Isaiah Austin looking how Perry Jones should have looked...
It's only one game but Isaiah Austin had 22 points, 4 rebounds and 2 blocks in 17 minutes. 10-12 shooting, and 2-4 from 3. I still believe he's going to have to put on some weight because he will undoubtably be a 4 in the league but he has skills. This site has him listed at the end of the 1st round right now. Anyway's what are his prospects? Who do you think he compares to as a player?
I still see him as a Charlie Villanueva type Forward.
I've played with him at 24,and he reminds me of a mix between dirk and Durant .Because of his scoring ability ,being able to handle the ball and shoot and score with different moves down low
This guy can really do everything, shoot,pass,dribbling ,rebound,block shots , run the court.IMO very underrated by this site
What an incredible debut, especially when you consider that it was against a decent Lehigh squad over a mere 17 minutes.
If he can do damage on the glass, then Baylor could definitely be a Final Four team. Probably made a mistake leaving Baylor off of my top 14.
I just found out he only played 17 minutes because of an ankle sprain. Which those stats are great for the amount of time. I kind of like the Charlie V comparison. I think the Dirk/Durant thing is too much. Isaiah Austin is a great prospect, but because of his bad rebounding, I don't think he's a can't miss prospect.
i was so impressed by him. 22 points in only 17 minutes, plus a block and 3 boards. its a shame he hurt his ankle. he probably would have done even better. this kid is a real talent at baylor. im not sure who to compare him to?
Charlie V is a terrible comparison. First off Charlie was never that skinny, and he never possesed that type of length. They're completely different type of players.
Austin is more along the Lamarcus Aldridge/Chris Bosh mold. Or better yet some mix of Chris Bosh and Javele McGee.
This is the only site that has Austin at the end of the first round, most other people have him locked in the lottery. I've said for 2 years that he's a lottery pick when he declares because of his rare combination of size/length/skill.
2 players that this site really needs to get a new set of eyes for is Austin and CJ Leslie who is another guy that is a lottery talent that they have in the 2nd round.
So you guys really think Austin is closer to Charlie V then Bosh?
No center can defend a guy with his athleticism and skillset, ask Nerlens Noel. He reminds me of Charlie V also, watch games of him when he was in Toronto, he had a chance to be special. Mr Charlie is 230 pounds, why would you say he wasn't as skinny as Isaiah but your comparing him to heavier guys? Bosh and LA are both 240, and javale is 250 pounds
Is his athleticism even that good? He doesn't move that swiftly and he doesn't appear agile, like, with his 2nd and 3rd jumps or moving laterally. At his height and with his length, it's tough for college PFs and Cs to contest his shots when he extends. I'd just be worried about how his body would hold up at the next level. He's been painfully thin for forever and has had trouble putting on weight because he has a naturally thin frame with long toothpick legs. At least with a guy like Anthony Davis you could see the potential to fill out his frame because of his naturally broad shoulders. Is he gonna be able to mix it up in the paint, establish or hold his position at the next level with that build? If not, then he'll just be a finesse outside shooting big.
C'Mon guy I'm comparing Austin to Bosh and Aldridge at the same age I'm not comparing Austin to Bosh and Aldridge now as grown men....SHEEESH!
Chris Bosh was just flesh and bones at Georgia Tech weighing like 210 which is about 10 pounds lighter then Austin right now. Aldridge didn't weigh to much more either and stuggled greatly as a freshman at Texas because of a lack of bulk. But Bosh and Aldridge both had plenty of skill to make up for their lack of weight and it's exactly what Austin has. Also Bosh and Aldridge like Austin are labeled as PF/C not a combo forward.
Charlie V was and is always a combo forward. The last thing Charlie V struggled with at UConn was a lack of weight because he mainly played on the perimeter like he does in the NBA. Charlie V was always obcessed with his outside shot and never really banged in the post or had many go to post moves. He would more or less catch the ball of the elbow or arc and either take the shot or slash to the lane using his dribble, and the fact he was usually more nimble then most of the big men guarding him.
I remenber Charlie V ever since he was in the dunk contest as a McDonalds All American something I could never imagine Austin competing in.
You could compare Perry Jones or even Quincy Miller to Charlie V but not Austin. Austin is a long gangly post player who is going to rebound and block shots.
Spot on siggy. That's the main knock on him is that his thin shoulders won't let him add weight on his frame. His body type is a lot like Chris Johnson. Isaiah is a bad kind of unique, yes his skillset is amazing for a center but his thin frame and him not being an athletic freak really makes his impact at the next level murky
Chris Bosh had a legit post up game, an excellent rebounder while in college, while Austin is the complete opposite.
i got negged so much when last yea i said everbody was low on him as a one&done prospect..
now i might be negged once again by saying that but i don't see how Isaiah isn't top5 prospect and possible runner fo topo sport in this draft too..
he is like 7'1 with aound 7'5 ams, he gained mass up to 225 or something he has wide Anthony Davis type of body so i believe will get stronger to play C, but he has of the skills in the world of power forward, he is not good but he can become GREAT shooter assuming his size and his handles is pretty close to this too
Andrea Bargnani with shotblocking abillities. Has to be put next to a real C with 7 foot 260 pound size and rebounding abillities. Austin, Drummond and Monroe would be a deadly three big rotation with Austin coming off the bench in the future.
I actually like the Bargnani comparison. Seems about the most similar one I've seen. they are both decent end to end runners but neither are naturally quick or explosive. Neither player is known for their rebounding on a consistent basis, but Austin probably has better potential in that department simply due to age. Bargz is probably the better overall shooter/scorer, but isn't nearly the same shot blocker. Bargs was naturally better at gaining weight(while still not huge), where Isaiah probably will have to develop as he gets much older.I like Austin, and am looking forawrd to seeing how he develops offensively and if he continues to develop his ballhandling or not. But still have questions as to just how good he can be in the L.
You guys are comparing Austin to these perimeter based players and then fitting Austin's game into that profile while forgetting what he can actually do. Like now I'm reading that Austin can't rebound or block shots because he's being compared to guys like Charlie V and Bargs.
And no Chris Bosh didn't really have a great post game while in college and he still doesn't really. Bosh would catch the ball at the elbow and use his quickness to either take you off the dribble or just hit the mid range jumper which has always been his bread and butter.
If Chris Bosh had a post game then Lebron James would of never needed to develop one bottom line.
I expect Austin to play very similar to Bosh in that essence. He's certainly not going to come in the league and stand at the perimeter shooting 3's and every now and then take somebody off the dribble from the arc and get into the lane and dunk like Charlie V does.
I'm half surprised somebody hasn't tried comparing him to Austin Daye yet because if you're comparing him to Charlie V you might as well compare him to Austin Daye.
Charlie V doesn't have a long wingspan and was never a good rebounder or shot blocker. Austin has a massive wingspan and will be a solid rebounder and shot blocker.
If you guys think he's gonna turn out to be more Channing Frye in the league that's fine but then you're undervaluing his true scoring ability.
Bosh has the agility of a small forward which is what makes his face up game so deadly. Opposing defenders have to honor his first step, giving him the space to raise up over them.
Austin doesn't have that type of agility or explosiveness from a static position. His lack of agility could effect his ability to rebound as well. Combine his lack of agility with his poor frame and body strength, and you get a guy who can get pushed out of position without the agility to get back in position and maneuver around his opponent.
Austin is very skilled, but unfortunately for him he has a really bad frame for the NBA game without the athleticism to make up for it.
^^^ That scoring ability is there and I'm not underrating it, I simply question how effective/efficient it will be once he arrives in the L playing against guys his height, with much greater bulk and strength than Isaiah. His transition could be similar to Yi Jianlian. Simply not physical enough for the NBA. Heck at least Yi was a near elite level athlete and was nimble. Austin is somewhat clumsy guarding in the halfcourt.
You're right I agree with everything you said even the Yi comparison which is another great one.
The only real problem I've had with anything anybody said on this thread is comparing Austin to Charlie V because it's so far off. Like you said Austin is clumsy, he reminds me of McGee is this fashion of a tall 7 footer whose both massively long and skinny which results in the player looking gangley and clumsey. Charlie V was more compact and nimble and for all intent purposes plays absolutley nothing like Austin.
I still think at worse case scenario Austin turns out to be more Brandon Wright tho. Wright is another player whose long, thin, and athletic that never really developed into that Bosh type player who he was compared to. But Wright because of his length and athleticism is making a living by rebounding, blocking shots, and finish high percentage looks inside the paint. At the very least Austin could easily develop into that type of player.
I see Isaiah Austin as a Spence Hawes-type player. He has a high basketball IQ and a high skill level, but is limited by his lack of strength and athleticism. Hawes has improved his strength since he entered the NBA and Austin would help himself a lot by doing the same.
I think Austin could make it in the NBA, just like Hawes did, by developing into an efiicient offensive threat who can rebound and defend passably, but that is not a given due to his lack of ideal physical attributes for an NBA big man.