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JaVale McGee, How Good Can He Be?

Last night JaVale McGee played 16 minutes, scored 10 points, had 6 rebounds and blocked 6 shots. It's that last stat that got my attention. Are you serious, 6 shots in only 16 minutes?

Last year I watched only one Wizards game and J. McGee was everywhere, blocking shots all night while dominating the lane on defense. For that one game, McGee looked like an All Star. And on the offense end of the court he wasn't great but he managed to show some decent moves.

I never paid any attention to him prior to that game so I kept asking myself is this guy for real. Does he have the potential to become a star.

Any thoughts?


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I'm not high on him as alot

I'm not high on him as alot of people are..When you look at Tyson Chandler i think you're looking at what McGee will be...A very athletic big man that will hustle,block shots and despite their slender frames they can rebound well..But no post skills or go to move..But like Chandler did playing with CP3 in New Orleans..McGee & Wall will combine to give the fans some exciting fast break plays..I watch McGee sometimes and get angry,sometimes he choses not to dunk the ball with 2 hands, McGee perfers to do some ballerina type sh1t and misses horribly!!!Those type of things drive coaches crazy...Right now i'll rather have Marc Gasol over McGee...

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He can block shots that is

He can block shots that is for sure...He is definitely a 10 and 10 guy in the future. He is long, athletic, and has a ton of potential.

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Im from Reno and got the

Im from Reno and got the chance to see alot of JaVale. to be honest i dont think he will pan out to what we all think he should. he has crazy potential but his attitude and work ethic is not there. Im really hoping he does become a Marcus Camby type guy because i took him in fantasy lol

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6 blocks is impressive in 16

6 blocks is impressive in 16 minutes of play. But you seem so surprise that he was only limited to 16 minutes. Check out the rest of his stats: 4 TO's and 3 PF's... yes, in 16 minutes of play. Unless he reduces his TO's and fouls, his play will be limited to 28 to 30 minutes a night. The fact he's 22 makes him a very intriguing prospect. He certainly has the potential to become a "star" like Anthony Randolph, but I think we should see how he develops this season. After all, Harold Miner, JR Rider, and Bobby Hurley all has potential to become stars.

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Anthony Randolph is worse off

Anthony Randolph is worse off then McGee cuz Randolph still don't have a postion.

I was high on McGee in Nevada, sobered up on him in the league, then became high on him again at the end of last year.

The biggest thing in my eyes is that he is playing for Flip Saunders who always seems to get the most out of his big men. He did last year with Hayward he did in Minny and I think he will do it in Washington. Saunders defined a role for McGee now all he got to do is execute.

He is a better scorer and shot blocker then Chandler, and Chandler is a better rebounder.

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I think he will develop into

I think he will develop into an elite shot blocker, the kind of guy who gets 3+ a night and alters 5 more layups per game. I don't know how effective a post scorer he will turn out to be. I like the Chandler comparison, but despite Chandler's length and athleticism he is really only what I would consider a slightly above average shot blocker. While I think McGee's main strength is his shot blocking. I can't think of a player who is a 15 ppg 9-10 rpg 3 bpg type player off the top of my head, but thats where I think McGee's numbers will be in his prime.

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Andrew Bogut is about that.

Andrew Bogut is about that.

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Pay attention to the quotes around "star"

I never said that Randolph is better or worse than McGee. I merely categorized him as a potential "star" like what most people seem to believe these days. Another example of a potential "star" is JJ Hickson. Sheesh, I still can't believe the Cavs wouldn't trade him for Amare. Notice the quotation marks around "star".

I'm glad to know you jumped back on the bandwagon with McGee. Makes me wonder why you "sobered up on him" last year until he started putting up good stats.

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I've always said that if

I've always said that if McGee got the minutes, he has the potential to lead the league in shot-blocking. He is not as raw in the post as people say he is. He has a few moves and is developing a skyhook, which can become very useful. He can become a good low-post defender in the mold of Tyson Chandler or maybe even Marcus Camby. He is a very intimidating shot-blocker. Yes, he still tries to block to much, which can get him in foul trouble, but he's learning. He's a solid rebounder, but he needs to get better at boxing out. I think the Wizards need a bruiser along side Javale. He's not that strong and the Wizards need someone that is going to be a defensive anchor and some who will rebound consistently. Hopefully Seraphin or Booker can develop into the kind of player.The good thing is that he is still young and the odds are much better that he’ll get stronger and smarter at defensive positioning. If he improves in these areas, I think he has the potential to become an all-star.

The problem I have is that Flip Saunders is trying to make McGee something he's not. You have a guy who played point forward in high school at 6-11 and was used to taking it coast to coast on every play. The Wizards have this amazing hybrid weapon in their hands, this weird, raptor like monster, and they want to turn him into something he is not.

The player he reminds me of most is Tyson Chandler but McGee is is the better offensive player and shot-blocker while Chandler is the better rebounder.

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McGee's success depends on whether

Wall can get the ball to him.

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im very high on him, lets see

im very high on him, lets see how hard he works

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Seraphin who is a stronger

Seraphin who is a stronger build than McGee would be a good complimentary frontcourt partner for him where one provides the muscle and the other one the length. McGee as a shot blocker could have more potential than Chandler but his game should not be considered one dimensional like say Diop at Charlotte. McGee does have offensive potential but his main worth to Washington will be on the defensive end if he can develop a true shot altering presence whilst Wall can feed him enough baskets to keep him ticking over.

His ball handing skills will be a bonus when he rebounds as he will be able to look for the right pass to launch an attack in what may well be a fast break team. If he shows he can handle the ball then Wall and co will pass to him knowing he will not be a liability and could be a better ball handler than his opposing PF/C. No-one expects McGee to become a point forward type player but he can make considered passes to his team mates and would be a good option in any pick and role type plays.

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Type of player

He is type of player that teases you. He has all the tools but needs to get bigger and play with the right cast. Wall is definitely going to get him the ball. It is a plus that he can run all day as well as Blache, so he can get the rebounds and run on the break The jury is still out.....9 pts and 8 rebs avg mostly on the break because they won't run plays for him yet he will be abot 10-13 and 9 or 10 reb. in a few years. Right now Blache is their rebounder.

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He should be like Tyson

He should be like Tyson Chandler with elite shot-blocking, but I think he actually has a better post game than he's credited for. He has a sky hook and jump hooks as someone mentioned, and he shows some VERY promising counter moves when his initial move gets cut off. He probably won't have a true breakthrough next year, but in 2011-2012, McGee should be an impact player for the Wizards, especially playing with John Wall.

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@JNixon-Iggy9

Iggy, this might seem like a silly question and many people might say I should know this, but I've been wondering, what are counter moves?

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Say if someone is posting up,

Say if someone is posting up, and they go into their move but for whatever reason that move gets cut off by the defender, the move you make to try and score after the initial move doesn't work is the counter move.

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Thanks Iggy!

Thanks Iggy!

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The King of the Counter

The King of the Counter Move

This is kinda a bad example because Hakeem use to toy with people. He could of beat Robinson off the bat. But He thought Robinson had his lane blocked so Hakeem gave him the shake and was going to counter with the right hook, however Robinson anticipated that so Hakeem countered again with another pump fake that got Robinson off his feet for the up and under.

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The reason he didn't get more

The reason he didn't get more time is he was foul prone. His defensive IQ is low and hasn't changed because in around 20min a game he's still picking up 3fouls per game so he hasn't improved that yet.

He's the type that benifits greatly from having a passing point guard and has the potential to put up hasleem offensive numbers in his prime. He doesn't have better offensive potential than yi,blachte,wall,Howard,
Young  so running plays for him shouldn't be a concern. It's best if you let him attack the offensive glass and get points from alleys and hustle like a Shawn Marion while running you're offense through wall,Gilbert,young,Howard,blatche while he continues to develop

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When McGee came out of

When McGee came out of Nevada, I remember people saying that he had a mid-range jumper and such. Since he got to the NBA, there has been no evidence of that claim. If he could get consistent minutes, add to his post moves, and show that mid-range jumper, I could see him averaging 10-12ppg, 11rpg, and 2-3 blocks per game. I think he has potential, not "star" potential, but solid defensive big man potential. I don't ever think he would be an all-star, but he could be a 3rd or 4th option on a playoff team in the future.

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elite shot blocker for sure

javale will be an elite top 5 in the league shot blocker imo with about 12 points and 9 boards a game hell seldom if ever get plays ran for him and be with wall at the point they gonna make for sum sick alley oops

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McGee could actually develop

McGee could actually develop a more solid post game. Though he doesn't many moves that you consider to be your average textbook moves, he is slippery in the post and uses his length and athleticism to score in a variety of ways. It may not look pretty, but at least he has some sort of post game and will only get better, unlike Tyson Chandler, who has seemingly hit his ceiling as a player. I personally would be very dissapointed as a Wizards fan if he didn't at the very least become better than Chandler. He does have a very low I.Q. on both sides of the ball. He has trouble setting picks at times and gets somne unneccesary offensive fouls because of it. On defense he may be a very good shot blocker, but he is very poor at rotations and positioning expecially on boxing out and playing against the pick and roll. Again, he makes up for it though with his size, length and athleticism. Andray Blatche and Sam Cassell both have very good post moves, so maybe some of them will rub off on McGee....

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McGee looks very solid so far

McGee looks very solid so far with John Wall. Really reminds me of Chris Paul and Chandler, I like the Chandler comparison in general.

Worst case I see for McGee is a 24mpg 6th man, kinda like Chris Andersen, who can run, block shots and get some rebounds. And that's pretty solid if you compare it to his previous years.

The question is if he puts on some pounds if he can stay such an explosive shot blocker. He'll probably have to give some of that ability up, to become a better post defender.

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No McGee arms are so long he

No McGee arms are so long he will always be able to block shots even if he played with ankle weights on.

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McGee needs to put on some

McGee needs to put on some more muscle, that is for sure.

I think everyone here agrees with the point production to expect from him this year. About 9-10 ppgs is what is expected. With Blatche, Wall, and Arenas ahead of him in the pecking order, that would be a solid scoring season for him. Plus, Josh Howard, when healthy, and Thornton will be getting their touches.

He just needs to focus on defense and rebounding this year. The Wizards have plenty of scorers.

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@Mr. 19134 yeah of course he

@Mr. 19134

yeah of course he will, but maybe not 3bpg, probably a bit less

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"Last night JaVale McGee

"Last night JaVale McGee played 16 minutes, scored 10 points, had 6 rebounds and blocked 6 shots. It's that last stat that got my attention. Are you serious, 6 shots in only 16 minutes?

Last year I watched only one Wizards game and J. McGee was everywhere, blocking shots all night while dominating the lane on defense. For that one game, McGee looked like an All Star. And on the offense end of the court he wasn't great but he managed to show some decent moves.

I never paid any attention to him prior to that game so I kept asking myself is this guy for real. Does he have the potential to become a star.

Any thoughts?"

Right up there with the Luke Harangody is making GMs look dumb with his one good preseason game in seven. JaVale McGee has been benched this preseason for being more style than substance. The league is full of talented teases, and as of right now it is hard to call him anything but a huge tease.

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Agree^^^^

Agree^^^^

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I think he will probably end

I think he will probably end up somewhere between Tyson Chandler and Ryan Hollins. Athletic big men who aren't really all that skilled at basketball.

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Shot Blocking is more about

Shot Blocking is more about timing then it is explosiveness.

Look at Mutombo that dude could barely jump a lick but he is one of the greatest shot blockers of all time.

And McGee is putting on weight but with his broad shoulders and long arms he seems to be filling into a more David Robinson type body. Which is good he is a lean muscular guy.

Regardless McGee will always be a prolific shot blocker.

And he has more offensive skill then you guys give him credit for he just don't know how are when to use them.

McGee can hit a 15 footer or take his man off the dribble from about 15 feet out. And like Nixon mentioned he got a few hook shots he can hit. He just don't have the confidence to use them in games.

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Tyson Chandler 06-08....his

Tyson Chandler 06-08....his shot blocking ability..not mch offense beside going up and catching oops....but he is developing a nice little jump shot..

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ya looking at mcgee, he isnt

ya looking at mcgee, he isnt as skinny as i thought. and it does take time for big men to develop but i just dont see him creating much offense for himself in the future. he can be a 12 and 12 guy just on hustle and his athleticism, which is fine, thats why everyone loves j noah.

heres a real question, who would you rather have right now and in the future, javale mcgee or deandre jordan? both are similar as they are offensive challenged big men with great athleticism.

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^^^DeAndre Jordan & McGee are

^^^DeAndre Jordan & McGee are both MAJOR TEASES!!!!

but if i had to pick 1 it'll be McGee

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I'd easily take Javale McGee

I'd easily take Javale McGee over DeAndre Jordan.

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yeah he can take his man off

yeah he can take his man off the dribble as long as its a straight line and no one gets in his way or reaches for the ball. thats one of the main reasons the coach has sat him a couple times during the preseason. he tries to do things that arent his strength. i like the deandre jordan/mcGee thing. neither can stay on the floor too long because of foul trouble because of bad defensive IQ. both can block shots and are athletic

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