[blink3ebfanParticipant]

From ESPN.com via The Philly Post.

The Philadelphia 76ers have locked in on Evan Turner as the player they’ll take with the No. 2 pick in the draft. Most basketball observers think Turner and Andre Iguodala have a similar skill set, which has lead to speculation that Iguodala could be traded at some point.

“If you take Turner, you have to do something with Iguodala,” a Western Conference general manager tells The Philly Post. “Turner doesn’t have the athletic ability of Iguodala, but Iguodala doesn’t have the feel for the game Turner does.”

“There’s not enough floor space for the two of them,” another executive says. The selection of Turner “might lead them to commit to trading Iguodala.”

Iguodala still has four years and about $56.5 million remaining on his contract.

What need do you think the sixers should address by trading Iggy. Lets hear some trade scenarios.

[PurpleMonkeyDishwasherParticipant]

The most important need for 76ers to address is getting rid of his $56.5 mil. contract….. anything after that would be a bonus.

[MagikKnickParticipant]

I disagree, I think Turner & Iguodala can coexist

But if they do trade him, they need to address the need of a bigman, Speights, Hawes, and Brand isn’t gonna cut it. Also, If they are looking to trade him, they might try and package hi, with Brand for cap relief, but I dont think no team in the league will be willing to take on the salary between the two of them.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Iguadola for Camby and Fernandez….

Iguadola for Kaman and R.Butler…

Iguadola for Jr Smith and Birdman…(Would have been Nene…But I don’t know about the injury…)

Iguadola for Ty Chandler and Gerald Henderson…

Iguadola for Big Al( I do not want Big Al…)

Iguadola for Marc Gasol and Sam Young

Iguadola for Greg Oden and Martell Webster….I do think the Blazers would love Iggy and would give up Camby or Oden to get Roy his 2nd option ….

[morgatilParticipant]

“…but I dont think no team in the league will be willing to take on the salary between the two of them.”

Isiah could make this work. Damn him. Bring back Isiah as a GM.

HAHAHAAAHAH

[JNixonParticipant]

Philly may trade Iguodala, but I do think Turner and Iguodala can coexist. This is not a comparison on production or accolades, but if Michael Jordan and Scottie Pippen can work then Iguodala and Turner can too. I think both of them compliment each other just fine. But it may come down to numbers, and they may trade him.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

I favored a deal with The Blazers or Nuggets…Added The Clippers because of need and Kaman being on the block the last few years…The Bobcats would do the deal because it reunites Brown and Iggy…
The Grizzles would maybe do the deal because of Gay’s future being uncertain…plus they drafted Thabeet and can get Whiteside or Aldrich as a replacement…I don’t a PF oin Jefferson to play Center and I think The Blazers will give GregOdensKnees for a fringe all star in Iggy….But if they gave us Camby and Rudy Fern Rock….I’d be happy too…We need a shot blocker and shooter after we draft Turner….

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

Ya I think the sixers are really lacking interior defense now. With all the negatives that Sammy had, he defended the rim well and Hawes isn’t going to replace that. If the sixers could get Oden and a shooter I would really have to consider doing it. I don’t trust his knees and he probably will end up being a waste of such promise because of them, but when he is able to get on the court he is a beast defensively. Would the blazers be willing to admit their mistake drafting him No. 1?

[JNixonParticipant]

No they wouldn’t. They wouldn’t trade Oden and Fernandez for just Iguodala. That would be dumb..

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

Just thought about it though and I don’t think Iggy would be a good fit in Portland for the same reason that I don’t think he’d be a good fit with Turner. Roy is also a guard that likes the ball in his hands in a point forward sort of position. Thats the main reason that I think Iggy and Turner wouldn’t mix well. Neither are great shooters and are at their best when the ball is in their hands and they are able to create for themselves or others.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Rudy wants out and Greg has been injured his whole career…and he’s a restricted free agent and they signed Camby to an extension and that Rudy wants more minutes and etc…Etc…They’ve been trying to get an all star SF for 2 years…they’d trade Greg” will I ever stay Healthy” Oden and Rudy” I shoot like a machine 2.0″ Fernadez for the All around player Iguadola Is…He and Roy would be a good duo…Not saying he and Turner wont be…But Iggy’s the only piece that can be moved for those 2 BIG Weaknesses on the Team….There is no I in Team but there is in Iguadola…

[JNixonParticipant]

Iguodala and Roy can work lol, y’all are overthinking. The best attribute of Iguodala’s game is his versatility. He can fit in with just about any player in the NBA because even if he’s not scoring, he can pass, defend, and you can run your offense through him. He can play without the ball. In fact, he played without the ball when Andre Miller was on the team and he was never a ball-dominant player last season either.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Iggy is unselfish and that team has shooters already…Iggy is light years better than Batum right now and the Blazers want to win Now…Not in 3 years when Batum is a great player…I think they’d do a deal with the Sixers in a heartbeat….Camby and Rudy or Oden and Webster for Iggy…The Lesser Center gets the Sixers the better shooter…If they give us Camby, they have to give us Rudy,…If we get Oden we take Webster…Where not robbing Them…They actually resigned Camby with a deal like this in mind…

[FDAPO]

The best deal seems to be Iggy for Big Al….

[sixersman111Participant]

I don’t know if any know actually watch the sixers. Iggy is a very OVER priced player. He CANT create his own shoot. His jumpshoot is below average and takes a lot of bad shoots. He cost the sixers a lot of games last year. Iggy only gets traded for pick and a contract that expires. Your lucky if you get anything more.

[Brace94Participant]

put Turner at the point and Iggy at the 2, and maybe trade Holiday, i personally think Turner is a better point than Jrue.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

We need a Center and shooting Guard for Iggy not a PF…We have Brand,Speights, Thad, Nocioni and Hawes all can play the PF position…even Jason Smith can play the 4…we need a true Center…Big Al is like resigning Brand all over again…We’d have Brand,Jefferson, M16 and Hawes as the front line…Who defends the rim…???who hits the open 3 when Turner and Jrue break down the D and kick it out…

I watch a lot of games and have gone to every Sixers/Celtics game in the last 2 years( KG was my favorite player..would go see him when he was in Sota too…”AI and KG for the price of 1 ticket”

Now we don’t need a Power Forward we nee a Center and Shooter that can defend…Best deals are with the Blazers and Nuggets…

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

the NBA…Look at there games…Pippen was a better defender but they both are great passers and floor leaders…Turner may need a True Scorer too feed off of….I would love to take a risk on the JR and Birdman or Nene trade…I think JR could be that big time scorer in Philly next to the all around leader Turner…Picture this line up next year..

Starters

Jrue,JR,Turner, M16 and Hawes

Thad, Lou Will, Brand,Birdman and Nocioni as the Mob…
With a top 5 to 10 pick if we suck and Green and Kapono’s 10 million in expiring deals to get a defensive Center…

JR is young and can still be 25ppg scorer….

[JNixonParticipant]

Yeah I don’t get how you can question whether me or Scarecrow watch 76ers games….My name has Iguodala in it and Scarecrow is from Philadelphia I believe lol. And Iguodala can create his own shot. He plays on the wing and has been the leading scorer for Philly the past 4 years. You have to be able to create your own shot to do those things.

[PlatypusParticipant]

Josh Smith for Iggy

Holiday – Williams
Turner – Green / Meeks
Free Agent – Kapono
Smith – Brand
Speights – Hawes / Smith

Teague – Bibby
Crawford – Evans
Iggy – Williams
Horford – Joe Smith
ZaZa – Draft pick

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

But he’s a great 2nd option on a championship team…It’s weird but If he was with Wade or Kobe or to a leeser extent Roy…he’d be a top 20 player in the NBA….with success comes the respect…If Pippen was around he’d garner the same contract and if he was the #1 guy…everybody would say he’s over paided and a BUM…The fact is Iggy is like Pippen with no MJ…trying to be like Mike while waiting for Wade to beg the Heat to Trade for Him…Roy and Iggy, Kobe and Iggy or Wade and Iggy would allow the Iggy man to get the respect he deserves…J Nixon Iggy 9…I only posty Iggy Trade Threads because I feel people underrate him and see him as the only key to getting better….whether he’s with us or Not…

[sixersman111Participant]

Don’t compare pippen to Iggy. Pippen lead his team to the conference championship without jordan. People forget that. Pippen was 100 times better then iggy end of story

[FDAPO]

Maybe not the best deal for the 76ers, but I can see it happening….

If the TWolves could pull it off before the draft they could be good…

Flynn
Brewer
Iggy
Love
Cousins

And enough room for a big free agent and Ricky Rubio in the next 1-2 years.

Sixers

Holiday
Turner
Young
Brand
Jefferson

[JNixonParticipant]

Wise words Scarecrow, I must say. Wise words.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Trade Josh smith to the Clippers for the 8th overall pick in the draft…And find another taker for big Al…I want a TRUE Center(Camby, Oden, Kaman or Nene) and a True Scorer(JR Smith)
4 real , give me the Nuggets deal

Iguadola and Hawes for JR Smith and Nene…

[sixersman111Participant]

You can be a leading scorer on a team and not be able to create your own shoot. And being the leading scorer of the sixers isnt that big of accomplishment. Were do you ever see iggy create his own shoot? He scores most of his points of the fast break. I can see you 2 rarely watch sixers games. Sixers have a lot of holes. One jrue is never going to be top tier pg. Brand and iggy locked up for 3 + years. No center at all that defend the rim. No pf that can play download on the block demand a double team. No leader. Iggy is a 3 third player to a championship team. He gets payed 2nd player money. There really is not a high demand for him plus no one wants to trade a player of value for him b/c he isn’t a superstar or a co star. He is a above average role player

[sixersman111Participant]

You can be a leading scorer on a team and not be able to create your own shoot. And being the leading scorer of the sixers isnt that big of accomplishment. Were do you ever see iggy create his own shoot? He scores most of his points of the fast break. I can see you 2 rarely watch sixers games. Sixers have a lot of holes. One jrue is never going to be top tier pg. Brand and iggy locked up for 3 + years. No center at all that defend the rim. No pf that can play download on the block demand a double team. No leader. Iggy is a 3 third player to a championship team. He gets payed 2nd player money. There really is not a high demand for him plus no one wants to trade a player of value for him b/c he isn’t a superstar or a co star. He is a above average role player

[FDAPO]

Couldnt have said it any better myself Scarecrow….

But thats why I feel Jefferson and Iggy are so similar. Imagine Jefferson next to LeBron or Wade…. The overrated bum who everyone is trying to get out of Minnesota…He could win a ring in the right organization, you never know. Same with iggy…

This actually why it might be a bad trade…

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

He needs to go to The Spurs or Bucks for RJ or Redd’s massive contract…Duncan and Big Al or Bogut and Big Al…That’s the best case for Al…The wolves want him gone then get the Expiring cash from The Bucks or Spurs…RJ would actually fill the SF need for a year…

[delfamParticipant]

I’m from Philly and watch all their games and I don’t think Iggy and Turner can co-exist. Both are very versatile as they can rebound,defend, and are great passers, but neither can shoot the 3. The Sixers have been lacking a guy to stretch the D since Korver left and I think they need to fill that void, but Turner or Iguodala don’t do that.

[JNixonParticipant]

He wasn’t comparing their games sir, he was saying that if Pippen was a 1st option he would be looked at in the same light as Iguodala. A 1st option player on mediocre to below average teams, who would be a perfect 2nd option to a superstar, which would be best if you want to be a champion.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Period…Iggy would give it to Pippen if matched up 1 on 1….don’t get all misty eyed for the glory days…I love Pip but to say he’s a 100 times better than anyone named Andre Iguadola is a joke…Pippen is a hall of famer and gets big time props from Crow…But lets be real…Iggy get 20/5 and 5 nightly…if he wasn’t pegged as the # 1 guy in Philly he’d be contending in Miami w/ Wade and Co…Is the contract really that bad…put him next to a Scorer like Wade,Kobe,Roy,Evans and JR( Yeah I reached for a player that I think can be an elite scorer in the league) and watch him dominate…thats the same feeling I get for Turner…Not the #1 guy but one hell of a 2nd guy…Give me JR and Nene…maybe a pick cause JR is a head case and Nene was injured…

[JNixonParticipant]

I don’t get why Turner and Iguodala wouldn’t work. I’ve watch just about every single 76ers game as well, and 2 players that aren’t great 3-point shooters can work.

Andre Miller and Iguodala worked 2 years when both are below average to mediocre 3-point shooters. And Turner is going to be a better player than Miller was, possibly immediately I’d say. I think it can work just fine. Both of them are unselfish. They need to look to get quality bigs in the lineup before moving Iguodala IMO. That’s the problem.

[PlatypusParticipant]

Rush, Hibbert and Dunleavey for Iggy

Holiday – Williams
Turner – Green
Rush – Kapono / Dunleavey
Young – Brand
Hibbert – Speights

2nd round point – Price / Ford
Iggy – Jones
Granger – 2nd 2nd round pick
Murphy – Hansburough
Davis or Aldrich – Foster

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

I watched just about every sixers game last year and am from the Philly area and I gotta say you are underating Iggy a lot. As a first option I agree he is overrated and I do think he has a complex right now where he feels he is the man. But on this team he was. They didn’t have a good team so he had to force some bad shots occasionally. He is a good facilitator and is best suited to be the point-forward in a triangle offense ala Pippen or Odom. His game is similar to those two guys. Atlhough he isnt as tall, he is a freak athlete and long to make up for that fact. Pippen did lead an experienced team further than Iggy did but that doesn’t change the fact that he was better suited as a 2nd option does it? Pippen did this as a mature player, Iggy is still only 26.

I agree that Iguoadala is versitile and could fit in well with any team but I think his optimal situation would be to be on a team where he played a point forward type role. I think his best fits would be Minnesota, Memphis, NYK, NJ, or *gasp* the Lakers.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Of the team…Nothing pains me more…I’ve met Iggy in real life…he’s a humble guy and a favorite of mine since we took him out of Arizona…IMO he’s better than Gay, Joe Johnson, Josh Smith, and other small forwards in the NBA…I can’t name 5 better SF’s Iggy/…and I’ll try now…

1.LBJ
2.Melo
3.Durant
4.???
5.???

am i missing somebody…Smith…No….Gay…No…JJ…No…
Name me someone other than LBJ,Melo and KD better than Iggy…He’s a 20/5/5 guy…Smith,JJ and Gay do not bring what Iggy does in every department…I would love to keep Iggy and Trade Brand…To be honest we can’t trade Brand so Iggy has to be moved…but It can’t be a salary dump or lopsided deal…Give me JR,Nene and future 1st pick for Iggy and Hawes…The Nuggets will want a player like AI2 and big body like Hawes to join Melo and Mr.Big shot….If Melo does Bolt in free agency…Iggy is a plan B… I think JR is young and talented and if we took the chance and made him the starting SG next to Turner at Sf(where he can thrive in the Point Forward role) he can average 20 plus and be the nightly threat to go off and give you 50…They will be taking a huge risk but with no risk comes no reward…JR is still just 24 or 25 years old and always had what it takes to be an elite scorer…Karl never gave him a chance…and I believe Collins can afford to find the next great scorer…

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

Paul Pierce, Gerald Wallace (I think he is slightly better, just as versatile), and I think if you consider Josh Smith or Joe Johnson a SF I’d put them ahead, Johnson because of how dynamic a scorer he is and Smith because he can change a game on the defensive end (Iggy can shut people down, but he doesn’t necessarily change the flow of the game)

[JNixonParticipant]

I’d say Durant, Pierce, Carmelo, Lebron, and Iguodala and Gerald Wallace is a tie IMO. Iguodala is a top 5-7 SF in the NBA depending on who you ask. Rudy Gay is also right there with them too, but only because he’s a great scorer.

[the microwaveParticipant]

iggy / turner / thad will not work..AND I DO WATCH EVERY SINGLE SIXERS GAME… i dont miss a gm, even if im recording it and replaying it.. how can that work? turner, iggy – cant shoot 3’s.. Thad couldnt last yr, but has shown flashes that part of his game can grow.. im sure im the one of the biggest sixers fans in here, and when u watch all 82 gms, and your tm wins 20 something I show i am truly a fan…

i think turner might be the safe pick, but if im philly i truly explore moving down and considering wesley johnson.. IM not saying he is / or will be better than turner but FACTS R FACTS.. he fits the tm better than Turner would… Hes more atlhetic than Turner, and a waaaaaaaaay better shooter. Ill be happy with Turner as well, but if we draft him or any other wing player (EXPECT A MOVE). Every philly Insider i belong too says the same..

if i do explore moving down and scooping up Wesley, IM NOT MOVING IGGY…. im moving thad… if i take Turner, im moving iggy… Iggy can play the 2, thad can not..

at 2/3 i love idea of either combo

turner / thad or Iggy / Johnson.. If we go Johnson route, a trade will be involved and we will get more… How much more? TBD….

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

wow…Not me…that’s where we differ…Paul pierce is getting old and fat…and Josh Smith just put it all together…if taking bad 3’s and disappearing in the playoffs is putting it all together

[OhCanada-Participant]

TORONTO RECIEVES
Iggy, Kapono,Speights,Meeks,Brand,Thomas

PHILLY RECIEVES
Bosh,Turkoglu,Calderon,Wright,Diop

CHARLOTTE RECIEVES
Holiday,Evans,Belinelli,Green

TORONTO
PG-Jack,Bradley,Banks
SG-Derozan,Weems,Meeks
SF- Igoudala,Kapono
PF-Bargnani,Thomas,Brand
C-Speights,Johnson

PHILLY
PG-Williams,Calderon
SG-Turner,Kapono
SF-Turkoglu,Young,Wright
PF-Bosh,Smith
C-Hawes,Diop,Alabi(BOUGHT LATE 1ST ROUNDER)

[JNixonParticipant]

Iguodala, Turner, and Thaddeus Young wouldn’t work. I agree. I wouldn’t mind at all if Thaddeus Young was dealt. He’s the easiest guy to replace, and he’s the worst player out of all 3.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

It’s Turner or Bust…and we will trade Iggy or Thad to get the defensive presence and scorer to compliment Turner too…I hate the sound of Iggy anywhere…but it has to happen

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

If we’re talking about better player right now, ya i would take Pierce over Iggy. Wallace is a much better rebounder but Iggy is a more controlled offensive player, I’d give the slight advantage there to Wallace, its really close but I give him the slight edge. Josh Smith took a lot less bad shots this year and what he does on the defensive end changes games. I agree iggy is a top 5-7 SF in the league though.

[JNixonParticipant]

Josh Smith is a PF though. That’s why he didn’t get mention. Marvin Williams was the Hawks SF all year. The reason Smith played better this past season was because he saw VERY few minutes at SF as opposed to past seasons, which made use of the fact that he’s better the closer he is to the rim.

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

Ya you’re right thats why I wanted to clarify when I asked if Scarecrow was considering Smith and Johnson SF because they played PF and SG respectively and those are the best positions for them.

[darkisrising19Participant]

I love how people are comparing Iggy to Pippen when Iggy can’t defend.

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

????? Iggy is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

[blink3ebfanParticipant]

????? Iggy is one of the best perimeter defenders in the league.

[JNixonParticipant]

He was arguably THE best perimeter defender that year they played Detroit in the playoffs. Well, at least IMO.

[the microwaveParticipant]

how can u call thad worse than turner who has yet to suit up??? thads still super young and turner hasnt played yet.. looks at #2 pick history. u know im a philly fan, but lets see him play against grown men b4 we get all giddy.. with that said iggyfan – i hope u r right 🙂

[JNixonParticipant]

Yeah you’re right, but I think he’ll prove to be better next season. His game should translate very seamlessly to the NBA and I think he’ll immediately be put in the situation to be the 1st or 2nd option on offense.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/67331/20100621/executive_says_76ers_have_to_trade_iguodala_if_they_draft_turner/

Just a Link here.

[Colaa34Participant]

I was thinking up a trade since everyone else was, tell me how you guys feel about it.

I know the 76ers want/need a perimeter shooter to go with all the slashers on that team. Boston can do a sign and trade with Ray Allen and give up Daniels for Iggy

Ray Allen will be signed for a short term deal, one or two years, giving the 76ers cap room, plus giving the 6ers the 3 point shooter they need.

Iggy can increase the Celtics window and give Rondo a running mate for the fast break.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

we dont want a old man…even if he is a great shooter

[JNixonParticipant]

You might be on to something with that trade Colaa34…That would be a good trade. But I have to wonder if Philly would trade in the division.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

too old no upside….

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Steffanski’s not a complete jackass….

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Iggy for the 10th pick?

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