[theprophetParticipant]

if we were rewinding time and doing this immediately after the draft, i would say oden hands down. if we are talking right now, i hate to say it but howard. oden doesn’t have enough real nba experience and bynum is a bigger knuckle head than howard.

[theprophetParticipant]

if we were rewinding time and doing this immediately after the draft, i would say oden hands down. if we are talking right now, i hate to say it but howard. oden doesn’t have enough real nba experience and bynum is a bigger knuckle head than howard.

[moximusParticipant]

If there is a pill that these guys can take to be instantly healthy, with this assumption –

Which of the three: Dwight Howard, Greg Oden, Andre Bynum, in your opinion has the highest absolute ceiling? I mean going down as one of the top 10 centers of all-time

[HaleParticipant]

Dwight Howard is the only one to prove he can be elite for an extended period of time. His 2011 season was seriously phenomenal and as much as I hate to say it he probably deserved the MVP over Rose that year. Not to mention he is easily the most athletic of the three.

However, Oden was far and away the best PROSPECT. He was easily the most skilled, was just flat-out bigger and stronger than Howard and was a better two way player than Bynum. He was just a rare package of size, athleticism and skill (could make free throws too).

So if you put all three in a draft and knew they would be healthy their entire career and knew nothing else Oden would go first. If you knew exactly how there careers panned out to this point it’d be hard to pass up Howard because you never know if Oden would reach the level of dominance Howard has achieved.

[HaleParticipant]

Dwight Howard is the only one to prove he can be elite for an extended period of time. His 2011 season was seriously phenomenal and as much as I hate to say it he probably deserved the MVP over Rose that year. Not to mention he is easily the most athletic of the three.

However, Oden was far and away the best PROSPECT. He was easily the most skilled, was just flat-out bigger and stronger than Howard and was a better two way player than Bynum. He was just a rare package of size, athleticism and skill (could make free throws too).

So if you put all three in a draft and knew they would be healthy their entire career and knew nothing else Oden would go first. If you knew exactly how there careers panned out to this point it’d be hard to pass up Howard because you never know if Oden would reach the level of dominance Howard has achieved.

[GottaBeTheShoesParticipant]

I think Oden was pretty much a 10 and 10 guy already his rookie season (probably even better than that), if I’m assuming he hasn’t improved since then because of the injuries then I’d rather have Howard or Bynum (I’ll get to that in a bit).

But if Oden has panned out to what everyone thought despite his previous injuries (unlikely) and while being fully 100% healthy now (forever), then as long as this is free agency and they’ve all expressed that they want to join my team, then I’d take Oden most likely (he’s got a better head than the others by far).

If I’m drafting from the beginning, I’d obviously not want to wait 5 years for a fully healthy Oden or have to deal with Bynum’s injury problems even if they were better than Howard at this point.

I honestly might take a fully healthy Bynum over Howard based on what Howard did last year and what Bynum did in 2011-12 but that would be a risk simply because I’m not sure what Bynum really is at playing 100% through multiple seasons. And I am slightly of the belief that Howard’s stats may have been inflated in Orlando or that Bynum’s stats were a bit weakened being in LA (When you think about it and measure both of their stats in LA, they’re pretty similar and Bynum actually had a better PER and is a better FT shooter.)

In the end, Drafting from the beginning or if Howard’s last season was a fluke, it’s BY FAR Howard, he was actually just as vital to his team as LBJ was to the Cavs back in the day (Both players teams were the worst team in the league after losing them I believe).. I’d love to see that Howard back in action on the Rockets and my actual decision, all things considered, for the question would be Howard undoubtedly.

[GottaBeTheShoesParticipant]

I think Oden was pretty much a 10 and 10 guy already his rookie season (probably even better than that), if I’m assuming he hasn’t improved since then because of the injuries then I’d rather have Howard or Bynum (I’ll get to that in a bit).

But if Oden has panned out to what everyone thought despite his previous injuries (unlikely) and while being fully 100% healthy now (forever), then as long as this is free agency and they’ve all expressed that they want to join my team, then I’d take Oden most likely (he’s got a better head than the others by far).

If I’m drafting from the beginning, I’d obviously not want to wait 5 years for a fully healthy Oden or have to deal with Bynum’s injury problems even if they were better than Howard at this point.

I honestly might take a fully healthy Bynum over Howard based on what Howard did last year and what Bynum did in 2011-12 but that would be a risk simply because I’m not sure what Bynum really is at playing 100% through multiple seasons. And I am slightly of the belief that Howard’s stats may have been inflated in Orlando or that Bynum’s stats were a bit weakened being in LA (When you think about it and measure both of their stats in LA, they’re pretty similar and Bynum actually had a better PER and is a better FT shooter.)

In the end, Drafting from the beginning or if Howard’s last season was a fluke, it’s BY FAR Howard, he was actually just as vital to his team as LBJ was to the Cavs back in the day (Both players teams were the worst team in the league after losing them I believe).. I’d love to see that Howard back in action on the Rockets and my actual decision, all things considered, for the question would be Howard undoubtedly.

[Sharp ShooterParticipant]

Oden (even before his injury) was foul prone, and needed to improve on his stamina, Bynum needed to work on his stamina as well….but even when he was drafted, you can tell he lacked desire (which is evident now), Dwight needs to work on his post game and stop relying so much on his strength. All in all, I would’ve went with Howard…due to the fact that shown the willingness to improve(something you can’t teach)…and doesn’t have terrible knees (but has back problems in recent years)

[Sharp ShooterParticipant]

Oden (even before his injury) was foul prone, and needed to improve on his stamina, Bynum needed to work on his stamina as well….but even when he was drafted, you can tell he lacked desire (which is evident now), Dwight needs to work on his post game and stop relying so much on his strength. All in all, I would’ve went with Howard…due to the fact that shown the willingness to improve(something you can’t teach)…and doesn’t have terrible knees (but has back problems in recent years)

[TRC1991Participant]

D12, He was the best defensive player of the 3, and he still has some sort of offensive game

[TRC1991Participant]

D12, He was the best defensive player of the 3, and he still has some sort of offensive game

[WITNESS2014Participant]

That is a great question. I would take Oden. He was a better prospect than either of the other too. His one year at Ohio State was impressive and even though they got beat he outplayed Hortford and Noah, who were both older, and have been pretty good in the NBA. This is sad just thinking of what could of been though…

[WITNESS2014Participant]

That is a great question. I would take Oden. He was a better prospect than either of the other too. His one year at Ohio State was impressive and even though they got beat he outplayed Hortford and Noah, who were both older, and have been pretty good in the NBA. This is sad just thinking of what could of been though…

[LA12Participant]

I’d take Oden in a heartbeat. You guys are saying Howard because he proved more, but Oden never got the chance to prove himself because he was injured. He showed really efficient play in the limited time he spent on the court (besides his foul numbers) and showed he could have been a real force had he never gotten injured.

A healty Oden would’ve had a great rookie season, and I think could legitimately be a top three player in the league, maybe even a top two. It’s easy to forget just how great he was because we haven’t seen him play in years. I think by his fifth season, he could have been averaging numbers like 23/13/4 and he was a good free throw shooter for a big. He shot a similar percentage with his left hand in college as Dwight does with his right hand to this day.

I think Oden would have easily been the top center in the league had he stayed healthy. You rarely ever see the combination of athleticism, strength, size (he was a legit seven footer, compared to Dwight who is barely 6’10”) and skill. He didn’t just shot blocks or rebound because he was a freak athlete and had the body of the prototypical center, he had great timing to go a long with his scary physical attributes. I even think if Oden was healthy and stayed out of foul trouble, the Blazers could’ve legitimately won at least one title, even without Roy. I think a frontcourt of Aldridge and Oden would be SCARY good and by far the best in the league. An even bolder claim, I think if Oden reached his full potential he would have a shot at being a top fifteen center all time, with a title and maybe an MVP to his name.

But then again I am just a distraught Blazers fan who mourns the death of Oden’s knees to this day…

[theprophetParticipant]

full potential that might be his ceiling, but we will sadly never know. i admit, i never visioned this guy as an mvp candidate. but i thought he would be a great player that would win a title or 2 and a few defensive poy awards. it will always be one of those “what ifs” no matter how well he does from here going forward.

[theprophetParticipant]

full potential that might be his ceiling, but we will sadly never know. i admit, i never visioned this guy as an mvp candidate. but i thought he would be a great player that would win a title or 2 and a few defensive poy awards. it will always be one of those “what ifs” no matter how well he does from here going forward.

[LA12Participant]

I’d take Oden in a heartbeat. You guys are saying Howard because he proved more, but Oden never got the chance to prove himself because he was injured. He showed really efficient play in the limited time he spent on the court (besides his foul numbers) and showed he could have been a real force had he never gotten injured.

A healty Oden would’ve had a great rookie season, and I think could legitimately be a top three player in the league, maybe even a top two. It’s easy to forget just how great he was because we haven’t seen him play in years. I think by his fifth season, he could have been averaging numbers like 23/13/4 and he was a good free throw shooter for a big. He shot a similar percentage with his left hand in college as Dwight does with his right hand to this day.

I think Oden would have easily been the top center in the league had he stayed healthy. You rarely ever see the combination of athleticism, strength, size (he was a legit seven footer, compared to Dwight who is barely 6’10”) and skill. He didn’t just shot blocks or rebound because he was a freak athlete and had the body of the prototypical center, he had great timing to go a long with his scary physical attributes. I even think if Oden was healthy and stayed out of foul trouble, the Blazers could’ve legitimately won at least one title, even without Roy. I think a frontcourt of Aldridge and Oden would be SCARY good and by far the best in the league. An even bolder claim, I think if Oden reached his full potential he would have a shot at being a top fifteen center all time, with a title and maybe an MVP to his name.

But then again I am just a distraught Blazers fan who mourns the death of Oden’s knees to this day…

[jgkelly92Participant]

 Dwight Howard kills both of these guys in athleticism, I won’t even try to deny that for one second.

 

But Andrew Bynum and Greg Oden are much more talented basketball players, hands down. I would have to say overall I think Greg Oden had the higher ceiling of him and Bynum but even that’s hard to say, I think Bynum would have been the best offensive player, not by much though, of the 2 but Greg Oden’s defense and attitude make him better all around,

 

 

[jgkelly92Participant]

 Dwight Howard kills both of these guys in athleticism, I won’t even try to deny that for one second.

 

But Andrew Bynum and Greg Oden are much more talented basketball players, hands down. I would have to say overall I think Greg Oden had the higher ceiling of him and Bynum but even that’s hard to say, I think Bynum would have been the best offensive player, not by much though, of the 2 but Greg Oden’s defense and attitude make him better all around,

 

 

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 by far,because he’s mix of both.

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 by far,because he’s mix of both.

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