there are 10-20 guys like Barnes....Melo is the unique one here to which nobody should be compared....
Midwest. Did u even watch melo in hs? Obviously not if u say he is miles ahead of barnes.
And Felton wasn't held back. What he did in college he can't do in the NBA. Lke I said he is what he is. He's not a. Game changer or allstar or star or very good. Just good starter who wouldn't start on a nice amount of teams in the NBA
Luol Deng being drafted 7th is a lot different to a player like Harrison Barnes who has been a consensus number 1 pick since 2012 mocks first started appearing last summer. Deng had a good rookie season and then showed great development between 2005 and 2007, having a couple of quieter and injury reduced seasons between 2007 and 2009 coupled with him signing a lucrative extension raised a few question marks. But last year he was getting back to his earlier former and remains a very good complimentary starter/2nd or 3rd scoring option on the team. He will continue to benefit from Derrick Rose’s development and should hopefully continue to improve himself.
I would consider Deng to perhaps be Barnes’s mid level or downside a good NBA complimentary starter with a combination of Grant Hill and perhaps Melo being his upside. He has a very good basketball IQ similar to Grant Hill ( one of the reasons why Grant can still be an NBA starter at pushing 38 years old) but isn’t the sort of point forward ball handler that Hill has been throughout his career.
Duke have had a few busts like Sheldon Williams in recent years but Jay Williams has had his career curtailed by injury, Elton Brand was an all star at his peak And averaged 20/10 for nearly a decade, Shane Battier remains one of the best defenders and intangibles players in the NBA and will no doubt be chased by numerous contending teams next summer.
Coach K’s record speaks for itself and although he has chosen never to coach in the NBA despite numerous offers over the years his record at Duke and with the USA Team puts him at the very elite level of Head Coaches in any sport or any era.
Melo was preparing to carry his team to a national title as a freshman.....so when Barnes does that make like Demarcus Cousins and call me.....
After he got biggr during the off season before his freshman year and stronger. We are talking about melo as a sr. If you watched him(which you clearly havnt) he wasn't the same player as a freshman as he was as a sr. What does it mean if melo carried his team to the titile as a freshman?different teams so that's not even comparable
I can't imagine there being 10-20 guys like Barnes, but Barnes can have a Melo like freshman year. Here is something to think about.
The year before Melo got to Syracuse, Syracuse was eliminated in the semi-finals of the NIT. The next season they won a National Championship.
UNC in 2009-2010 was NIT Runner-up. What 2010-2011 holds we shall see.
I think because people here so much about a top prospect they get impatient with all the talk that they start nitpicking little things in his game, and blow it up. I think Harrison Barnes is the real deal and will show it from his first game of his UNC career. Players like Barnes don't come along every year. Barnes is the type of player that comes along every 3-5 years, IMO.
you're right I never seen Melo play back then.....you caught me......I think carrying your team to a title as a freshman is a pretty good barometer of where you're at.....
Once again u are talking about A freshman melo on a different team. Unc isn't Syracuse. The comparison is sr barnes heading into college to sr melo heading into college. Two different players just like sr cousins and cousins at the end of his freshman year
I had Cousins ranked 3rd at the end of his SR year.....pretty much no diff to me lol....
It's obviously cousins got better even if you couldn't see ut. It was obvious. He even got better as the season went on. If you can't see that then I don't know what else to say
I dunno about comparing Melo and Barnes going into next season IF they win a title because UNC this year has way better talent then SU when they won.
I don't understand the Melo comparison. I got degrees of seperation here. Is Barnes comparable to Bernard King? I don't think so. I would compare him to someone like Danny Granger/ Luol Deng like.
Because it's melo as a sr. If someone hasn't seen him as a sr then I can understand how they don't understand the comparison. To be honest barnes is more skilled then melo was as a sr. Melo was skinny. Athletic. Didn't really post up much. Good slasher. During that summer before his freshman year he gained strength and weight as well as a post game plus he got some great coaching
That vise thing worked very well together and everyone knew there role plus played a tough zone. They wouldn't be as good if they played man. Even if unc has better individual talent that doesn't mean they play better as a team like the cuse did. Kentucky had great individual talent. Way better then wv but wv played better as a team
Oh, I thought were were talking Overall comparison.
A HS Melo is somewhat comparable then. I could see that.
summer is over.....the season is about to start.....it doesn't matter if they were playing on nerf hoops as 5 year olds Barnes has never had more skill than Melo....
as for Cousins.....I had him ranked 3rd at this date last year.....check that, October.....so I guess I'm just clairvognant (even if my spelling is bad at times).....
For me personally, some variation on the scottie pippen/ tmac mould.
6^8. massive wingspan. guard like passing ability.
i just have 3 questions.
1. will he mainly play offense or defense.
2. will he develop a killer instinct
3. whats the over/under on years untin he is in a rockets jersey.
wtf can luol deng do that barnes can't do?? stop comparing the two, they are similar in size and that's the only comparison....what do they do together that is so similar other than have a similar build and body type? barnes is already an all around better player, better jump shot without question, better off the dribble, better finisher, more ability to create, better ball-handler (deng can't dribble), defensively who knows but one things for sure i doubt barnes is any worse defensively....im a bulls fan so believe me when i tell you deng is no more than a role player, and im still pissed about draft day when they took deng over iguodala
by barnes second year in the league he will be averaging better numbers than deng ever averaged....don't compare these two ever again, the comparison has zero merit..
I seriously doubt Chicago wishes they would have taken JR Smith or Jameer Nelson over Luol Deng. 17.6 ppg and 7.4 rpg is good for a #7 pick to me, plus he's not a total nutcase like JR and is putting up better stats than Jameer anyway. You could debate about Kevin Martin, but I'd still take Deng because he does more than just score
Barnes more skilled then melo in Melos sr year. We havnt seen if he added even more just like melo did before his freshman year
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