Jazz going forward
As we all know the nba trade deadline was disappointing, to a Jazz fan especially. But I am happy to have young pieces like favors, kanter, hayward and burks. Going forward the Jazz will hopefully make the playoffs and lose in the second round due to our trashy coach Corbin. Then we move on to the draft, where the real magic will happen, hopefully we are ale to snag Trey Burke, a quality wing and a big in the second round (to make up for big Al and Millsap leaving).
I wouldn't be surprised to see an S&T deal with Millsap for Bledsoe. I'd imagine they'll command similar salaries, making the deal easier to do straight-up.
lisergx, I don't necessarily agree with you about coach Corbin, I don't know how good he will end up being but he is doing a pretty good job with this team. A lot of people like to cry that he should play the young kids with potential but the way the Jazz organization believes and deals with players is you play the best player and whoever is on the floor is there because he earns it. Right now Jefferson and Milsap are better than Favors and Kanter, I love both Favors and Kanter and think their future is bright and that they will be very good players, all stars level but how the Jazz and Corbin are handling them will in the end make them better players. Corbin took over a tough situation with Sloan just up and quiting and DWill being traded shortly there after but he is doing a pretty good job. What are your complaints about how he is coaching?
Are Al and Sap better than Favors and Kanter right now? Offensively yes, defensively, its not even close, but I at least can understand starting those two over the young guns. But starting Tinsley and Marv over Burks and Hayward? Hell no. Defenders slack off Tins because he's not a threat to score. Burks might not be nearly as good a playmaker as Tins, but when your offense is pretty much dump it into the post to Al, anybody can do that, plus he actually can defend starting PG's (he's been finishing most games recently for that reason), and he is a threat to score. With Marv, I really hoped he would turn it around here in Utah, and maybe once we return to a true flex motion offense Marv will benefit, but right now G Time is a better defender, better playmaker, and better defender.
Plus Ty always does his crazy hockey subs and seems unwilling to adjust to how the game is going. Favors or Kanter on fire getting anything they want, even against opposing teams starters? Better pull them so Al and Sap can get their 30 minutes. Tins getting torched on defense? Hell, lets just sub in Watson, never mind that he hasn't been the same since he came back from injury, never mind the athletic combo guard you spent a lotto pick on chilling on the bench picking up DNP's like they were candy the first half of the season. I recognize that the FO really put Ty in a tough spot, but his best moments as a coach have been when injuries forced his hand, and I don't think that bodes well for the future. I'll give him through next season before I start calling for his head, but he's left me less than impressed thus far.
My 2 cents.
I really don't understand why people are so sold on the Clippers getting Millsap. He's going to be coming off the bench and so would Bledsoe. So would you rather have the best backup PG in the league or best back PF in the league.
You would rather have Millsap because he can play a few positions and there are many more minutes for him than Bledsoe. Bledsoe is behind Chris Paul, any crucial games in the playoffs Chris Paul will be playing 40 minutes making Bledsoe less valuable to them than Millsap
The Jazz can be major players in the free agency this summer.Most of their starters have expiring contracts(Big Al,Milsap,Mo Williams,Foye) but the thing is that they have an amazing young core(Hayward,Favors,Kanter).Either Big Al or Milsap(probably Al but it all depends on the money he s going to ask cause i don't think the Jazz will give him 15 million or more than that) will be retained but what i want to see them do is make a play for a pg/sg.Now i don't think that coach Corbin has done a bad job with the players he has and Mo's injury and all that but i do expect them to fight for the playoff home court advantage.They should be able to surpass the Warriors(only one game behind) and to me the Grizzlies could end up going 5th cause i like Denver and Utah more(especially after the Gay trade).We ll just have to see
yo chilbert, the difference between bledsoe and Millsap for the Clippers is obvious, one is going to finish games, and the other wont.. They need a big who can finish games (hitting freethrow).
Good call halfdecayed, never really thought bout that, so you end games with blake and millsap in front court? That would work.
"Jazz going Forward"....I'm pretty sure all they have on that team is Forwards.
we need one
The Jazz are 19-11 with Uncle Jamaal and Old Man Earl running the point and you people are griping about Corbin. C'mon, dudes.
It'll never happen, but the Jazz have the cap room to land a superstar in that 2014 FA class and it doesn't hurt that they're going to have some great talent when Hayward, Favors and Kanter start hitting their stride with more minutes next season. Everyone's going to say that the Jazz are "happy with being mediocre," but standing pat at the deadline was a pretty good thing for the franchise going forward especially if the best player they could secure was Eric Bledsoe.
Would you guys stop whining. You do realize that Clippers said on Wednesday that they were happy not making any moves. hint hint, No Bledsoe for Millsap trade was going to happen. The Clippers pulled out, not the Jazz. And besides maybe its a good thing the clips pulled out, now the Jazz can go for a point guard that is more their style. (Burke) He's a good passer, good spot up shooter, still has a great wingspan, not tremendous athletic ability like Bledsoe but enough.
Bledsoe would not have worked so well for the Jazz because he didn't pass often enough. He may have played well when Paul was out but that's only the because the ball was in his hands most of the time. His job was to score, or get it to Blake and let him do the work, as well as play D. Anyone can do that. But on the Jazz, he would have to pass to everyone, not do so much scoring, and play more D. So I don't know if he would succeed. Look at Darren Collison when he was in New Orleans. (I'm not comparing Collison to Bledsoe, just how they did when Paul was hurt) Both played amazing in Paul's place, but once Collison left New Orleans his numbers went back down to what we expected. Grant it Collison is not the athletic freak that Bledsoe is, but I bet you money that if the trade would have happened, Bledsoe's numbers still would have gone down from what we saw in LA while Paul was out.
So stop your whining, we can still land a very good point guard that will work out much better for us in Trey Burke. (using the Warriors pick) Then with our own pick, we can land James McAdoo, and then in the second round go for Mike Muscala or Kenny Kadjii. I'm not quite sure what they'll do in the offseason, but I'm pretty sure Mo Williams, Randy Foye, and Millsap will all stay. The Jazz will be just fine and probably better off without Bledsoe.
Oh and, Trey Burke has a real good shot to win National POY. How awesome would that be for the Jazz to draft the player that won POY?
Man, if you were only to go off media and web threads, you would swear that Houston was ahead of the Jazz in the standings. Utah isn't going anywhere if the assumption is that Gordon Hayward, Alec Burks, and Derrick Favors are going to be leading them. Watch Derrick Favors play. He has to be a fifth option in the offense if a team actually wants to win games. Enes Kanter is not consistent yet. People should come to realize that the Jazz are probably going to try to keep either Millsap or Jefferson this summer, and in my opinion would do themselves well to use one of their picks to get another developmental PF or C (and in this draft there really is no other kind) to eventually work in as a 4th rotational big. Even then, it is a big gamble to break apart the most productive front court rotation in the NBA and risk exposing their terrible perimeter players to a bigger roles.