and what i say isn’t the popular opinion…I’ve called out every body and I’m not afraid to tell it how it is, not how you and others want it to be…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:10am #419244

Hale
Participant
Who here follows a script? Pretty sure I don’t.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:10am #419249

Hale
Participant
Who here follows a script? Pretty sure I don’t.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:11am #419250

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
I’m the most hated on poster because I have my own opinion and I don’t follow a script…and what i say isn’t the popular opinion…I’ve called out every body and I’m not afraid to tell it how it is, not how you and others want it to be…
This guy…congrats, your the dude who’s goes the other way just to argue. That and 50 cents will get you some M&M’s from the corner store. Noone hates you but you are annoying.

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:11am #419255

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
I’m the most hated on poster because I have my own opinion and I don’t follow a script…and what i say isn’t the popular opinion…I’ve called out every body and I’m not afraid to tell it how it is, not how you and others want it to be…
This guy…congrats, your the dude who’s goes the other way just to argue. That and 50 cents will get you some M&M’s from the corner store. Noone hates you but you are annoying.

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:12am #419252

joecheck88
Participant
so who thinks miami would be better with garnett? duncan? stoudemire? dirk? rather than bosh. i dont care how bad boshs team was. david lee was on a bad team, put up similar numbers and is number 50 on this list.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:12am #419257

joecheck88
Participant
so who thinks miami would be better with garnett? duncan? stoudemire? dirk? rather than bosh. i dont care how bad boshs team was. david lee was on a bad team, put up similar numbers and is number 50 on this list.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:19am #419258

Grandmama
Participant
Rashard Lewis is not a top 50 player right now, Paul Pierce should be lower.

John Wall is better than Brandon Jennings, therefore either Jennings needs to go or Wall needs to be added. If you watched the Milwaukee/Washington pre-season game you know who’s better.

Blake Griffin is better than LaMarcus Aldridge so Aldridge too high. Also David Lee is so much better than Aldridge it’s scary….Lee obviously needs to be higher.

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:19am #419263

Grandmama
Participant
Rashard Lewis is not a top 50 player right now, Paul Pierce should be lower.

John Wall is better than Brandon Jennings, therefore either Jennings needs to go or Wall needs to be added. If you watched the Milwaukee/Washington pre-season game you know who’s better.

Blake Griffin is better than LaMarcus Aldridge so Aldridge too high. Also David Lee is so much better than Aldridge it’s scary….Lee obviously needs to be higher.

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:20am #419260

Grandmama
Participant
I agree with your top 10 although I may put KD 3rd and Wade 4th.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:20am #419265

Grandmama
Participant
I agree with your top 10 although I may put KD 3rd and Wade 4th.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:21am #419262

billyk
Participant
If I had to pick between the two (Bosh and Garnett) in a playoff series, gemmie Garnett… Stats dont mean nothing when it comes to the playoffs when players have to match up primarily aganist each other (thats how you really know was is the better player: HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS).. Bosh is younger than Garnett, so hes got more energy to put up bigger regular season numbers than Garnett…
"Bosh and Garnett are very similar in the ways thier careers are panning out. NOT NUMBERS WISE."
That statement is crazy, when Garnett was in his 8th season he was a BEAST and top 5 NBA player… Also, when Garnett was in his 8th season he had the ability to carry a team to the playoffs and he was on his way to the HOF…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:21am #419267

billyk
Participant
If I had to pick between the two (Bosh and Garnett) in a playoff series, gemmie Garnett… Stats dont mean nothing when it comes to the playoffs when players have to match up primarily aganist each other (thats how you really know was is the better player: HEAD TO HEAD MATCHUPS).. Bosh is younger than Garnett, so hes got more energy to put up bigger regular season numbers than Garnett…
"Bosh and Garnett are very similar in the ways thier careers are panning out. NOT NUMBERS WISE."
That statement is crazy, when Garnett was in his 8th season he was a BEAST and top 5 NBA player… Also, when Garnett was in his 8th season he had the ability to carry a team to the playoffs and he was on his way to the HOF…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:22am #419264

JNixon
Participant
"John Wall is better than Brandon Jennings, therefore either Jennings needs to go or Wall needs to be added. If you watched the Milwaukee/Washington pre-season game you know who’s better."
Horrible, horrible way to judge who’s better. Wall hasn’t played a season yet, and there are more than just Jennings he’ll have to outplay for me to chance my mind as of right now.
"Blake Griffin is better than LaMarcus Aldridge so Aldridge too high."
Basing this on the preseason again? Griffin hasn’t played a regular season game yet. Once again, horrible way to judge who’s better.

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:22am #419269

JNixon
Participant
"John Wall is better than Brandon Jennings, therefore either Jennings needs to go or Wall needs to be added. If you watched the Milwaukee/Washington pre-season game you know who’s better."
Horrible, horrible way to judge who’s better. Wall hasn’t played a season yet, and there are more than just Jennings he’ll have to outplay for me to chance my mind as of right now.
"Blake Griffin is better than LaMarcus Aldridge so Aldridge too high."
Basing this on the preseason again? Griffin hasn’t played a regular season game yet. Once again, horrible way to judge who’s better.

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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:24am #419268

Grandmama
Participant
Obvious things are a horrible way to judge right?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:24am #419273

Grandmama
Participant
Obvious things are a horrible way to judge right?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:24am #419270

JNixon
Participant
If I had to pick who I want in a playoff series between Joe Johnson and Ron Artest, I’d pick Ron Artest. Does that mean he’s a better player in the NBA? NO.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:24am #419275

JNixon
Participant
If I had to pick who I want in a playoff series between Joe Johnson and Ron Artest, I’d pick Ron Artest. Does that mean he’s a better player in the NBA? NO.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:25am #419276

Grandmama
Participant
If you can’t see why Wall’s better than Jennings regardless of how many games Wall has or hasn’t played you’re blind.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:25am #419281

Grandmama
Participant
If you can’t see why Wall’s better than Jennings regardless of how many games Wall has or hasn’t played you’re blind.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:25am #419278

JNixon
Participant
"Obvious things are a horrible way to judge right?"
Yeah if you are basing those obvious things on a guy who has no body of work compared to a guy who lead his team to the playoffs. And in the preseason too.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:25am #419283

JNixon
Participant
"Obvious things are a horrible way to judge right?"
Yeah if you are basing those obvious things on a guy who has no body of work compared to a guy who lead his team to the playoffs. And in the preseason too.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:27am #419280

Hale
Participant
Buckshots statement was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:27am #419285

Hale
Participant
Buckshots statement was one of the dumbest things I’ve ever seen.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:27am #419282

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
That statement is crazy, when Garnett was in his 8th season he was a BEAST and top 5 NBA player… Also, when Garnett was in his 8th season he had the ability to carry a team to the playoffs and he was on his way to the HOF…

Both Garnett and Bosh had issues winning. Before the 2002-2003 season, Garnett never won a playoff series. He was seen as "He’s a beast BUT cannot win" then Minnesota added two solid players in Cassell and Spree and Garnett had a MVP season. Chris Bosh was not the passer KG was but he has in his career so far, put the stats together and has not won. That’s what I meant.

Also, Garnett couldn’t win when the series was best of 5. Bosh couldn’t win in the best of 7 series AND Bosh had his best teammate before LeBron? T.J. Ford.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:27am #419287

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
That statement is crazy, when Garnett was in his 8th season he was a BEAST and top 5 NBA player… Also, when Garnett was in his 8th season he had the ability to carry a team to the playoffs and he was on his way to the HOF…

Both Garnett and Bosh had issues winning. Before the 2002-2003 season, Garnett never won a playoff series. He was seen as "He’s a beast BUT cannot win" then Minnesota added two solid players in Cassell and Spree and Garnett had a MVP season. Chris Bosh was not the passer KG was but he has in his career so far, put the stats together and has not won. That’s what I meant.

Also, Garnett couldn’t win when the series was best of 5. Bosh couldn’t win in the best of 7 series AND Bosh had his best teammate before LeBron? T.J. Ford.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:28am #419284

billyk
Participant
Actually yeah it does… Logic says you want the BETTER player on your team NOT the player who puts up "STATS.." IMO people get to caught up with who puts up better numbers, sports is about winning not about who is puts up better stats…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:28am #419289

billyk
Participant
Actually yeah it does… Logic says you want the BETTER player on your team NOT the player who puts up "STATS.." IMO people get to caught up with who puts up better numbers, sports is about winning not about who is puts up better stats…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:29am #419286

joecheck88
Participant
who would you take for 1 season only for your best chance to win a championship? i think the answer is still garnett. good enough in the regular season to make it to the playoffs then turns into a beast in the playoffs. bosh cant get his team in the playoffs and when he does they are embarassed.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:29am #419291

joecheck88
Participant
who would you take for 1 season only for your best chance to win a championship? i think the answer is still garnett. good enough in the regular season to make it to the playoffs then turns into a beast in the playoffs. bosh cant get his team in the playoffs and when he does they are embarassed.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:31am #419290

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
For one season as a #1- Bosh
For one season as a #2 or #3- Garnett
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:31am #419295

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
For one season as a #1- Bosh
For one season as a #2 or #3- Garnett
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:34am #419296

Grandmama
Participant
Sam Gallenberger the Mental Midget…literally standing 5’8"
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:34am #419301

Grandmama
Participant
Sam Gallenberger the Mental Midget…literally standing 5’8"
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:34am #419298

JNixon
Participant
"IMO people get to caught up with who puts up better numbers, sports is about winning not about who is puts up better stats…"
How can you win if you have worse stats though? Think about it.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:34am #419303

JNixon
Participant
"IMO people get to caught up with who puts up better numbers, sports is about winning not about who is puts up better stats…"
How can you win if you have worse stats though? Think about it.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:35am #419300

billyk
Participant
No ,Bosh had a problem winning and Tronto was barely a .500 team… Garnett year in year out lead his team to the playoffs…. Plus, in Minnesota Garnett put together a HOF career, was a top 5 player, and Garnett in his prime would DESTROY Bosh…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:35am #419305

billyk
Participant
No ,Bosh had a problem winning and Tronto was barely a .500 team… Garnett year in year out lead his team to the playoffs…. Plus, in Minnesota Garnett put together a HOF career, was a top 5 player, and Garnett in his prime would DESTROY Bosh…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:36am #419304

joecheck88
Participant
but nobody answered the main question. last year bosh and david lee put up similar numbers on bad teams, so how is bosh number 11 on the list and david lee 50?
and what does bosh as a number 1 get you? a number 7 seed and a first round exit. kevin garnett is more similar in regards to not winning as lebron, not bosh. kg was arguably the best player in the league(like lebron) but couldnt win. bosh has never been on kgs level as a player and only now when kg is in serious decline is it even close. kg for one season gives you a better chance at a ring than bosh.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:36am #419309

joecheck88
Participant
but nobody answered the main question. last year bosh and david lee put up similar numbers on bad teams, so how is bosh number 11 on the list and david lee 50?
and what does bosh as a number 1 get you? a number 7 seed and a first round exit. kevin garnett is more similar in regards to not winning as lebron, not bosh. kg was arguably the best player in the league(like lebron) but couldnt win. bosh has never been on kgs level as a player and only now when kg is in serious decline is it even close. kg for one season gives you a better chance at a ring than bosh.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:38am #419306

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
Noone said a prime KG would lose to Bosh….what’s your point?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:38am #419311

Mr.Knick 32
Participant
Noone said a prime KG would lose to Bosh….what’s your point?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:38am #419308

billyk
Participant
"How can you win if you have worse stats though? Think about it."
Winning is about stats (Players that usually win sacrifice stats for wins)…. Think about it.. Im not following you logic, Iggy why would you take Artest if Joe Johnson is the BETTER player???
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:38am #419313

billyk
Participant
"How can you win if you have worse stats though? Think about it."
Winning is about stats (Players that usually win sacrifice stats for wins)…. Think about it.. Im not following you logic, Iggy why would you take Artest if Joe Johnson is the BETTER player???
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:39am #419310

JNixon
Participant
Watch basketball games and tell me Chris Bosh isn’t better than David Lee. Bosh’s Toronto team was better than the Knicks, and they were largely better because of Bosh. David Lee put up inflated stats for a terrible team. Bosh put up big numbers on a team that JUST barely missed the playoffs. And you have to remember, Bosh has been a 1st option on a playoff team. David Lee? Never even been apart of a playoff team.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:39am #419315

JNixon
Participant
Watch basketball games and tell me Chris Bosh isn’t better than David Lee. Bosh’s Toronto team was better than the Knicks, and they were largely better because of Bosh. David Lee put up inflated stats for a terrible team. Bosh put up big numbers on a team that JUST barely missed the playoffs. And you have to remember, Bosh has been a 1st option on a playoff team. David Lee? Never even been apart of a playoff team.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:40am #419312

Hale
Participant
5’9 big boy. Let me guess, you’re 6’5 240 lbs of muscle and black? At least I’m not embarrassed of myself to the point where I need to hide my identity. Keep talking. Please.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:40am #419317

Hale
Participant
5’9 big boy. Let me guess, you’re 6’5 240 lbs of muscle and black? At least I’m not embarrassed of myself to the point where I need to hide my identity. Keep talking. Please.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:43am #419316

JNixon
Participant
Because Artest can defend better, and he has the ability to take the best perimeter players out of their games. Johnson is better in the regular season and sometimes in the playoffs, but Artest’s defense is more valuable in a playoff setting than a guy who has had trouble coming through when it matters most.
Johnson is obviously a better player than Artest though, even though he struggles to come through in the playoffs. Just because you’d take a guy in the playoffs doesn’t mean he’s better. I’d take Kendrick Perkins over Al Horford in a playoff setting too, but Horford is a better overall player than Perkins is.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:43am #419320

JNixon
Participant
Because Artest can defend better, and he has the ability to take the best perimeter players out of their games. Johnson is better in the regular season and sometimes in the playoffs, but Artest’s defense is more valuable in a playoff setting than a guy who has had trouble coming through when it matters most.
Johnson is obviously a better player than Artest though, even though he struggles to come through in the playoffs. Just because you’d take a guy in the playoffs doesn’t mean he’s better. I’d take Kendrick Perkins over Al Horford in a playoff setting too, but Horford is a better overall player than Perkins is.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:43am #419318

butidonthavemoney
When it comes down to Garnett vs. Bosh, I believe that Garnett is the better player.
"The only thing Garnett does better as of now [is] play D"
Defense is half of basketball. He’s also a better leader and a better passer.
Give me the proven leader over the Batgirl anyday.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:43am #419322

butidonthavemoney
When it comes down to Garnett vs. Bosh, I believe that Garnett is the better player.
"The only thing Garnett does better as of now [is] play D"
Defense is half of basketball. He’s also a better leader and a better passer.
Give me the proven leader over the Batgirl anyday.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:52am #419331

billyk
Participant
@ Yup Yup what does it matter if hes a 6’5 240lb black guy???
@ Iggy, IMO the better basketball player is the player that gives you the best chance in winning… Joe Johnson may have a higher skill level than Artest but, that doesnt make him a better player.. People get to caught up in STATS and often times those are the players than play for teams that dont win… Like you wrote earlier its all about opinion and im just stating by opinion lol…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:52am #419334

billyk
Participant
@ Yup Yup what does it matter if hes a 6’5 240lb black guy???
@ Iggy, IMO the better basketball player is the player that gives you the best chance in winning… Joe Johnson may have a higher skill level than Artest but, that doesnt make him a better player.. People get to caught up in STATS and often times those are the players than play for teams that dont win… Like you wrote earlier its all about opinion and im just stating by opinion lol…
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:52am #419333

joecheck88
Participant
im not saying bosh isnt better than lee because clearly he is. my point was why is the gap between them so large? i dont have the numbers but how many more games did the raps win over the knicks? i dont think it was that many and when stats are brought into the argument, why cant you use them to argue against someone? bosh is very good player but has always come up short.
or you use stats like this, bosh had 24 and 12 last year on a 40 win team. so he is better than garnett who had 17 and 8. well with that logic david lee is better than garnett too.
im not trying to hate, but numbers dont always tell the truth. and every situation is different. kg struggled in the playoffs before the celtics, lebron has struggled in the playoffs. but i think those 2 are a closer comparison than garnett and bosh. bosh is better than lee, numbers wise and talent wise. but dont just use numbers for your argument because they can be used against you too.
basketball isnt logic. you cant just use stats as a barometer. just in my opinion i would rather have garnett over bosh. bosh has better numbers but garnett has better intangibles that dont show up in the numbers.
anyone get what im tryin to say? lol.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:52am #419336

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im not saying bosh isnt better than lee because clearly he is. my point was why is the gap between them so large? i dont have the numbers but how many more games did the raps win over the knicks? i dont think it was that many and when stats are brought into the argument, why cant you use them to argue against someone? bosh is very good player but has always come up short.
or you use stats like this, bosh had 24 and 12 last year on a 40 win team. so he is better than garnett who had 17 and 8. well with that logic david lee is better than garnett too.
im not trying to hate, but numbers dont always tell the truth. and every situation is different. kg struggled in the playoffs before the celtics, lebron has struggled in the playoffs. but i think those 2 are a closer comparison than garnett and bosh. bosh is better than lee, numbers wise and talent wise. but dont just use numbers for your argument because they can be used against you too.
basketball isnt logic. you cant just use stats as a barometer. just in my opinion i would rather have garnett over bosh. bosh has better numbers but garnett has better intangibles that dont show up in the numbers.
anyone get what im tryin to say? lol.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:53am #419337

Hale
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Making fun of my size, so I was assuming if I asked him his szie, that would be his reply. But the tough guy hasn’t posted back.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 10:53am #419340

Hale
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Making fun of my size, so I was assuming if I asked him his szie, that would be his reply. But the tough guy hasn’t posted back.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:39am #419360

JNixon
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So basically Ron Artest is better than Joe Johnson to you?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:39am #419365

JNixon
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So basically Ron Artest is better than Joe Johnson to you?
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:47am #419366

Snubs15
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Garnett has lost his explosiveness and is injury prone. Put him in bosh’s situation in Toronto last year and he wouldnt have made as big of an impact in my opinion. Still wouldnt of made the playoffs.
And David Lee is great offensively, but his defense is well below average which is half of the game, thats probly another reason why hes only ranked at 50.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 11:47am #419370

Snubs15
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Garnett has lost his explosiveness and is injury prone. Put him in bosh’s situation in Toronto last year and he wouldnt have made as big of an impact in my opinion. Still wouldnt of made the playoffs.
And David Lee is great offensively, but his defense is well below average which is half of the game, thats probly another reason why hes only ranked at 50.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:03pm #419373

Im Your Father
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For me the Johnson Artest thing depends on the situation. I doubt JJ can lead a team to a championship, but he has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs as the first option. At this point in his career Artest can’t do that .
If I need a guy to be my main scorer and best player, I’m taking Johnson. If I need a guy who will be a complimentary scorer and an good defender I’m taking Artest.
I would say Johnson is the better overall player because he can lead a team to the playoffs.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 12:03pm #419376

Im Your Father
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For me the Johnson Artest thing depends on the situation. I doubt JJ can lead a team to a championship, but he has proven he can lead a team to the playoffs as the first option. At this point in his career Artest can’t do that .
If I need a guy to be my main scorer and best player, I’m taking Johnson. If I need a guy who will be a complimentary scorer and an good defender I’m taking Artest.
I would say Johnson is the better overall player because he can lead a team to the playoffs.
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 3:52pm #419805

midwestbbscout
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Yao can’t be that high….I don’t think he’s ever been number 8 even when he was in pristine shape and no injuries….
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Posted on: Tue, 10/26/2010 - 3:52pm #419808

midwestbbscout
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Yao can’t be that high….I don’t think he’s ever been number 8 even when he was in pristine shape and no injuries….
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