What kind of impact do you guys think Harden will make in the NBA? Personally, I think he will be a great addition to any team and in his prime he will be a borderline all-star averaging 18-19 ppg 4-5 apg and 4-5 rpg...
I was very big on Harden as recently as a month ago, but teams are beginning to figure out how to guard him.
Don't get me wrong, I think he'll be a very good player but he's definitely slipping. He relies too much on his physicality and strength, advantages he won't have in the NBA.
I agree, I think Toronto would be an ideal fit for Harden, he would be playing with a pass-first PG in Calderon and a dominant big-man in Bosh (until of course he walks). This would be a very nice fit for both the player and the team.
I Agree 100%, Bosh Needs someone like that on his team and the Raptors need a Basketball player like Harden that can score at the 2 Position in the league. Harden is the right guy for Toronto, hope he falls there cause he will have a great impact in that system and he will have a great career there.
He looks slow and kind of on the chubby side. Not a good athlete but he has potential to be a scorer in the NBA. He will never be much of a defender and he has shown that he can create his own offense so far in the tournament.
One of his strengths is defense...Yes he LOOKS chubby, but he obviously isn't.
Jimmy Harden will fit in better in the NBA game. College teams figured out they could key in on him by the end of the season, and his supporting cast was not deep or strong enough to capitalize on that. His strength will make him a good 1-on-1 player that will be able to create his own shot in the NBA. He does remind me a lot of Brandon Roy, and I think his athleticism will also perhaps surprise some people come workout time.
James Harden will be a complete bust in the NBA.
There will be 2nd round picks who end up being better.
Harden was just godawful during the tournament, no questioning that. He will measure poorly (looks like he has a higher body fat % than he should and he is closer to 6-4 than 6-5/6) and might fall to the Bulls!!!
Sorry, guys, time for NBADraft.net to update its rankings. This guy's a late first rounder (around #20, perhaps) at best.
He just doesn't have the explosiveness (to rise up over defenders) or quickness (to get by them) to create his own shot, which are de rigeur for a high lottery SG, and his perimeter shot is unimpressive.
I like his create and dish abilities, but he won't be a PG in the NBA so that's a marginal skill to have.
I declare the James Harden bubble officially burst.
Arizona State doesn't have a great team around him. and so he had to score at will. In the NBA he will be on a team with a superstar and he can be a 2nd option, since he is so unselfish and Rip Hamilton can't create one but he still averages 18-20 points a game so there you go.
This is why I normally don't read/write on messageboards.
Just a completely ignorant post. You watch one game and all the sudden, the guy can't play in the NBA.
He clearly has the skills to be a very good starting shooting guard in the NBA, and to argue otherwise is just dumb.
I have seen him play in the regular season. So what? The tourney is a test whether a guy can create his own shot. I don't care if they were keying on him, it doesn't change my basic observations -- couldn't create his own shot. Average 3 pt. shooter. Two core skills for a top SG.
But whatever. I guarantee you he won't be picked third like this site has him. Late lottery if he's lucky.
I respectfully disagree. Look at players like Chris Paul, Tim Duncan, Shaq, Kevin Durant, OJ Mayo, etc. Their teams never did much in the tourney. That did not define who they were in the NBA.
I think Harden certainly had an off game against Syracuse, but a lot of the shots he missed were shots that normally go down for him. Every player has those kind of nights. He knew the key to beating that 2-3 zone was finding players for open looks on the interior, especially when Pendergraph couldn't get anything going inside.
Trying to take over that game was the not the answer for his team. Unfortunately, the shots weren't falling for the Sun Devils.
I still think he has the size/strength/shot/scoring ability as a 2-guard to make him one of the top 5 players in the draft this year. Looking at his tools, to me, he seems to be a less athletic D-Wade with his combo of strength and basketball IQ. This game doesn't change that.
I have watched those guys and he simply isn't in their class.
NBADraft.net occasionally becomes fixated on a player and is loathe to admit they overestimated him till the very end.
No, he didn't just drop from 3 to 4. Late lottery at best.
Look what guys like Price from UConn are doing. Harden 4th and Price not even in the first round? You gotta be kidding. Upside-down world.
He needs to assert himself. He cost his team a chance at teh sweet sixteen with his play.
James Harden still will be a top-five pick. What Syracuse and Termple did was throw 2 guys at him and other than Pendergraph the rest of thier team just wasn't that good. Now in the NBA, he will have better players around him so i think he will be like a 20 ppg scorer with a few all-star game apperances. you don't have to be a great athlete to be in the NBA (Rip Hamilton and Michael Redd) and those are 2 players he compares to. Not a great athlete by any stretch, but finds a way to put points on the board.