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- Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 12:26pm #25120
ilike.panochasParticipantWhich player has the higher NBA upside, Tristan Thompson or Tobias Harris? Who will translate better in the NBA and who will go higher in 2011 draft, assuming both declare after this season. Also NBA comparison for each player?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 12:32pm #478185
BKKnicksfanParticipantTristian Thompson- Glen Davis and Tobias Harris- Larry Johnson (NYK verison)
The more I see Harris, the more I get dissapointed. You can compare him to even a guy like Antonie Walker, he doesn’t bang alot and always settle for the jumpers. I think he can be a solid rebounder at the next level, but I dobut he has the speed to guard some of the SF’s in the NBA and the size to defend some PF’s in spot mintues.
Thompson I like. I think he’s gonna struggle rebounding at the next level and that’s the only real reason I gave him the Big Baby comparison. Offensive wise, I might compare him to Horford a little bit because he’s so locked in on the low post but I see the 6-9 thing hindering him a little bit..not too much.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 12:43pm #478189
ilike.panochasParticipantYou lost me with the Tristan Thompson = Glen Davis comparison, Davis is big enough to be Thompson’s dad.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 12:46pm #478190
BKKnicksfanParticipantI gave you a description right under it….gotta read man. I not repeating myself.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 1:14pm #478194
gregoden08ParticipantThristian Thompson gets a Glen Davis comparison? That might be the WORST comparison I’ve ever seen. They have absolutely no similarities at all.
To answer the question, Thompson has a higher upside. Harris is a little bit of a tweener. Not quick enough to guard sf’s and not big enough to guard pf’s.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 1:23pm #478197
BKKnicksfanParticipantPeople don’t read today huh? Sigh…that’s why I guess I have negative points. People only see the name and hit the minus. No matter.
If you can take the 3 secs to scroll down and look at my small writeup on Thompson….u’d understand.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 1:24pm #478198
JoeWolf1I think Thompson, but he is pretty un polished offensively, he’s gonna take work IMO. There are far more cases of guys coming into the league terrrible free throw shooters and staying terrible free throw shooters than there are of guys making vast improvements (especially forwards and centers). His shot mechanics are decent so there is hope. I really don’t see either prospect as a future big time NBA player, but I think Thompson has more potential.
I think Harris is going to translate to a pretty one dimensional professional player. A guy who can come off the bench and score, but really not do a whole lot else. Thompson with about 20 more pounds could be a legit defensive presense and he is a hard worker on the glass, there are just some polish questions. To me it’s like asking if you want Ed Davis or Craig Brackins, two pretty different guys, but I don’t think either one is as good as originally rated…at least at this point in their careers.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 1:25pm #478200
gregoden08ParticipantI did read your stupid writeup. You said it had to do with rebounding. Just because he’s an average rebounder that doesn’t mean he’s Glen Davis. Is Thompson 6,8 300 pounds and is a below average athlete who can’t block shots? Exactly. Bad comparison. Deal with it and move on.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 1:58pm #478207
LAKE SHOWBoth average the same amount of rebounds but only Tobias will be a one dimensional player int he NBA? Tobias game should be alot like Al Harrington imo. I’m not sure who i could compare Tristan to. As far as comparing games you can compare Tristan to Glen davis since its the games that is being compared not the size of the player. A player who plays the four and bangs/rebounds yet can hit the midange jumper. Players dont have to jump the same or be the same size to compare there skills
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 2:00pm #478209
TRC1991Participantknicksboy, it had nothing to do with your comparison you just compared a LaMarcus Aldridge type player to Glen Davis…
and i see tristan thompson as having better upside, i see tobias harris as a dajuan summers type
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 2:08pm #478211
Tha_PrinceParticipantYa I do see a bit of LaMarcus Aldridge in Tristan Thompson, another comparison is Ed Davis. He rebounds well for the college level and can alter shots with his wingspan. Gets most of his points through hustle and dunks/layups though so he is limited offensively at this point, but still a very young talent.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 2:24pm #478221
gregoden08ParticipantI’m leaning towards an Ed Davis comparison rather than Aldridge. Aldridge is one of the most skilled big men in the game and im not sure if Thompson will ever develop into that type of player.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 3:26pm #478233
Demarcus OnealParticipantHarris is better IMO, and there is not wrong with being a tweener, I just think he is versaitaile I think that his ball handling is good enough to play 3 and his size and underrrated athleticism can alllow him to be a face up 4 man. I really like Thompson but I think he is way to raw and not that tall he only looks about 6-9 to me but he plays like a center
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 4:53pm #478253
Snubs15ParticipantTristan Thompson is more like Amir Johnson in my opinion. Although the Ed Davis one is pretty similar. But yeh definitely nothing like Glen Davis lol.
Id say Thompson has the higher upside but its really hard to tell between him and Harris.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 5:05pm #478255
dragons12Participanti think that tobias is more of a system player. He would fit perfectly at the 4 for a team who plays an up tempo game ie: the knicks, suns, warriors. thompson is all post a little small for a power foward but still produces. however i think tobias will end up doing more in th nba he is ready
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 5:13pm #478256
Malik-UniversalParticipantthompson has more upside
its not even close
0 - Posted on: Mon, 01/24/2011 - 7:40pm #478292
TyrekeJonesParticipantI may be bias because I absolutely love Harris’s game but I think he has more upside of the two, he is a very versatile player and though he is a tweener doesn’t mean he cannot make the transition to either a SF or PF, right now he is the better of the two I just don’t really see Thompson having that much more potential then Harris, he is very raw offensively and needs to add some weight, every time I see him I know he will be a good college player but I really cannot see him declaring this year and contributing next year in the NBA at the moment, he has a lot to work on. It would not be wise for either of them to declare this year though, they both need to work on their games, come back next season and improve their stock.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 01/25/2011 - 4:48am #478331
capecodderParticipantHarris=Ryan Gomes
0 - Posted on: Tue, 01/25/2011 - 6:28am #478342
midwestbbscoutParticipantI always thought a good comparison was Hakim Warrick…..I’ve been wrong before though….
ha I was just playin with you I’ve never been wrong….
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:59am #489512
kobyzParticipantyeh Tristan Thompson does remind me Ed Davis but also some Derrick Favors, Tobias Harris at best maybe could be an Antwan Jamson type…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 5:59am #489461
kobyzParticipantyeh Tristan Thompson does remind me Ed Davis but also some Derrick Favors, Tobias Harris at best maybe could be an Antwan Jamson type…
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:22am #489520
lalailaParticipantactually first thing comes to my mind when i hear their names is that they are two of the potentialy the best come back players in college for next season to compete with deep ’11 class for higher spot in draft mocks..i think next year they could probably compete for the spot in the top10 because they still can improve alot..
and i see more upside in Thompson too..not seven footer not 280pounder like no true post moves but this kid only because of athleticism and toughness goes for 13and8 every night for nation elite team with over two blocks too..i like him
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 6:22am #489468
lalailaParticipantactually first thing comes to my mind when i hear their names is that they are two of the potentialy the best come back players in college for next season to compete with deep ’11 class for higher spot in draft mocks..i think next year they could probably compete for the spot in the top10 because they still can improve alot..
and i see more upside in Thompson too..not seven footer not 280pounder like no true post moves but this kid only because of athleticism and toughness goes for 13and8 every night for nation elite team with over two blocks too..i like him
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 8:15am #489521
Dale WorthingtonParticipantHarris is prob the most overrated draft prospect out there.
He’s stiff and unathletic…gonna end up as an undersized 4 in the NBA, too.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 8:15am #489571
Dale WorthingtonParticipantHarris is prob the most overrated draft prospect out there.
He’s stiff and unathletic…gonna end up as an undersized 4 in the NBA, too.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:43am #489664
Stanford hoops1Another guy fans may overrate because he is athletic but not very skilled. Classic
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:43am #489713
Stanford hoops1Another guy fans may overrate because he is athletic but not very skilled. Classic
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:56am #489729
OhCanada-ParticipantI think Tobias Harris went to the wrong program… Although I do believe his game can be salvaged and if he gets the proper reps in and proper guidance he has more overall upside. I absolutely love this kids game and what he could be, he has so much skill just waiting to emerge but he is not ready for the NBA. If he gets drafted this year he might as well kiss a long peice of his career goodbye. I think Ryan Gomes would be a good comparison at the rate hes going, although Gomes has a hardworkers mentality and imo Tobias is moving like he thinks everything will be handed to him. Its gonna hit him really hard when he finds out its not.
Thomspon is obviously the safe bet due to the fact that we all know he is going to be an impact energy type rotation player in the NBA regardless of where he goes. Hardworking energy type guys always get run in the NBA. His length compensates for his lack of hieght but he needs to gain weight and quick, or he may just end up like an agressive Amir Johnson. Also he has to work on free throw shooting and all around offensive polish. Serge Ibaka is a good comparison for him imo.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:56am #489680
OhCanada-ParticipantI think Tobias Harris went to the wrong program… Although I do believe his game can be salvaged and if he gets the proper reps in and proper guidance he has more overall upside. I absolutely love this kids game and what he could be, he has so much skill just waiting to emerge but he is not ready for the NBA. If he gets drafted this year he might as well kiss a long peice of his career goodbye. I think Ryan Gomes would be a good comparison at the rate hes going, although Gomes has a hardworkers mentality and imo Tobias is moving like he thinks everything will be handed to him. Its gonna hit him really hard when he finds out its not.
Thomspon is obviously the safe bet due to the fact that we all know he is going to be an impact energy type rotation player in the NBA regardless of where he goes. Hardworking energy type guys always get run in the NBA. His length compensates for his lack of hieght but he needs to gain weight and quick, or he may just end up like an agressive Amir Johnson. Also he has to work on free throw shooting and all around offensive polish. Serge Ibaka is a good comparison for him imo.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:58am #489735
Stanford hoops1Tobias should have went to his second choice….Maryland. Would have had a bigger impact and not have to worry about having a bunch of gunning guards on his team
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 10:58am #489687
Stanford hoops1Tobias should have went to his second choice….Maryland. Would have had a bigger impact and not have to worry about having a bunch of gunning guards on his team
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 8:48pm #490282
kobyzParticipanti do belive Tristan Thompson could ends up as a very good NBA big, maybe as someone like Jermaine O’Neal, a defensive force with solid offense, cause i think Thompson has good understanding of the game, good instincts, nice skills though not yet polish, great work ethic and competitiveness and he is a legit 6-10 with large wingspan!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 8:48pm #490332
kobyzParticipanti do belive Tristan Thompson could ends up as a very good NBA big, maybe as someone like Jermaine O’Neal, a defensive force with solid offense, cause i think Thompson has good understanding of the game, good instincts, nice skills though not yet polish, great work ethic and competitiveness and he is a legit 6-10 with large wingspan!
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:30pm #490295
ilike.panochasParticipantI highly doubt, Thompson is 6’10. I’d be surprise if he measures any taller than 6’9. But he does have excellent wingspan.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 02/13/2011 - 9:30pm #490345
ilike.panochasParticipantI highly doubt, Thompson is 6’10. I’d be surprise if he measures any taller than 6’9. But he does have excellent wingspan.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 6:52am #490389
Stanford hoops1I think h is 6’9 max. When i watched the Canadian grass root team play my nphew’s team Dwight Powell was easily a inch and a half, 2 inchs taller than Tristen. He could have grown since then but he was 6’8-6’9
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 6:52am #490439
Stanford hoops1I think h is 6’9 max. When i watched the Canadian grass root team play my nphew’s team Dwight Powell was easily a inch and a half, 2 inchs taller than Tristen. He could have grown since then but he was 6’8-6’9
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 7:00am #490395
OhCanada-ParticipantActaully a while back i thought Jermaine Oneal was a good comparison as well. Jermaine came into the as a long athletic big, who needed a bit more strength, but was a defensive presence. although his offensive polish wasnt there everyone knew he had skill and the dedication to build on his offensive game.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 02/14/2011 - 7:00am #490445
OhCanada-ParticipantActaully a while back i thought Jermaine Oneal was a good comparison as well. Jermaine came into the as a long athletic big, who needed a bit more strength, but was a defensive presence. although his offensive polish wasnt there everyone knew he had skill and the dedication to build on his offensive game.
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