Hip-Hop question/ opinions needed

Immortal Technique, Tyga, Shad, Wiz Khalifa Taylor Gang or die lol, Cudi, Old Kanye, and I love me some Gucci

You guys need to listen to real rap..Make this your playlist and forget about that garbage you listen to..

Lil Boosie- Bustas by the Dozen
Lil Boosie ft. Nipsey Hussle- Thuggin
Nipsey Hussle- Black Superman
Nipsey Hussle ft. 2Pac ft. Jay Rock ft.Jan Sumers-Army All By Myself
Nipsey Hussle ft Cory Gunz- Money is My Langauge
Cory Gunz-MR. Fresh
Coey Gunz ft. Cassidy-Body Bags
Cassidy ft. French Montana and A R AB-City Of Dreams
French Montana-Cocaine City
French Montana ft. Jadakiss-New York Minute
Jadakiss ft. Styles P-Top 5 Dead Or Alive
Styles P-Supergangsta
Styles P ft.Max B- Kill That &$#%#&@!

These guys ghostwrite for all your favourite rappers...Styles P and Jadakiss have been known to ghostwrite for 50 Cent, Cory Gunz made A Milly, Max B and Lil Boosie are gonna be serving life so only thing elft for them to do is ghostwrite, Cassidy is a well known ghostwriter.

"Kanye, Drake, Em, T.I., Wale, Jeezy, Cudi, Ross, Fab and then Wiz" Knicksboys Top 10)

Only good rappers there are Emenim and T.I. Fab used to have some nice lyrics but fell off, Kanye used to have som amazing songs and fell off, the rest just plain suck.

Theres media rappers and theres real rappers, listen to Lil Wayne then listen to Styles P and tell me...

props to who mentioned Immortal Technique...flows and knows what is up.

my favorites lead me to the west coast....anyone ever hear Bambu? my number one now.
also love Power Struggle (has a ton of heart)....the Blue Scholars (Geologic) is one of the best lyricists.
Native Guns, Savage Family (cuz I am a Native), The Coup

you wanna see some great improve battling check out Dumbfoundead...clever genius

screw all that rhyme about dancin crap...this music has too much power to be wasted on lame mindless lyrics

by the way, no one ghostwrites for any of these guys...

come on guys... antoine dodson is clearly on top of the hip hop world these days.

But seriously, I mostly find new rap stuff surfing NBA mixes... couple I watch every couple of days are Maino - All the Above ft T-Pain Kobe Bryant mix and the Derrick Rose mix with R.O.O.T.S. by Flo Rida.

Also, Kanye deserves a little cred, but I find he's better when he only has one verse in a song ala Run this Town instead of his solo stuff.

Am I the only one who doesn't like eminem's new stuff?

How is T.I the king of the south? He not even the best in his own state lol.
I really dont care for Boosie, sonwhatever. Immortal Techinique is really nice
By the way, Em is garbage. People are all on his dock but all he talks about is killing his wife n othrer crazy &$#%#&@!.

Dont forget about Tech N9NE and Talib Kweli cuz there hot stuff to.

Lil B is the gayest rapper EVER

he calls himself a princess

he also says, “Im wet"

he says “I’m a pretty b****” over and over on some of his songs.

"I'm god! I look like Jesus!"

"H**** on my d*** cause I look like Jesus/N***** gettin mad cause I dress like Jesus Christ/ I'm that pretty b****, Imma f*** her all night/Gold mouth b**** and I look like a princess

http://community.allhiphop.com/showthread.php?60005-Thank-You-Based-God-...

yah Immortal technique, and Tech 9 are amazzing.

Jeez...

First to 10 DOA.
1. Nas (Its not really close, best who ever did it)
2. Jay-z
3. Big Pun
4. Biggie
5. Eminem
6. Big L
7. Lupe Fiasco
8. Raekwon
9. Jadakiss
10. Busta Rhymes

I dont give a &$#%#&@! about who's new, who's hot, who's up and coming. Its about who makes/ has the best rap music. D Block and WU TANG all day. Ghostface, GZA, Method Man, and Rae spit better than any rapper not named Lupe. Mobb Deep has some ill lyrics, but they can get repetetive.

As for T.I., who's better from Atlanta? I would only give Dre Three Stacks but thats it.

PS. Styles P came into my job yesterday, so I had to give him a shoutout. Told me to come his new book, "Invincible". Styles writing a book is... interesting.

AZ, Common, Mos, Talib, Foxy, Lauren Hill, Rah Digga, Masta Killa, RZA, Cannibus, SP the Ghost, Q-Tip, Slaughterhouse, and Outkast are my playlist mainstays. I have a LOT of Wu. They are, along with Nas, Lupe, and D-block, my favorite rap acts.

Tupac was extremely overrated, his flow was simplistic, his imagery rudimentary. People say he's a poet, while so was everyone else that gave a damn. His metaphor, and use of literary devices were surpassed by many people. Honestly, I love Tupac the person because as a man he stood for many things I believe and/or appreciate, but as a rapper, he wasn't better than say, Kool G Rap. KRS One is good for his early era. Rakim was better than all of them.

And you may want to recheck Busta's entire discography. Just like Em ranks high because of his early work, Busta's Anarchy, The Coming, Genesis, and It Aint Safe No More are &$#%#&@! classics. He's so underrated its sad. he's been around, making hits for almost two decades and gets no respect. He flat spits.

And Immortal Technique, if he was in Wu, he'd be somewhere between RZA, and Masta Killa, which isnt bad, but he's like a cross between Ortiz n Pun in style, and Wu Tang in content.

Your full of &$#%#&@! Pac spit fire and to say he isnt Top 10 is just retarded. Especially with the impact he had on the whole hip-hop scene.

You all know Lil B is a base head right...This guy is so high off crack it`s unbelievable.

Impact, doesnt make you the best lyricist. I have over 8000 songs, 6500 rap. I have all of Tupac's albums and I've listened to all of them quite extensively, especially through high school. Its my opinion, so calm the &$#%#&@! down Canada. I'm just giving respect to an artist that clearly deserves it, you're just jocking the guy and attacking me.

And add When Disaster Strikes for Busta.

To illustrate the impact point, who's been more impactful for making rap the cashcow it is more than Wayne and 50? Where would you rank them?

he was like Call Soulja Boy, Call Soulja Boy....I aint got Soulja Boy number.....I lost my &$#%#&@! phone

You guys already mentioned almost all of my top hip hop artist

i would add little brother(mainly phonte)
murs
clipse

"How is T.I the king of the south? He not even the best in his own state lol."

SMH....You have NO clue what you're talking about

^true T.I. is the best rapper to come out of GA since andre and big boi

As far as the souths best ever (in no order)

T.I., Scarface, Goodie Mobb, UGK, Outkast, Devin The Dude, Slim Thug, Z-Ro, The Hot Boys, Luda, Jeezy

I honestly do not know much about him, I have some stuff he did with 9th Wonder and it is pretty decent. I guess I should listen up more, I just know I was not really feeling the song he did with Lady Gaga that got radio airplay, and luckily I do not really have to drive to work and listen to the radio anymore :).

These are some of my favorite producers (aka if this person has a track with someone, I am very happy to listen to it):
1) DJ Premier (anything with Premo I will listen to, best of all time to me, GangStarr is my favorite group ever)
2) Dilla (RIP)
3) Pete Rock
4) 9th Wonder (Justus League producers basically, and I am sure the Elite 11 soundtrack will be awesome, while the game will pale in comparison to 2k11)
5) Large Professor
6) Timbo (anything he produces is worth a listen, done some of the best Jay-Z songs in my opinion)
7) Nicolay (His instrumentals are sick, and love The Foreign Exchange)
8) Madlib
9) Hi-Tek
10) Marley Marl 9Would be higher on my list of all-time greats, but this is not that list)
11) Just Blaze
12) Danger Mouse or MF Doom
13) Rjd2
14) Alchemist
15) Prince Paul

Guys who everyone knows super well and may dislike:
1) Dr. Dre (One of the best PRODUCERS (not rappers) ever, even if I am kind of sick of hearing about Detox and his attitude towards his artists/perfectionism)
2) Kanye West (Is an all out great producer, though I definitely got as sick of him as most other people. He has made some monster tracks, and while he is not really my favorite MC, he has made a lot of good music during his time in Hip-Hop)
3) Neptunes/Skateboard P (Used to be adamantly against them, but I give them a lot of credits. Have made some monster hits and some very good tracks)
4) RZA (one of the best ever)
5) Salaam Remi (Produced huge tracks on great albums and some monster street tracks)

DJ Quik also is a personal favorite, some great beats.

So, now that we have some of the best beats for people to rap over, I will give you a list of some of my personal favorite MC's, in close to order:

1) Notorious BIG
2) KRS-One (my favorite Live MC)
3) Rakim
4) Nas
5) Jay-Z
6) Big Daddy Kane
7) Talib Kweli/Mos Def
8) Common
9) Kool G Rap
10) Eminem
11) Tupac
12) Slick Rick
13) Guru
14) Black Thought
15) Big Pun
16) Big L
17) Gza
18) Method Man
19) Redman
20) Chuck D
21) Run and DMC
22) Q-Tip/Phife
23) Royce Da 5'9
24) Phonte
25) Canibus
26) LL Cool J (Got ya L, lol)
27) Jadakiss (well, all of the Lox, but Jada is the best)
28) Anyone on Year Round Records :) (Blaq Poet, NYG'z, and I am hoping Nick Javas brings it)
29) Aceyalone
30) Del (anyone Hiero)
31) Bun B (should be much higher on an actual list and Trill OG is a beast)
32) Lil'Fame and Billy Danze (MOP)
33) Freddie Foxxx aka Bumpy Knucks
34) Jeru the Damaja
35) Afu-Ra
36) Raekwon
37) Ghostface Killah
38) Elzhi
39) Ice Cube
40) Buckshot
41) MURs (though I listen to him a lot more than people ahead of him on this list)
42) Scarface
43) Jean Grae
44) Lady of Rage
45) Lauryn Hill
46) MC Lyte
47) Kurupt
48) Posdnuos (De La Soul)
49) Dre/Big Boi
50) Skillz

This is not an all-time list, but a list of hip hop artists that I listen too on a consistent basis (like, in a given week, probably touch on most of the list). I have left many out, but I just wanted to give some idea of the hip-hop I enjoy listening too, and maybe stuff for people to check out.

Pac and Biggie wrote the mauscript for all these other rappers... Nobody spit with the passion that Pac displayed, the weight in his lyrics changed the GAME... When he got on that THug LIFe &$#%#&@!, he shut the game down... He may not have been the best lyricist but he had the best music.. He set the trend all these "thug rappers" emulate.. BTW best CD of all time Machiavelli the Don...

Has any one heard of Tech N9ne from Kansas City?? He is dope?

Overall, wether you listen to Wacka Flocka or Wu Tang, im surprised theres so many hip-hop fans here.

I would have assumed alot of you were mohawk-having, insane-piercing, birdman tattoo-having, death-metal-rock-listening, bunch of hillbillies

What is up with these guys? Man, and I watched the apology videos too (well, Lil'B's was 9 mins, so I just got the gist of the first little bit) and have to say, what? These guys have serious issues. I mean, it is kind of funny, because he keeps saying the punch didn't hurt, but it looks like he wants to cry. Gold teeth are hella played out. Why do people wear stickers on their fitteds? I have never heard of Lil' B or Lil' Nico, but for them to say they are trying to push positivity and educate is like saying a slug is teaching Usain Bolt how to run track. Just not really happening. Speaking of slugs, I forgot to mention Slug (Atmosphere), Brother Ali, RA the Rugged Man, Ill Bill/Non Phixion/La Coka Nostra and even Busta Rhymes. Brother Ali is one I highly recommend if you would like to learn something, though all of the above listed MC's can teach you things (even Busta once in a while).

lol @magikknick

and mikey i have no idea, i hate them to be honest i just think the "thank you based god" pictures are funny(and i hope they didnt offend anybody) besides that i think he is wack. Like you said he tries to claim he is a positive mc then he shoots a video in a church with lyrics about H**s, calling himself a pretty b**** and comparing himself to Jesus, but hey he still has fans so i guess he can live with himself for it

Hey, as long as he is selling records I guess that is fine, and people have done worse, I just have to say I am not on the band wagon. Plus, how many times can you see "You feel me" in an apology without the other person thinking it is a pick-up line? They kept saying "Bred" or something like that, did they mean 'brother" or "bro" or the even weirder version being "bra"? Well, they think they are too cool for school, but I've got a newsflash for them Walter Cronkite, they aren't (I hope people get the reference, lol). Just a lot of people that come out seem to be doing the same thing, calling themselves Lil'Insert absurd name or letter here and doing videos about doing some dance that was cool in the 60's. Next thing you know they'll be doing the damn sprinkler or shopping cart! I am not hating on people for listening to it, or them for having fans, but i can still think it is mildly absurd. Nonetheless, it tends to crack me up when they have their mini beefs and talk about haters/boosting up their people. If they really wanted to do that, than they would not spend so damn much time talking about the people that hate them and maybe, I don't know, lived their lives? At least give it a shot, you would be going against the grain, that is cool :)

So you guys saying T.I. is better than Big Boi?
<_<

Me personally? i like Big Boi more than T.I. but if you ask anybody in GA today who is better the most likely answer you will get is T.I.

"Kanye, Drake, Em, T.I., Wale, Jeezy, Cudi, Ross, Fab and then Wiz" Knicksboys Top 10)

Only good rappers there are Emenim and T.I. Fab used to have some nice lyrics but fell off, Kanye used to have som amazing songs and fell off, the rest just plain suck.

How dare you. Cudi and Wale got like 8 of the top 10 best songs right now. Drake is alright. Kanye had one non-hip hop album. He alright. Wiz and Ross are alright as well. You need to listen before stating incorrect facts friend.

Mikey V, I respect the hell out of your list, but no Lupe Fiasco? Guy is really a cut above most lyrically.

Lol Big Boi hasn't been better than T.I. since "Urban Legend" was released......

Outkast is better than T.I. overall if you compare their music altogether, but T.I. is easily the best rapper in the South currently, and he has been for a while now

I did not really listen to Lupe after "Fiasco Gate":
http://www.mtv.com/news/articles/1571748/20071011/fiasco__lupe.jhtml

I hear his new stuff is good, and I did listen to him for a while and like some of his stuff, but I thought the way he handled that situation was very weak and lead me to dislike him. He acts like ATCQ, but they had no effect on him? Even subliminally, he has to know that they are a group that built onto his whole style. The least he could do would be prepared for the damn show, as an MC, even if he did not listen to them or want to do it. I should give him another chance, but something about that situation really rubbed me the wrong way and it made me feel he was kind of a fraud. It kind of made it seem like his consciousness and intellectual persona was a little phony. Those are harsh words, but that was just how I felt back when it happened. That was just at the time mind you, and I am sure I can forgive and forget. His name always did make him sound like a Spanish cleaning lady too, But, I can respect that many do think he is a very strong MC.

Lupes pre-fame mixtapes>Lupes albums

"Dumb it down", where he is claiming he is educating youth and getting kids interested in school and such, right after he said all the dumb $hit about ATCQ. Way to be an "edutainer" Lupe. Next thing he would say is "I did not listen to KRS and BDP, I listened to Lil'B and Lil'Nico!" :)

Does anybody know where N.O.R.E. is these days?

To say someone has 8 of the to 10 songs right no isnt saying much, especially when you are talking about comemrcial media rap. Neither Wale or Cudi will ever crack the Top 250 Rap song list.

I said a top 10 right now. Wale and Cudi are hot right now.

I know the legends of the game and there not doing much right now.

Keyword: Right now.

My bad Knicksboy.. I know you said that.

I mean to say they are top 8 of 10 "right now" is not saying much at all.

I feel you. I made this post because a friend asked me to make a top 10. I wanted ppl's opinions.

A couple from the top of my head;

Reef The Lost Cauze
Sean Price
Statik Selektah
R.A. The Rugged Man
Blaq Poet
Hell Razah
Jedi Mind Tricks
NYG'Z
Reks
Army Of The Pharaohs
Blacastan
Marco Polo
Torae
Diabolic
Immortal Tech
Roc Marciano
Large Professor
9th Prince
M.F. Grimm
Godfather Don
Killah Priest
El Da Sensei

A few albums that dropped for all you real headz;

Kenny Diaz 'Lost Episodes Vol. 1 & 2: Best Of New York Underground Hip Hop, 1995-1999'
Natural Elements (A-Butta + L-Swift + Mr. Voodoo) '1999: 10 Year Anniversary'
Beatnuts 'U.F.O. Files: Rare & Unreleased Joints'
Nick Wiz 'Cellar Sounds: Vol. 1 1992-1998'
DJ Boogie Blind (of The X-ecutioners) 'Definitive D.I.T.C. (Best Of D.I.T.C.)'
Godfather Don 'The Nineties Sessions'
Kwest Tha Madd Lad 'These Are My Unreleased Recordings'
Buckwild (of D.I.T.C.) 'Diggin' In The Crates: Rare Studio Masters 1993-1997'
Pete Rock 'Underground Classics'
Lord Finesse 'Rare & Unreleased'
Lord Finesse 'Rare & Unreleased, Vol. 2'
Freestyle Professors 'The Best Of: The Unreleased Album'

im not gonna lie and say i know alot about rap. I love the music but just dont keep up with it. But Houston has to get some love.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3gFYmcbSWYA

lil keke and big pokey

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ORqzjo5CvS0&feature=related

part 2^

Props to the dude who mentioned talib Kweli. I like Mos Def too, even though he's deep into acting now.

Is one of the best lyricists ever. For instance: "My entire body is a spiritual facility, where I confess after my lyrical killing spree..." Just, wow. That on the song "The Perfect Beat" off of Ear Drum, and I can only find the concert version on youtube with he and KRS, where KRS just freestyles and Kweli does not do his second verse where he goes crazy! KRS is my favorite MC, this track is a personal favorite.

I love this cat, hardcore to the bone. An old Sicilian saying goes, "A man has to be like an olive, hard on the inside and soft on the outside." That's exactly how KRS-One is, the guy's polite, friendly and smart but he won't hesitate a second to drop you on your ass and end your career. Alot of the younger cats don't really know what he's all about and that's a shame. On the other hand I can understand a 45 year old adult rapper doesn't appeal as much to a teenager as "Lil' Brain".

"Quality" by Talib Kweli is legit. That's the one with "Get By" on it. Get By is one of the more underrated rap songs ever made IMO

Can-I-Bus (lyrically one of the best ever)....

didnt it have 2 remixes?

add Kidz In The Hall to this list

http://www.hiphopdx.com/index/singles/id.4784/title.kidz-in-the-hall-f-s...