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  • #32958
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    ghrghr
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    Greivis has been playing great in the Americas tournament. He is the best player on the Venezuelan team and leads the tournament in 3 pointers made(2.9), free throws made(4.6), assists(5.8) and is second in points scored(19.3) and third in 3pt %(52.3%). The competition isn’t close to the NBA level, but this guy can play. He’s been showing this since he played at Maryland.

    What do you think he can be in the league? To me he can be a good PG off the bench and if his defense gets a little better he can even start on a bad team. He is a bit slow, but maybe his size can make up for that.

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  • #599047
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    I think Vasquez will stick in the league. He plays with great energy, looks to distribute, and plays winning basketball, which can’t be understated. Guys like that who are as vocal and competitive as he is end up being important to whatever team they’re on. He wants to win games at the end of the day, and his confidence and energy are contagious, even if he is a role player.

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  • #598563
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    I think Vasquez will stick in the league. He plays with great energy, looks to distribute, and plays winning basketball, which can’t be understated. Guys like that who are as vocal and competitive as he is end up being important to whatever team they’re on. He wants to win games at the end of the day, and his confidence and energy are contagious, even if he is a role player.

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  • #599013
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    hiphopismylife
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    I think Vasquez will stick in the league. He plays with great energy, looks to distribute, and plays winning basketball, which can’t be understated. Guys like that who are as vocal and competitive as he is end up being important to whatever team they’re on. He wants to win games at the end of the day, and his confidence and energy are contagious, even if he is a role player.

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  • #599050
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    I watch alot of Memphis games and Vasquez is 1 of my favorite players..I Love his energy..He’s smart,has a knack for scoring, nice rebounder..He and Darrell Arthur work well together…

    But right now he’s more of a bench player,becuz he has alot of limitations..He’s a poor athlete,needs to add muscle, gambles waaaaay too much on defense,has a questionable shot selection and is a poor shooter… 

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  • #598566
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    I watch alot of Memphis games and Vasquez is 1 of my favorite players..I Love his energy..He’s smart,has a knack for scoring, nice rebounder..He and Darrell Arthur work well together…

    But right now he’s more of a bench player,becuz he has alot of limitations..He’s a poor athlete,needs to add muscle, gambles waaaaay too much on defense,has a questionable shot selection and is a poor shooter… 

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  • #599016
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    I watch alot of Memphis games and Vasquez is 1 of my favorite players..I Love his energy..He’s smart,has a knack for scoring, nice rebounder..He and Darrell Arthur work well together…

    But right now he’s more of a bench player,becuz he has alot of limitations..He’s a poor athlete,needs to add muscle, gambles waaaaay too much on defense,has a questionable shot selection and is a poor shooter… 

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  • #599056
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    honestly he reminds me of ginobili a little bit but maybe more of a traditional PG…hes got the size and decent strength to be a starter…maybe not as quick as most PGs but like i said he makes up for it with size,energy, and basketball IQ…

    people forget how good he was in college…dude is an ACC  legend by all means

    i thought the grizzlies took him a little early in the draft but he really proved me wrong seeing how his game has translated into the NBA

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  • #598572
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    honestly he reminds me of ginobili a little bit but maybe more of a traditional PG…hes got the size and decent strength to be a starter…maybe not as quick as most PGs but like i said he makes up for it with size,energy, and basketball IQ…

    people forget how good he was in college…dude is an ACC  legend by all means

    i thought the grizzlies took him a little early in the draft but he really proved me wrong seeing how his game has translated into the NBA

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  • #599022
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    honestly he reminds me of ginobili a little bit but maybe more of a traditional PG…hes got the size and decent strength to be a starter…maybe not as quick as most PGs but like i said he makes up for it with size,energy, and basketball IQ…

    people forget how good he was in college…dude is an ACC  legend by all means

    i thought the grizzlies took him a little early in the draft but he really proved me wrong seeing how his game has translated into the NBA

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  • #599049
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    TallmanNYC
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     The problem is that he can’t shoot. I’ve no idea how he is shooting 52% in threes in this league. We’ve got four years of college stats on the guy. He was a 32% 3pt shooter from the college three line. To put things in the most basic level you have to either have speed or have a jump shot to play in the league. If you don’t have either, then I don’t think it matters how much confidence you’ve got. But a guy like Vasquez would be the type to be an exception to the rule. Heck, J. Kidd still doesn’t have much of a jump shot and he certainly doesn’t have speed anymore and he is still getting it done. So size, strength and, in the case of Kidd, off the charts basketball IQ can get it done. 

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  • #599083
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     The problem is that he can’t shoot. I’ve no idea how he is shooting 52% in threes in this league. We’ve got four years of college stats on the guy. He was a 32% 3pt shooter from the college three line. To put things in the most basic level you have to either have speed or have a jump shot to play in the league. If you don’t have either, then I don’t think it matters how much confidence you’ve got. But a guy like Vasquez would be the type to be an exception to the rule. Heck, J. Kidd still doesn’t have much of a jump shot and he certainly doesn’t have speed anymore and he is still getting it done. So size, strength and, in the case of Kidd, off the charts basketball IQ can get it done. 

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  • #598599
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    TallmanNYC
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     The problem is that he can’t shoot. I’ve no idea how he is shooting 52% in threes in this league. We’ve got four years of college stats on the guy. He was a 32% 3pt shooter from the college three line. To put things in the most basic level you have to either have speed or have a jump shot to play in the league. If you don’t have either, then I don’t think it matters how much confidence you’ve got. But a guy like Vasquez would be the type to be an exception to the rule. Heck, J. Kidd still doesn’t have much of a jump shot and he certainly doesn’t have speed anymore and he is still getting it done. So size, strength and, in the case of Kidd, off the charts basketball IQ can get it done. 

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  • #599070
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    FLYNTFLOSSYBABY

    not good enuff to be a starter worth be surpised if selby wins the backup spot.

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  • #599105
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    FLYNTFLOSSYBABY

    not good enuff to be a starter worth be surpised if selby wins the backup spot.

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  • #598620
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    FLYNTFLOSSYBABY

    not good enuff to be a starter worth be surpised if selby wins the backup spot.

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  • #599079
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    tuck243
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    As he can’t gaurd anyone regardless of weight or height… Everytime I see him on the court its that goofy a** gallop up the court like he’s a true PG…  You can pay anybody that contributes more than him and to beat their chest whenever they hit a shot… The Grizzlies main weakless last year was PG play off the bench n Grevis is not that… Outside basically running up the court and calling a play he did nothing PGesque…  Everytime he drove he took a wild shot, and he’s shooting % was terrible…  I wonder if he wasn’t a 6’6 latina that says he’s a PG would he still be getting all this love…

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  • #599114
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    As he can’t gaurd anyone regardless of weight or height… Everytime I see him on the court its that goofy a** gallop up the court like he’s a true PG…  You can pay anybody that contributes more than him and to beat their chest whenever they hit a shot… The Grizzlies main weakless last year was PG play off the bench n Grevis is not that… Outside basically running up the court and calling a play he did nothing PGesque…  Everytime he drove he took a wild shot, and he’s shooting % was terrible…  I wonder if he wasn’t a 6’6 latina that says he’s a PG would he still be getting all this love…

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  • #598629
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    tuck243
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    As he can’t gaurd anyone regardless of weight or height… Everytime I see him on the court its that goofy a** gallop up the court like he’s a true PG…  You can pay anybody that contributes more than him and to beat their chest whenever they hit a shot… The Grizzlies main weakless last year was PG play off the bench n Grevis is not that… Outside basically running up the court and calling a play he did nothing PGesque…  Everytime he drove he took a wild shot, and he’s shooting % was terrible…  I wonder if he wasn’t a 6’6 latina that says he’s a PG would he still be getting all this love…

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  • #599319
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    Bmore_DC
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    how about instead of negging me why not explain why you disagree with my statement? smh

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  • #598834
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    Bmore_DC
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    how about instead of negging me why not explain why you disagree with my statement? smh

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  • #599281
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    Bmore_DC
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    how about instead of negging me why not explain why you disagree with my statement? smh

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  • #599395
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    The fact that Venezuela will be in the final Olympic qualifying tournament next summer is a testament to him, but really no different from him carrying that bad Maryland team to a share of the ACC title. What it means for the NBA is nothing? He is good enough to stick, but not good enough to have the kind of role he has with Venezuela. Carlos Arroyo was that guy for a long time. Put him in a Puerto Rican jersey and he’d look elite, but the inability to guard anyone and production by ball domination has always left him as a backup in the NBA. When a team has needed someone to pick up offensive slack when a starter was injured, Arroyo was able to do it. I think that is what Vasquez will be. Now, if he can hit 35-40 percent from 3, his value with Memphis skyrockets because they don’t have great perimeter shooting, but there is no guarantee of that from him.

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  • #599433
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    BothTeamsPlayedHard
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    The fact that Venezuela will be in the final Olympic qualifying tournament next summer is a testament to him, but really no different from him carrying that bad Maryland team to a share of the ACC title. What it means for the NBA is nothing? He is good enough to stick, but not good enough to have the kind of role he has with Venezuela. Carlos Arroyo was that guy for a long time. Put him in a Puerto Rican jersey and he’d look elite, but the inability to guard anyone and production by ball domination has always left him as a backup in the NBA. When a team has needed someone to pick up offensive slack when a starter was injured, Arroyo was able to do it. I think that is what Vasquez will be. Now, if he can hit 35-40 percent from 3, his value with Memphis skyrockets because they don’t have great perimeter shooting, but there is no guarantee of that from him.

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  • #598949
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    The fact that Venezuela will be in the final Olympic qualifying tournament next summer is a testament to him, but really no different from him carrying that bad Maryland team to a share of the ACC title. What it means for the NBA is nothing? He is good enough to stick, but not good enough to have the kind of role he has with Venezuela. Carlos Arroyo was that guy for a long time. Put him in a Puerto Rican jersey and he’d look elite, but the inability to guard anyone and production by ball domination has always left him as a backup in the NBA. When a team has needed someone to pick up offensive slack when a starter was injured, Arroyo was able to do it. I think that is what Vasquez will be. Now, if he can hit 35-40 percent from 3, his value with Memphis skyrockets because they don’t have great perimeter shooting, but there is no guarantee of that from him.

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