[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Call me crazy, but if I was Philadelphia and I had the number one pick I would go with Jamal Murray. I believe he is probably the best fit for what the 76ers need. They need a shooter, finisher, and playmaker on the perimeter to play with Jahlil Okafor. He reminds me of some sorts of Brandon Roy with his skill set, but I see Jamal Murray as more of a point guard in the NBA than  Roy.

I know people might call me crazy because Ben Simmons probably will be the best player headed into the draft. But, I just don’t see Ben Simmons being a fit with Philadelphia. I believe Ben Simmons is more of a stretch 4 than an small forward. My opinion can change if he proves that he can make three pointers. So right now If I’m the Sixers I would take Jamal Murray with the number one pick for the Sixers than Ben Simmons.

The Sixers are looking prime to take the Lakers firsr round pick and they can take whoever left between likely wings Brandon Ingram and Jaylen Brown. I believe both fit the current roster with Jahlil Okafor, Nerlens Noel, Dario Saric, and Joel Embiid than Ben Simmons. Both Brown and Ingram are both great slashers and cutters with a better jump shot than Simmons. 

I know most would argue this post with "Why would the Sixers take both Simmons and Murray with their two top picks". The thing is I don’t believe Murray will last that long and I believe a Murray and Ingram/Brown duo fits better than the Murray/Simmons duo. And I know that a lot will say "go with draft the best player/prospect available", but I believe around the time of the draft Jamal Murray will be the best prospect.

I would love some feedback

 

 

 

 

[trelos6Participant]

You’d have to go with Murray and Brown/Ingrim.

This team needs some decent perimeter players, and some spacing.  Once they have that, Noel and Okafor have the bigs covered.

 

 

 

 

  

[trelos6Participant]

You’d have to go with Murray and Brown/Ingrim.

This team needs some decent perimeter players, and some spacing.  Once they have that, Noel and Okafor have the bigs covered.

 

 

 

 

  

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 I don’t think Phila will get Simmons b/c I think that top pick will go to a team other than the worst team (like it usually does) – …… And I agree that they might be better off getting Murray & Ingram / Brown if the Lakers pick transfers this year…. Saric basically plays the same position as Simmons anyway…. But if they do get that top pick, I just can’t see them passing on Simmons…. & in that case I would take Brown or Ingram w/ the Lakers pick…. I agree that Simmons & Murray on the same team prob won’t work b/c they both need to handle the ball….

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Murray and Simmons are both high IQ guys.  Meaning, they know how to play with and without the ball.  Both guys will easily feed off the other.  Murray is a good shooter so that goes well with Simmons who will create opportunities for teammates.

Its a good topic, but let’s assume somehow the Sixers get 4 or 5 from LA (not likely).  Who among the Big 5, or Big 6 if you want to include Murray, is more likely to not get picked, based on NBA play.

Simmons – 6’10” beast.  Cut it short, very unlikely he’s not taken in top 4.

Labissiere – Strength is a concern, but a bigman that can shoot like that you can’t pass up on.  He is more rare than a solid guard.  Will more than likely play out a top 3 pick.

Ingram – I think a 3 with the skill and length of Ingram, is more desireable than a solid guard.  So he’s likely a top 4 pick.

These 3 will more than likely definitely go over Murray simply because of the uniqueness of their play, so if the Sixrs somehow land 1 and 4 from the Lakers, its a safe bet Murray will still be there.

Jaylen Brown – Hyperathletic swingman with some rawness to him.  If your team prefers this to a solid guard, likely Brown will be taken simply because his athleticism translates into the NBA.

Dragan Bender – his contract might prevent him from being picked over Murray, but again, I highly doubt Murray is more desirable than a 7′ that can shoot from the outside.

So Murray appears to be a really good talent, but there isn’t any John-Wall-type athleticism thats there, nor otherwordly skill to justify taking him over anyone other than in my opinion, maybe Jaylen Brown.

Which means if the Sixers get 4 or 5, its still very likely Murray will be there.  There’s no way I’d pass up on Simmons for a Guard.

Yeah its a Guard’s league, but you can get solid guards.  Its much tougher to find do-it-all swingmen.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 fan…. Obviously Labissere is not in the Sixer’s picture…. If they get that Lakers pick – any combination of Simmons, Brown, Ingram & Murray is cause for a parade in Phila…. All I was saying was that I agree w/ the original post that Both Murray & Simmons like the ball in their hands & I would still be excited if I was a Sixers fan if I did not get both guys… just one of them along w/ Brown or Ingram would be a Great haul for Phila…. But I def agree that if you guys are lucky enough to get Simmons & Murray they would absolutely figure it out & it would be a great day for Sixers fans…. 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 fan…. Obviously Labissere is not in the Sixer’s picture…. If they get that Lakers pick – any combination of Simmons, Brown, Ingram & Murray is cause for a parade in Phila…. All I was saying was that I agree w/ the original post that Both Murray & Simmons like the ball in their hands & I would still be excited if I was a Sixers fan if I did not get both guys… just one of them along w/ Brown or Ingram would be a Great haul for Phila…. But I def agree that if you guys are lucky enough to get Simmons & Murray they would absolutely figure it out & it would be a great day for Sixers fans…. 

[SlickBouncePassParticipant]

Murray and Simmons are both high IQ guys.  Meaning, they know how to play with and without the ball.  Both guys will easily feed off the other.  Murray is a good shooter so that goes well with Simmons who will create opportunities for teammates.

Its a good topic, but let’s assume somehow the Sixers get 4 or 5 from LA (not likely).  Who among the Big 5, or Big 6 if you want to include Murray, is more likely to not get picked, based on NBA play.

Simmons – 6’10” beast.  Cut it short, very unlikely he’s not taken in top 4.

Labissiere – Strength is a concern, but a bigman that can shoot like that you can’t pass up on.  He is more rare than a solid guard.  Will more than likely play out a top 3 pick.

Ingram – I think a 3 with the skill and length of Ingram, is more desireable than a solid guard.  So he’s likely a top 4 pick.

These 3 will more than likely definitely go over Murray simply because of the uniqueness of their play, so if the Sixrs somehow land 1 and 4 from the Lakers, its a safe bet Murray will still be there.

Jaylen Brown – Hyperathletic swingman with some rawness to him.  If your team prefers this to a solid guard, likely Brown will be taken simply because his athleticism translates into the NBA.

Dragan Bender – his contract might prevent him from being picked over Murray, but again, I highly doubt Murray is more desirable than a 7′ that can shoot from the outside.

So Murray appears to be a really good talent, but there isn’t any John-Wall-type athleticism thats there, nor otherwordly skill to justify taking him over anyone other than in my opinion, maybe Jaylen Brown.

Which means if the Sixers get 4 or 5, its still very likely Murray will be there.  There’s no way I’d pass up on Simmons for a Guard.

Yeah its a Guard’s league, but you can get solid guards.  Its much tougher to find do-it-all swingmen.  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 I don’t think Phila will get Simmons b/c I think that top pick will go to a team other than the worst team (like it usually does) – …… And I agree that they might be better off getting Murray & Ingram / Brown if the Lakers pick transfers this year…. Saric basically plays the same position as Simmons anyway…. But if they do get that top pick, I just can’t see them passing on Simmons…. & in that case I would take Brown or Ingram w/ the Lakers pick…. I agree that Simmons & Murray on the same team prob won’t work b/c they both need to handle the ball….

[BrentSuriaga01Participant]

If they have the No. 1 pick they should still go for Simmons, then draft Murray with the Lakers Pick. That would be the best scenario for them.

C – Embiid (if healthy)

PF – Oak

SF – Simmons

SG – Stauskas

PG – Murray

Bench – Noel, McConnell, Saric, LeVert

 

 

 

 

[BrentSuriaga01Participant]

If they have the No. 1 pick they should still go for Simmons, then draft Murray with the Lakers Pick. That would be the best scenario for them.

C – Embiid (if healthy)

PF – Oak

SF – Simmons

SG – Stauskas

PG – Murray

Bench – Noel, McConnell, Saric, LeVert

 

 

 

 

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 How is Ben a stretch 4 when his worst skill at this point is his shooting?

[he_gets_bucketsParticipant]

 How is Ben a stretch 4 when his worst skill at this point is his shooting?

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[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Draymond Green is a stretch 4, but shooting 33% last year from three last year is good for a power forward. That number is bad for a wing player. 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Draymond Green is a stretch 4, but shooting 33% last year from three last year is good for a power forward. That number is bad for a wing player. 

[bumbleb33Participant]

Yeah I dont think u know what a stretch 4 is. Draymond green is like steve nash compared to ben simmons when it comes to shooting. That was draymond’s first year as a starter. Look at him this year, 42% from 3. 

How can Ben simmons be a stretch 4 when his biggest weaknesses are shooting and post Defense. 

 

 

[bumbleb33Participant]

Yeah I dont think u know what a stretch 4 is. Draymond green is like steve nash compared to ben simmons when it comes to shooting. That was draymond’s first year as a starter. Look at him this year, 42% from 3. 

How can Ben simmons be a stretch 4 when his biggest weaknesses are shooting and post Defense. 

 

 

[FrankStallone]

 The same way DRussell can be a James Harden level athlete.

 

 

[FrankStallone]

 The same way DRussell can be a James Harden level athlete.

 

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 33% is 33% however you look at it. He’s shooting 42% in a very small sample size, I’m saying shooting 33% from 3 is very respectable for a stretch four, it’s bad for  a three. 

Look at Jabari Parker, he;s not the best shooter in the world, but he’s still considered a stretch four. Markieff Morris is considered a stretch for while shooting less than 30% from 3 this season and shooting 32.7% from 3 in his career. I believe Ben Simmons can shoot in that range and that’s respectable for a power forward and you have to respect that shot for opposing power forwards. You don’t get that respect from the small forward position.

 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 33% is 33% however you look at it. He’s shooting 42% in a very small sample size, I’m saying shooting 33% from 3 is very respectable for a stretch four, it’s bad for  a three. 

Look at Jabari Parker, he;s not the best shooter in the world, but he’s still considered a stretch four. Markieff Morris is considered a stretch for while shooting less than 30% from 3 this season and shooting 32.7% from 3 in his career. I believe Ben Simmons can shoot in that range and that’s respectable for a power forward and you have to respect that shot for opposing power forwards. You don’t get that respect from the small forward position.

 

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You need to go watch Simmons highlights from todays game and decide whether you stand by your original statement. 

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You need to go watch Simmons highlights from todays game and decide whether you stand by your original statement. 

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Yeah, I still stand by my original statement. I like Jamal Murray and Ben Simmons very much the same and I don’t believe Murray will be at the Lakers pick when the draft goes around.

[ChicagoCaseyParticipant]

 Yeah, I still stand by my original statement. I like Jamal Murray and Ben Simmons very much the same and I don’t believe Murray will be at the Lakers pick when the draft goes around.

[HitsterParticipant]

A lot of Philly’s draft strategy will depend on if the pick from the Lakers comes their way or not and where that ends up being. If Philly have two top 5 picks they have loads draft options, if the LAkers pick doesn’t come over or ends up being further down the lottery than Hinkie hopes then their own pick is even more key to them.

Also until the lottery balls are drawn we won’t know where Philly will be picking if they don’t get a top 1 or 2 pick and end up at say 3 like the last two years or even lower then Murray is really in the mix for them.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

A lot of Philly’s draft strategy will depend on if the pick from the Lakers comes their way or not and where that ends up being. If Philly have two top 5 picks they have loads draft options, if the LAkers pick doesn’t come over or ends up being further down the lottery than Hinkie hopes then their own pick is even more key to them.

Also until the lottery balls are drawn we won’t know where Philly will be picking if they don’t get a top 1 or 2 pick and end up at say 3 like the last two years or even lower then Murray is really in the mix for them.

 

[ballislyfe25Participant]

I don’t think Philly’s strategy will depend at all on the Lakers pick. Hinkie usually goes best player available and he’s going to take who he believes that player is regardless of the rest of his draft.

[ballislyfe25Participant]

I don’t think Philly’s strategy will depend at all on the Lakers pick. Hinkie usually goes best player available and he’s going to take who he believes that player is regardless of the rest of his draft.

[BlazermannParticipant]

 Simmons would be concidered a quick four I believe 

[BlazermannParticipant]

 Simmons would be concidered a quick four I believe 

[ballislyfe25Participant]

"Playmaking four" or "point forward" seems more appropriate but nonetheless I agree that his default/natural position is the 4.

[ballislyfe25Participant]

"Playmaking four" or "point forward" seems more appropriate but nonetheless I agree that his default/natural position is the 4.

[Juice4o2Participant]

 Hinkie will go with the best player available motto if he were to land the #1 pick.  Simmons is a can’t miss prospect.  I do like Murray as well but if we do indeed grab the Lakers pick he’ll be there.  Otherwise there will be guys like Kris Dunn or Demetrius Jackon who I’m exteremely high on. 

I’m also not opposed to take another wing player if Murray happens to go before the Sixers second pick.  If someone like Ingram or Brown were to slide a bit, I’d take the gamble on two wings.  Best player available motto and stock up on your assets because more then likely someone will be traded during the draft or 2016 season.

 

 

[Juice4o2Participant]

 Hinkie will go with the best player available motto if he were to land the #1 pick.  Simmons is a can’t miss prospect.  I do like Murray as well but if we do indeed grab the Lakers pick he’ll be there.  Otherwise there will be guys like Kris Dunn or Demetrius Jackon who I’m exteremely high on. 

I’m also not opposed to take another wing player if Murray happens to go before the Sixers second pick.  If someone like Ingram or Brown were to slide a bit, I’d take the gamble on two wings.  Best player available motto and stock up on your assets because more then likely someone will be traded during the draft or 2016 season.

 

 

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