[don042488Participant]

 Aside from the draft picks the Philadelphia 76’ers drafted, Toney Wroten, and Pierre Jackson, the talent base on the team is mediocre…It shouldn’t be that way, because there’s so much talent still available in free agency such as Andray Blatche,  Eric Bledsoe, Ramon Sessions,  Manny Harris, Kevin Murphy, Ike Diogu, Jordan Hamilton,  Jordan Crawford,  and etc. Sam Hinkie wants to build through the draft and save money which is cool, but in the process it’s hurting free agents, especially when they’re one of the few teams left that can actually afford to sign them to a reasonable or lucrative deal…I could see the league finding a way to stop the whole building through the draft and saving money method in the next labor deal…It’s not right, if teams go that route it’s keeping good talent out the league or having players settle for less money than they deserve on a team with limited cap space

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Why should the sixers be forced to sign a player they don’t want? Besides, why would the sixers spend max money, or close to it, on Bledsoe when they already have MCW at the helm. Same goes for Monroe. 

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Why should the sixers be forced to sign a player they don’t want? Besides, why would the sixers spend max money, or close to it, on Bledsoe when they already have MCW at the helm. Same goes for Monroe. 

[Ebown5Participant]

The only player mentioned with any real talent is Bledsoe, and he is going to cost a lot of money and is not at a need position. If the Sixers wanted him then they would offer him a deal, but they don’t want him. If we wanted an expensive point guard we would have kept Holliday. The team is going in a different direction.

Btw, we have been rebuilding for exactly one year. It isn’t like the Sixers have been doing this for 5 years. They will probably do this for one more year, maybe 2, and then will be back to trying to compete.

It is a  temporary condition.

[Ebown5Participant]

The only player mentioned with any real talent is Bledsoe, and he is going to cost a lot of money and is not at a need position. If the Sixers wanted him then they would offer him a deal, but they don’t want him. If we wanted an expensive point guard we would have kept Holliday. The team is going in a different direction.

Btw, we have been rebuilding for exactly one year. It isn’t like the Sixers have been doing this for 5 years. They will probably do this for one more year, maybe 2, and then will be back to trying to compete.

It is a  temporary condition.

[Hacker90Participant]

 Is still in the league?

[Hacker90Participant]

 Is still in the league?

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Hold up hold up hold up, you used Manny Harris, Kevin Murphy, and Ike Diogu in the same sentence as Eric Bledsoe in regards to talent????

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Hold up hold up hold up, you used Manny Harris, Kevin Murphy, and Ike Diogu in the same sentence as Eric Bledsoe in regards to talent????

[TRC1991Participant]

After reading this post, my reaction is this:

 

HAHAHAA…..WHAT?!

 

 

 

[TRC1991Participant]

After reading this post, my reaction is this:

 

HAHAHAA…..WHAT?!

 

 

 

[Lafferty DanielParticipant]

You seem like a nice guy Don.  I’m glad you post on this forum.  Taylor is right though.  WTF?   

Sometimes I wonder if you are f’ing with the guy on your avatar.  Or is that really you?

[Lafferty DanielParticipant]

You seem like a nice guy Don.  I’m glad you post on this forum.  Taylor is right though.  WTF?   

Sometimes I wonder if you are f’ing with the guy on your avatar.  Or is that really you?

[don042488Participant]

 I never said any of those players are close to the same level as far as talent, but those players listed are better than Hollis Thompson,  Ware, Adonis Thomas, and Brandon Daviies…I also never said they should be forced to use the max or consider Bledsoe, the point I’m trying to make is that the more teams do what the Sixers are currently doing the more players who can actually play won’t be in the league or won’t ever get paid the money they deserve.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Good thing the Sixers are one team. How many other teams are doing what the sixers are doing?

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Good thing the Sixers are one team. How many other teams are doing what the sixers are doing?

[don042488Participant]

 I never said any of those players are close to the same level as far as talent, but those players listed are better than Hollis Thompson,  Ware, Adonis Thomas, and Brandon Daviies…I also never said they should be forced to use the max or consider Bledsoe, the point I’m trying to make is that the more teams do what the Sixers are currently doing the more players who can actually play won’t be in the league or won’t ever get paid the money they deserve.

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 Theyre not trying to win this year at all. They want another top 3 pick this year to put with embiid, saric, and mcw

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 Theyre not trying to win this year at all. They want another top 3 pick this year to put with embiid, saric, and mcw

[don042488Participant]

 You guys obviously don’t know what I’m talking about….The point I’m trying to make is although teams like the Jazz and the Magic are rebuilding through the draft, and hope ever year to get a top 3 pick, they at least sign quality NBA players to play along side their youth movement…The Sixers sign these bum players to fill out their roster, when they’re better quality players they can sign who is more deserving of a job…That is my point I’m trying to make

[don042488Participant]

 You guys obviously don’t know what I’m talking about….The point I’m trying to make is although teams like the Jazz and the Magic are rebuilding through the draft, and hope ever year to get a top 3 pick, they at least sign quality NBA players to play along side their youth movement…The Sixers sign these bum players to fill out their roster, when they’re better quality players they can sign who is more deserving of a job…That is my point I’m trying to make

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Why spend money on players you don’t want? The sixers would rather pay smaller contracts to more expendable players than to give lots of money to players not in their future plans. It makes a lot of sense.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Why spend money on players you don’t want? The sixers would rather pay smaller contracts to more expendable players than to give lots of money to players not in their future plans. It makes a lot of sense.

[tuck243Participant]

what Sam Hinkie has proven is that he see players as numbers…   He view them as robots and doesn’t seem to understand that playing your young PG with TERRIBLE players can stunt his growth as a player…  Doesn’t seem to understand literally trying to tank with the worst possible line ups will develop the wrong culture in the locker room…

His purpose isn’t to win games or to even compete at a high level…  His purpose is to get into the #1 pick next season…  That’s it…  Makes 0 sense to pay players more money if you really are trying to tank…  Sam is treating the Sixers like he’s playing as a GM on 2K…  Literally… 

  

[tuck243Participant]

what Sam Hinkie has proven is that he see players as numbers…   He view them as robots and doesn’t seem to understand that playing your young PG with TERRIBLE players can stunt his growth as a player…  Doesn’t seem to understand literally trying to tank with the worst possible line ups will develop the wrong culture in the locker room…

His purpose isn’t to win games or to even compete at a high level…  His purpose is to get into the #1 pick next season…  That’s it…  Makes 0 sense to pay players more money if you really are trying to tank…  Sam is treating the Sixers like he’s playing as a GM on 2K…  Literally… 

  

[don042488Participant]

 Jesus Christ!!!! You still aren’t understanding where I’m coming from…smh I never said they have to go out and get players like Monroe or Bledsoe for a max…smh They can pick up cheap players like a Jordan Hamilton,  Kevin Murphy,  Manny Harris, Ike Diogu, or etc who are way better NBA caliber players than Hollis Thompson,  Casper Ware, Adonis Thomas, and Brandon Daviies

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Are you trying to say that players like Jordan Hamilton, Kevin Murphy, Manny Harris are significantly better players? They’re not. If they were significantly better, like you suggest, and could be scooped up for a very cheap contract, like you suggest, then wouldn’t they already be on a team right now?

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Also, you kind of just defeated your original argument. You were saying how players aren’t getting fair value contracts, but now you are saying that you could get these same players for cheap.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

Also, you kind of just defeated your original argument. You were saying how players aren’t getting fair value contracts, but now you are saying that you could get these same players for cheap.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 Are you trying to say that players like Jordan Hamilton, Kevin Murphy, Manny Harris are significantly better players? They’re not. If they were significantly better, like you suggest, and could be scooped up for a very cheap contract, like you suggest, then wouldn’t they already be on a team right now?

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

to an audience who rarely if ever make original post.  Its easier to criticize and thats what they do.  I do agree somethings wrong with how the 6ers are maintaining their team.  Not that its not allowable but they build by failing instead of build to compete.  When their high draft picks like Noel, Embiid, and others down the line dont become who they envision they will get dumped and keep waiting for their "royal flush" in the draft.  Good for them but there should be different odds structure in the draft that benefits teams even up to the 5th seed in the playoffs other than just lottery.  Increase odds some way for teams who get the best value out of their team based on win/loss year to year.  Decrease odds for teams who draft high season after season and dont improve or get worse.  I ‘ve posted before on this but falls on deaf ears…

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

to an audience who rarely if ever make original post.  Its easier to criticize and thats what they do.  I do agree somethings wrong with how the 6ers are maintaining their team.  Not that its not allowable but they build by failing instead of build to compete.  When their high draft picks like Noel, Embiid, and others down the line dont become who they envision they will get dumped and keep waiting for their "royal flush" in the draft.  Good for them but there should be different odds structure in the draft that benefits teams even up to the 5th seed in the playoffs other than just lottery.  Increase odds some way for teams who get the best value out of their team based on win/loss year to year.  Decrease odds for teams who draft high season after season and dont improve or get worse.  I ‘ve posted before on this but falls on deaf ears…

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

to an audience who rarely if ever make original post.  Its easier to criticize and thats what they do.  I do agree somethings wrong with how the 6ers are maintaining their team.  Not that its not allowable but they build by failing instead of build to compete.  When their high draft picks like Noel, Embiid, and others down the line dont become who they envision they will get dumped and keep waiting for their "royal flush" in the draft.  Good for them but there should be different odds structure in the draft that benefits teams even up to the 5th seed in the playoffs other than just lottery.  Increase odds some way for teams who get the best value out of their team based on win/loss year to year.  Decrease odds for teams who draft high season after season and dont improve or get worse.  I ‘ve posted before on this but falls on deaf ears…

[PHXSUNDREAMPICK13Participant]

to an audience who rarely if ever make original post.  Its easier to criticize and thats what they do.  I do agree somethings wrong with how the 6ers are maintaining their team.  Not that its not allowable but they build by failing instead of build to compete.  When their high draft picks like Noel, Embiid, and others down the line dont become who they envision they will get dumped and keep waiting for their "royal flush" in the draft.  Good for them but there should be different odds structure in the draft that benefits teams even up to the 5th seed in the playoffs other than just lottery.  Increase odds some way for teams who get the best value out of their team based on win/loss year to year.  Decrease odds for teams who draft high season after season and dont improve or get worse.  I ‘ve posted before on this but falls on deaf ears…

[don042488Participant]

 Jesus Christ!!!! You still aren’t understanding where I’m coming from…smh I never said they have to go out and get players like Monroe or Bledsoe for a max…smh They can pick up cheap players like a Jordan Hamilton,  Kevin Murphy,  Manny Harris, Ike Diogu, or etc who are way better NBA caliber players than Hollis Thompson,  Casper Ware, Adonis Thomas, and Brandon Daviies

[ChoppyParticipant]

Ok Don/CJ McCollum, what they’re trying to say is this – The 6ers don’t want to be good. They don’t want to get quality players or players more deserving of being in the NBA because they may accidentally win an extra game or two and reduce their chances of the top overall pick. By paying minimum contracts for guys who suck, they guarantee they will be bad and will accrue more talent through the draft.

Hope this helps.

I see what you’re saying, it isn’t fair for those ‘better players’. But if those players don’t fit what you’re trying to do, why pay them even a minimum contract.

[ChoppyParticipant]

Ok Don/CJ McCollum, what they’re trying to say is this – The 6ers don’t want to be good. They don’t want to get quality players or players more deserving of being in the NBA because they may accidentally win an extra game or two and reduce their chances of the top overall pick. By paying minimum contracts for guys who suck, they guarantee they will be bad and will accrue more talent through the draft.

Hope this helps.

I see what you’re saying, it isn’t fair for those ‘better players’. But if those players don’t fit what you’re trying to do, why pay them even a minimum contract.

[don042488Participant]

 I never said that, I said if more teams do what the Sixers are doing that will eventually happen…And how many people in the real World are jobless,  but are worthy of jobs, because they have the proper credentials?  That doesn’t mean they aren’t worthy because at the present moment they’re jobless, it just means they haven’t found the employer that believes in their abilities yet…I’m sure everyone on hear got turned at once for a job they wanted and was qualified for

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

"having players settle for less money than they deserve"- don042488

Hate to break it to you, but you did say that

 

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

"having players settle for less money than they deserve"- don042488

Hate to break it to you, but you did say that

 

[don042488Participant]

 I never said that, I said if more teams do what the Sixers are doing that will eventually happen…And how many people in the real World are jobless,  but are worthy of jobs, because they have the proper credentials?  That doesn’t mean they aren’t worthy because at the present moment they’re jobless, it just means they haven’t found the employer that believes in their abilities yet…I’m sure everyone on hear got turned at once for a job they wanted and was qualified for

[Flameres15Participant]

 Aside from the many jokes involved in the original post, there is one interesting point. Jordan Crawford. He isn’t that good, but the 76ers don’t want to be good. He could boost their three point shooting an scoring, without winning too many games.

[Flameres15Participant]

 Aside from the many jokes involved in the original post, there is one interesting point. Jordan Crawford. He isn’t that good, but the 76ers don’t want to be good. He could boost their three point shooting an scoring, without winning too many games.

[Captain LParticipant]

 There are alot of players that are on the fringe of being good enough to play in the NBA but determining talent is in the eye of the beholder and each team could choose different players or value different players than you would.

[Captain LParticipant]

 There are alot of players that are on the fringe of being good enough to play in the NBA but determining talent is in the eye of the beholder and each team could choose different players or value different players than you would.

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

Next year ( 2015 ) Phila76ers will have :

Joel Embiid ready for play in December ( more probably in January/February )

1 first round pick in June

The possibility of bring Dario Saric on this side of the Atlantic Ocean

TONS of cap space

in 2 words : GOOD GM

[LeFlopJAMESParticipant]

Next year ( 2015 ) Phila76ers will have :

Joel Embiid ready for play in December ( more probably in January/February )

1 first round pick in June

The possibility of bring Dario Saric on this side of the Atlantic Ocean

TONS of cap space

in 2 words : GOOD GM

[NeggedNoelSaric]

Im not blown away by next years draft why not sign monroe or bledsoe to posin pill type deals so their respective teams dont match. 2 year deals with a 3rd year with a team option. With a huge first year. pay that decreases the last two significantly. Each year

 

Made. Like a possin pill deal

 

We arent looking. Like a salary dump destination. Teams seem reluctant. to deal with hinkie so why not acquire. these players as assets if asik can net a first rounder studs like monroe n eric can be used for something. 

 

We are banking on a salary dump that hasnt paid off even signing those two to those. Kind of deals will still keep our flexibilty j rich n thad come off the books

[NeggedNoelSaric]

Im not blown away by next years draft why not sign monroe or bledsoe to posin pill type deals so their respective teams dont match. 2 year deals with a 3rd year with a team option. With a huge first year. pay that decreases the last two significantly. Each year

 

Made. Like a possin pill deal

 

We arent looking. Like a salary dump destination. Teams seem reluctant. to deal with hinkie so why not acquire. these players as assets if asik can net a first rounder studs like monroe n eric can be used for something. 

 

We are banking on a salary dump that hasnt paid off even signing those two to those. Kind of deals will still keep our flexibilty j rich n thad come off the books

[NeggedNoelSaric]

 And last but not least we still get a top pick…tbh t wolves would jump on a three way deal with sixers if monroe is in deal.

I dont see the harm at all. We still get a top pick with this odd team n we get to proven commodities. We can move at ANY TIME WE WISH TO.

I didnt think he would sign anybody but when a chance is slapping u in ur face take it nobody thought. This would happen these were good players last season YOUNG STARTERS take them lool competitive. n flip them

 

 

 

[NeggedNoelSaric]

 And last but not least we still get a top pick…tbh t wolves would jump on a three way deal with sixers if monroe is in deal.

I dont see the harm at all. We still get a top pick with this odd team n we get to proven commodities. We can move at ANY TIME WE WISH TO.

I didnt think he would sign anybody but when a chance is slapping u in ur face take it nobody thought. This would happen these were good players last season YOUNG STARTERS take them lool competitive. n flip them

 

 

 

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