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- Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 1:27pm #68946
OhCanada-ParticipantWhat I dont understand is how are they trading their 2019 pick if they traded their 2018 pick. Isnt the Stepien rule still in effect for the current CBA. It would have to be rights to swap picks which would have almost no value or a pick in a different draft.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 2:02pm #1122685
Andv1 WaitingParticipantI could be wrong but…
The only 2 loopholes I can think of is this:
As long as they have a 2nd rounder next year then it could be fine. Meaning you still have a draft pick in the draft then you can trade one of the two picks.
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They used their 2017 pick and didn’t have their 2018 pick due to Demar C trade. This trade may have been made before current CBA meaning they were eligible to make this trade.
0- Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 2:06pm #1122686
OhCanada-ParticipantOkay that makes sense. Except I think the new CBA was 2017.
2017-OG Anunoby
2018-Demarre Carroll trade
New CBA
2019-Kawhi Leonard trade
2020-Cant trade
Thanks for clearing that up if your right.
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- Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 2:08pm #1122687
HitsterParticipantThey couldn’t have traded it prior to this year’s draft but now that is spent they start from scratch again. Or you cannot trade two future successive years. So the next one they could do would be 2021, they couldn’t pre-trade 2020 now but if they drafted in 2020 they could then trade it I think.
It is confusing but that is how I understand it.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 2:26pm #1122691
publius2481ParticipantThe Stepien rule only counts going forward. It does not consider what a team did in drafts that already occurred. Once the 2018 draft ended, TOR was no longer affected by it.
0- Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 2:38pm #1122692
OhCanada-ParticipantBut its the 2018 draft the initiated the Stepien rule. Since they traded the 2018 pick they have to keep the 2019 pick.
0- Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 3:00pm #1122694
BeardedDragon84ParticipantNo I think publius is right, as soon as the draft starts its reset, what happened in the past doesn’t matter anymore. Example: they dont have a 2019 draft pick anymore, so they have to keep their 2020 pick. Earliest pick they can trade is 2021. But if they dont trade their 2021 pick, once the 2019 draft starts they can then trade their 2020 pick. As soon as commissioner Silver opens the draft I believe. Thats what they did here. You cant have two consecutive future picks traded away, but as soon as one draft occurs you can trade away the next one, and you are free to keep doing that year after year and never actually making a pick.
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- Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 3:01pm #1122695
EndlessknightParticipant“7.03. First Round Draft Choice. No Member may sell its rights to select a player in the first round of any NBA Draft for cash or its equivalent, or trade or exchange its right to select a player in the first round of any NBA Draft if the result of such trade or exchange may be to leave the Member without first-round picks in any two (2) consecutive future NBA Drafts.”
As publius2481 said, the rule is forward looking only. Once the league new year started 2018 draft stopped couting.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 3:37pm #1122699
OhCanada-ParticipantAlright got it now. Thanks.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 07/19/2018 - 5:45pm #1122705
Reptilian MonkParticipantyes i read it was a 2021 or 2022 protected first
0- Posted on: Fri, 07/20/2018 - 3:03am #1122720
SwatLakeCityParticipantI think that was the Melo trade, the one Atlanta gave to OKC for waiving Melo.
In the Kawhi trade, Toronto did trade a 2019 pick, but it was made after the 2018 draft had already occurred so the Stepian rule didn’t come into play.
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