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  • #19940
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    JNixon
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    Ehhh, it’s my opinion. Opinions and criticism are welcome lol

    Top 50:

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. Lebron James
    3. Dwyane Wade
    4. Kevin Durant
    5. Chris Paul
    6. Dwight Howard
    7. Carmelo Anthony
    8. Yao Ming
    9. Pau Gasol
    10. Deron Williams
    11. Dirk Nowitzki
    12. Chris Bosh
    13. Steve Nash
    14. Brandon Roy
    15. Amare Stoudemire
    16. Derrick Rose
    17. Tim Duncan
    18. Paul Pierce
    19. Joe Johnson
    20. Rajon Rondo
    21. Tony Parker
    22. Danny Granger
    23. Andrew Bogut
    24. Al Jefferson
    25. Kevin Garnett
    26. Manu Ginobili
    27. Tyreke Evans
    28. Andre Iguodala
    29. Chauncey Billups
    30. Josh Smith
    31. Rudy Gay
    32. Gilbert Arenas
    33. Carlos Boozer
    34. Brandon Jennings
    35. Stephen Curry
    36. Brook Lopez
    37. Caron Butler
    38. Zach Randolph
    39. Stephen Jackson
    40. Kevin Love
    41. Vince Carter
    42. David West
    43. Monta Ellis
    44. Gerald Wallace
    45. Jason Kidd
    46. LaMarcus Aldridge
    47. Marc Gasol
    48. Rashard Lewis
    49. Al Horford
    50. O.J. Mayo

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  • #364229
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I hate you. I’m sitting here right now up to player 29. I was planning to do my own lol.

    My personal opinion- Tony Parker is kind of high.

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  • #364231
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    R-Dot-13
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    Russell Westbrook?

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  • #364234
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    Michael.S.
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    LeBron over Kobe
    Dwight over CP
    Gay over Igoudala
    Kaman should be up there.

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  • #364237
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    idunnonymore
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    Brook lopez 36 i think he should be lower

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  • #364238
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    OhCanada-
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    There is no reason Vince Carter should be on your list. Jason Kidd is way too low.

    Also I find it interesting that no L.A. Clippers players are on this list and the list is fairly accurate, people seem to be overrating the Clips this year. They are still the same old unharnessed talent L.A. Clippers.

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  • #364235
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    the fan
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    Kevin Garnett, Jason Kidd, Kevin Love are all much much too high I think. the rest of it looks good to me. Good job.

    EDIT: Yao at 8 is a little high for a guy who hasn’t played in a year and most likely won’t ever be the same again.

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  • #364239
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    Dubs30
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    Al Jefferson and Stephen Jackson should be rated lower. Why is Al Horford number 49? I’m not being biased, but no way Jennings is above Curry. And where is David Lee?

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  • #364241
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    StF616
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    Isnt Yao Ming a Bit High For Somebody That Didnt play Last Season?
    Put Russell Westbrook In
    I Dont Like Amar’e At 15 i still think Duncan is better than him
    I Dont Think Curry is Better Than Ellis Yet
    I Dont Like Rashard Lewis There
    Kevin Martin Averaged 20.6ppg and aaron brooks 19.6ppg and 5.3apg
    Not Trying To Overrate Rockets Players But I think the two of them are better than some players there
    I Think Gay is Better than Josh Smith
    But Then Again These are just my opninions ^_^

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  • #364243
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    sacphil_08
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    I gave a point just because there had to have been a great deal of thought put into something like that. The top 20-25 had to have been brain rattling

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  • #364244
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    JNixon
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    I definitely should’ve included Russell Westbrook. I slipped on that one.

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  • #364249
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    My opinion

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. Lebron James
    3. Kevin Durant
    4. Dwyane Wade
    5. Chris Paul
    6. Carmelo Anthony
    7. Dwight Howard
    8. Deron Williams
    9. Dirk Nowitzki
    10. Chris Bosh
    11. Steve Nash
    12. Pau Gasol
    13. Brandon Roy
    14. Yao Ming
    15. Amare Stoudemire
    16. Derrick Rose
    17. Tim Duncan
    18. Paul Pierce
    19. Joe Johnson
    20. Rajon Rondo
    21. David Lee
    22. Danny Granger
    23. Kevin Garnett
    24. Andrew Bogut
    25. Al Jefferson
    26. Manu Ginobili
    27. Tyreke Evans
    28. Andre Iguodala
    29. Chauncey Billups
    30. Josh Smith
    31. Tony Parker
    32. Rudy Gay
    33. Gilbert Arenas
    34. Carlos Boozer
    35. Gerald Wallace
    36. Zach Randolph
    37. Brook Lopez
    38. Al Horford
    39. Russell Westbrook
    40. Ray Allen
    41. Monta Ellis
    42. Jameer Nelson
    43. Brandon Jennings
    44. Stephen Jackson
    45. Chris Kaman
    46. Stephen Curry
    47. Jason Kidd
    48. Rashard Lewis
    49. Joakim Noah
    50. David West

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  • #364261
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    Da1pot
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    Players that should be on here
    1. Russell Westbrook-
    2.Chris Kaman- averages better stats than Brook Lopez, top 3 center based on stats
    3. David Lee- 20.2 and 11.7, 54 double doubles
    4. Ray Allen- Still a great player in my opinion, may be old, but still produces and is the best shooter in the game. Continues to be underrated.
    5. Aaron Brooks- I can understand all the hype behind Jennings, But Brooks has better stats and will likely average more assists with the return of Yao

    I think that Bogut is way too high, considering Kaman is not even on the list and that Rashard Lewis should not be on there at all.

    But overall, great list Iggy, people need to realize how difficult it is to make one of these!

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  • #364268
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    JNixon
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    Thanks dapot1, and HELL yeah…..Super hard to make on of these. I thought and hard about everything, and STILL Westbrook slipped my mind lol

    Knickboy, you should post 1. I’d encourage anyone who wants to do one to make one. It’s no joke

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  • #364277
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    BasterdInABasket
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    Gerald Wallace should be higher maybe early 30s
    and since your doing this for players at full health Bynum has to be on this list because hes better than horford and gasol for sure

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  • #364283
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    Tyreke Johnson
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    It is hard to say the top 3 or 4 are pretty much locked with Durant, Wade, Lebron and Kobe but after that it is just a matter of preference or opinion, everybody’s top 50 will be different some way or another I guarantee it,

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  • #364294
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    R-Dot-13
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    My attempt..

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. Lebron James
    3. Kevin Durant
    4. Dwayne Wade
    5. Chris Paul
    6. Dwight Howard
    7. Carmelo Anthony
    8. Deron Williams
    9. Dirk Nowitzki
    10. Pau Gasol
    11. Steve Nash
    12. Yao Ming
    13. Brandon Roy
    14. Chris Bosh
    15. Derrick Rose
    16. Amare Stoudamire
    17. Rajon Rondo
    18. Tim Duncan
    19. Joe Johnson
    20. Danny Granger
    21. Paul Pierce
    22. Manu Ginobili
    23. Andre Iguodala
    24. Al Jefferson
    25. Kevin Garnett
    26. Tony Parker
    27. Tyreke Evans
    28. Andrew Bogut
    29. Chauncey Billups
    30. Rudy Gay
    31. Josh Smith
    32. Russell Westbrook
    33. Monta Ellis
    34. Stephen Curry
    35. Brandon Jennings
    36. Brook Lopez
    37. Carlos Boozer
    38. Gerald Wallace
    39. Stephen Jackson
    40. Gilbert Arenas
    41. OJ Mayo
    42. David West
    43. Caron Butler
    44. Zach Randolph
    45. Chris Kaman
    46. LaMarcus Aldridge
    47. David Lee
    48. Jameer Nelson
    49. Al Horford
    50. Aaron Brooks

    This wasnt exactly easy.. lol

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  • #364316
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    the I in win
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    I think Manu is over Pierce and Westbrook is over Tyreke.

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  • #364319
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    nateoak10
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    Ellis and Curry should be low 40’s to mid 30’s and Lee should be there. Jennings isnt that good yet either and Gay isnt that good ether

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  • #364320
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    Cameron
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    I think Duncan should be a bit higher, and I think you overrated Yao and Bogut a bit. Otherwise, solid list

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  • #364324
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    JNixon
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    “Ellis and Curry should be low 40’s to mid 30’s and Lee should be there”

    Lol, look where I have them

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  • #364384
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    Demarcus Oneal
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    I think Derrick Rose is a bit high but a good list

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  • #364387
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    Grandmama
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    Even though John Wall hasn’t played a game, some of the PG’s you guys are putting ahead of him are not as good. Wall is better than Aaron Brooks, Jameer Nelson, and Brandon Jennings. A lot of people sell Wall short on this site and I’m not sure why. I would assume it’s b/c he turns the ball over too much and isn’t the greatest long rang shooter. Those are probably two of the easier aspects of a players game that can improve upon entering the NBA. I don’t see any problems with Wall averaging 18ppg 7-8apg 4rpg 2stl’s in his rookie year, along with all of his intangibles he is in the top 50. His ability to get into the lane at will and draw fouls could actually allow him to average up to 20 his rookie year. This kid is going to be a superstar and has to be mentioned in the top 50 already even without playing a game. Stop selling him short.

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  • #364389
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    Grandmama
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    Rashard Lewis is a one dimensional player now and shouldn’t be in the top 50, didn’t you see his performance in the playoffs? At this point in his career he is only a spot up shooter who is a defensive liability.

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  • #364390
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    R-Dot-13
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    Umm sorry what?

    “This kid is going to be a superstar and has to be mentioned in the top 50 already even without playing a game. Stop selling him short”

    Are you kidding me?

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  • #364393
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    JNixon
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    I’ll just be patient. I’m not going to put a rookie in my current NBA players list before the season starts. I also didn’t include Jameer Nelson or Aaron Brooks in my list, so maybe that was directed at someone else.

    Also, I have a hard time believing Wall will be better than Brandon Jennings next season. Wall’s rookie numbers will probably look about the same as Jennings’ rookie numbers, with less accuracy from 3-point land, more turnovers, and better FG%. I think Jennings will make a leap to elite level status next season though, so I don’t think Wall is better right now or at least for the next 2 years.

    Rashard Lewis struggled in the Celtic series, but I personally believe he’s at least a top 50 player in the NBA. The guy could be around 20 ppg and 7 rpg player if he played on certain teams I’d say. And that team would be a playoff team too. He’s a capable 2nd option, on a contending team

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  • #364407
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    Rafter
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    It isn’t easy to compile a list of the best 50 players in the NBA. It’s easy for people to say “This guy is too high” etc etc but it takes time to research the information and then to put one guy over the other takes even more time. I don’t think anyone would have a list everyone would agree with, but it’s interesting to see people’s opinion on these kind of topics.

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  • #364428
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    DraftDanteCunningham
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    Yao isn’t top 20……

    Rondo should be a little higher…..

    Wade ahead of LeBron

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  • #364430
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    JNixon
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    Really? Wade over Lebron? Strange one……but you might be on to something

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  • #364431
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    Im Your Father
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    I know it’s popular to hate on him right now, but Wade should definitely not be ahead of Lebron.

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  • #364433
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    No Way should Wade be over LeBron.

    I would argue Kobe over LeBron as well.

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  • #364438
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    White Chocolate
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    Here is mine:

    1. Kobe Bryant
    2. LeBron James
    3. Kevin Durant
    4. Dwight Howard
    5. Dwayne Wade
    6. Carmelo Anthony
    7. Deron Williams
    8. Chris Paul
    9. Pau Gasol
    10. Dirk Nowitzki
    11. Tim Duncan
    12. Chris Bosh
    13. Yao Ming
    14. Steve Nash
    15. Amare Stoudemire
    16. Derrick Rose
    17. Brandon Roy
    18. Paul Pierce
    19. Rajon Rondo
    20. Al Jefferson
    21. Joe Johnson
    22. Danny Granger
    23. Andrew Bogut
    24. Tony Parker
    25. Kevin Garnett
    26. Manu Ginobili
    27. Chauncey Billups
    28. Andre Iguodala
    29. Tyreke Evans
    30. Rudy Gay
    31. Josh Smith
    32. Gilbert Arenas
    33. Carlos Boozer
    34. Al Horford
    35. Brook Lopez
    36. Marc Gasol
    37. Caron Butler
    38. Zach Randolph
    39. Stephen Jackson
    40. Monta Ellis
    41. Gerald Wallace
    42. O.J. Mayo
    43. Stephen Curry
    44. Brandon Jennings
    45. Jason Kidd
    46. LaMarcus Aldridge
    47. Kevin Love
    48. Russell Westbrook
    49. David West
    50. Rashard Lewis

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  • #364440
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    JNixon
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    LMAO I knew a Jazz fan would put Deron Williams over Chris Paul…Absolutely KNEW it was coming

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  • #364442
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    I saw that and decided….Is it worth the bring up?

    We all know Paul is better when Healthy.

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  • #364444
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    llperez

    i think paul is better. But its close enough i dont think it warrants ridicule for someone to put dwill ahead, especailly with paul coming off an injury.

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  • #364449
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    How about mines?

    NBA Top 50 rankings

    1. LeBron James
    2. Kobe Bryant
    3. Dwyane Wade
    4. Kevin Durant
    5. Chris Paul
    6. Dwight Howard
    7. Carmelo Anthony
    8. Deron Williams
    9. Pau Gasol
    10. Dirk Nowitzki

    11. Chris Bosh
    12. Steve Nash
    13. Brandon Roy
    14. Amare Stoudemire
    15. Yao Ming
    16. Tim Duncan
    17. Derrick Rose
    18. Rajon Rondo
    19. Al Jefferson
    20. Paul Pierce

    21. Andrew Bogut
    22. Danny Granger
    23. Joe Johnson
    24. Kevin Garnett
    25. Chancey Billups
    26. Tony Parker
    27. Tyreke Evans
    28. Andre Iguodala
    29. Manu Ginobili
    30. Josh Smith

    31. Rudy Gay
    32. Carlos Boozer
    33. Kevin Love
    34. Gilbert Arenas
    35. Andrew Bynum
    36. Monta Ellis
    37. Brandon Jennings
    38. Stephen Curry
    39. Gerald Wallace
    40. Zach Randolph

    41. Stephen Jackson
    42. LaMarcus Aldridge
    43. O.J. Mayo
    44. Russell Westbrook
    45. Brook Lopez
    46. Al Horford
    47. Vince Carter
    48. Marc Gasol
    49. Jason Kidd
    50. David Lee

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  • #364456
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    JNixon
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    I think it’s solid. I’d put Westbrook over Stephen Curry though I’d say

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  • #364471
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    IndianaBasketball
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    @JNixon-Iggy9

    What made you decide to rank Kobe above LeBron? For the longest, you’ve said LeBron was better.

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  • #364478
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    JNixon
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    Something called…..the playoffs my friend. I have come to the realization that Lebron is better in the regular season, but Kobe has the killer instinct when it matters. For now (I think Kobe will decline in 2 years or so) Kobe Bryant is better than Lebron IMO, since Kobe will rise and be a champion.

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  • #364480
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    SpencerIsHawesome2
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    I would put Durant ahead of Wade,

    KG, CP3(I think Kobe-LeBron-Wade-Durant-Carmelo round out the top-5) are too high.

    I also still think I’d put Duncan ahead of every PF except Gasol.

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  • #364491
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Durant ahead of Wade?

    Not yet…

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  • #364493
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    TRC1991
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    jnixoniggy9

    how would lebron do in the playoffs if he had gasol, odom, fisher, artest, bynum and phil jackson?

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  • #364496
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    JNixon
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    Yeah I’m not willing to put Durant over Wade right now to be honest

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  • #364501
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    JNixon
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    Who really knows, but he hasn’t gotten it done so I’m not willing to put him over Kobe right now

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  • #364523
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    Bryant24
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    i agree with the list but deron williams to low and vince carter is way to high

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  • #364527
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    Bryant24
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    iggy u finally realizing kobe is better than lebron and wade

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  • #364532
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I think Durant is a little too high.

    Based on quarters 1-3, he’s the 4th best player in the league… However, he’s not nearly as good in the 4th quarter.

    I’d put Paul, Howard, Williams and Dirk above him until I see his improvement next season. And has he really passed up Melo as a player? I’m not sure…

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  • #364535
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    JNixon
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    I think so…He’s 21 and lead the NBA in scoring. And he’s good for 7 rpg too. Durant deserves top 5 mention, and I think he has become the 4th best player in the NBA. He’s only going to get better too. I think he will lead the NBA in scoring next season too. He’s better than any SF not named Lebron James right now.

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  • #364543
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    kobyz
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    My List:

    1.Kobe Bryant
    2.LeBron James
    3.Dwyane Wade
    4.Chris Paul
    5.Kevin Durant
    6.Dwight Howard
    7.Deron Williams
    8.Carmelo Anthony
    9.Pau Gasol
    10.Brandon Roy
    11.Dirk Nowitzki
    12.Steve Nash
    13.Tim Duncan
    14.Amare Stoudemire
    15.Joe Johnson
    16.Derrick Rose
    17.Rajon Rondo
    18.Manu Ginobili
    19.Paul Pierce
    20.Yao Ming
    21.Tony Parker
    22.Kevin Garnett
    23.Danny Granger
    24.Andrew Bynum
    25.Carlos Boozer
    26.Andrew Bogut
    27.Rudy Gay
    28.John Wall
    29.Russell Westbrook
    30.Evan Turner
    31.Al Jefferson
    32.Andre Iguodala
    33.O.J. Mayo
    34.Gerald Wallace
    35.Josh Smith
    36.LaMarcus Aldridge
    37.David West
    38.Brook Lopez
    39.Joakim Noah
    40.Al Horford
    41.Brandon Jennings
    42.Gilbert Arenas
    43.Blake Griffin
    44.David Lee
    45.Rashard Lewis
    46.Marc Gasol
    47.Chris Kaman
    48.Stephen Curry
    49.Zach Randolph
    50.Chris Kaman

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  • #364549
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Those things are true about Durant, but you can’t ignore how much he drops off in the 4th quarter. Look at the numbers… They don’t lie.

    He drops in almost every category… Points, FG%, 3-PT%, etc. He’s not the same player in the 4th quarter, but he’ll get better. That’s why I said I have to wait and see how improves there this upcoming season.

    I also think he’s someone who can still be taken out of his game with physical play (see Ron Artest in first round). He still needs work on creating for his teammates (at least being respectable there) and on the defensive end.

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  • #364562
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    Mr. Basketball
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    Did Eric Gordon fall off the face of the earth??? I mean people O.J. Mayo at 33 and Gordon is not even in the top 50? are you kidding me? And Brandon Jennings is ridiculously overrated. After his great start he cooled down tremendously and shot a terrible percentage. How is he better than Gordon? And Kaman getting no mention on the first list on here? are you kidding me? Its not like he was just an all-star last year…

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  • #364575
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    JNixon
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    I personally believe if O.J. Mayo was on the Clippers, he’d average 20 ppg. Kobyz has him 33, which is a reach, but I do believe O.J. Mayo is a better player than Eric Gordon though

    Brandon Jennings is going to be better than Gordon next year too.

    Chris Kaman isn’t all that great to me. I probably would replace him with l Horford if I could (at #49), but Kaman isn’t an elite big man. He’s above average, but nothing to get terribly worked up about. I wouldn’t be upset if Kaman was left out of anyone’s top 50.

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  • #364576
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    llperez

    i would take kaman over rashard lewis in a heart beat.

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  • #364578
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    Bryant24
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    I advise yall not to sleep on jennings dude is a beast and he has a very good work ethic

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  • #364579
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m not high on Kaman either, but he’s definitely a top 50 player.

    And I highly doubt Mayo would average 20 on the Clippers. He’d be in the same exact situation as Gordon… Stuck behind two veteran players in the pecking order… A ball dominant point guard in Davis and a center, who slowly became a blackhole last season, in Kaman.

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  • #364581
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Jennings is a good young player, but to say he’s the 34th best player in the entire NBA right now is crazy… The same goes for Stephen Curry.

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  • #364590
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    JNixon
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    Mayo plays with Rudy Gay and Zach Randolph, 2 players that average more ppg over Davis and Kaman repsectively, and are ball-dominant as well, and still was better across the board than Eric Gordon. Chris Kaman and Baron Davis aren’t as ball-dominant as those 2 by any stretch. I think Mayo could average right at 20 ppg in that offense.

    And look for Jennings and Curry to make leaps. I think they will be the #’s they are right now by the end of the season. This isn’t based directly on their performance last season. Where they are right now is how I think they will be heading into next season until the end of the season. If you think conservatively, don’t make a list like this. That’s all I can say.

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  • #364718
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    Mr. Basketball
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    well when mayo and gordon play against each other, why does gordon always out play him? both on offense and defense…

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  • #364721
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    JNixon
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    Tell you the same way I told butidonthavemoney…..You can’t base whether a player is better than another player off of a single individual matchup. There are 28 starting other SG’s in the NBA besides these 2, and Mayo was slightly better at everything cumulatively last season. So, I think Mayo is better.

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  • #364728
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    Why
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    Man Yao Ming at 8 is a travesty. I totally agree with that 2 years ago, but he even said himself he won’t be the same this year or anytime real soon. So as far as top players right now. I think maybe, MAYBE he should crack 50. Think about it.

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  • #364736
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    DraftDanteCunningham
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    What does LeBron do better than Wade?

    passing?

    Wade’s shot is better, not even close. maybe one day Lebron will learn how to shoot…probably not…hasn’t developed in 7 years very much.
    Wade has a better handle/crossover….LeCrab is too busy takin 5 steps every play and crab dribbling all over the place.
    Wade has a killer instict, LeBron doesn’t and is a quiter.
    Wade is clutch, LeBron isn’t obviously…
    Wade has better one on one defense….LeBron’s defensive is horribly overrated because of his chase down blocks….he’s ok 1 on 1.

    I just think the media puts it in your heads to think he’s better and up there with Kobe. and now guess what….Lebron is going to be Wade’s sidekick. Real basketball heads take Wade EVERYTIME! He will play on WADE’s team. Who takes that game winning shot? Wade….Eric Spoelstra will get the shot before LeBrick.

    Lebron will never have the ability to do something like Wade did vs Dallas.

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