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  • #29569
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    montauriush4
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    They are my 3 favorite player in the draft and i hope they do good in the nba 

    How do you all think they will do in the nba.

    Iman Shumpet

    Best case:Tyreke Evans

    Worst case: Javaris Crittenton

    His best season 15ppg 6a 5reb 2s 1.5b

    Scotty Hopson

    Best case: Trevor Ariza

    Worst case: Chase Budinger

    His best season 18ppg 6reb 3a 1.3s

    Isaiah Thomas

    Best case: Ty Lawson

    Worst case: Nate Robinson

    His best season 16ppg 4a 2red 1s

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  • #537104
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    MagikKnick
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    I think you have high expectations from a group of second rounders.. I like all three of them aswell, but dont see any of them being more than decent role players..

     

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  • #537109
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    iguapops420
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     ^^^ Very much disagree.

    Iman Shumpert-Larry Hughes best case,Smush Parker/DeShawn Stevenson worst

    Scotty Hopson-JR Smith best case, Nick Young rookie year worst case

    Iasiah Thomas JR.-Nate Rob best case,Out of the league worst case

     

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  • #537108
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    I know for a fact those guys won’t put up those type of numbers. I think Shumpert’s best season will be something like 7.5ppg 3.5 rpg and 3apg. Thomas’s best season will be something like 7ppg and 4.5apg. Hopson though I could see putting up something like 12ppg, 5.5rpg and 2spg

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  • #537111
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    iguapops420
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     I could NEVER see Hopson putting up 5.5 rebounds per. He’s an absolutely horrid rebounder in college. What makes youn think he’d be any better in the pro’s. Do you realize how many sg’s actually average that many rebounds?

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  • #537113
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Oh crap. My apologies. For some reason I was thinking he put up 7 rebounds a game. I don’t know why though.

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  • #537114
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    iguapops420
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     It’s all good.In reality he really should be putting up better rebound numers. You’re probably thinking of Marshon who put up 7rbs. But apparently was only due to him playing extended minutes at the 4. Though I think his 7ft1 wingspan had a bit to do with that as well.

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  • #537115
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    4th dimension

    Scotty Hopson best/worst case senario

    The ceiling gap between Ariza and Budinger is so small, that Budinger may surpass Ariza someday.

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  • #537116
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    iguapops420
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     Budinger’s upside is much higher IMO. He’s got a smoother stroke, similar athleticism, and plays the game more efficiently. I thought that was an odd upside/downside comparison as well.

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  • #537117
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    paradigmn
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     ISAIAH THOMAS worse case scenario NATE ROBINSON???…LOL…if that were the case I think ISAIAH THOMAS would be a lock for the second round….unfortunetly he might not even be drafted!!!

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  • #537120
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Yeah, the only guards to average 5+ rpg this season

    • Dwyane Wade, 6.4 RPG
    • Andre Iguodala, 5.8 RPG
    • Kobe Bryant, 5.1 RPG

    And if you consider Dorell Wright a guard, 5.3 RPG..

    So 5.5 would be a huge stretch… especially because he’s Scottie Hopson.

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  • #537122
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    MagikKnick
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    Landry Fields?^

    Isaiah Thomas is really talented, he’d just need the change to play…and unfortunately, he probably wont get that chance..

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  • #537123
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    Stojakovicfor3
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    Maybe because Hopson averaged 17ppg or because he’s 6’7 is where I got the 7 from

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  • #537124
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    4th dimension

    Fields is a true SF that is forced to play SG because of Melo.

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  • #537130
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    MagikKnick
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     Still played SG the majority of the season, no reason to leave him off that list..

    And Hopson is almost TALKING his way out of being drafted…Alex Kennedy said alot of GMs are shying away from Hopson b/c hes doing ‘terrible’ in interviews…

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  • #537155
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    iguapops420
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     Even if you are counting Fields as a 2, that’s FOUR guards over 5. And hip Hops can’t get but 3 in college, in sincerely doubt he gets 5 in the NBA where the game is far more physical. Hopson has apparently been bad in interviews. Which going with his inconsistent play, pentiant for turnovers, poor strength, lack of development, and lack of leadership, will probably see him mid 2nd to quite possibly undrafted. Still has some potential but really needs to become a student of the game and show a consistent ANYTHING.

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  • #537160
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    Tongue-Out-Like-23
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    Yessir, I forgot Landry Fields.

    Regardless of what his true position is, he was playing shooting guard for the season. 

    My mistake.

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  • #537219
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    Tar86ek
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    i want to know if magicknick is ronny turiaf. Nba players should be certified by the website to comment. are there any other nba players who blog.

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  • #537220
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    TheLastWord
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    I find it sad Shumpert is such an athletic freak but has no basketball skills whatsoever.

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    • #537528
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      ball4life66
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      You obviously have never seen Shumpert play if you thnk he has no basketball skills.

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  • #537221
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    Tar86ek
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    i want to know if magicknick is ronny turiaf. Nba players should be certified by the website to comment. are there any other nba players who blog.

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  • #537222
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    butidonthavemoney

    Al-Farouq Aminu was here for a while. So was James Harden.

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  • #537223
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    knicksfan7
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    @NoMoney

    Don’t forget John Wall came on this site for a breif period of time, lol.

     

    Also, you did a mediocre job evaluating Jenkins. If you were still on facebook I would tell you.

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  • #537228
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    butidonthavemoney

    What’s wrong with my Jenkins evaluation?

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  • #537229
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    knicksfan7
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    You rated him too high defensively and too low in leadership and intangibles. Guy is one of the best leaders in the draft, and if you listened to any of his interviews you can tell he has very good intangibles with the mental makeup of a pro already. The team’s performance is a bad indicator of the player he is.

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  • #537232
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    butidonthavemoney

    I actually gave him a 7 for defense, an 8 for leadership and an 8 for intangibles.

    Aran made some slight adjustments.

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  • #537235
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    knicksfan7
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    Then I blame Aran. He is not nearly as talented as teh guys in this thread, but his mental makeup and intangibles is why he’ll likely have longer careers than all of these players. Everyone fails to realize that at the level of the NBA 95-97% of the game is mental, not physical.

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  • #537237
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    butidonthavemoney

    I’d draft Jenkins before Shumpert, Hopson or Thomas. You’re right in that he is a smart kid with a good work ethic. I mentioned in the evaluation that he could be a great drive and dish point guard or spot-up shooting guard coming off the bench. All he needs is to be drafted into the right situation.

    I probably wouldn’t touch any of them in the 1st round though.

    And watch what you say about Aran. He’ll make you disappear.

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  • #537241
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    knicksfan7
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    Chicago I could see taking Jenkins in Round 1. He fits there culture, and his passing abilities are very underrated, but he can play spot minutes at the point when Rose is on the bench. Chicago really needs is more guys that are capable of shooting the 3, and Deng to step up more as a scorer (meaning getting better at shooting the 3, which seeing him take a lot more this year he will get better at in time).

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