[ghrghrParticipant]

After the draft, the Rockets have 3 young PFs + Marcus Morris + their starter Luis Scola. What you guys think they are doing? Are they going to start one of them as an undersized center? Are they going to trade someone and who should they target?

Their roster right now has Hasheem Thabeet as their only true C, so they could trade for an upgrade there.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Their also stacked at the PG position with Lowry, Dragic and now Jonny Flynn. Patrick Patterson will be the back up for Scola, while Marcus Morris brings a versatility to able to be back up at both SF and PF spot, and could eventually as the season goes be the starting SF, although I doubt he over takes Budinger. They have alot of versatile players, but lacks height. They may go in the season as Chuck Hayes (6’6) as their Center.

[ilike.panochasParticipant]

Their also stacked at the PG position with Lowry, Dragic and now Jonny Flynn. Patrick Patterson will be the back up for Scola, while Marcus Morris brings a versatility to able to be back up at both SF and PF spot, and could eventually as the season goes be the starting SF, although I doubt he over takes Budinger. They have alot of versatile players, but lacks height. They may go in the season as Chuck Hayes (6’6) as their Center.

[delfamParticipant]

 Jordan Hill/Thabeet at center

Scola/Patterson at PF

Morris will backup the 4/3

[delfamParticipant]

 Jordan Hill/Thabeet at center

Scola/Patterson at PF

Morris will backup the 4/3

[BradfomsParticipant]

There is a great Bill Simmons article from the end of the regular season talking about teams that didn’t make the playoffs. The Rockets, according to him, fell victim to the "Law of Too Many Guys", in that they have too many players that can compete for minutes on a nightly basis, and so they never have a consistent group of guys always playing together, and thus cannot build the necessary chemistry/familiarity required to succeed…it’s definitely an interesting take on their situation…I also think they lack a go-to guy…I don’t know that Kevin Martin is that guy

[BradfomsParticipant]

There is a great Bill Simmons article from the end of the regular season talking about teams that didn’t make the playoffs. The Rockets, according to him, fell victim to the "Law of Too Many Guys", in that they have too many players that can compete for minutes on a nightly basis, and so they never have a consistent group of guys always playing together, and thus cannot build the necessary chemistry/familiarity required to succeed…it’s definitely an interesting take on their situation…I also think they lack a go-to guy…I don’t know that Kevin Martin is that guy

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t believe Marcus Morris was drafted to play power forward.  We will play him at small forward and Motiejunas will play center, somewhat like how Andrea Bargnani plays it, until we are able to acquire a good defensive center. 

Not to mention, Jordan Hill will not be resigned and Luis Scola is aging.  Patrick Patterson will play the role Carl Landry used to play for us. 

In essence, it’s not a mistake.  Thabeet and Hill with not be resigned and Scola will be kept until Patterson is ready.

Edit:  Dragic will probably not be resigned, leaving us with Lowry and Flynn as our two PGs.

Our future:

• Motiejunas / Thabeet
• Scola / Patterson
• Budinger / Morris / Williams
• Martin / Lee
• Lowry / Flynn

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t believe Marcus Morris was drafted to play power forward.  We will play him at small forward and Motiejunas will play center, somewhat like how Andrea Bargnani plays it, until we are able to acquire a good defensive center. 

Not to mention, Jordan Hill will not be resigned and Luis Scola is aging.  Patrick Patterson will play the role Carl Landry used to play for us. 

In essence, it’s not a mistake.  Thabeet and Hill with not be resigned and Scola will be kept until Patterson is ready.

Edit:  Dragic will probably not be resigned, leaving us with Lowry and Flynn as our two PGs.

Our future:

• Motiejunas / Thabeet
• Scola / Patterson
• Budinger / Morris / Williams
• Martin / Lee
• Lowry / Flynn

[bdiddy5115Participant]

Drafting Morris to play SF was ridiculous, especially when you have proven 3s such as Leonard and Singleton available. Morris won’t ever be able to defend 3s, nor take them off the dribble. I don’t see a mismatch problem, I see a liability – if we actually plan on using him there.

I used to support Morey, but at its become evident that he’s more concerned with building a group of assets than a cohesive unit. How many young guys is he going to acquire, before seeing them not utilized on this unbalanced roster – and then ship them out for future picks? Its a cycle.

Flynn, Dragic, T-Will, Hill…all those guys have untapped potential that will never be realized here due to the personnel/coaching we have. Granted, Hill/T-Will need to improve their mentality as well, but that’s not the point. I’m willing to bet Motiejunas (if he shows any promise) will not be fully utilized either.

I’m usually not a pessimist, but I’m appalled to see draft "experts" giving us B+/A- grades. "Value" doesn’t mean **** if its going to rot away.

[bdiddy5115Participant]

Drafting Morris to play SF was ridiculous, especially when you have proven 3s such as Leonard and Singleton available. Morris won’t ever be able to defend 3s, nor take them off the dribble. I don’t see a mismatch problem, I see a liability – if we actually plan on using him there.

I used to support Morey, but at its become evident that he’s more concerned with building a group of assets than a cohesive unit. How many young guys is he going to acquire, before seeing them not utilized on this unbalanced roster – and then ship them out for future picks? Its a cycle.

Flynn, Dragic, T-Will, Hill…all those guys have untapped potential that will never be realized here due to the personnel/coaching we have. Granted, Hill/T-Will need to improve their mentality as well, but that’s not the point. I’m willing to bet Motiejunas (if he shows any promise) will not be fully utilized either.

I’m usually not a pessimist, but I’m appalled to see draft "experts" giving us B+/A- grades. "Value" doesn’t mean **** if its going to rot away.

[thparadoxParticipant]

 

Daryl Morey’s strategy is to accumulate enough assets to eventually make a blockbuster trade for a superstar. He hasn’t been able to do it yet.. Kevin Martin was a good move. But he’s hoping for something better.

Motiejunas acquisition was smart. He really fell in the draft.

[thparadoxParticipant]

 

Daryl Morey’s strategy is to accumulate enough assets to eventually make a blockbuster trade for a superstar. He hasn’t been able to do it yet.. Kevin Martin was a good move. But he’s hoping for something better.

Motiejunas acquisition was smart. He really fell in the draft.

[tubbyman1Participant]

 Marcus Morris will play the 3 buding and morris will have to compete in training camp for it and it depends on kevin mchales coaching style. 

[tubbyman1Participant]

 Marcus Morris will play the 3 buding and morris will have to compete in training camp for it and it depends on kevin mchales coaching style. 

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

" Drafting Morris to play SF was ridiculous, especially when you have proven 3s such as Leonard and Singleton available."

Yes, because drafting a small forward that can’t dribble or shoot or do anything else but defend and rebound is a much more sound decision (Leonard)

Marcus Morris is going to be better than Singleton, you can bet on that.  Singleton will never be more than a defender while Morris will be a scorer, rebounder, and hustle guy.

"Daryl Morey’s strategy is to accumulate enough assets to eventually make a blockbuster trade for a superstar."

That’s exactly what he’s going for.  Guys like Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Dwight Howard will be available this season.  It’s a lot easier to make the other team want to trade with you when you have tons of young assets and good players.  If I’m the Hornets, Nets, or Magic.. I’d much rather have Patterson, Thabeet, Hill, Lowry, Lee, Motiejunas, TWill, Budinger and Flynn instead of having your superstar walk out.

[bdiddy5115Participant]

What skill will Morris bring to the table exactly? Is he going to post up NBA 3s with his 6-7 wingspan? Leonard brings defense more than anything else, yes, but that’s what Houston needs. We were at our best when we were a tough-minded defensive squad. Now we have half the team not even playing on that end – and you can add Morris to that list.

[bdiddy5115Participant]

What skill will Morris bring to the table exactly? Is he going to post up NBA 3s with his 6-7 wingspan? Leonard brings defense more than anything else, yes, but that’s what Houston needs. We were at our best when we were a tough-minded defensive squad. Now we have half the team not even playing on that end – and you can add Morris to that list.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

" Drafting Morris to play SF was ridiculous, especially when you have proven 3s such as Leonard and Singleton available."

Yes, because drafting a small forward that can’t dribble or shoot or do anything else but defend and rebound is a much more sound decision (Leonard)

Marcus Morris is going to be better than Singleton, you can bet on that.  Singleton will never be more than a defender while Morris will be a scorer, rebounder, and hustle guy.

"Daryl Morey’s strategy is to accumulate enough assets to eventually make a blockbuster trade for a superstar."

That’s exactly what he’s going for.  Guys like Deron Williams, Chris Paul, and Dwight Howard will be available this season.  It’s a lot easier to make the other team want to trade with you when you have tons of young assets and good players.  If I’m the Hornets, Nets, or Magic.. I’d much rather have Patterson, Thabeet, Hill, Lowry, Lee, Motiejunas, TWill, Budinger and Flynn instead of having your superstar walk out.

[kobyzParticipant]

the Motiejunas pick was great but i also don’t understand why they Pick Morris instead of Leonard who is much more the style they need, as he could compleament K-Mart better, they still have very promise intrigue core but i prefered it with Leonard:

 

Kyle Lowry/Goran Dragic/Jonny Flynn  
Kevin Martin/Courtney Lee/Terrence Williams  
Kawhi Leonard/Chase Budinger/Chandler Parsons
Donatas Motiejunas/Luis Scola/Patrick Patterson 
Hasheem Thabeet/Jordan Hill/Chuck Hayes

[kobyzParticipant]

the Motiejunas pick was great but i also don’t understand why they Pick Morris instead of Leonard who is much more the style they need, as he could compleament K-Mart better, they still have very promise intrigue core but i prefered it with Leonard:

 

Kyle Lowry/Goran Dragic/Jonny Flynn  
Kevin Martin/Courtney Lee/Terrence Williams  
Kawhi Leonard/Chase Budinger/Chandler Parsons
Donatas Motiejunas/Luis Scola/Patrick Patterson 
Hasheem Thabeet/Jordan Hill/Chuck Hayes

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Now, yes I agree that selecting Marcus Morris instead of Leonard may not have been a great decision, but I’m sure we can agree that Kawhi Leonard is a big risk.  He can either be a Gerald Wallace type guy or a Stanley Robinson.  Whereas Marcus Morris is a much safer pick and safety is a good option for a team that is starting a 6’5" center, no apparent starting SF, and a logjam at PG and PF.  We need all the consistency we can get at this moment.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Now, yes I agree that selecting Marcus Morris instead of Leonard may not have been a great decision, but I’m sure we can agree that Kawhi Leonard is a big risk.  He can either be a Gerald Wallace type guy or a Stanley Robinson.  Whereas Marcus Morris is a much safer pick and safety is a good option for a team that is starting a 6’5" center, no apparent starting SF, and a logjam at PG and PF.  We need all the consistency we can get at this moment.

[kobyzParticipant]

no way Kawhi Leonard will be Stanley Robinson, just look at his accomplish at SD, he successful player, he’s not just athletic energetic player he also has smart and smoothness to his game, if he’s a tweener he’s a good tweener… to me he is everything like Shawn Marion!

[kobyzParticipant]

no way Kawhi Leonard will be Stanley Robinson, just look at his accomplish at SD, he successful player, he’s not just athletic energetic player he also has smart and smoothness to his game, if he’s a tweener he’s a good tweener… to me he is everything like Shawn Marion!

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t see any Shawn Marion in him… He’s not going to be a 22ppg and 11rpg kind of guy..

He’s going to be solid, don’t get me wrong.  Kawhi is one of my favorite prospects in this draft class, I live near San Diego so I’m rooting for this guy.   I’m simply attempting to justify Marcus Morris.  It was not a completely horrible pick.  Although, I was hoping Houston selected Nikola Vucevic.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t see any Shawn Marion in him… He’s not going to be a 22ppg and 11rpg kind of guy..

He’s going to be solid, don’t get me wrong.  Kawhi is one of my favorite prospects in this draft class, I live near San Diego so I’m rooting for this guy.   I’m simply attempting to justify Marcus Morris.  It was not a completely horrible pick.  Although, I was hoping Houston selected Nikola Vucevic.

[kobyzParticipant]

bad pick for sure not, in terms of value Marcus Morris is quite equal, just Leonard is the better fit for Houston so i would have been pick him cause Leonard advantages will be more useful for Houston than Morris advantages…

[bdiddy5115Participant]

I don’t see how Morris is the safer pick. Maybe for a team with holes at both forward spots (they could test him out and play him where he fits best) but not on the Rockets. It seems like Morey put all his chips into Morris panning out as a SF – which isn’t safe at all if you watched Morris play at KU. He is an undersized faceup 4…I never watched KU and thought to myself that he would be a NBA perimeter player, not once (and I watched them plenty of times).

So we currently have 5 PFs on our roster (Scola, Patterson, Hill, Morris and Motiejunas)…And one 6-6 C, one C without a brain, and 3 PGs with fairly high potential. Morey is turning into Kahn in his "position obsessions".

[bdiddy5115Participant]

I don’t see how Morris is the safer pick. Maybe for a team with holes at both forward spots (they could test him out and play him where he fits best) but not on the Rockets. It seems like Morey put all his chips into Morris panning out as a SF – which isn’t safe at all if you watched Morris play at KU. He is an undersized faceup 4…I never watched KU and thought to myself that he would be a NBA perimeter player, not once (and I watched them plenty of times).

So we currently have 5 PFs on our roster (Scola, Patterson, Hill, Morris and Motiejunas)…And one 6-6 C, one C without a brain, and 3 PGs with fairly high potential. Morey is turning into Kahn in his "position obsessions".

[kobyzParticipant]

bad pick for sure not, in terms of value Marcus Morris is quite equal, just Leonard is the better fit for Houston so i would have been pick him cause Leonard advantages will be more useful for Houston than Morris advantages…

[grizz32Participant]

I am sorry but any team with Thabeet as a starter will not be very good at all. Thabeet cannot stay on the floor very long because he gets in foul trouble and gets winded along with him just not knowing what is going on.

[grizz32Participant]

I am sorry but any team with Thabeet as a starter will not be very good at all. Thabeet cannot stay on the floor very long because he gets in foul trouble and gets winded along with him just not knowing what is going on.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t think you guys see the moves we’re going to make.

As stated before, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams are all available this season.  We have enough talent and potential guys to put together a package that will entice the Magic, Hornets, and Nets. 

The Rockets will trade at least 3-5 of their players this season, I’m almost sure of it.

Most likely Thabeet, Flynn, Scola, Patterson, Terrence Williams, Marcus Morris, Chase Budinger and Courtney Lee.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I don’t think you guys see the moves we’re going to make.

As stated before, Dwight Howard, Chris Paul, and Deron Williams are all available this season.  We have enough talent and potential guys to put together a package that will entice the Magic, Hornets, and Nets. 

The Rockets will trade at least 3-5 of their players this season, I’m almost sure of it.

Most likely Thabeet, Flynn, Scola, Patterson, Terrence Williams, Marcus Morris, Chase Budinger and Courtney Lee.

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