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- Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:31am #23559
andxxxParticipantThe Miami Heat‘s players are frustrated with Erik Spoelstra and some are questioning whether he is the right coach for their team, according to people close to the situation.
With the ballyhooed Heat losing four of their last five games and sporting a mediocre 9-8 record, the players are privately grumbling about Spoelstra on several fronts.
Sources say the players believe he is not letting them be themselves, that they are questioning his offensive strategies, and that they think he is panicking because he fears losing his job.
In contrast to the popular view that Spoelstra has been hesitant to jump on superstars LeBron James, Dwyane Wade and Chris Bosh, sources say the Heat coach has shown no fear in criticizing them.
Exhibit A was a recent shootaround in which Spoelstra told James that he had to get more serious. The source said Spoelstra called James out in front of the entire team, telling him, "I can’t tell when you’re serious."
"He’s jumping on them," one source said. "If anything, he’s been too tough on them. Everybody knows LeBron is playful and likes to joke around, but Spoelstra told him in front of the whole team that he has to get more serious. The players couldn’t believe it. They feel like Spoelstra’s not letting them be themselves."
It is not known whether the players voiced their concerns about Spoelstra during their players-only meeting following Saturday’s loss at Dallas. Nor is it apparent whether the bump between James and Spoelstra during a timeout in that game was accidental or a result of tension between the two.
Following the loss Saturday to Dallas, Wade said: "I never would put anything on the coach — win, lose or draw — because they can give us the game plan but they’re not on the court playing. … Now it’s time to take ownership. This is our team, even though we respect our coaches for what they do."
Spoelstra was not immediately available for comment. The Heat has a shootaround Monday morning in preparation for a game against Washington later in the day.
According to the sources, the Heat players believe Spoelstra’s offensive strategies have been too simplistic. They feel like he is running nothing but pick-and-rolls and telling the Heat’s secondary players to find open spots on the floor for catch-and-shoot jumpers.
The sources said the players also think the constant speculation about Spoelstra’s job security is getting to the third-year coach and that he has resorted to nitpicking over minor details because of it.
"He’s not a motivator," one of the sources said. "Instead of coaching he’s at the point where the players are starting to sense that he’s fearing for his job."
"I don’t worry about changes," Wade said on Saturday. "I can’t control them. Only thing we can control is our effort and the way we play."
Several people close to the situation said Wade definitely does not want team president Pat Riley to come down to the sidelines. Sources also said that while recruiting players this past summer, Riley insisted that he would not coach the team.
"Riley kept saying ‘Spoelstra’s a good coach and he’ll grow into a great coach,’ " a source said. "He said he got his coaching break [with the Los Angeles Lakers] around the same age as Spoelstra got his."
It is widely believed that Riley does not want to coach this season. However, one source said that privately Riley has at times been critical of the Heat’s game-planning.
While expectations around the league have started to lessen for the Heat because of their struggles, the sources said the players still have a championship-or-bust mentality for this season and that they are open to whatever changes are necessary to get there.
While the players think that may mean a coaching change, one member of the Heat organization said the team is suffering from a lack of leadership from the players, not the coach.
"They don’t want to step on each other’s toes," the person said. "There’s no leader on the team. Somebody has to speak up and be the leader on the team. They can’t be afraid to step on people’s toes. They need a vocal leader who’s going to make everybody accountable. I don’t think it’s on the coach. It’s on the players."
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:58am #446531
td8118ParticipantGreat Post…. Here are my thoughts though
Even though its early in the season, Spoelstra’s job has to be in question. Their offense is not working at all and they still seem to have no idea how to succeed with Wade and Lebron coexisting on the court. I believe that the Heat should be running MORE pick n’ rolls with Bosh, which they have not been running nearly enough. instead the offense seems to slow down and will have Lebron or Wade handling the ball with the other on the baseline. This is not a successful offenseive set up. They also have shown a complete inability to defend a penetrating PG. Its amazing to think about but the Cavs of last year were a better team then this Miami Heat team.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:58am #446539
td8118ParticipantGreat Post…. Here are my thoughts though
Even though its early in the season, Spoelstra’s job has to be in question. Their offense is not working at all and they still seem to have no idea how to succeed with Wade and Lebron coexisting on the court. I believe that the Heat should be running MORE pick n’ rolls with Bosh, which they have not been running nearly enough. instead the offense seems to slow down and will have Lebron or Wade handling the ball with the other on the baseline. This is not a successful offenseive set up. They also have shown a complete inability to defend a penetrating PG. Its amazing to think about but the Cavs of last year were a better team then this Miami Heat team.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:58am #446542
td8118ParticipantGreat Post…. Here are my thoughts though
Even though its early in the season, Spoelstra’s job has to be in question. Their offense is not working at all and they still seem to have no idea how to succeed with Wade and Lebron coexisting on the court. I believe that the Heat should be running MORE pick n’ rolls with Bosh, which they have not been running nearly enough. instead the offense seems to slow down and will have Lebron or Wade handling the ball with the other on the baseline. This is not a successful offenseive set up. They also have shown a complete inability to defend a penetrating PG. Its amazing to think about but the Cavs of last year were a better team then this Miami Heat team.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:08am #446552
Toronto16ParticipantMade up story by ESPN trying to start controversy.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:08am #446560
Toronto16ParticipantMade up story by ESPN trying to start controversy.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:08am #446561
Toronto16ParticipantMade up story by ESPN trying to start controversy.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:12am #446559
andxxxParticipantChris Broussard is a great reporter most of what he says is legit I doubt its made up
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:12am #446566
andxxxParticipantChris Broussard is a great reporter most of what he says is legit I doubt its made up
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:12am #446571
andxxxParticipantChris Broussard is a great reporter most of what he says is legit I doubt its made up
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:14am #446563
Toronto16ParticipantYea, he also has a monster bias for the Heat which makes me wonder sometimes if his mom plays for them or something.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:14am #446569
Toronto16ParticipantYea, he also has a monster bias for the Heat which makes me wonder sometimes if his mom plays for them or something.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:14am #446575
Toronto16ParticipantYea, he also has a monster bias for the Heat which makes me wonder sometimes if his mom plays for them or something.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:39am #446576
Jlv2010Lebron James.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:39am #446583
Jlv2010Lebron James.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 6:39am #446590
Jlv2010Lebron James.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:22am #446670
MuggsyParticipant - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:22am #446677
MuggsyParticipant - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:22am #446681
MuggsyParticipant - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:27am #446692
torontoraptors10ParticipantI hope this shows all NBA players that forming super teams isn’t always the easy way to win a championship. To be honest, I hate these super teams. What ever happens to winning a championship with the team that drafted you, like Larry Bird and MJ?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:27am #446697
torontoraptors10ParticipantI hope this shows all NBA players that forming super teams isn’t always the easy way to win a championship. To be honest, I hate these super teams. What ever happens to winning a championship with the team that drafted you, like Larry Bird and MJ?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 9:27am #446702
torontoraptors10ParticipantI hope this shows all NBA players that forming super teams isn’t always the easy way to win a championship. To be honest, I hate these super teams. What ever happens to winning a championship with the team that drafted you, like Larry Bird and MJ?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:09pm #446755
andxxxParticipantplease do not tell me that celtics team was not a super team larry bird, kevin mchale, robert parrish, and dennis johnson was one of the best defensive players at the time. Are you kidding me?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:09pm #446760
andxxxParticipantplease do not tell me that celtics team was not a super team larry bird, kevin mchale, robert parrish, and dennis johnson was one of the best defensive players at the time. Are you kidding me?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:09pm #446765
andxxxParticipantplease do not tell me that celtics team was not a super team larry bird, kevin mchale, robert parrish, and dennis johnson was one of the best defensive players at the time. Are you kidding me?
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:50pm #446776
boxn1Participantif the players are frustrated, imagine how the coach feels watching his wings get blown by,and his big men punked down low. Its not even 20 games and this is coming out??? How about one of these guys step up and be a leader, that may just help. And yea teams had many talented players in the 80’s and 90’s, but the talent was wide spread. You can bring up the celtics teams, but did any of those guys talent clash with each others??? How about the current celtics??? any players do the exact same things??? You can’t be diverse on offense if you have 3 players with very similar games….
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:50pm #446781
boxn1Participantif the players are frustrated, imagine how the coach feels watching his wings get blown by,and his big men punked down low. Its not even 20 games and this is coming out??? How about one of these guys step up and be a leader, that may just help. And yea teams had many talented players in the 80’s and 90’s, but the talent was wide spread. You can bring up the celtics teams, but did any of those guys talent clash with each others??? How about the current celtics??? any players do the exact same things??? You can’t be diverse on offense if you have 3 players with very similar games….
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 3:50pm #446785
boxn1Participantif the players are frustrated, imagine how the coach feels watching his wings get blown by,and his big men punked down low. Its not even 20 games and this is coming out??? How about one of these guys step up and be a leader, that may just help. And yea teams had many talented players in the 80’s and 90’s, but the talent was wide spread. You can bring up the celtics teams, but did any of those guys talent clash with each others??? How about the current celtics??? any players do the exact same things??? You can’t be diverse on offense if you have 3 players with very similar games….
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 4:12pm #446804
andxxxParticipantif the talent was so widespread then why did the bulls, lakers, and celtics dominate those decades? If you get the chance read "The book of basketball" you’ll realize talent was not that widespread during those decades as it is now
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 4:12pm #446808
andxxxParticipantif the talent was so widespread then why did the bulls, lakers, and celtics dominate those decades? If you get the chance read "The book of basketball" you’ll realize talent was not that widespread during those decades as it is now
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 4:12pm #446812
andxxxParticipantif the talent was so widespread then why did the bulls, lakers, and celtics dominate those decades? If you get the chance read "The book of basketball" you’ll realize talent was not that widespread during those decades as it is now
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:18pm #446850
IndianaBasketballParticipantWow… What’s wrong with Spoelstra being hard on them and telling them to be serious?
I have no doubts this story was put out there by Maverick Carter and LeBron’s camp.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:18pm #446852
IndianaBasketballParticipantWow… What’s wrong with Spoelstra being hard on them and telling them to be serious?
I have no doubts this story was put out there by Maverick Carter and LeBron’s camp.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 11/29/2010 - 5:18pm #446857
IndianaBasketballParticipantWow… What’s wrong with Spoelstra being hard on them and telling them to be serious?
I have no doubts this story was put out there by Maverick Carter and LeBron’s camp.
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