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Jason Collins

I wish every media outlet would stop pretending like Jason Collins isn't getting an NBA job because of his announcement, or because of all the attention the team would receive and etc. Let's be honest, if he never came out and said he was gay his NBA career would have been over without anyone blinking. The fact is, he can't get an NBA job because he sucks. Not more to it.


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No pun intended

No pun intended

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Glad someones being honest.

Glad someones being honest. He was a role player who was more than likely on his way out any way. I read a stat that said he had more fouls than points in a season and he was quoted saying "got 6 six fouls, ya gotta use em right?" Straight or Gay I don't see a team that desperate to run a sign him.

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Well said! No one cares he is

Well said! No one cares he is gay, he can't play! My GPA is higher then his career PPG average!

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He came out and said he was

He came out and said he was gay because he knew he probably wasn't getting another job in the NBA and he did not want to hold it in any longer.

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PC

The PC culture in America Sux!!

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I think it's just non sports

I think it's just non sports journalists trying to cover sports. No reputible sports publication I've seen ( maybe there are others I have not ) have painted that picture because they've covered him for 15 years and know he's not much more than 6 fouls and a screen setter, that requires a higher salary because of his veteran status, at this point in his career.

Is there a specific article you've seen? because I haven't seen this sentiment.

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I've seen on some sites

I've seen on some sites people that suggested that the NBA should have him in the league,just becuz he is gay..They feel it'll send a major statemnet that the league has come a long way in accepting & tolerating the gay lifestyle..I think thats absurb.....

He had career averages of a mere 3.6 pts/3.8.rbs/0.5blks...Coaches love him becuz he was a 7 footer that banged,set great screens,worked hard in practice and didnt cause any trouble...If a team signed him that'll have to pay him the veteran minimum of 1.4 million dollars.With alot of teams cutting back,i doubt if there was any team that was willing to give that to a 35 year old that cant score,is a poor rebounder,cant block shots...And only thing he has to offer a team was setting great screens....

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I think people should only be

I think people should only be covered if they perform or overcome a lot of obstacles. Guys like Jason Collins and Tim Tebow get way too much coverage and did nothing to earn it. I wish the media would cover things that matter and clearly the crappy reporting of news is just as bad as the crappy sports reporting.

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I was expecting this might be

I was expecting this might be a story back when he came out if he didn't get a job, but like joewolf said above, I honestly have not seen any stories about it yet. This thread is probably the first time ive heard it come up.

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Collins

To be honest I don't see how Collins has been in the NBA this long, let alone all of those years he was able to get to start. He was always a low impact player. The thing about the NBA is that once you stay in the league a few years, guys with good basketball IQs can often find ways to keep getting on teams because they are "veterans."

The problem at this point isn't so much that he is not very good, but it is not worth signing a player that is a bench player and possibly the last guy off the bench if the guy is going to bring a circus with him. It's not his fault at all, but ESPN and others are going to milk it for all it is worth. He becomes more of a distraction. It's the same thing with Tim Tebow. Is he a very good QB? No, but he is probably better than a few starters and even though he can't throw he is going to end up being more effective than a lot of 2nd or 3rd stringers. Problem is that your 2nd and 3rd string QB can't be a distraction. The guys own cult following has pretty much helped to kill his NFL career.

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I mean, Yeah his stats suck,

I mean, Yeah his stats suck, but he's a great post defender. Dwight howard has his lowest career averages against this guy. He has value as a player who is specifically on the roster to guard Dwight when the playoffs come around. Besides that, nothing.

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There are actually a couple

There are actually a couple of gay ESPN reporters that keep trying to bring up Collins and hoping he get signed to represent their cause. It is sick. Dude can not play and I want to slap his brother for trying to bring up that Jason is in the best shape in his life. Seriously, are you trying to sell us on he is in better shape now then he was when he was younger. Collins is not worth the 1.4 million that teams would have to pay. There are not enough physical post players for his one some called positive to mean anything. Also I am sure a lot of post players may not like the fact that he wants to be overly physical with them all the time.

Let's be real when guys played some sports whether it was basketball and maybe football, we might occasionally got a nice grab and pretended it was just a accident.

I believe that Jason could use players fear of getting too close as a kind of defense.

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I'd be curious to hear what

I'd be curious to hear what ESPN's gay reporters have to say on the matter, can you post a link please?

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Collins per 36 minutes stats

Collins per 36 minutes stats last year: 3.8 points (at 31% FG% (that is not a typo and this is for a Center who generally shots very close to the basket. Collins made Reggie Evans look like Pistol Pete in the scoring category)) and 5.6 rebounds. So if you play him you get nearly no help in scoring and you get beat on the boards. Also Collins doesn't block shots and he fouled at a high rate (8 fouls per 36 minutes). You can't set enough good screens to make up for that lack of production.

And the point above is that he will bring a distraction is also a major point. What if you hire him to be a practice guy and the media gets on your case that you need to play him in games?

Money, however, isn't that big a deal. Yes the veteran minimum is high, but I believe the League steps in and helps a team with some of that money. So the team doesn't have to pay of all of the veteran's salary.

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