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  • #45166
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    So raspy
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    I think people aren’t putting mcw higher on draft boards because of the competition cuse plays early in the year, and rightly so. You would assume he’ll come down to earth once big east play starts and he starts playing good defenses, but what if he keeps it up? Could he be a top 5 pick? Too good to be true scenario?

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  • #733837
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    Maybe but his age(21 for a sophomore) and his wiry frame will have teams second guessing

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  • #733877
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    wrector
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    Dion Waiters did it last year, jumped from a low first-rounder to a lottery pick. I think he’s the real deal. Although their schedule isn’t very tough, he hasn’t wavered from his outstanding performances.

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  • #733969
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    Why are people concern with age when it comes to College/NBA basketball. Who cares if he’s a 21 year sophomore. Give the guy credit, he put the work in the off season and the results shows in his stats. MCW stats are very impressive 10 apg no matter the competition level, last time I check he’s playing against D1 level teams. They might not be Big East (at the moment), Big 10, Big 12 or ACC teams but they are D1 teams.

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    • #734057
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      As far as the age goes, you can look at former Cuse foward Wesley Johnson. He was basically 23 when he was drafted. Too old to be picked that high, his ceiling is not that high. He is basically who he is already, doubt he will get much better. And with the stats….Ed Cota assist stats were great……didn’t get him anywhere. You say the work reflects on his stats……he has only shot over %50 once, against weak competition and he doesn’t really shoot much. Doesn’t shoot the ball well at all……I do like his steal rate though……

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  • #734051
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    His jumper is broke….he can’t shoot. Have to see him in big east play to see if he can get to the rack night in and night out with that busted J……but he is ok I guess…..outside of the stats, IMO he didn’t pass the eye test against U of D…….I like the poise to hit his throws.

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    • #734096
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      His shot isn’t broken at all. He has nice form. The only problem is that he doesn’t get as much arc on it as he used to, but that has improved big time from the start of the season to where it is now. If anything, the issue with him is if he can learn to reign it in sometimes and make the right play instead of always going for the highlight. For example, last night, he has a beautiful pass to one of the big men for a dunk, but he threaded the needle when he could have kicked it out to an unguarded CJ Fair for a mid range jumper or a 3 pointer.

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      • #734100
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        You say its not like it used to be……so that kinda means its broke. Those super short JUMP shots against U of D were broke……that %40 from the field is broke…..%23 from 3 on almost four a game is broke…..if I’m wrong let me know.

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        • #734105
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          machu46
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          You’re wrong. Just because the shots didn’t go in doesn’t mean his shot is broke. Maybe you’re confusing a slump for a broken jumpshot, but the form on his shot is still good.

          An example of a broken jumpshot would be like Dion Waiters last year.

          MCW was a great shooter in high school, shot the ball well as a freshman in limited time, and is starting to shoot the ball pretty well again. He’s now shooting 37% from 3 point range over the last 4 games on 19 attempts.

          I’m not worried about his jumpshot at all. I’m more worried about the fact that he’s the only guy on this team that can really handle the ball and create for teammates.

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          • #734118
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            You are talking about over 2 years ago in high school…..he was a GREAT shooter…? He played like 5-6 mins a game last year in big east play……that’s not enough to critique his jumper cause he wasn’t even on the floor shooting enough shots. I am going off what I see and his numbers, not the past. You don’t go from being A GREAT shooter to being a borderline bad shooter. I’m not saying dude is weak, just don’t think he can shoot. If he ends the season, after big east play shooting %37 from 3 then you will be validated. But up until this point I haven’t seen anything from him at Syracuse that suggest that he is this GREAT shooter you say and that this is a slump. So why doesn’t he have this arc on his shot you say he had before? If he had a good arc on his shot then…..why doesn’t he now??? Cause like I said his jumper is broke……

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            • #734151
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              He’s hit 7 of his last 19 from 3. That’s pretty solid. Not great, but certainly enough that teams have to respect his jumpshot. That’s all he needs to do to be a great point guard. And his arc has been much better since that slow start. I would assume that the coach’s pointed it out to him and he’s focused on it more. Just like how Joseph and Southerland’s arcs changed on their shots from their junior to senior seasons. It’s normal for guys to change the arc on their shot as they work with the coaches more.

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  • #734073
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    I think if he keeps it up he could go late lottery.He hasn’t proven to me he is top 5 worthy though. And i dont’ see the big deal about his age. Do people forget O.J Mayo was a 20 year old freshman? He would have been a 21 year old sophmore as well had he stayed. He was drafted 3rd. I think a team in need of a point guard in the lottery would take a chance at him. He is 6’5/6’6 and can play the point. He might have a chance to be what Shaun Livingston didn’t live up to.

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    • #734106
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      If he keeps it up, he’ll probably be a top 5 pick. If he cools off a bit (which is to be expected), then he’ll probably end up being in the 8-14 range.

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