New Orleans has traded Darius Songalia and Craig Brackins to Philly for Willie Green and Jason Smith, league source tells Y!
The Hornets desperately needed a better backup center and they got that in Jason Smith who, IMO can still be a very solid backup and part time starter, but I liked Brackins as a fit in that offense, but they are also loaded with forwards so it makes sense.
seems like kinda a wash to me. Songaila has a little more skill then smith but smith is more of a legit center. All of these guys are role players off the bench.
totally, I'm not sure where this really benefits Philly, but I see where helps NO
idk, if you can make a trade for a guy that was lottery talent a few years ago for peanuts i say why not. im not saying brackins is going to be an all star but he adds to the core of young players philly has. and he is another stretch big man(their bigs are probably better shooters than their guards, lmao). i think iggy will probably go at some point this season as well. they are still kind of a rebuilding team, but if they can get picks and young players for iggy on top of their possible top 10 picks, this is going to be a scary young team. with a core around jrue holiday, evan turner, thad young, craig brackins, and spencer hawes. plus maybe even a young big like kanter or p jones(if a top 5 pick). my point is the sixers are building the correct way and that is with acquiring young talent through draft or trade.
The thing I don't get about Brackins, is that he brings a lot of the same things to the table as Thad Young only IMO not quite as good and they are the same age. I think Brackins has the potential to be a good player, but I just don't see where he fits in unless they plan to ship out Young.
Way better trade for New Orleans. They are really committed to keeping Paul.
New Philly GM Rod Thorn is a big fan of Brackins..He had Brackins rated as 1 of the 14 best players in the draft...
When Thorn was with the Nets, he was hoping Brackins would be them at number 27 ...
but OKC chose him a few picks earlier then traded him to the Hornets...
Thorn believes Brackins can be a star....
know who they got lol. They have a pic of Jason Kapono instead of Jason Smith
i think brackins is more of a stretch 4 and thad young to me is a 3 all day. i think brackins can play some 3 and thad could play some 4 but i think brackins is best served as a stretch 4. i dont think brackins will be a star but he can be a great role player maybe like a robert horry. plus i think it was a good trade because i dont think smith and green were in phillys plans anymore. smith is coming off a major injury and green was taking pt from lou williams. i think philly got a steal here.
So for the Hornets, they have a SG that can do a little PG duty, and provide scoring off the bench behind Thornton.. Also, Smith is better than Aaron Gray so they upgraded their backup C.. They needed some size and scoring so I think they got that without giving up much.. Afterall, Brackins wasnt getting much PT behind West and Songolia was a bench player that was asked to play more minutes..
Does getting Willie Green means that Thorton will start at shooting guard?
Didnt Thornton start last year?
I totally do not get this for the Hornets. They are a team lacking front court depth, and they trade for Willie Green and Jason Smith? Jason Smith has been incredibly injury prone, and has not exactly set the world on fire when not so. So, even if he is healthy, he is not exactly who you want playing back-up Center. Willie Green is not a horrible guy to pick-up for them, as he may even be the starter they are looking for at the 2, though I am sure people will argue in favor of Marcus Thornton. I just think Marcus coming off the bench would be a great thing to have for them, so I understood why they were looking for a starting 2 possibly, but what a strange trade. I personally think Craig Brackins might have been one of the bright spots on that roster, and now they just ship him for two realtively older journeymen. Songaila also was a player I had forgotten they even had, but he at least provided some front court depth and is also not a bad player in his own right. So, very much get the move for Philly, they build some depth at the 4, maybe even Brackins playing 3 in spots. Craig Brackins had a bad junior year, but I always liked his game and he has a lot of skill for someone at around 6'10. Their was a reason the guy was a first round pick, and while he went surprisingly high, I did not think it was a bad pick in that eventual trade with the Thunder.
The Hornets just really confuse me right now. I guess Monty Williams may like something in Green, but I thought them getting Rudy would have been a great deal. I know it was not their fault Rudy did not want to go there (though it may indeed have something to do with Williams being a former coach), but this trade does not seem to make up for it in the least. I wanted to also point out, why would Rudy not want a chance to play with Chris Paul? I see little reason Rudy would not get a great deal of PT on the Hornets, and he would be playing with a PG people die to play with. Speaking of which, if I were Utah, why not take a look at Rudy as well? You just lost Kyle Korver and Wesley Matthews, and have had a tough time finding a consistent starter at the 2 for years. Rudy would play incredibly well with Deron Williams, I think that is a place Rudy should look into, though he probably still only wants Chicago, Boston or New York. I can not wait until the day that is over. But, in the mean time, weird move by the Hornets, interesting move by the 76ers.
Philly is making power moves all of a sudden. I honestly thought that Lou Williams would be part of the deal before I read the thread. That means they must have expectations for him, as their lead guard to come off the bench instead of Green.
I think Brackins has the ability to be a slightly lesser version of Charlie Villanueva, but I don't know if the 76ers really needs a big who doesn't like bang, and doesn't defend, or rebound that great. We already have Speights and Hawes. Brackins is a developmental prospect though, so he's probably not going to factor all that much next year anyway. I actually think Philly got good value getting Brackins for Willie Green. Hopefully it frees up time for Jodie Meeks at the SG spot, because Meeks looks good every time I watch him play. In fact, he plays like a rich man's version of Willie Green
now there is no back up powerforward for the hornets now
I dont get it because Brackins was suppose to replace West if he left
I think they are hoping Willie Green can be a back up point guard
Paul - Green - Shakur
Thorton - Belinelli - Green
Ariza - Pondexter - Peja
West - ???
Okafor - Smith - Gray
Smith can play PF too, I think they brought him in for both.
depth wise they need more upfront
2nd rounder and trade exception for Jason Maxiell
Where is Sean Marks when you need him? I'm sure the Hornets can always resign Marks after the Wizards are finished with him.
That's just a lateral trade to me.
Philadelphia gets Brackins, who could be good and a potential 6th man but he could be out the L in 3 years. Songalia is a scab.
New Orleans gets Willie Green (who I know Iggy hates) and Jason Smith. Green is alright. Smith is average to me.
I guess New Orleans would win if I had to pick a winner.
This screws up all of those rookie basketball cards that have Brackins in a Hornets jersey.
That sir, is the beauty of photoshop
lol@joe wolf.......both teams just traded bench players nothing to get in a uproar about
;I hated Willie Green with a passion the first few years he played here. All he is to do is take shots away from Iverson in the beginning and he wasn't that good. Then he got hurt a few times and I was like good riddance thinking he was done. But then he fought back from the injuries and became a key cog to this teams playoffs birth the year after Iverson left. Thats when I found out why the Sixers kept resigning him and he still got playings time, the guy is the definition of a professional basketball player and he works hard on and off the court. Not to mention these last two years he became a better off ball and spot up shooter. When he first got here almost every shot he took was off the dribble and he couln't shoot standstill or coming off a screen. Jason Smith I thought had a huge amount of potential the guy is 7'0 and has a 38" vert!!! 7'0 with a 38" vert!!! Not to mention he runs the court faster then most guards and can shoot from the outside. We thought we had a poors man Dirk but more athletic. But no we didn't. While Thad Young has continued to show he can be an impact player in this League Smith couldn't even get off the bench because he either wasn't a good fit for the offense or I dunno why. Because the Sixers didn't have an offense last yea Eddie Jordan scrapped the princeton offense and the Sixers were playing more streetball then anything.
I like Brackins alot. I don't know where we're gonna find room for Songaila. We're already loaded upfront with Hawes, Speights, Brand, and Young that our rotation right there. And we lost two big thigs, size and 3 point shooting. This trade is a wash.
Preach about Willie Green!! haha I like this trade a lot for the Sixers actually. We traded away two bums and got back one bum and one potential starter. I have noooo idea why NO wanted to do this trade.
Jason Smith actually looked really good before his first injury. Willie Green is a solid combo guard and New Orleans is not done picking up players that are still out there that can play. There will be big men that can be had if New Orleans wants more depth in the front court.
I wonder how Brackins will effect Thad's burn now.
Not much. Brackins will take like 3-5 of his minutes at most, but I still think Thad will still hover around 30 mpg or something close. Brackins will be the 3rd PF next year
Here is the link... Take a look...
I hope that post.. I know it just shows him dunking to the average person.. Look a little deeper.. Playing with CP3 will do wonders for this guy.. I mean watch him cut and slash to the basket at the right time after a player drives.. He hovers within his range until the right time to cut.. He runs the floor and can/could finish with some power.. I think he is a good addition for the Hornets.. He is a better C than Aaron Gray because Gray seems glued to the block...