if you're Minnesota...
who do you take with the 5 pick if they both available: James Harden or Jordan Hill?
in which direction you go - small or big?
id say its probably safer to go with a small because you usually no they will be decent, not many busts on guards... but with bigs, you will never no if their game will translate to the nba game, many busts on big men in the league.... minnesota has a bigger hole at center than at guard, but it would be safer to draft a guard and solve the big man problem with another pick or free agency and get a guy who already has game than guessing on one that might
I think Harden is the safer bet at this stage and could be a good complementary player to Al Jefferson down the road. Plus they already have Al Jefferson and Kevin Love down low in the PF position.
This is an interesting question because it wouldn't hurt to have both, but if I had to choose I would probably say a guard. I feel that it depends where they draft because if some how they can land Thabeet, and move Al Jefferson to power forward that would be a sweet combo. Kevin Love could come off the bench and provide depth. A point guard could be the best way to go and if Brandon Jennings is there they should take him. That would allow Foye to play the 2, and have Corey Brewer start at the 3. I will be on this teams bandwagon in a few years.
They need to let Telfair develop. He's gonna be a good player. Harden can come off the bench for Telfair and move Foye to the point.
Hill is gonna be a good no doubt, but the Wolves need a center not another power forward. Take Harden and you have a guy who you can rely on to be your leading scorer day in and day out.
IF they got the 3rd pick and could get Thabeet. With 3 picks in the first round if they could get Thabeet he would be the perfect pick. Thabeet. Teague in the mid first and then hope a guy like terrence williams or sam young drops to them at 28. then they'd have a dominant center, pf, williams or young would become an effective SF, Foye is decent and Teague would be great at guard.
Harden is unselfish enough that Randy Foye can play a scoring point. Telfair is pretty good as a backup and this would open Miller trades since I believe he is not doing well in Minnesota. They could also play Miller at the 3 spot but they have a surplus there and they need a defensive minded big man.
I'm a Wolves fan and even though Thabeet would bring some much needed shotblocking, I don't like his softness on the offensive end. He has difficulty finishing after contact against college players. Imagine what it'll be like for him in the NBA. Jordan Hill has talent, but has limited shooting range and, like someone else said, we don't need another power forward.
I like Harden. He is a guy who you can put into just about any situation that a SG should be put in and feel good about it. He may not be Kobe off the dribble or an outstanding leaper, but he is adequate or better in every phase of the game.
I also like Tyreke Evans. If he works on his shot, he will be a terror on the offensive side of the ball.
The Timberwolves have two backups starting in the backcourt right now in Telfair and Foye. Telfair would be a good backup point guard and Foye would be a great sixth man, so either Harden or Jennings will be a upgrade for the Timberwolves.
But, my wish is to land Ricky Rubio. When the lottery is over and we still have the number 5 pick I hope with our 3 draft picks and some expiring contracts will do the job to trade up to get Rubio.
Foye a bench player lol. Wow I can't say that is the wildest thing on this site i have seen but how do you come about with that. Foye was putting up decent number this year and considering only he and Al Jefferson wanted to carry the offensive load, I have no idea where that came from. I have seen Foye play a few times and I feel like his skills could be comparable to Roy when his team gets some stability. Foye and Wade are about the same height so how can someone call him undersize and not Wade. I will admit that Wade is explosive and very quick but Foye is not as explosive but he is decent in that area and he is athletic. I am actually loving the Harden pick unless the move up and take Rubio. It would be weird if they win the number one pick because I am like this who would they trade. Do they trade Love and keep Griffin or Trade Griffin and keep Love. Interested decision.
I wish we were all the Timberwolves "braintrust", we all seem to be pretty close to being on the same page. Avoid Thabeet, his potential is not as high as it would seem, and trade for Rubio, as long as it's not going to give our team a step back. I'm not sure if that's possible with Rubio, even if we had to give up Miller, our early first, and our middle first. If the team that drafts him won't trade him, take Harden. Unfortunately, I'm afraid our beloved Timberwolves' management doesn't think as logically as we do. Option 1: Draft or Trade for Rubio, Option 2: Take Harden, Option 3: Decide who's better for the team: Jennings, Tyreke, Derozan, or Clark.
Why is nobody considering Curry? All the best teams have a guard who can get off a high percentage shot whenever they want. Harden couldn't even do that in college; If Rubio even becomes Kidd I don't know how that would be good enough; Evans is a reach because who knows if he can correct his horrible shooting mechanics; Derozan looks like his jumper should get better, but why risk it? Curry can run the point guard position from day one. He can run the pick n roll and he can be the shot creator when the shot clock is running down. And let's be honest with ourselves, Foye will never be as good as Roy. I like Foye, but he just has a long ways to go before he would be a great shot creator. Foye plays well off the ball. Also, the only Miller trade I can come up with is him to the Clippers straight up for Camby. We could use Camby like the Spurs used Horry by resting him pretty much the whole year and using him against tough matchups in the playoffs. For instance, if we can somehow get the 8th seed next year he would be nice to have versus Bynum and Gasol. With the later picks I'd also make sure to grab either Ellington, Teague, Mills or Marcus Thornton as the future 6th men scorers and Young, Patterson, Hansbrough, Gibson, Blair, James, T. Williams as future bench forwards. Also, I've never seen Rubio play, so I'm not saying it wouldn't be wise to trade up for him if he looks like he'll be a good scorer as well. I've never seen Jennings play outside of the McDonald's game either and I probably would lean towards taking him if I've seen him more. I like Curry more than Evans, Harden and DeRozan though and no way would I take Thabeet or Hill.
I'd say if Ricky Rubio is the next Jason Kidd, that would be good enough. How could anyone ever say that wouldn't be good enough? If you truly believe that, you are expecting way too much out of the T-Wolves pick in this draft.
I'd say it's a pretty longshot that Steph Curry is a more effective NBA player than Randy Foye.
Harden, Jennings or Rubio all have the potential to be great fits with this team.
Actually I understand his point and it is actually valid. If Rubio is the next Jason Kidd, that still would not help their weak perimeter scoring to help out Jefferson. Curry would be a pretty good pick up but I like Harden more in this situation because he is more solid. Curry has red flags but I do like him as a player and I believe he could possibly move up to the top 5 after workouts. He actual looks like he can gain weight and also he looks young but he is not as boney as people make it out to be. He is about iverson size and probably will put on more weight between now and the draft. Also it said he could still be growing and he is around 6'2" now. he is fairly quick. He can also get his shot off and is clutch. All these thing could help Minnesota and considering both he and Randy Foye would be Combo guards the only problem would be who would guard what position but I believe it will be Foye at the two and Curry at the one. I still like Harden as a safe pick and Curry as spectacular one that is risky.
at 6'1", he won't be able to get his shot off against NBA defenders like he could in college. I see him as a good scoring-spark-off-the-bench-type in the NBA. If anyone takes him in the lottery they will be disappointed Adam Morrison-style. He will probably will have a long career, as he seems to love the game. I just see him spending the majority of that career as a backup.
I like Rubio. Ideally, he would have more athleticism, something the Wolves desperately need. But he would give this team an unquestioned floor leader and someone who can set others up, which the Wolves desperately need also.
I still like Tyreke Evans. Since Randy Foye likes to play off the ball and Evans is more effective with the ball, they could mesh surprisingly well. On defense, Foye would guard the point and Evans the 2.
I guess I was just trying to say that I would strongly be considering Curry. The argument that Curry isn't tall and/or quick enough to get his shot off is very legit; I just think that his ball handling and craft will be more than enough to make sure he doesn't turn out like Morrison and Redick(don't give up on him either). Some of you must've seen quite a bit of Sam Cassell play for the Wolves, and to me Curry would be a better version of the older Cassell that played for the Wolves. I understand that Rubio could easily turn out to be the player that is the best, but the Wolves need more than just a PG who can run the break and set up the offense. Rubio needs to prove that he's quick enough and good enough of a shooter before he can convince me he's better and worth trading up for. If the Wolves had a couple great scorers like Pierce and Allen in the back court for Rubio to pass to I would go for it; they don't though, and I value top notch scorers over players like Jason Kidd. I could see them going a dozen different ways with their 5th and 18th picks though. There are so many potentially good PG's and SG's. People don't even talk about Marcus Thornton and that's crazy.
I honestly don't get why people don't like Curry. He is weaker version of Ben Gordon who is a Stud of offense and this kid can actually run the point some. How does that equate to Morrison. Also people need to look at the situation Redick is in first before they make a call on that. Hopefully with Lee playing well they trade Redick and he goes to a team that can really use him.
Stephon is more smooth than quick, kinda like his father. There will be times in the NBA where he will be guarded by point guards who are stronger, quicker and taller. If you keep a hand in his face at all times, he will struggle. If he plays on a talented team where his man frequently leaves him to double someone else, he could be deadly. But I don't think he's talented or big enough to be a force on his own.